Yet another school shooting

[2aguy]

Florida just told districts that they can arm staff.

None of the states largest districts chose to do so.

It’s stupid. Even Florida knows it is stupid.

Then tell congress, with 2,500 cops to guard 535 people, to fire them...since having armed people around is so stupid....

 

[WTP]

Santa Fe High School shooting: Suspect in custody, assistant principal says - CNN

Details still breaking.

When will this end?

Same time we stop hearing report after report of parents abusing and killing their kids,idiots leaving babies In hot cars to die while they party,gamble,OD,take a nap, morons torturing animals for fun,gang violence , violence against the elderly,violence against the police etc.

Violence over all is an everyday thing. Society in general doesn't value life anymore let alone know what compassion is and you expect violence to end just because? Look at the teachers we let teach our children.

This new shooter was allegedly bullied by the school coaches.

We have college professors teaching students to beat protesters and set fire to buildings with liberal approval after all.

What is your proof that college professors are teaching students to beat protesters and telling them to set fires to buildings?

 

[hunarcy]

When we get rid of democrat gun free zones, allow armed staff at schools and actually take these shooters seriously, it is already coming out he gave off the traditional warning signs....

Those who put their 2nd A. right before the lives of others are loathsome, hateful, reprehensible and heinous.

And those who put their irrational hate of gun owners before protecting children are vile assholes.....we need to end democrat gun free zones which draw these shooters...we need to arm and train school staff so that these schools are no longer targets...but as long as anti gunners like you need dead children to fool uninformed Americans into giving you power, you will never protect these children.....you need dead children, they are your golden ticket for gun confiscation.

I don't hate you, clearly you are mentally ill. Being so obsessed with guns is not normal and not something all gun owners advertise. As I've written before and will continue to state, the NRA policy on gun control enables mass murder by firearms. That makes it and its supporters culpable for the murders today, the past and in the future.

The NRA policy is ireelevant since it has neither the ability nor the authority to pass and uphold any laws whatsoever

The NRA has the ability, and uses it to bribe members of Congress - who put their job before the lives of children. It is really that simple.

If a member of Congress were to seek sane gun controls, s/he would find an opponent funded by the NRA going against them at the next primary election, and if a member of Congress, or someone seeking a seat, stands for the 2nd A. "shall not infringe", s/he is sure to be well funded again by the NRA.

Good grief, you come across as a moron! The NRA doesn't "bribe" members of Congress. They give money to candidates who support the goals of the NRA, which is their right. They withhold making donations to people who don't support the goals of the Association, as is their right. Also, after almost 80 years of gun control pushed by the Left, if we don't have "sane gun controls" it's the fault of the Left for not passing "sane gun controls". Do you give money to candidates who don't support your goals? Do you donate to anti-abortion candidates? Why don't you stop posting if you can't do better than you did in this post?

 

[2aguy]

Coaches and other students tortured him verbally and mentally. Said he smelled bad, was fat and ugly, laughed at him, etc. So he snapped. I hope he got the ones that were doing it to him.

(Another student stated the guy was bullied by coaches and students. No surprise, that).

THAT...

Is the root of the cause.

(Looking at you, Wry Catcher)

Had he not had access to guns, ..., The fact is, if he was the target of bullies, he had alternatives. We know he had access to guns, do we know if he had access to counselors, parents he could talk to, or a favorite teacher? There is no singular explanation for his motivation. What we know is he had means and an opportunity.

Granted, guns are the most intimidating alternative. But he picked up the weapon and chose to fire it. And it appears it was all motivated by bullying. Perhaps if we taught children to respect each other, we wouldn't have these mass shootings.

He had a means, and an opportunity. The gun was merely an implement. His hatred towards those who tormented him was the driving force. Not the weapon.

The history of mankind and his hatred towards others have been with us since the beginning. And that characteristic about humans will never change. There will always be something or someone to hate. Implements designed for mass murder have to go. There is no other logical/intelligent route to take.

You mean like Rental Trucks? A rental truck was used to murder more people in one attack than all the mass shootings have murdered each year......except for 2017.......so, they have to go, right? Since they are implements used for mass murder?

A truck in Toronto was used to murder 10 and injured 15, that is worse than this incident since though 10 were killed, the same as the truck attack, 15 were injured instead of 10....so trucks have to go...right?

 

[WTP]

"Over ran"......English your second language?

Classic.

