YUGE WINNING! Obama's Un-American Mandate Repealed...

[Deno]

Obamacare is so popular, they had to threaten people to purchase Obamacare else be punished by a government fine that's how popular it is.

Obamacare is so terrible the Republicans couldn't come up with something better to replace it.

Sure we can...
It's called competition across state lines..

 

[debbiedowner]

$700 tax on every person who doesn’t want to buy Obamacare.

Bye bye tax on the poor.

Dems are scum. Trump just lowered taxes on the poor.

Well, no, he didn't.

He just raised insurance costs on everyone else.

Wait a second Yahoo, so before Obama care people didn't buy insurance, Obama care came along and raised premiums and deductibles sky high , now you are telling us if we get rid of the mandate it will raise them more?

Not logical

Well, it is logical, you still have the 10 mandated essential health benefits.

 

[debbiedowner]

Obamacare is so popular, they had to threaten people to purchase Obamacare else be punished by a government fine that's how popular it is.

Obamacare is so terrible the Republicans couldn't come up with something better to replace it.

Sure we can...
It's called competition across state lines..

How's that working out? lol

 

[jon_berzerk]

There isn’t a $695 penalty for poor people who don’t buy Obamacare?

Why don’t you explain the Obamacare mandate for all of us? How does it work, specifically?

I’ll hold my breath over here while you figure out how to explain the Obamacare mandate.

No, Mr know it all you explain the mandate and at what cutoff someone has to pay the penalty and tell us about the 50+ excemptions someone may apply for. You seem to have all the answers smart man.

If the mandate is meaningless then getting rid of it means nothing.

getting rid of the mandate ans federal subsidy will lower healthcare costs

why should big insurance lower any premium

when they simply get 80 -90 percent of the premium

from the government

--LOL

under that system there is absolutely no reason to lower a premium

Obamacare is a wealth redistribution scheme. In this case filthy liberals are forcing younger healthy people to purchase bloated overpriced Obamacare policies so liberals can take money from these younger healthy people, and use their money to gift cheap healthcare to the deadbeats and moochers to buy their votes. Meanwhile younger healthy people who don't have that much money early in their career get screwed.

and who benefits

big insurance

since they know they will be subsidized no matter what

 

[Deno]

Well, considering the GOP lied to us for eight years about Repeal & Replace, maybe their flock will find a way to celebrate this remarkable and absolutely game-changing achievement.

The Mandate is gone. It was Un-American. The ultimate Big Government abuse of power. So i have to thank the GOP and Trump. They delivered.

Okay, how will this help? Walk me through it.
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It is a Civil Rights issue...the Government can't force you to buy something.....

Nolte: Obamacare Mandate Repeal Is the Most Important Civil Rights Victory in Years - Breitbart

Going all the way back to 2009, it was obvious Obamacare would end up looking like a Rube Goldberg machine powered by totalitarianism. Who would have ever guessed, though, it was such a fiasco that the mandate would actually cost the government money — a delicious irony that would result in its undoing.
It works like this…

For the sin of being born, Obamacare mandates that every American purchase health insurance. If we do not purchase this totally unnecessary, godawful product (more on this below), we are required by law to pay a hefty tax to the federal government.


Somehow, and I do not really care how, this tax actually costs the government money, some $340 billion — with a “B” — every ten years.

Only Bill Ayers’ pal and his merry band of congressional nincompoops could crawl so far up their own backsides that they were able to find a tax that increases the deficit.

But thank heavens they did. Had they not, the Senate would not have repealed the mandate Friday night.


After the humiliation of failing to keep their defining promise to repeal Obamacare, the Senate turned to tax reform, which also looked sketchy due to deficit projections. But then the clouds parted and the stars aligned with the discovery that repealing the Obamacare mandate would save the government this $340 billion.

Talk about a win-win. Here was a way to kill the most hated (and crucial) part of Obamacare and pass tax cuts. And that is exactly what happened — the American people won a sweet two-fer: lower taxes and freedom from a fascist mandate.

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If I purchase a car, I am voluntarily taking on certain civic responsibilities that require the purchase of insurance. I have no problem with that. The Obamacare mandate is something altogether different.

For no other reason other than the fact I am born, the mandate is the federal government forcing me to buy something. This is nothing less than a legalized violation of my civil rights.

Forget the fact that Obamacare so over-regulates the insurance industry that we are now required to purchase a ridiculously expensive, one-size-fits-all Cadillac plan with a deductible so sky-high most of us will never use it. That is the least of this outrage, and something the Senate still needs to fix.

What I am talking about is the principle of the state forcing you to purchase something for your own good and for the good of others.

Sorry to be crude, but f**k that.

Setting a precedent that allows the government to force me to buy something for my own good is as un-American as it gets. What if studies show that the key to a long life is owning a Bible and gun? Is it okay with you Obamacare fans if Trump and Co. mandates the purchase of those?

Then why do we have to buy car insurance?

Apples and Oranges..
You ever hear of a thing called liability?

 

[Rustic]

So, you believe we should subsidize the "greedy" insurance company's? Isn't that what leftists call them, rich and greedy!

