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To be followed by a documentary entitled "Retards that believe Sweden is a socialist country"....Are we starving to death? According to PC, the US is a communist country.
If it wasn't for the evil, socialist, food stamps thousands of people would be indeed be starving under the holy "free" market rules
Tonight on Fox news, the starving Swedes...
To be followed by a documentary entitled "Retards that believe Sweden is a socialist country"....Are we starving to death? According to PC, the US is a communist country.
If it wasn't for the evil, socialist, food stamps thousands of people would be indeed be starving under the holy "free" market rules
Tonight on Fox news, the starving Swedes...
Do you always quote crazy people from your head?
+1)
Btw, does anybody know, in reality both communism and socialism were based on very wide low-level democracy. People didn't have ability to say "Hey, Brezhnev, you doing something wrong!", but could say "hey, my boss - you are really doing something wrong!" - don't try to repeat it in current life.
So, it's a logical, Ayn Rand hated the communism, because she couldn't live in communism, like her bloodsuckers family... Communism is really a formation for million people, which prefer to live by their labor, not by slave-like exploitation of other people...
If you love starving to death, then yes, Communism rocks
))
ideologies or just a skewed perception from a lack of universal knowledge....Clean off your specs.
The OP explains:
There is no essential difference between communism, socialism, Liberalism and/or Progressivism. At the heart of each is a faith and adherence to big, overarching government, the representative of the collective, at the cost of individual liberty and freedom.
Meaning you have to admit that the OP is 100% accurate.
Gracias.
Communism, socialism and liberalism - good company... Add here a feodalism, it based at a faith in government too... :
Welcome to the board, Sbiker.
What do you mean, 'good company'?
I know of no such term as 'feodalism.'
Feudalism. Sorry for my spelling.
I mean, if you could see a bloody battles between communists and liberals here, you should not combine this two different things.
Liberalism - is priority of individualism over the society. In fact, people cannot live in society and feel free of it, so in practice liberalism is a kind of parasitism of some people on others.
Communism, in ideal - is something like "superdemocracy" - a dictatorship of working majority. Without rules of defence of some minority groups in society. It's a reason of hate of communism from some different kind of people...
LOL!!! You're the complete opposite of accurate. You couldn't possibly be more incorrect and wrong
You just show on my example, how you can mix strongly opposed concepts
I'm right, because I could see at practice, what was communist and what is liberal ideologies...
In the spirit of the OP which proves nothing........and as William Shakespeare said in a play, Nothing shall come of nothing, I speak anon...King Lear..It's like the Communist Manifesto, the Bible, Mein Kamph, they suck, they are dry, philosophical moments I don't feel the propaganda lifting my spirit....I'd rather be reading IRS laws....Those can be eye crossers...So....you have strong feelings based on ignorance?
It is one of the benefits of being a Liberal....you never have to read anything, or even know anything.
A real time saver.
So you rushed out to this thread to proclaim you know nothing?
Excellent.
I prove everything I say.
More?
Watch this:
4. The sextuplets, Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, Progressivism, Nazism, were born in Germany.....birthed by the philosopher Hegel.
a. "...the State 'has the supreme right against the individual, whose supreme duty is to be a member of the State... for the right of the world spirit is above all special privileges.'" Author/historian William Shirer, quoting Georg Hegel in his The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (page 144)
b. "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual") concretizes the collectivist belief that individuals have no rights and that "the greater good" is the only standard of value. Under such a system, man is not an end to himself, only a tool to be sacrificed for the Führer, autocrat or ruling mob.
Only capitalism regards man as a sovereign individual with an inalienable right to his own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Government recognition and protection of individual rights is the hallmark of a moral, peaceful, productive society.
Sipsey Street Irregulars: The lie before the crime. "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual")
As so many Liberals deny that they are essential the same as communists....here is an amazingly similar statement from a member of the god of Democrat's....Franklin Roosevelt's commissariat:
5. Notice the same words from a modern American Democrat, and Franklin Roosevelt supporter, of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.” From a speech delivered on the Senate floorMay 14, 1943 Happy Chandler’s dangerous statism
In what way is this Democrat's pronouncement any different from those of Mussolini, Stalin, or Hitler....????
What rights do you want that you don't have?
Clean off your specs.
The OP explains:
There is no essential difference between communism, socialism, Liberalism and/or Progressivism. At the heart of each is a faith and adherence to big, overarching government, the representative of the collective, at the cost of individual liberty and freedom.
Meaning you have to admit that the OP is 100% accurate.
