Yeah..Canada gun crime going up, funny obama didn't mention this,they have more gun control than us.

[Conservative65]

Yes...funny that obama didn't mention that Canada...that paradise of gun control laws....has seen a spike in gun crime and gun murder......even though they have strict gun control...funny how our democrat controlled media failed to point this out....

Toronto's gun crime stats have spiked



TORONTO - Welcome to Toronto’s Summer of the Gun 2015.

It’s a headline neither Toronto Police nor city hall want to see.

There is no question statistics can be made to look a lot of different ways, but some statistics are just plain ugly.

Scary, actually.

For example, 36 more people have been shot so far this year in Toronto than at this point last year.

Toronto Police statistics show a 90% increase in people wounded by gunfire and a 48% increase in shootings (135 compared to 91).

And there have been 106 more shooting victims (those hit by gunfire, as well as those victimized by it).

In fact, the 227 shooting victims so far this year is 31 more than the total for all of 2014.

It’s true not all shooting victims have been hit by gunfire, but as Deputy Chief Peter Sloly points out, every gun shot, whether into the air or a tree, is one that could ricochet and strike an innocent victim like we saw in 2012 when a two-year-old was hit.

If you add the death and injury statistics, Toronto has seen 88 dead or wounded by gunfire in 2015 compared to 53 at this time last year. That’s a 66% increase.

It’s a big spike.

Shocking, horrifying numbers that seem to have just snuck up on us.

Many seem worried about the controversial carding issue, but these scary stats aren’t getting the same media attention. It doesn’t feel like a particularly violent summer, but the stats indicate otherwise.

You are pathetic. Grasping at straws. That's about one city chump, not the whole country. We're doing pretty good thank you.

And;

Canada also introduced tougher gun control measures, following the École Polytechnique Massacre in 1989. Tougher screening processes were introduced for all gun purchases including risk assessments, background checks and firearms registration. Later, further classes of firearms “not reasonably used in hunting” (prohibiting semi-automatic assault weapons) became restricted.
The new measures appeared to accelerate a downward trend in gun violence involving long weapons (rifles and shotguns) but also revealed a shift to handguns as criminal weapons of choice, as Canada also experienced an upsurge in street-gang problems. Tighter controls on handguns have also followed, having some positive impact over the past five years although, in this regard, Canada’s efforts are rather undermined by the lax gun laws of its neighbour to the south. An overwhelming number of criminal handguns intercepted by the police in Canada are illegally sourced from the US.

Yeah.....the article is from 2015...dipstick...

Posted: Aug 04, 2015 8:34 PM ETLast Updated: Aug 04, 2015 8:34 PM ET


And the other article....

JULY 15, 2015 08:35 PM EDT | UPDATED: WEDNESDAY, JULY 15, 2015 08:38 PM EDT

You didn't comment on my main criticism of your OP-you use one year spike in one city to categorize a whole country. By the way Toronto is the largest city in Canada. Your article states "If you add the death and injury statistics, "Toronto has seen 88 dead or wounded by gunfire in 2015." Your article calls that number "horrifying". What would a newspaper call that Stat in your biggest city? And I assume you're criticizing my use of a three year old graph. If you've ever searched for similar data you know it's hard to find up to date (current) aggregates of statistics of this type. For instance google "FBI gun homicide rates 2015" and you get something like these;

Your point in the OP seemed to be that Canada's gun regulations have not had a positive effect. There is evidence to the contrary but like I said you really misrepresented one story about one city to push your NRA narrative. Grasping at straws. And pulling Obama into the conversation just represents a microcosm of the Republican agenda since he was elected. Say no to everything in case he might succeed at something and blame him for everything even if he's 12 steps removed from the event. Way more concern for anti-Obama memes than what is actually good for America. That's been typical of everything, not just gun control. I truly believe that 100 yrs. from now future Americans will look back at the whole bunch of you as in the same hated category as Benedict Arnold.

So...the truth with a little less clutter.....try to follow along....

Gun murder per the FBI table 8 2014...

8,124

Cars, Accidental deaths 2013.....

35,369

Do you see how you have been lied to by the American anti gun extremists......?

And here you have other accidental deaths....

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760

Accidental gun deaths 2013......505



And again..we have 12.8 million people carrying guns for self defense....

And over 320 million guns in private hands....

And our crime, like Canada's is confined to tiny, multi block areas in our major cities....controlled by the democrat party.......