No, I think we should have single payer and be done with it.

But if we aren't going to do that despite it working perfectly well in the rest of the world, then you need an individual mandate if you aren't going to allow the insurance companies to cheat people after they've already paid premiums.

That was the deal.
They can't cheat their customers.
Their customers can't cheat them.

To hell with single payer, keep your socialized medicine to yourselves. Leave the rest of us out of it...

 

[Deno]

Obamacare is so popular, they had to threaten people to purchase Obamacare else be punished by a government fine that's how popular it is.

Obamacare is so terrible the Republicans couldn't come up with something better to replace it.

Sure we can...
It's called competition across state lines..

How's that working out? lol

LOL, you don't have a clue do you?

 

[Rustic]

Finally a US Congressional achievement i can celebrate. The Mandate is gone. It should have never been allowed to happen. So i have to congratulate and thank the GOP and President Trump bigtime. They ended the Mandate and got some Tax Reform done. A Yuge accomplishment.


Senate GOP repeals ObamaCare Mandate

Senate Republicans have approved the repeal of ObamaCare’s individual mandate as part of their tax-cut bill, a major step toward ending an unpopular part of the health-care law.

“Families ought to be able to make decisions about what they want to buy and what works for them — not the government,” Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) said, hailing the accomplishment.

The Senate tax bill must still be reconciled with House legislation that does not include the mandate’s repeal. But that is unlikely to be a major issue, given support in the GOP conference for repealing the mandate.

Repealing the mandate also saves $300 billion over ten years...

Senate GOP repeals ObamaCare mandate
DRUDGE REPORT 2018®

how stupid do you lowlife loons have to be to cheer for people being unable to buy health insurance.

now go pretend you're a christian.

scum

Health insurance is not health care you stupid bitch… LOL

 

[Rustic]

Finally a US Congressional achievement i can celebrate. The Mandate is gone. It should have never been allowed to happen. So i have to congratulate and thank the GOP and President Trump bigtime. They ended the Mandate and got some Tax Reform done. A Yuge accomplishment.


Senate GOP repeals ObamaCare Mandate

Senate Republicans have approved the repeal of ObamaCare’s individual mandate as part of their tax-cut bill, a major step toward ending an unpopular part of the health-care law.

“Families ought to be able to make decisions about what they want to buy and what works for them — not the government,” Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) said, hailing the accomplishment.

The Senate tax bill must still be reconciled with House legislation that does not include the mandate’s repeal. But that is unlikely to be a major issue, given support in the GOP conference for repealing the mandate.

Repealing the mandate also saves $300 billion over ten years...

Senate GOP repeals ObamaCare mandate
DRUDGE REPORT 2018®

how stupid do you lowlife loons have to be to cheer for people being unable to buy health insurance.

now go pretend you're a christian.

scum[/QUOTE


they elect kiddie wankers to office, take away insurance for the needy, and SS from the elderly - scum is kinda light dont you think?

they elect kiddie wankers to office, take away insurance for the needy, and SS from the elderly - scum is kinda light dont you think?

Why don’t you guys pay for it, Charity is not worth a shit if it does not 100% voluntary… Dumbass

 

[Wyatt earp]

$700 tax on every person who doesn’t want to buy Obamacare.

Bye bye tax on the poor.

Dems are scum. Trump just lowered taxes on the poor.

Well, no, he didn't.

He just raised insurance costs on everyone else.

Wait a second Yahoo, so before Obama care people didn't buy insurance, Obama care came along and raised premiums and deductibles sky high , now you are telling us if we get rid of the mandate it will raise them more?

Not logical

Well, it is logical, you still have the 10 mandated essential health benefits.

No it's not logical..we didn't have a mandate, then when we did insurance premiums and deductibles went through the roof..


Why?

 

[Rustic]

how stupid do you lowlife loons have to be to cheer for people being unable to buy health insurance.

now go pretend you're a christian.

But that doesn't even do that! All this does is make it easier for people who aren't sick to not buy health insurance until they get sick.

Which means you'll have a lot of people putting off buying health insurance until they are either older or sicker... which means that- wait for it - the insurance companies will have to raise premiums on the rest of us.

I'm pretty sure almost no one here who wails about the Individual Mandate is actually going around without insurance.

I wonder what they are going to say when their premiums go up?

To hell with insurance companies, who gives a shit. The concept of paying into a pool is a fucked up one from the beginning. Only stupid people don’t realize that. Fact

 

[Deno]

Well, considering the GOP lied to us for eight years about Repeal & Replace, maybe their flock will find a way to celebrate this remarkable and absolutely game-changing achievement.

Oh, i'm not letting feckless GOP leadership completely off the hook. I've probably been Ryan, Boehner, and McConnell's harshest critic over the years. But i have to give credit where due. The Mandate is gone. It was Un-American. The ultimate Big Government abuse of power. So i have to thank the GOP and Trump. They delivered.

So now that there is no mandate will you be dropping your health insurance immediately?

Stupid Question...

Those of us that have it will keep it.

Those of us that don't won't be forced to buy it.