Regressive liberal ROE


1. Demand a link or an explanation of the truth they are objecting to.

2. Promptly reject all explanations as right wing lies. Smoke spin deflect

3. Ignore any facts presented.

4. Ridicule spelling and typos, punctuation.

5. Attack the person as being juvenile, ie: "are you 12 years old", question their education, intelligence, Age

6. Employ misdirection,

6a. smear people

6b. attack religion

6c. attack their rationality.

7. Lie, make false assumptions

8. Play race/gender card/misogynist card

9. Play gay/lesbian card

10. Play the Nazi/Fascist/bigot card

11. Make up stuff/So you got nothing?

12. Deny constantly

13. Reword and repeat

14. Pretending not to understand, playing ignorant/what did I lie about

15. When losing, resort to personal attacks.

16. Russia

17. Fox News/Alex Jones/Brietbart/infowars/Stormfront/Gateway/hannity

18. You can’t read.

19. Trump Trump Trump TrumpTrump Trump

Yea, that explains a lot of why the Right has serious problems. Glad to see you are coming around to figuring out why intelligent debate is pretty much impossible with you folks.

The Left always has a Final Solution.

Killing all the guns will work about as well as killing all the babies.

You can never kill them all, no matter how hard you try.

Who said anything about killing all the guns? Oh that's right, you did.

No one noticed you didn't deny killing all the babies.

Bait taken, fish landed.

You are all over the place trying to make as little sense as possible.

 

[BlueGin]

Santa Fe High School shooting: Suspect in custody, assistant principal says - CNN

Details still breaking.

When will this end?

Same time we stop hearing report after report of parents abusing and killing their kids,idiots leaving babies In hot cars to die while they party,gamble,OD,take a nap, morons torturing animals for fun,gang violence , violence against the elderly,violence against the police etc.

Violence over all is an everyday thing. Society in general doesn't value life anymore let alone know what compassion is and you expect violence to end just because? Look at the teachers we let teach our children.

This new shooter was allegedly bullied by the school coaches.

We have college professors teaching students to beat protesters and set fire to buildings with liberal approval after all.

What is your proof that college professors are teaching students to beat protesters and telling them to set fires to buildings?

Because they were arrested for such at Berkeley during the protests.

 

[EverCurious]

Anyone here ever been bullied when in school? I was. Teachers did nothing. Mom did nothing. Principle did nothing. Went on for a year in my Freshman year. I got fed up. I didn't snap, though. But I daydreamed about killing my tormentors, oh yes indeedy I did.
Instead..I learned to fight. Then I began to confront them. And I kicked some fucking ass. After that...I was pretty reclusive. Still am.

Are you seriously a girl Gracie? (cuz sorry but you don't sound like one) ..

If so, GOOD on ya!

Wait a damn second. We've been told for at least a decade now that men and women are the same, that gender is just a social construct, that everyone is being indoctrinated by their birth doctor's into a forced gender identity, etc.

What does a "girl" sound like?

Or maybe all those folks who admonish others for not doing that shit are hypocritical bastards?

Funny.

 

[Aba Incieni]

Classic.

Regressive liberal ROE


1. Demand a link or an explanation of the truth they are objecting to.

2. Promptly reject all explanations as right wing lies. Smoke spin deflect

3. Ignore any facts presented.

4. Ridicule spelling and typos, punctuation.

5. Attack the person as being juvenile, ie: "are you 12 years old", question their education, intelligence, Age

6. Employ misdirection,

6a. smear people

6b. attack religion

6c. attack their rationality.

7. Lie, make false assumptions

8. Play race/gender card/misogynist card

9. Play gay/lesbian card

10. Play the Nazi/Fascist/bigot card

11. Make up stuff/So you got nothing?

12. Deny constantly

13. Reword and repeat

14. Pretending not to understand, playing ignorant/what did I lie about

15. When losing, resort to personal attacks.

16. Russia

17. Fox News/Alex Jones/Brietbart/infowars/Stormfront/Gateway/hannity

18. You can’t read.

19. Trump Trump Trump TrumpTrump Trump

Yea, that explains a lot of why the Right has serious problems. Glad to see you are coming around to figuring out why intelligent debate is pretty much impossible with you folks.

The Left always has a Final Solution.

Killing all the guns will work about as well as killing all the babies.

You can never kill them all, no matter how hard you try.

Who said anything about killing all the guns? Oh that's right, you did.

No one noticed you didn't deny killing all the babies.

Bait taken, fish landed.

You are all over the place trying to make as little sense as possible.