If Obama says gun free zones and safe, why doesn't he disarm the Secret Service protecting him and declare any area he's in a gun free zone. If it's safe, why would they need guns.

 

[2aguy]

And what does the Saskatoon police chief say......in 2015......

Police chief worried Saskatoon crime rates may go up

“I think people have to be aware of what’s going on in the city,” he added. “We’ve got some serious gang activity happening, some serious drug things going on, we’re hoping we can get a handle on it like we did the last couple of years, but it really is an escalating problem for us.”

Over the weekend there was a shooting in Saskatoon, and last week there were two shootings. One man narrowly escaped death after a shotgun was fired through a door, wounding him.

READ MORE: Two Saskatoon shootings leave two injured, one from shotgun blast

“We’ve seen a marked increase (in gun violence) in this last while,” he said.

And the Canadian welfare state is the cause.....


He said the increase in violence is stretching the police service to its limits. Earlier this year Weighill announced a re-deployment of officers to put more on the street.

“Our officers on patrol couldn’t keep up with the call load … it just seems like our service is being stretched in every direction right now,” he said, adding he’s pulling officers out of specialized units to try and meet the growing demand for front line police.

“To put more officers downtown, to put more officers on patrol, I’ve got to pull officers out of the schools, out of the gang unit, out of the drug unit … we’re having a pretty tough time in the service trying to figure out how do we put our resources, where do we go with our resources.”

Chief Weighill says staffing is one issue, but there are also bigger problems at work.

“We have a huge marginalized population, and the poverty , the poor housing, the racism and all that stuff that’s enticing people into gangs because they don’t feel like they belong in the mainstream of what’s happening here in Saskatoon, so it’s a big complex social issue we’re grappling with.”

And where do we hear this sort of thing...oh yeah...in U.S. democrat controlled cities...where we have most of our gun crime....

But...but....Canada has strict gun control laws and it is a first world country...how is this happening at all there?

Okay anti gunners.....you can now move the goal posts....

What does the Saskatoon police chief say......

“Most of its attributable to the drug trade, gang activity, there’s a bit of a turf war going on here in the city.”

Hmmmm...again...sounds like Chicago, Baltimore, D.C., L.A.........

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's Canada's murder rate?

Yeah....doesn't matter....it is going up because.....gun control doesn't work...it shouldn't be going up at all since Canada has strict gun control laws...right? and yet it is....why...because some of their criminals have decided they need guns because they want to shoot people....so they got guns and they shot people.......even with all of Canada's gun control laws.....

Sorry it does matter. They have far less gun crime than we do. And what makes it even more impressive is that they share a 1,500 mile long border with the most gun obsessed country in the world. So even though guns could be flooding into Canada from the U.S.'s massive ocean of guns, their gun laws still work.

 

[2aguy]

What's Canada's murder rate?

Yeah....doesn't matter....it is going up because.....gun control doesn't work...it shouldn't be going up at all since Canada has strict gun control laws...right? and yet it is....why...because some of their criminals have decided they need guns because they want to shoot people....so they got guns and they shot people.......even with all of Canada's gun control laws.....

Sorry it does matter. They have far less gun crime than we do. And what makes it even more impressive is that they share a 1,500 mile long border with the most gun obsessed country in the world. So even though guns could be flooding into Canada from the U.S.'s massive ocean of guns, their gun laws still work.

Exactly moron....they have easy access to guns, but they don't use them as much...but even with all of their strict gun control laws....gun crime is starting to go up....and as you gun nuts keep telling us.....it shouldn't be happening.....and you can't use the Mexico excuse because Canada is a first world Country........

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's Canada's murder rate?

Yeah....doesn't matter....it is going up because.....gun control doesn't work...it shouldn't be going up at all since Canada has strict gun control laws...right? and yet it is....why...because some of their criminals have decided they need guns because they want to shoot people....so they got guns and they shot people.......even with all of Canada's gun control laws.....

Sorry it does matter. They have far less gun crime than we do. And what makes it even more impressive is that they share a 1,500 mile long border with the most gun obsessed country in the world. So even though guns could be flooding into Canada from the U.S.'s massive ocean of guns, their gun laws still work.

Exactly moron....they have easy access to guns, but they don't use them as much...but even with all of their strict gun control laws....gun crime is starting to go up....and as you gun nuts keep telling us.....it shouldn't be happening.....and you can't use the Mexico excuse because Canada is a first world Country........

