1 In 10 Female University Of Oregon Students Say They've Been Raped, Do You Buy It ?

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

I will never understand how a grown woman could say "hey If I'm drunk at a party and have sex with a drunk guy, that's rape"

Wouldn't the reverse ALSO be true? The guy couldn't have consented either if he's drunk. Do we lock them both up? I mean use some logic here people.

 

[WinterBorn]

Drinking at a college party until you can't forcefully resist isn't rape.

The women have to forcefully resist? So if they are unconscious it isn't rape?

 

[Rikurzhen]

I will never understand how a grown woman could say "hey If I'm drunk at a party and have sex with a drunk guy, that's rape"

Wouldn't the reverse ALSO be true? The guy couldn't have consented either if he's drunk. Do we lock them both up? I mean use some logic here people.

These are inner demons that women are wrestling with. Being a slut is nothing to be cheery about. Women get drunk to lower their own inhibitions. After they have sex with a guy and it turns into a romance, then their gamble paid off and they're happy. If they were part of a pump and dump event then they feel very badly about themselves. Here's where they turn to their natural response of not wanting to face consequences for their own decisions and now they claim that they were raped. I can't recall any guys ever blaming a woman for having sex with them while they were drunk. The beer goggles they wore sometimes led them into situations which they would never have agreed to while sober but every single guy I ever saw in that situation always blamed himself. "Look what I woke up with, man, I shouldn't drink so much."

 

[AVG-JOE]

"Don't touch me!" kills the mood expediently well for me no matter how long I've known a woman, and no matter what our 'relationship status' is.

I can't relate to the necessity of a line that apparently needs to be drawn here.

How can there possibly 'degrees of allowed resistance' in sex? ​

I can dig it... But I can NOT relate.​

 

[AVG-JOE]

Does that make me a big ol' girl?

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

"Don't touch me!" kills the mood expediently well for me no matter how long I've known a woman, and no matter what our 'relationship status' is.

I can't relate to the necessity of a line that apparently needs to be drawn here.

How can there possibly 'degrees of allowed resistance' in sex? ​

I can dig it... But I can NOT relate.

​

If I ever experience a situation where a woman rebuffs my advances, I have to admit I to would stop.

 

[AVG-JOE]

'Admit' is a little disturbing...

But I like the way you're thinking! ​

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

'Admit' is a little disturbing...

But I like the way you're thinking! ​

Poor choice of words there.

 

[WinterBorn]

"Don't touch me!" kills the mood expediently well for me no matter how long I've known a woman, and no matter what our 'relationship status' is.

I can't relate to the necessity of a line that apparently needs to be drawn here.

How can there possibly 'degrees of allowed resistance' in sex? ​

I can dig it... But I can NOT relate.​

There cannot be "degrees of allowed resistance". Either she wants to have sex or it is rape.

 

[WinterBorn]

"Don't touch me!" kills the mood expediently well for me no matter how long I've known a woman, and no matter what our 'relationship status' is.

I can't relate to the necessity of a line that apparently needs to be drawn here.

How can there possibly 'degrees of allowed resistance' in sex? ​

I can dig it... But I can NOT relate.

​

If I ever experience a situation where a woman rebuffs my advances, I have to admit I to would stop.

Any man worth a damn would stop.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

"Don't touch me!" kills the mood expediently well for me no matter how long I've known a woman, and no matter what our 'relationship status' is.

I can't relate to the necessity of a line that apparently needs to be drawn here.

How can there possibly 'degrees of allowed resistance' in sex? ​

I can dig it... But I can NOT relate.​

There cannot be "degrees of allowed resistance". Either she wants to have sex or it is rape.

Either things have changed in 20 years or people are just big pussies.

When I was in college and dating, it was not uncommon for a woman to protest all the while both parties knew that what she really wanted was for you to convince her.

Convince her doesn't mean force her so don't get on your high horse, but yes we used to call it "playing hard to get"

 

[AVG-JOE]

'Admit' is a little disturbing...

But I like the way you're thinking! ​

Poor choice of words there.

No worries, Brother! All in fun...

 

[AVG-JOE]

Any man worth a damn would stop.

And wouldn't need a third party to draw the line.

Yeah... I'll never relate to that one.

 

[Rikurzhen]

"Don't touch me!" kills the mood expediently well for me no matter how long I've known a woman, and no matter what our 'relationship status' is.

I can't relate to the necessity of a line that apparently needs to be drawn here.