Too late, snapper. We've got you scaled and filleted and on the barby.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

More lives shattered. These people will never ever recover from this.

Shooter got the guns from daddy.

Parents consistently refuse to take responsibility for their own kids. Read the gun nuts here. They say they give their children guns. They actually admit to giving guns to children.

Its long past time to charge the parent(s) of underage shooters. If your kid murders someone, YOU should be held legally responsible.

Throw the gun nuts in jail.

Think that would get their attention?

 

[bodecea]

Some staff is just as bad as the bullying students. A better way is to yank yer kid out of school and teach them at home. Hire a tutor.

Sadly this stuff has my daughter about to begin the homeschooling of her children next year. Worried about the lack of interaction that will be missed, but she says they will have plenty of that with their friends, sports, activities, and family.

That should be discouraged. Kids are safer in school than in most homes. Frightening children by keeping them home because of a statistically unlikely event is doing more harm than good. IMO.

Unless you live in a retard town that lets school staff carry weapons on campus. Then, homeschooling is sensible.

You mean like 14 states that already do this and have been doing it for years.....?

That’s fake news.

You lie. Lots of schools in Texas do it.

How'd that work out for Santa Fe? Didn't they have armed police officers on campus?

 

[beagle9]

Schools need to become volunteer for the parents and their children after 6th grade. No child in the 7th grade should be required to go to a public school if that child doesn't want to. His or her parents should take total responsibility for their childrens continued education, and if a child of 13 doesn't want to attend a public school after that age, then it should be honored as such.

Alternative's should be offered after 6th grade, and a choosing should go on next by the parents, and by the child in order to continue the educational process at the place of the parents and child's choosing. If attendance drops dramatically at the public school, then the school should be closed or downsized.

Maybe government should only be involved very lightly in supporting elementary schools only, and after that the parents would be given a list of schools to choose from by the private sector, in which would best suit the child's educational needs, personality and etc.

Forcing children into these hell holes against their will, to then be brainwashed due to these institutions being highjacked over the years is now proving to be a deadly disaster these days.

You know that at no time in a child's educational life are they REQUIRED to go to a public school, right?

Wrong.... If you don't send your child to school, then see what happens next.

 

[WTP]

Coaches and other students tortured him verbally and mentally. Said he smelled bad, was fat and ugly, laughed at him, etc. So he snapped. I hope he got the ones that were doing it to him.

(Another student stated the guy was bullied by coaches and students. No surprise, that).

THAT...

Is the root of the cause.

(Looking at you, Wry Catcher)

Had he not had access to guns, ..., The fact is, if he was the target of bullies, he had alternatives. We know he had access to guns, do we know if he had access to counselors, parents he could talk to, or a favorite teacher? There is no singular explanation for his motivation. What we know is he had means and an opportunity.

Granted, guns are the most intimidating alternative. But he picked up the weapon and chose to fire it. And it appears it was all motivated by bullying. Perhaps if we taught children to respect each other, we wouldn't have these mass shootings.

He had a means, and an opportunity. The gun was merely an implement. His hatred towards those who tormented him was the driving force. Not the weapon.

The history of mankind and his hatred towards others have been with us since the beginning. And that characteristic about humans will never change. There will always be something or someone to hate. Implements designed for mass murder have to go. There is no other logical/intelligent route to take.

You mean like Rental Trucks? A rental truck was used to murder more people in one attack than all the mass shootings have murdered each year......except for 2017.......so, they have to go, right? Since they are implements used for mass murder?

A truck in Toronto was used to murder 10 and injured 15, that is worse than this incident since though 10 were killed, the same as the truck attack, 15 were injured instead of 10....so trucks have to go...right?

Go to the statistics table and tell me how many people get killed from AR's versus rental trucks each year. That's right, the "rental truck statistics aren't there, because there is not a regular year to year comparison to go by. Your analogy sucks.

 

[2aguy]

Coaches and other students tortured him verbally and mentally. Said he smelled bad, was fat and ugly, laughed at him, etc. So he snapped. I hope he got the ones that were doing it to him.

(Another student stated the guy was bullied by coaches and students. No surprise, that).

THAT...

Is the root of the cause.

(Looking at you, Wry Catcher)

Had he not had access to guns, ..., The fact is, if he was the target of bullies, he had alternatives. We know he had access to guns, do we know if he had access to counselors, parents he could talk to, or a favorite teacher? There is no singular explanation for his motivation. What we know is he had means and an opportunity.