Their low murder rate proves that gun control does in fact work there. Perhaps the gun crime rate has gone up because the conservatives who have been swept in the last few elections have whittled away at Canada's gun control laws. That would be the obvious explanation.

 

[2aguy]

What's Canada's murder rate?

Yeah....doesn't matter....it is going up because.....gun control doesn't work...it shouldn't be going up at all since Canada has strict gun control laws...right? and yet it is....why...because some of their criminals have decided they need guns because they want to shoot people....so they got guns and they shot people.......even with all of Canada's gun control laws.....

Sorry it does matter. They have far less gun crime than we do. And what makes it even more impressive is that they share a 1,500 mile long border with the most gun obsessed country in the world. So even though guns could be flooding into Canada from the U.S.'s massive ocean of guns, their gun laws still work.

Exactly moron....they have easy access to guns, but they don't use them as much...but even with all of their strict gun control laws....gun crime is starting to go up....and as you gun nuts keep telling us.....it shouldn't be happening.....and you can't use the Mexico excuse because Canada is a first world Country........

Their low murder rate proves that gun control does in fact work there. Perhaps the gun crime rate has gone up because the conservatives who have been swept in the last few elections have whittled away at Canada's gun control laws. That would be the obvious explanation.

Wrong....gun crime is going up because the culture of their criminals is finally reaching the point where their welfare state is creating killers....single kids without Fathers I suspect.......it went faster here because we had a long time of destroying minority families with democrat policies......

 

[TheOldSchool]

What's Canada's murder rate?

Yeah....doesn't matter....it is going up because.....gun control doesn't work...it shouldn't be going up at all since Canada has strict gun control laws...right? and yet it is....why...because some of their criminals have decided they need guns because they want to shoot people....so they got guns and they shot people.......even with all of Canada's gun control laws.....

Sorry it does matter. They have far less gun crime than we do. And what makes it even more impressive is that they share a 1,500 mile long border with the most gun obsessed country in the world. So even though guns could be flooding into Canada from the U.S.'s massive ocean of guns, their gun laws still work.

Exactly moron....they have easy access to guns, but they don't use them as much...but even with all of their strict gun control laws....gun crime is starting to go up....and as you gun nuts keep telling us.....it shouldn't be happening.....and you can't use the Mexico excuse because Canada is a first world Country........

Their low murder rate proves that gun control does in fact work there. Perhaps the gun crime rate has gone up because the conservatives who have been swept in the last few elections have whittled away at Canada's gun control laws. That would be the obvious explanation.

Wrong....gun crime is going up because the culture of their criminals is finally reaching the point where their welfare state is creating killers....single kids without Fathers I suspect.......it went faster here because we had a long time of destroying minority families with democrat policies......

No I'll stick to the unbelievably obvious reason of their weakening gun laws leading to more gun crime. They still have stronger gun laws than we do though, which is why they have such a lower murder rate.

 

[2aguy]

Yeah....doesn't matter....it is going up because.....gun control doesn't work...it shouldn't be going up at all since Canada has strict gun control laws...right? and yet it is....why...because some of their criminals have decided they need guns because they want to shoot people....so they got guns and they shot people.......even with all of Canada's gun control laws.....

Sorry it does matter. They have far less gun crime than we do. And what makes it even more impressive is that they share a 1,500 mile long border with the most gun obsessed country in the world. So even though guns could be flooding into Canada from the U.S.'s massive ocean of guns, their gun laws still work.

Exactly moron....they have easy access to guns, but they don't use them as much...but even with all of their strict gun control laws....gun crime is starting to go up....and as you gun nuts keep telling us.....it shouldn't be happening.....and you can't use the Mexico excuse because Canada is a first world Country........

Their low murder rate proves that gun control does in fact work there. Perhaps the gun crime rate has gone up because the conservatives who have been swept in the last few elections have whittled away at Canada's gun control laws. That would be the obvious explanation.

Wrong....gun crime is going up because the culture of their criminals is finally reaching the point where their welfare state is creating killers....single kids without Fathers I suspect.......it went faster here because we had a long time of destroying minority families with democrat policies......

No I'll stick to the unbelievably obvious reason of their weakening gun laws leading to more gun crime. They still have stronger gun laws than we do though, which is why they have such a lower murder rate.

They haven't weakend their gun laws dipshit.......but their gun crime rate is going up...

Dittos Australia, they haven't weakened their gun laws and their rate is going up too.......

 

[2aguy]

What are all you anti gun extremists going to say when the gun crime rate goes up in all the countries with strict gun control laws....how will you move the goal posts then?