Gracias.
Communism, socialism and liberalism - good company... Add here a feodalism, it based at a faith in government too... :
Welcome to the board, Sbiker.
What do you mean, 'good company'?
I know of no such term as 'feodalism.'
Feudalism. Sorry for my spelling.
I mean, if you could see a bloody battles between communists and liberals here, you should not combine this two different things.
Liberalism - is priority of individualism over the society. In fact, people cannot live in society and feel free of it, so in practice liberalism is a kind of parasitism of some people on others.
Communism, in ideal - is something like "superdemocracy" - a dictatorship of working majority. Without rules of defence of some minority groups in society. It's a reason of hate of communism from some different kind of people...
LOL!!! You're the complete opposite of accurate. You couldn't possibly be more incorrect and wrong
You just show on my example, how you can mix strongly opposed concepts
I'm right, because I could see at practice, what was communist and what is liberal ideologies...
In the spirit of the OP which proves nothing........and as William Shakespeare said in a play, Nothing shall come of nothing, I speak anon...King Lear..It's like the Communist Manifesto, the Bible, Mein Kamph, they suck, they are dry, philosophical moments I don't feel the propaganda lifting my spirit....I'd rather be reading IRS laws....Those can be eye crossers...
So you rushed out to this thread to proclaim you know nothing?
Excellent.
I prove everything I say.
More?
Watch this:
4. The sextuplets, Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, Progressivism, Nazism, were born in Germany.....birthed by the philosopher Hegel.
a. "...the State 'has the supreme right against the individual, whose supreme duty is to be a member of the State... for the right of the world spirit is above all special privileges.'" Author/historian William Shirer, quoting Georg Hegel in his The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (page 144)
b. "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual") concretizes the collectivist belief that individuals have no rights and that "the greater good" is the only standard of value. Under such a system, man is not an end to himself, only a tool to be sacrificed for the Führer, autocrat or ruling mob.
Only capitalism regards man as a sovereign individual with an inalienable right to his own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Government recognition and protection of individual rights is the hallmark of a moral, peaceful, productive society.
Sipsey Street Irregulars: The lie before the crime. "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual")
As so many Liberals deny that they are essential the same as communists....here is an amazingly similar statement from a member of the god of Democrat's....Franklin Roosevelt's commissariat:
5. Notice the same words from a modern American Democrat, and Franklin Roosevelt supporter, of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.” From a speech delivered on the Senate floorMay 14, 1943 Happy Chandler’s dangerous statism
In what way is this Democrat's pronouncement any different from those of Mussolini, Stalin, or Hitler....????
What rights do you want that you don't have?
Now....why would you be so hell bent on changing the direction of this thread?
Hitting too close to home?
Uh-huh and it's worked out so spectacularly for the 100's of millions of people that have lived in countries where it's been implemented too, just ask all the slaves..er "citizens" of the former Soviet Union just how peachy things were.Btw, does anybody know, in reality both communism and socialism were based on very wide low-level democracy. People didn't have ability to say "Hey, Brezhnev, you doing something wrong!", but could say "hey, my boss - you are really doing something wrong!" - don't try to repeat it in current life.
So, it's a logical, Ayn Rand hated the communism, because she couldn't live in communism, like her bloodsuckers family... Communism is really a formation for million people, which prefer to live by their labor, not by slave-like exploitation of other people...
It's really psychologically hard, but look at mirror first 
Cuba... you want me to point it out on a map for you too?To be followed by a documentary entitled "Retards that believe Sweden is a socialist country"....Are we starving to death? According to PC, the US is a communist country.
If it wasn't for the evil, socialist, food stamps thousands of people would be indeed be starving under the holy "free" market rules
Tonight on Fox news, the starving Swedes...
Name a socialist country.
So? The largest contiguous empire in the world was held by people by China, the Mongols, shouldn't we be fearing them also, I mean, at anytime they could go back to reconquering their old empire...In the spirit of the OP which proves nothing........and as William Shakespeare said in a play, Nothing shall come of nothing, I speak anon...King Lear..It's like the Communist Manifesto, the Bible, Mein Kamph, they suck, they are dry, philosophical moments I don't feel the propaganda lifting my spirit....I'd rather be reading IRS laws....Those can be eye crossers...So....you have strong feelings based on ignorance?
It is one of the benefits of being a Liberal....you never have to read anything, or even know anything.
A real time saver.
So you rushed out to this thread to proclaim you know nothing?
Excellent.
I prove everything I say.
More?