Granted, guns are the most intimidating alternative. But he picked up the weapon and chose to fire it. And it appears it was all motivated by bullying. Perhaps if we taught children to respect each other, we wouldn't have these mass shootings.

He had a means, and an opportunity. The gun was merely an implement. His hatred towards those who tormented him was the driving force. Not the weapon.

The history of mankind and his hatred towards others have been with us since the beginning. And that characteristic about humans will never change. There will always be something or someone to hate. Implements designed for mass murder have to go. There is no other logical/intelligent route to take.

You mean like hand guns? The worst school shooting was Virginia Tech.....32 killed with 2 pistols.....

How about knives.....knives are used to kill more people each year than guns are used to kill people in mass public shootings.....so knives, which kill more people, need to go?

Expanded Homicide Data Table 4

Rifles....374

knives....1,604

blunt objects....472

bare hands....656

 

[2aguy]

THAT...

Is the root of the cause.

(Looking at you, Wry Catcher)

Had he not had access to guns, ..., The fact is, if he was the target of bullies, he had alternatives. We know he had access to guns, do we know if he had access to counselors, parents he could talk to, or a favorite teacher? There is no singular explanation for his motivation. What we know is he had means and an opportunity.

Granted, guns are the most intimidating alternative. But he picked up the weapon and chose to fire it. And it appears it was all motivated by bullying. Perhaps if we taught children to respect each other, we wouldn't have these mass shootings.

He had a means, and an opportunity. The gun was merely an implement. His hatred towards those who tormented him was the driving force. Not the weapon.

The history of mankind and his hatred towards others have been with us since the beginning. And that characteristic about humans will never change. There will always be something or someone to hate. Implements designed for mass murder have to go. There is no other logical/intelligent route to take.

You mean like Rental Trucks? A rental truck was used to murder more people in one attack than all the mass shootings have murdered each year......except for 2017.......so, they have to go, right? Since they are implements used for mass murder?

A truck in Toronto was used to murder 10 and injured 15, that is worse than this incident since though 10 were killed, the same as the truck attack, 15 were injured instead of 10....so trucks have to go...right?

Go to the statistics table and tell me how many people get killed from AR's versus rental trucks each year. That's right, the "rental truck statistics aren't there, because there is not a regular year to year comparison to go by. Your analogy sucks.

Nope....it is truthful, which is why you hate it...

Lawn mowers kill more people each year than AR-15 rifles do in mass public shootings...as do bees and wasps....they kill more people than mass shooters using all types of guns...

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

Rental Truck in Nice, France, 86 murdered in 5 minutes...

Total number murdered in mass public shootings by year...

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 75

(Lawn Mower Accidents Rise This Time of Year | MU News Bureau)

People murdered each year in mass public shootings...
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf


Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760

 

[WTP]

Yea, that explains a lot of why the Right has serious problems. Glad to see you are coming around to figuring out why intelligent debate is pretty much impossible with you folks.

The Left always has a Final Solution.

Killing all the guns will work about as well as killing all the babies.

You can never kill them all, no matter how hard you try.

Who said anything about killing all the guns? Oh that's right, you did.

No one noticed you didn't deny killing all the babies.

Bait taken, fish landed.

You are all over the place trying to make as little sense as possible.

Too late, snapper. We've got you scaled and filleted and on the barby.

It's good that you think you know what you are talking about, because no one else does.

 

[Aba Incieni]

The Left always has a Final Solution.

Killing all the guns will work about as well as killing all the babies.

You can never kill them all, no matter how hard you try.

Who said anything about killing all the guns? Oh that's right, you did.

No one noticed you didn't deny killing all the babies.

Bait taken, fish landed.

You are all over the place trying to make as little sense as possible.

Too late, snapper. We've got you scaled and filleted and on the barby.

It's good that you think you know what you are talking about, because no one else does.

Still too late. We won the trophy.

 

[2aguy]

THAT...

Is the root of the cause.

(Looking at you, Wry Catcher)

Had he not had access to guns, ..., The fact is, if he was the target of bullies, he had alternatives. We know he had access to guns, do we know if he had access to counselors, parents he could talk to, or a favorite teacher? There is no singular explanation for his motivation. What we know is he had means and an opportunity.

Granted, guns are the most intimidating alternative. But he picked up the weapon and chose to fire it. And it appears it was all motivated by bullying. Perhaps if we taught children to respect each other, we wouldn't have these mass shootings.