 

[TheOldSchool]

Sorry it does matter. They have far less gun crime than we do. And what makes it even more impressive is that they share a 1,500 mile long border with the most gun obsessed country in the world. So even though guns could be flooding into Canada from the U.S.'s massive ocean of guns, their gun laws still work.

Exactly moron....they have easy access to guns, but they don't use them as much...but even with all of their strict gun control laws....gun crime is starting to go up....and as you gun nuts keep telling us.....it shouldn't be happening.....and you can't use the Mexico excuse because Canada is a first world Country........

Their low murder rate proves that gun control does in fact work there. Perhaps the gun crime rate has gone up because the conservatives who have been swept in the last few elections have whittled away at Canada's gun control laws. That would be the obvious explanation.

Wrong....gun crime is going up because the culture of their criminals is finally reaching the point where their welfare state is creating killers....single kids without Fathers I suspect.......it went faster here because we had a long time of destroying minority families with democrat policies......

No I'll stick to the unbelievably obvious reason of their weakening gun laws leading to more gun crime. They still have stronger gun laws than we do though, which is why they have such a lower murder rate.

They haven't weakend their gun laws dipshit.......but their gun crime rate is going up...

Dittos Australia, they haven't weakened their gun laws and their rate is going up too.......

Gun laws being whittled away without debate, say gun-control advocates

Weakening gun laws amid controversial shotgun debate 'huge mistake', John Howard says - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

 

[Searcher44]

Yes...funny that obama didn't mention that Canada...that paradise of gun control laws....has seen a spike in gun crime and gun murder......even though they have strict gun control...funny how our democrat controlled media failed to point this out....

Toronto's gun crime stats have spiked



TORONTO - Welcome to Toronto’s Summer of the Gun 2015.

It’s a headline neither Toronto Police nor city hall want to see.

There is no question statistics can be made to look a lot of different ways, but some statistics are just plain ugly.

Scary, actually.

For example, 36 more people have been shot so far this year in Toronto than at this point last year.

Toronto Police statistics show a 90% increase in people wounded by gunfire and a 48% increase in shootings (135 compared to 91).

And there have been 106 more shooting victims (those hit by gunfire, as well as those victimized by it).

In fact, the 227 shooting victims so far this year is 31 more than the total for all of 2014.

It’s true not all shooting victims have been hit by gunfire, but as Deputy Chief Peter Sloly points out, every gun shot, whether into the air or a tree, is one that could ricochet and strike an innocent victim like we saw in 2012 when a two-year-old was hit.

If you add the death and injury statistics, Toronto has seen 88 dead or wounded by gunfire in 2015 compared to 53 at this time last year. That’s a 66% increase.

It’s a big spike.

Shocking, horrifying numbers that seem to have just snuck up on us.

Many seem worried about the controversial carding issue, but these scary stats aren’t getting the same media attention. It doesn’t feel like a particularly violent summer, but the stats indicate otherwise.

You are pathetic. Grasping at straws. That's about one city chump, not the whole country. We're doing pretty good thank you.

And;

Canada also introduced tougher gun control measures, following the École Polytechnique Massacre in 1989. Tougher screening processes were introduced for all gun purchases including risk assessments, background checks and firearms registration. Later, further classes of firearms “not reasonably used in hunting” (prohibiting semi-automatic assault weapons) became restricted.
The new measures appeared to accelerate a downward trend in gun violence involving long weapons (rifles and shotguns) but also revealed a shift to handguns as criminal weapons of choice, as Canada also experienced an upsurge in street-gang problems. Tighter controls on handguns have also followed, having some positive impact over the past five years although, in this regard, Canada’s efforts are rather undermined by the lax gun laws of its neighbour to the south. An overwhelming number of criminal handguns intercepted by the police in Canada are illegally sourced from the US.

Yeah.....the article is from 2015...dipstick...

Posted: Aug 04, 2015 8:34 PM ETLast Updated: Aug 04, 2015 8:34 PM ET


And the other article....