 

[jon_berzerk]

$700 tax on every person who doesn’t want to buy Obamacare.

Bye bye tax on the poor.

Dems are scum. Trump just lowered taxes on the poor.

Well, no, he didn't.

He just raised insurance costs on everyone else.

Wait a second Yahoo, so before Obama care people didn't buy insurance, Obama care came along and raised premiums and deductibles sky high , now you are telling us if we get rid of the mandate it will raise them more?

Not logical

Well, it is logical, you still have the 10 mandated essential health benefits.

No it's not logical..we didn't have a mandate, then when we did insurance premiums and deductibles went through the roof..


Why?

because the insurance could charge what ever they want

safe in the knowing that uncle sam was pickin up the tab

 

[Rustic]

$700 tax on every person who doesn’t want to buy Obamacare.

Bye bye tax on the poor.

Dems are scum. Trump just lowered taxes on the poor.

Well, no, he didn't.

He just raised insurance costs on everyone else.

To hell with insurance, the concept of it is fucked up.

 

[Deno]

Obamacare is so popular, they had to threaten people to purchase Obamacare else be punished by a government fine that's how popular it is.

Obamacare is so terrible the Republicans couldn't come up with something better to replace it.

Yes, GOP leadership could be much better. Room for lots of improvement. But i'll congratulate and thank them on this Yuge achievement.

Ok, so what tangible positive effect should we expect to see now that the mandate is gone? Besides "MOAR FREEDOM"

It's gone, deal with it. It was an Un-American Government overreach use of force. Good riddance.

LOL, I mean that's great and all. So what benefit will we all experience now as a result?

Freedom...

 

[debbiedowner]

$700 tax on every person who doesn’t want to buy Obamacare.

Bye bye tax on the poor.

Dems are scum. Trump just lowered taxes on the poor.

Well, no, he didn't.

He just raised insurance costs on everyone else.

Wait a second Yahoo, so before Obama care people didn't buy insurance, Obama care came along and raised premiums and deductibles sky high , now you are telling us if we get rid of the mandate it will raise them more?

Not logical

Well, it is logical, you still have the 10 mandated essential health benefits.

No it's not logical..we didn't have a mandate, then when we did insurance premiums and deductibles went through the roof..


Why?

You also didn't have the 10 mandated essential health benefits, they have not repealed them and other than a few months ago Congress talking about them we have heard nothing. Those are one driving force of the higher premium. You would have had higher premiums anyway but not as much as they are. As long as people demand co pays and low deductibles with or without any mandates premiums would go higher.

 

[Rustic]

$700 tax on every person who doesn’t want to buy Obamacare.

Bye bye tax on the poor.

Dems are scum. Trump just lowered taxes on the poor.

Well, no, he didn't.

He just raised insurance costs on everyone else.

Premiums will skyrocket particularly for pre existing conditions. I don’t see how this is good for the many Americans who finally have health insurance. And most Americans will see little benefit from tax cuts.

Shit happens, we are not a village... thankfully

 

[debbiedowner]

Obamacare is so popular, they had to threaten people to purchase Obamacare else be punished by a government fine that's how popular it is.

Obamacare is so terrible the Republicans couldn't come up with something better to replace it.

Sure we can...
It's called competition across state lines..

How's that working out? lol

LOL, you don't have a clue do you?

Yes, I do, it is you who doesn't have a clue.

 

[Rustic]

$700 tax on every person who doesn’t want to buy Obamacare.

Bye bye tax on the poor.

Dems are scum. Trump just lowered taxes on the poor.

Well, no, he didn't.

He just raised insurance costs on everyone else.

Wait a second Yahoo, so before Obama care people didn't buy insurance, Obama care came along and raised premiums and deductibles sky high , now you are telling us if we get rid of the mandate it will raise them more?

Not logical

Well, it is logical, you still have the 10 mandated essential health benefits.

No it's not logical..we didn't have a mandate, then when we did insurance premiums and deductibles went through the roof..


Why?

You also didn't have the 10 mandated essential health benefits, they have not repealed them and other than a few months ago Congress talking about them we have heard nothing. Those are one driving force of the higher premium. You would have had higher premiums anyway but not as much as they are. As long as people demand co pays and low deductibles with or without any mandates premiums would go higher.

You can’t force people into something they don’t want and expect good things from it. To think so is insanity

 

[Rustic]

Well, considering the GOP lied to us for eight years about Repeal & Replace, maybe their flock will find a way to celebrate this remarkable and absolutely game-changing achievement.

The Mandate is gone. It was Un-American. The ultimate Big Government abuse of power. So i have to thank the GOP and Trump. They delivered.

Okay, how will this help? Walk me through it.
.

I always err on the side of Freedom & Liberty. The Mandate was a Gestapo-like use of force by an out of control Big Government. Good riddance.

Do you feel your freedom and liberty are damaged in any way when you have to pay higher insurance premiums, co-pays, co-insurance and other fees for your care, to pay for those who can't?
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Good question. Don't expect a coherent, intelligent answer.

This is not a village, Nothing good comes from forcing people into shit like socialized medicine...