Watch this:
4. The sextuplets, Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, Progressivism, Nazism, were born in Germany.....birthed by the philosopher Hegel.
a. "...the State 'has the supreme right against the individual, whose supreme duty is to be a member of the State... for the right of the world spirit is above all special privileges.'" Author/historian William Shirer, quoting Georg Hegel in his The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (page 144)
b. "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual") concretizes the collectivist belief that individuals have no rights and that "the greater good" is the only standard of value. Under such a system, man is not an end to himself, only a tool to be sacrificed for the Führer, autocrat or ruling mob.
Only capitalism regards man as a sovereign individual with an inalienable right to his own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Government recognition and protection of individual rights is the hallmark of a moral, peaceful, productive society.
Sipsey Street Irregulars: The lie before the crime. "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual")
As so many Liberals deny that they are essential the same as communists....here is an amazingly similar statement from a member of the god of Democrat's....Franklin Roosevelt's commissariat:
5. Notice the same words from a modern American Democrat, and Franklin Roosevelt supporter, of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.” From a speech delivered on the Senate floorMay 14, 1943 Happy Chandler’s dangerous statism
In what way is this Democrat's pronouncement any different from those of Mussolini, Stalin, or Hitler....????
Communism, socialism and liberalism - good company... Add here a feodalism, it based at a faith in government too... :
Welcome to the board, Sbiker.
What do you mean, 'good company'?
I know of no such term as 'feodalism.'
Feudalism. Sorry for my spelling.
I mean, if you could see a bloody battles between communists and liberals here, you should not combine this two different things.
Liberalism - is priority of individualism over the society. In fact, people cannot live in society and feel free of it, so in practice liberalism is a kind of parasitism of some people on others.
Communism, in ideal - is something like "superdemocracy" - a dictatorship of working majority. Without rules of defence of some minority groups in society. It's a reason of hate of communism from some different kind of people...
LOL!!! You're the complete opposite of accurate. You couldn't possibly be more incorrect and wrong
You just show on my example, how you can mix strongly opposed concepts
I'm right, because I could see at practice, what was communist and what is liberal ideologies...
You fail to understand that what is called 'Liberalism' is not classical liberalism...but a bastardization of the name: communist John Dewey (look him up) had the Socialist Party change its name to 'Liberal'....and that is the modern iteration.
Cuba... you want me to point it out on a map for you too?To be followed by a documentary entitled "Retards that believe Sweden is a socialist country"....Are we starving to death? According to PC, the US is a communist country.
If it wasn't for the evil, socialist, food stamps thousands of people would be indeed be starving under the holy "free" market rules
Tonight on Fox news, the starving Swedes...
Name a socialist country.
Do you always quote crazy people from your head?
+1
Btw, does anybody know, in reality both communism and socialism were based on very wide low-level democracy. People didn't have ability to say "Hey, Brezhnev, you doing something wrong!", but could say "hey, my boss - you are really doing something wrong!" - don't try to repeat it in current life.
So, it's a logical, Ayn Rand hated the communism, because she couldn't live in communism, like her bloodsuckers family... Communism is really a formation for million people, which prefer to live by their labor, not by slave-like exploitation of other people...
If you love starving to death, then yes, Communism rocks
Just point on somebody, who dead from starvation because of Communism
Don't repeat a stupid propaganda. There are a few things in world, which we cannot understand by simple logic... Believing in fairy tales, do you know, how much you really pay for every of it?
So? The largest contiguous empire in the world was held by people by China, the Mongols, shouldn't we be fearing them also, I mean, at anytime they could go back to reconquering their old empire...In the spirit of the OP which proves nothing........and as William Shakespeare said in a play, Nothing shall come of nothing, I speak anon...King Lear..It's like the Communist Manifesto, the Bible, Mein Kamph, they suck, they are dry, philosophical moments I don't feel the propaganda lifting my spirit....I'd rather be reading IRS laws....Those can be eye crossers...
So you rushed out to this thread to proclaim you know nothing?
Excellent.
I prove everything I say.
More?
Watch this:
4. The sextuplets, Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, Progressivism, Nazism, were born in Germany.....birthed by the philosopher Hegel.
a. "...the State 'has the supreme right against the individual, whose supreme duty is to be a member of the State... for the right of the world spirit is above all special privileges.'" Author/historian William Shirer, quoting Georg Hegel in his The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (page 144)
b. "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual") concretizes the collectivist belief that individuals have no rights and that "the greater good" is the only standard of value. Under such a system, man is not an end to himself, only a tool to be sacrificed for the Führer, autocrat or ruling mob.