JULY 15, 2015 08:35 PM EDT | UPDATED: WEDNESDAY, JULY 15, 2015 08:38 PM EDT

You didn't comment on my main criticism of your OP-you use one year spike in one city to categorize a whole country. By the way Toronto is the largest city in Canada. Your article states "If you add the death and injury statistics, "Toronto has seen 88 dead or wounded by gunfire in 2015." Your article calls that number "horrifying". What would a newspaper call that Stat in your biggest city? And I assume you're criticizing my use of a three year old graph. If you've ever searched for similar data you know it's hard to find up to date (current) aggregates of statistics of this type. For instance google "FBI gun homicide rates 2015" and you get something like these;

Your point in the OP seemed to be that Canada's gun regulations have not had a positive effect. There is evidence to the contrary but like I said you really misrepresented one story about one city to push your NRA narrative. Grasping at straws. And pulling Obama into the conversation just represents a microcosm of the Republican agenda since he was elected. Say no to everything in case he might succeed at something and blame him for everything even if he's 12 steps removed from the event. Way more concern for anti-Obama memes than what is actually good for America. That's been typical of everything, not just gun control. I truly believe that 100 yrs. from now future Americans will look back at the whole bunch of you as in the same hated category as Benedict Arnold.

Dipshit......you are using cars vs. guns.....and don't realize you have been lied to by American anti gun extremists.....in order to say that gun deaths are getting close to car deaths they have to lie....they lie because in 2014...gun murder rates in America went down again...we only had 8,125 gun murders down from 8,454 in 2013......

so how do they lie...they add suicide into the gun death figures to push up their numbers......otherwise car deaths way outnumber gun murder in the United States......

God you're thick. I was using those two graphs as examples of how most statistical compilations of data available on the internet are usually a couple of years or so "out of date". I don't give a shit about car deaths compared to gun deaths. It's hard to carry on a conversation with someone with your level of comprehension. You call everyone who disagrees with you stupid or moronic or a liar. I think you've given us a real life definition of "projection".

 

[2aguy]

Exactly moron....they have easy access to guns, but they don't use them as much...but even with all of their strict gun control laws....gun crime is starting to go up....and as you gun nuts keep telling us.....it shouldn't be happening.....and you can't use the Mexico excuse because Canada is a first world Country........

Their low murder rate proves that gun control does in fact work there. Perhaps the gun crime rate has gone up because the conservatives who have been swept in the last few elections have whittled away at Canada's gun control laws. That would be the obvious explanation.

Wrong....gun crime is going up because the culture of their criminals is finally reaching the point where their welfare state is creating killers....single kids without Fathers I suspect.......it went faster here because we had a long time of destroying minority families with democrat policies......

No I'll stick to the unbelievably obvious reason of their weakening gun laws leading to more gun crime. They still have stronger gun laws than we do though, which is why they have such a lower murder rate.

They haven't weakend their gun laws dipshit.......but their gun crime rate is going up...

Dittos Australia, they haven't weakened their gun laws and their rate is going up too.......

Gun laws being whittled away without debate, say gun-control advocates

Weakening gun laws amid controversial shotgun debate 'huge mistake', John Howard says - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

So the fact that teenagers are using hand guns in Canada is effected by shotguns how? Dipshit.

 

[2aguy]

Yes...funny that obama didn't mention that Canada...that paradise of gun control laws....has seen a spike in gun crime and gun murder......even though they have strict gun control...funny how our democrat controlled media failed to point this out....

Toronto's gun crime stats have spiked



TORONTO - Welcome to Toronto’s Summer of the Gun 2015.

It’s a headline neither Toronto Police nor city hall want to see.

There is no question statistics can be made to look a lot of different ways, but some statistics are just plain ugly.

Scary, actually.

For example, 36 more people have been shot so far this year in Toronto than at this point last year.

Toronto Police statistics show a 90% increase in people wounded by gunfire and a 48% increase in shootings (135 compared to 91).

And there have been 106 more shooting victims (those hit by gunfire, as well as those victimized by it).

In fact, the 227 shooting victims so far this year is 31 more than the total for all of 2014.

It’s true not all shooting victims have been hit by gunfire, but as Deputy Chief Peter Sloly points out, every gun shot, whether into the air or a tree, is one that could ricochet and strike an innocent victim like we saw in 2012 when a two-year-old was hit.

If you add the death and injury statistics, Toronto has seen 88 dead or wounded by gunfire in 2015 compared to 53 at this time last year. That’s a 66% increase.

It’s a big spike.

Shocking, horrifying numbers that seem to have just snuck up on us.

Many seem worried about the controversial carding issue, but these scary stats aren’t getting the same media attention. It doesn’t feel like a particularly violent summer, but the stats indicate otherwise.

You are pathetic. Grasping at straws. That's about one city chump, not the whole country. We're doing pretty good thank you.