He had a means, and an opportunity. The gun was merely an implement. His hatred towards those who tormented him was the driving force. Not the weapon.

The history of mankind and his hatred towards others have been with us since the beginning. And that characteristic about humans will never change. There will always be something or someone to hate. Implements designed for mass murder have to go. There is no other logical/intelligent route to take.

You mean like Rental Trucks? A rental truck was used to murder more people in one attack than all the mass shootings have murdered each year......except for 2017.......so, they have to go, right? Since they are implements used for mass murder?

A truck in Toronto was used to murder 10 and injured 15, that is worse than this incident since though 10 were killed, the same as the truck attack, 15 were injured instead of 10....so trucks have to go...right?

Go to the statistics table and tell me how many people get killed from AR's versus rental trucks each year. That's right, the "rental truck statistics aren't there, because there is not a regular year to year comparison to go by. Your analogy sucks.

Rental Trucks are the latest tool of killers.....easy to rent, cheaper than guns, they avoid the scrutiny of guns and they can kill just as many as guns do......

 

[beagle9]

More lives shattered. These people will never ever recover from this.

Shooter got the guns from daddy.

Parents consistently refuse to take responsibility for their own kids. Read the gun nuts here. They say they give their children guns. They actually admit to giving guns to children.

Its long past time to charge the parent(s) of underage shooters. If your kid murders someone, YOU should be held legally responsible.

Throw the gun nuts in jail.

Think that would get their attention?

They don't know their children anymore.. They think they do, but as is proven many times over these days, they don't... Radical Liberalism and it's educational take over of the public education years ago now, is exactly what's wrong with everything now, including what's wrong with these kids.

 

[WTP]

Had he not had access to guns, ..., The fact is, if he was the target of bullies, he had alternatives. We know he had access to guns, do we know if he had access to counselors, parents he could talk to, or a favorite teacher? There is no singular explanation for his motivation. What we know is he had means and an opportunity.

Granted, guns are the most intimidating alternative. But he picked up the weapon and chose to fire it. And it appears it was all motivated by bullying. Perhaps if we taught children to respect each other, we wouldn't have these mass shootings.

He had a means, and an opportunity. The gun was merely an implement. His hatred towards those who tormented him was the driving force. Not the weapon.

The history of mankind and his hatred towards others have been with us since the beginning. And that characteristic about humans will never change. There will always be something or someone to hate. Implements designed for mass murder have to go. There is no other logical/intelligent route to take.

You mean like Rental Trucks? A rental truck was used to murder more people in one attack than all the mass shootings have murdered each year......except for 2017.......so, they have to go, right? Since they are implements used for mass murder?

A truck in Toronto was used to murder 10 and injured 15, that is worse than this incident since though 10 were killed, the same as the truck attack, 15 were injured instead of 10....so trucks have to go...right?

Go to the statistics table and tell me how many people get killed from AR's versus rental trucks each year. That's right, the "rental truck statistics aren't there, because there is not a regular year to year comparison to go by. Your analogy sucks.

Nope....it is truthful, which is why you hate it...

Lawn mowers kill more people each year than AR-15 rifles do in mass public shootings...as do bees and wasps....they kill more people than mass shooters using all types of guns...

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

Rental Truck in Nice, France, 86 murdered in 5 minutes...

Total number murdered in mass public shootings by year...

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 75

(Lawn Mower Accidents Rise This Time of Year | MU News Bureau)

People murdered each year in mass public shootings...
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf


Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760

Accidental deaths! Boss, you're getting mighty desperate aren't you to justify owning AR weapons that no one can logically/intelligently justify owning?

 

[2aguy]

Sadly this stuff has my daughter about to begin the homeschooling of her children next year. Worried about the lack of interaction that will be missed, but she says they will have plenty of that with their friends, sports, activities, and family.

That should be discouraged. Kids are safer in school than in most homes. Frightening children by keeping them home because of a statistically unlikely event is doing more harm than good. IMO.

Unless you live in a retard town that lets school staff carry weapons on campus. Then, homeschooling is sensible.

You mean like 14 states that already do this and have been doing it for years.....?

That’s fake news.

You lie. Lots of schools in Texas do it.

How'd that work out for Santa Fe? Didn't they have armed police officers on campus?

2...and they weren't in the area when the attack started...but when they got there the attack ended...

Now, if you have armed and trained staff, the mass shooters don't know where the good guy with a gun is.....that keeps them away.....