Only capitalism regards man as a sovereign individual with an inalienable right to his own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Government recognition and protection of individual rights is the hallmark of a moral, peaceful, productive society.
Sipsey Street Irregulars: The lie before the crime. "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual")
As so many Liberals deny that they are essential the same as communists....here is an amazingly similar statement from a member of the god of Democrat's....Franklin Roosevelt's commissariat:
5. Notice the same words from a modern American Democrat, and Franklin Roosevelt supporter, of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.” From a speech delivered on the Senate floorMay 14, 1943 Happy Chandler’s dangerous statism
In what way is this Democrat's pronouncement any different from those of Mussolini, Stalin, or Hitler....????
Speaking of which....
1. Obama releases all the terrorists in Gitmo
2. He pulls out of the 'empty' prison camp
3. His communist pals, the Castros, take it over....
4. ...and sell it to.....guess who. China.
5. Ending of the Monroe Doctrine: transforming the entire hemisphere.
Could be?
This binary, "anyone to the Left of me is a communist" thinking really doesn't help the conservative cause. Why? Because it's just so easy to poke gaping holes in binary thought.
We're nowhere near communal ownership of property, we're nowhere near central control of production & distribution. Not within miles.
I could go on.
Economic/political systems exist along a continuum. There are very few absolutes. But that's too complicated to fit on bumper sticker, and it is not something you'll hear from a radio host or internet blogger, whose professional motivations are to keep their constituents naive, angry and combative.
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Do you always quote crazy people from your head?
+1
Btw, does anybody know, in reality both communism and socialism were based on very wide low-level democracy. People didn't have ability to say "Hey, Brezhnev, you doing something wrong!", but could say "hey, my boss - you are really doing something wrong!" - don't try to repeat it in current life.
So, it's a logical, Ayn Rand hated the communism, because she couldn't live in communism, like her bloodsuckers family... Communism is really a formation for million people, which prefer to live by their labor, not by slave-like exploitation of other people...
If you love starving to death, then yes, Communism rocks
Just point on somebody, who dead from starvation because of Communism
Don't repeat a stupid propaganda. There are a few things in world, which we cannot understand by simple logic... Believing in fairy tales, do you know, how much you really pay for every of it?
You're not serious.
But...heck....lots of Americans are communists and don't know it.....so, you may be just as indoctrinated.
Welcome to the Democrat Party.....soon to be sharia compliant.
4. The sextuplets, Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, Progressivism, Nazism, were born in Germany.....birthed by the philosopher Hegel.....
In the spirit of the OP which proves nothing........and as William Shakespeare said in a play, Nothing shall come of nothing, I speak anon...King Lear..It's like the Communist Manifesto, the Bible, Mein Kamph, they suck, they are dry, philosophical moments I don't feel the propaganda lifting my spirit....I'd rather be reading IRS laws....Those can be eye crossers...
So you rushed out to this thread to proclaim you know nothing?
Excellent.
I prove everything I say.
More?
Watch this:
4. The sextuplets, Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, Progressivism, Nazism, were born in Germany.....birthed by the philosopher Hegel.
a. "...the State 'has the supreme right against the individual, whose supreme duty is to be a member of the State... for the right of the world spirit is above all special privileges.'" Author/historian William Shirer, quoting Georg Hegel in his The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (page 144)
b. "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual") concretizes the collectivist belief that individuals have no rights and that "the greater good" is the only standard of value. Under such a system, man is not an end to himself, only a tool to be sacrificed for the Führer, autocrat or ruling mob.
Only capitalism regards man as a sovereign individual with an inalienable right to his own life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Government recognition and protection of individual rights is the hallmark of a moral, peaceful, productive society.
Sipsey Street Irregulars: The lie before the crime. "Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz" ("The community comes before the individual")
As so many Liberals deny that they are essential the same as communists....here is an amazingly similar statement from a member of the god of Democrat's....Franklin Roosevelt's commissariat:
5. Notice the same words from a modern American Democrat, and Franklin Roosevelt supporter, of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.” From a speech delivered on the Senate floorMay 14, 1943 Happy Chandler’s dangerous statism
In what way is this Democrat's pronouncement any different from those of Mussolini, Stalin, or Hitler....????
What rights do you want that you don't have?
Now....why would you be so hell bent on changing the direction of this thread?
Hitting too close to home?
I can't think of an issue on which I'm on the fence.Before you go on with your fence sitting.....how about you try to respond to post #114.