And;

Canada also introduced tougher gun control measures, following the École Polytechnique Massacre in 1989. Tougher screening processes were introduced for all gun purchases including risk assessments, background checks and firearms registration. Later, further classes of firearms “not reasonably used in hunting” (prohibiting semi-automatic assault weapons) became restricted.
The new measures appeared to accelerate a downward trend in gun violence involving long weapons (rifles and shotguns) but also revealed a shift to handguns as criminal weapons of choice, as Canada also experienced an upsurge in street-gang problems. Tighter controls on handguns have also followed, having some positive impact over the past five years although, in this regard, Canada’s efforts are rather undermined by the lax gun laws of its neighbour to the south. An overwhelming number of criminal handguns intercepted by the police in Canada are illegally sourced from the US.

Yeah.....the article is from 2015...dipstick...

Posted: Aug 04, 2015 8:34 PM ETLast Updated: Aug 04, 2015 8:34 PM ET


And the other article....

JULY 15, 2015 08:35 PM EDT | UPDATED: WEDNESDAY, JULY 15, 2015 08:38 PM EDT

You didn't comment on my main criticism of your OP-you use one year spike in one city to categorize a whole country. By the way Toronto is the largest city in Canada. Your article states "If you add the death and injury statistics, "Toronto has seen 88 dead or wounded by gunfire in 2015." Your article calls that number "horrifying". What would a newspaper call that Stat in your biggest city? And I assume you're criticizing my use of a three year old graph. If you've ever searched for similar data you know it's hard to find up to date (current) aggregates of statistics of this type. For instance google "FBI gun homicide rates 2015" and you get something like these;

Your point in the OP seemed to be that Canada's gun regulations have not had a positive effect. There is evidence to the contrary but like I said you really misrepresented one story about one city to push your NRA narrative. Grasping at straws. And pulling Obama into the conversation just represents a microcosm of the Republican agenda since he was elected. Say no to everything in case he might succeed at something and blame him for everything even if he's 12 steps removed from the event. Way more concern for anti-Obama memes than what is actually good for America. That's been typical of everything, not just gun control. I truly believe that 100 yrs. from now future Americans will look back at the whole bunch of you as in the same hated category as Benedict Arnold.

Dipshit......you are using cars vs. guns.....and don't realize you have been lied to by American anti gun extremists.....in order to say that gun deaths are getting close to car deaths they have to lie....they lie because in 2014...gun murder rates in America went down again...we only had 8,125 gun murders down from 8,454 in 2013......

so how do they lie...they add suicide into the gun death figures to push up their numbers......otherwise car deaths way outnumber gun murder in the United States......

God you're thick. I was using those two graphs as examples of how most statistical compilations of data available on the internet are usually a couple of years or so "out of date". I don't give a shit about car deaths compared to gun deaths. It's hard to carry on a conversation with someone with your level of comprehension. You call everyone who disagrees with you stupid or moronic or a liar. I think you've given us a real life definition of "projection".

And then I showed you articles from this year.......dipshit....showing increasing gun crime....

 

[TheOldSchool]

Their low murder rate proves that gun control does in fact work there. Perhaps the gun crime rate has gone up because the conservatives who have been swept in the last few elections have whittled away at Canada's gun control laws. That would be the obvious explanation.

Wrong....gun crime is going up because the culture of their criminals is finally reaching the point where their welfare state is creating killers....single kids without Fathers I suspect.......it went faster here because we had a long time of destroying minority families with democrat policies......

No I'll stick to the unbelievably obvious reason of their weakening gun laws leading to more gun crime. They still have stronger gun laws than we do though, which is why they have such a lower murder rate.

They haven't weakend their gun laws dipshit.......but their gun crime rate is going up...

Dittos Australia, they haven't weakened their gun laws and their rate is going up too.......

Gun laws being whittled away without debate, say gun-control advocates

Weakening gun laws amid controversial shotgun debate 'huge mistake', John Howard says - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

So the fact that teenagers are using hand guns in Canada is effected by shotguns how? Dipshit.

You asked about Canada and Australia moron.

Both of which have a faaaar lower murder rate then the U.S. But probably not because they have more control over things used for murders. Nah, no way that's it.

 

[TheOldSchool]

You are pathetic. Grasping at straws. That's about one city chump, not the whole country. We're doing pretty good thank you.