How can there possibly 'degrees of allowed resistance' in sex? ​

I can dig it... But I can NOT relate.​

There cannot be "degrees of allowed resistance". Either she wants to have sex or it is rape.

Sure there can. Plenty of wives aren't in the mood, say so, their husbands gently persist, the wife gets in the mood and they both have a fantastic time and no, this isn't always wives doing their wifely duty, they actually had a very good time having sex. So this standard of yours isn't as rock solid as you imagine it.

I do though think your standard should be applied in a brutally honest fashion for singles. As the first utterance of "no" the man should stop, pick up his jacket and walk out. He is there for sex, she says no, he's being honest and leaving. Couples don't magically get to the point where sex becomes an issue, they're not dropped there from a cold start. There have been signals passing back and forth all evening, escalating the intimacy. At each step of the way the women knows that they've both moved one step closer. Why is she bothering if she knows that she won't have sex? None of this is meant to excuse men who rape a woman when she says no, it's meant to highlight that women often need a bit of coaxing as the couple approach the end zone. Woman are now saying that "No means NO, always and without ambiguity." OK, men should listen and also give a message back, without ambiguity - "I'm taking you at your word" and go cold. She led him on, he's unhappy with being lied to.

This is a nebulous zone - some women want a little more persuasion before they say yes, so they say "no" and mean "keep trying" while other women say "no" and actually mean "no." The ones who say "no" and mean "no" are not the problem, it's the ones who say "no" but really mean "persuade me some more" that are the problem
.
The way to reform the "no means try harder" women is to cut your loses and leave. Actually, don't even say a word. Leave her wondering. She'll figure it out. It's these women who are ambiguous who are causing the problem because they're undermining the message from the other straight shooter women and there's no way for a guy to know which kind of woman he's dealing with. When he guesses right, he has consensual sex, when he guesses wrong he's a rapist.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

'Admit' is a little disturbing...

But I like the way you're thinking! ​

Poor choice of words there.

No worries, Brother! All in fun...

All good from my side of things to. I knew you were just playing around

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Weird and disgusting that these same feminist liberals who are tyring to get men who have drunken sex with drunken women jailed for rape defend Islam.

Hey you stupid bitches, do you know that under Sharia if you make a complaint of rape and you don't have FOUR male witnesses who will testify that you fought the guy off , that YOU will be found guilty of being a slut and stoned to death?

Talk about a war on women....

 

[Star]

Drinking at a college party until you can't forcefully resist isn't rape.

Afraid it is...in any court in the land

If 10% of college girls in this country have been raped then we have a serious problem.

10% would put female University of Oregon students low on the list.
In the United States, about 1 in 6 women have been victimized and-----and most rapes and attempted rapes go unreported for many and various reasons and----------and if that stat doesn't shock you enough, consider - more than 70 sexual assaults take place in our military EVERY FRIGGIN' DAY.
Culture of Rape?

RAINN: Who are the Victims?

1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape).1

17.7 million American women have been victims of attempted or completed rape.1
.

 

[Ibentoken]

Drinking at a college party until you can't forcefully resist isn't rape.

Afraid it is...in any court in the land

If 10% of college girls in this country have been raped then we have a serious problem.

10% would put female University of Oregon students low on the list.
In the United States, about 1 in 6 women have been victimized and-----and most rapes and attempted rapes go unreported for many and various reasons and----------and if that stat doesn't shock you enough, consider - more than 70 sexual assaults take place in our military EVERY FRIGGIN' DAY.
Culture of Rape?

RAINN: Who are the Victims?

1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape).1

17.7 million American women have been victims of attempted or completed rape.1
.

Perhaps these women need to hang with a classier crowd.

 

[Star]

Drinking at a college party until you can't forcefully resist isn't rape.

Afraid it is...in any court in the land

If 10% of college girls in this country have been raped then we have a serious problem.

10% would put female University of Oregon students low on the list.
In the United States, about 1 in 6 women have been victimized and-----and most rapes and attempted rapes go unreported for many and various reasons and----------and if that stat doesn't shock you enough, consider - more than 70 sexual assaults take place in our military EVERY FRIGGIN' DAY.
Culture of Rape?

RAINN: Who are the Victims?

1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape).1

17.7 million American women have been victims of attempted or completed rape.1
.

Perhaps these women need to hang with a classier crowd.

Are you saying our military is not a classy crowd?
.

 

[blastoff]

Some of my fondest college memories revolve around drunken sex. And probably more so if I could remember them.