And;

Canada also introduced tougher gun control measures, following the École Polytechnique Massacre in 1989. Tougher screening processes were introduced for all gun purchases including risk assessments, background checks and firearms registration. Later, further classes of firearms “not reasonably used in hunting” (prohibiting semi-automatic assault weapons) became restricted.
The new measures appeared to accelerate a downward trend in gun violence involving long weapons (rifles and shotguns) but also revealed a shift to handguns as criminal weapons of choice, as Canada also experienced an upsurge in street-gang problems. Tighter controls on handguns have also followed, having some positive impact over the past five years although, in this regard, Canada’s efforts are rather undermined by the lax gun laws of its neighbour to the south. An overwhelming number of criminal handguns intercepted by the police in Canada are illegally sourced from the US.

Yeah.....the article is from 2015...dipstick...

Posted: Aug 04, 2015 8:34 PM ETLast Updated: Aug 04, 2015 8:34 PM ET


And the other article....

JULY 15, 2015 08:35 PM EDT | UPDATED: WEDNESDAY, JULY 15, 2015 08:38 PM EDT

You didn't comment on my main criticism of your OP-you use one year spike in one city to categorize a whole country. By the way Toronto is the largest city in Canada. Your article states "If you add the death and injury statistics, "Toronto has seen 88 dead or wounded by gunfire in 2015." Your article calls that number "horrifying". What would a newspaper call that Stat in your biggest city? And I assume you're criticizing my use of a three year old graph. If you've ever searched for similar data you know it's hard to find up to date (current) aggregates of statistics of this type. For instance google "FBI gun homicide rates 2015" and you get something like these;

Your point in the OP seemed to be that Canada's gun regulations have not had a positive effect. There is evidence to the contrary but like I said you really misrepresented one story about one city to push your NRA narrative. Grasping at straws. And pulling Obama into the conversation just represents a microcosm of the Republican agenda since he was elected. Say no to everything in case he might succeed at something and blame him for everything even if he's 12 steps removed from the event. Way more concern for anti-Obama memes than what is actually good for America. That's been typical of everything, not just gun control. I truly believe that 100 yrs. from now future Americans will look back at the whole bunch of you as in the same hated category as Benedict Arnold.

Dipshit......you are using cars vs. guns.....and don't realize you have been lied to by American anti gun extremists.....in order to say that gun deaths are getting close to car deaths they have to lie....they lie because in 2014...gun murder rates in America went down again...we only had 8,125 gun murders down from 8,454 in 2013......

so how do they lie...they add suicide into the gun death figures to push up their numbers......otherwise car deaths way outnumber gun murder in the United States......

God you're thick. I was using those two graphs as examples of how most statistical compilations of data available on the internet are usually a couple of years or so "out of date". I don't give a shit about car deaths compared to gun deaths. It's hard to carry on a conversation with someone with your level of comprehension. You call everyone who disagrees with you stupid or moronic or a liar. I think you've given us a real life definition of "projection".

And then I showed you articles from this year.......dipshit....showing increasing gun crime....

And then I showed you articles about the weakening of gun control... dipshit.

 

[Searcher44]

Drive by shootings in Saskatoon Canada 2015

Saskatoon police creating guns and gangs unit



Watch above: The number of shooting incidents and gang-related activities in the city is on the rise and the Saskatoon Police Service is firing back. Amber Rockliffe tells us though it could come at a considerable cost to taxpayers.

SASKATOON – After a surge in drive-by shootings, police chases, and drug activity, the Saskatoon Police Service is creating a new guns and gangs unit.



“I never ever thought in my career as a police officer in Saskatchewan that we’d ever be forming such a unit,” said police Chief Clive Weighill.

“We’re going to redeploy some other members within our criminal investigation division to augment the gangs and the guns so we have a substantial amount of officers to work on this,” he explained.

Weighill is not revealing how many officers will be a part of the new unit.



Weighill said the unit will tackle the unprecedented level of gang crime the city is experiencing, which he said is fueled by turf wars.

“We’re seeing people coming in from Vancouver, Toronto, with guns, who try to intimidate their way into the market here,” the chief explained.

READ MORE: Police chief worried Saskatoon crime rates may go up

He said Saskatoon has seen a steady increase in weapons and firearm charges over the past few years. According to police records, there were 323 charges in 2011.

That jumped up to 435 last year.

Saskatoon had 7 homicides in 2014, not sure how many were gun murders. As of July 22, 2015 the city had 5 murders, 2 still unsolved. What exactly is your point in all this? It's not obvious to a casual observer. Do you think 7 murders in a year is a wildly unacceptable number and more drastic action should be taken?

 

[Searcher44]

You are pathetic. Grasping at straws. That's about one city chump, not the whole country. We're doing pretty good thank you.

And;

Canada also introduced tougher gun control measures, following the École Polytechnique Massacre in 1989. Tougher screening processes were introduced for all gun purchases including risk assessments, background checks and firearms registration. Later, further classes of firearms “not reasonably used in hunting” (prohibiting semi-automatic assault weapons) became restricted.
The new measures appeared to accelerate a downward trend in gun violence involving long weapons (rifles and shotguns) but also revealed a shift to handguns as criminal weapons of choice, as Canada also experienced an upsurge in street-gang problems. Tighter controls on handguns have also followed, having some positive impact over the past five years although, in this regard, Canada’s efforts are rather undermined by the lax gun laws of its neighbour to the south. An overwhelming number of criminal handguns intercepted by the police in Canada are illegally sourced from the US.

Yeah.....the article is from 2015...dipstick...

Posted: Aug 04, 2015 8:34 PM ETLast Updated: Aug 04, 2015 8:34 PM ET


And the other article....

JULY 15, 2015 08:35 PM EDT | UPDATED: WEDNESDAY, JULY 15, 2015 08:38 PM EDT

You didn't comment on my main criticism of your OP-you use one year spike in one city to categorize a whole country. By the way Toronto is the largest city in Canada. Your article states "If you add the death and injury statistics, "Toronto has seen 88 dead or wounded by gunfire in 2015." Your article calls that number "horrifying". What would a newspaper call that Stat in your biggest city? And I assume you're criticizing my use of a three year old graph. If you've ever searched for similar data you know it's hard to find up to date (current) aggregates of statistics of this type. For instance google "FBI gun homicide rates 2015" and you get something like these;

Your point in the OP seemed to be that Canada's gun regulations have not had a positive effect. There is evidence to the contrary but like I said you really misrepresented one story about one city to push your NRA narrative. Grasping at straws. And pulling Obama into the conversation just represents a microcosm of the Republican agenda since he was elected. Say no to everything in case he might succeed at something and blame him for everything even if he's 12 steps removed from the event. Way more concern for anti-Obama memes than what is actually good for America. That's been typical of everything, not just gun control. I truly believe that 100 yrs. from now future Americans will look back at the whole bunch of you as in the same hated category as Benedict Arnold.

Dipshit......you are using cars vs. guns.....and don't realize you have been lied to by American anti gun extremists.....in order to say that gun deaths are getting close to car deaths they have to lie....they lie because in 2014...gun murder rates in America went down again...we only had 8,125 gun murders down from 8,454 in 2013......

so how do they lie...they add suicide into the gun death figures to push up their numbers......otherwise car deaths way outnumber gun murder in the United States......

God you're thick. I was using those two graphs as examples of how most statistical compilations of data available on the internet are usually a couple of years or so "out of date". I don't give a shit about car deaths compared to gun deaths. It's hard to carry on a conversation with someone with your level of comprehension. You call everyone who disagrees with you stupid or moronic or a liar. I think you've given us a real life definition of "projection".

And then I showed you articles from this year.......dipshit....showing increasing gun crime....

Get someone with a lot of patience to explain statistics to you.

 

[Skylar]

Canada has about 1/4 the per capita gun deaths as the US.

 

[charwin95]

2aguy....Last Saturday I attend a wedding of my godson in Jacksonville, Tx. It happened that there is gun show nearby. Yesterday we went to a gun show in Palestine Tx about 25 miles from Jacksonville. It did not took us long to find 2 private dealers. I asked one dealer...if I buy any gun with cash.... Do I need to fill up paperwork and back ground check? HE SAID NO.
Don't tell me you are not aware of this. I proved it to myself that there is a SALES LOOPHOLE AT GUN SHOWS.

Oct. 9, 10, 11 Civic Center 1819 West Spring St. Palestine, Tx.

 

[northpolarbear]

This doesn't make a point. If you don't let people have guns, then you will have less gun crimes. You can't deny that. Not banning guns has to do with the rights to have guns, not "no gun policy not reducing the gun crimes". Of course there will be less gun crimes if you don't let people have guns. Even for the other murders, like with a knife or a brass knuckles, there will be less because it is harder to do. You don't do it because the apparent attainable result is not worth trying, not because you don't want to but because it is harder to do.