12 Year-Old Rape Victim Says Hillary Lied on Affidavit to Set Free Client She Knew Was Guilty

[Faun]

HELLO? The only reason this guy got off on the rape charges is because the Prosecutor LOST the key piece of evidence they had.... If Mickey Mouse was this guy's lawyer, he would have won.

EVERYTHING right wingers have written and put out on this....yes everything, has been lies and you've been duped.

Even the woman who was raped PRAISED Hillary for the first 20-30 years AFTER the trial...

UNTIL right wingers got a hold of her for political reasons and told her one lie after another....

seriously, can't you think, on your own....can't you at least take the time to research what the lying scum are telling you, so to discern the truth?

of course not.

you're brain dead, right?

The issue is whether Hillary lied on the affidavit or not, not whether the accused was acquitted or found guilty.

Your air of self satisfaction and assumed superiority makes you look like a fool.

If that's the issue, then prove it. Prove she wasn't informed the girl fantasized about older men.

 

[Avatar4321]

More right wing lies.

Lawyers don't testify . How can she file a false affidavit?

By the way, ya know this 53 year old lady is a convicted felon .

Yet Hillary did file an affidavit with the court claiming to have personal knowledge.

There is also an ethnics issue if this is true, committing fraud before a tribunal.

Hillary said she was informed the girl had fantasized about older men.

G'head.... prove she wasn't "informed" ....

It is up to Hillary to prove she was informed and by whom.

No it isn't. The burden of proof is on you in this case because you are claiming she lied about being informed. She isn't obligated to disprove your claim before you attempt to prove it.

I'm astounded that anyone claiming to be on the right is upset at her providing her client due process according to the law and constitution

 

[tinydancer]

HELLO? The only reason this guy got off on the rape charges is because the Prosecutor LOST the key piece of evidence they had.... If Mickey Mouse was this guy's lawyer, he would have won and gotten off...

EVERYTHING right wingers have written and put out on this....yes everything, has been lies and you've been duped.

Even the woman who was raped PRAISED Hillary for the first 20-30 years AFTER the trial...

UNTIL right wingers got a hold of her for political reasons and told her one lie after another....

seriously, can't you think, on your own....can't you at least take the time to research what the lying scum are telling you, so to discern the truth?

of course not.

you're brain dead, right?

This topic Care4all is not about him getting off. It's about her lying in the affidavit under oath. There is no evidence to support her claims.

 

[Alex.]

Remember the Judge denied the request.

Here's the affidavit.

"Here’s the most relevant portion of the affidavit (note that Shelton, who has come forward in the last few years as the victim in the case, has her name redacted in the documents):

3. I have made an Investigation of the facts and circumstances In this ease and verily believe that a psychiatric examination of the complainant, [redacted], is necessary and vital In this case.

4. I have been Informed that the complainant la emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and to engage in fantasizing. I have also been informed that she has In the past made false accusations about persona, claiming they had attacked her body. Also that she exhibits an unusual stubbornness and temper when she does not get her way.

5. I have also been told by an expert In child psychology that children In early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences and that adolescents with disorganized families, such as the complainant’s, are even more prone to such behavior."

AND here are the fabrications.

Informed by who that the child was emotionally unstable.

Informed by who that the little girl was seeking out older men.

Informed by who that she was fantasizing.

Where were the records of past false accusations.

Informed by who that she was stubborn and had a bad temper.

AND who the hell was that freaking expert.

So she blames the child for her own rape in this affidavit. With no evidence. CNN apparently investigated and could find no evidence, none, zip, nada for any of Clinton's claims in that affidavit.

"Nobody has been able to get to the bottom of where Clinton heard what she claimed under penalty of perjury."

Read Hillary Clinton’s Affidavit in Kathy Shelton Case and Judge For Yourself

And your evidence she wasn't actually "informed" of those things is...?

The proponent of the statement must prove that the information is true.

In court if challenged. That apparently didn't occur.

As of yet. Nevertheless the allegations are now in place and as we know The Clintons are not above lying and cheating and have been caught. It will be an interesting upcoming 4 years whether she gets in or not.

As of never.

Again, the only opportunity for what you seek came and went with that trial. It's over now and Hillary is under no obligation to humor the right because they smell fresh red meat.

No

 

[Faun]

More right wing lies.

Lawyers don't testify . How can she file a false affidavit?

By the way, ya know this 53 year old lady is a convicted felon .

Yet Hillary did file an affidavit with the court claiming to have personal knowledge.

There is also an ethnics issue if this is true, committing fraud before a tribunal.

Hillary said she was informed the girl had fantasized about older men.

G'head.... prove she wasn't "informed" ....

It is up to Hillary to prove she was informed and by whom.

No it isn't. The burden of proof is on you in this case because you are claiming she lied about being informed. She isn't obligated to disprove your claim before you attempt to prove it.

I'm astounded that anyone claiming to be on the right is upset at her providing her client due process according to the law and constitution

 

[tinydancer]

HELLO? The only reason this guy got off on the rape charges is because the Prosecutor LOST the key piece of evidence they had.... If Mickey Mouse was this guy's lawyer, he would have won.

EVERYTHING right wingers have written and put out on this....yes everything, has been lies and you've been duped.

Even the woman who was raped PRAISED Hillary for the first 20-30 years AFTER the trial...

UNTIL right wingers got a hold of her for political reasons and told her one lie after another....

seriously, can't you think, on your own....can't you at least take the time to research what the lying scum are telling you, so to discern the truth?

of course not.

you're brain dead, right?

The issue is whether Hillary lied on the affidavit or not, not whether the accused was acquitted or found guilty.

Your air of self satisfaction and assumed superiority makes you look like a fool.

If that's the issue, then prove it. Prove she wasn't informed the girl fantasized about older men.

No the onus is on Clinton to validate her claim. Not on any one else. Truly get a grip here. It's not like in the court of the media where the new game is throw out an accusation and it is up to the individual to prove the accusation false. That's the Dan Rather school of journalism we face daily.

No in a court of law and under oath it is Clinton who must substantiate her wild claims about the 12 year old.

 

[Alex.]

More right wing lies.

Lawyers don't testify . How can she file a false affidavit?

By the way, ya know this 53 year old lady is a convicted felon .

Yet Hillary did file an affidavit with the court claiming to have personal knowledge.

There is also an ethnics issue if this is true, committing fraud before a tribunal.

Hillary said she was informed the girl had fantasized about older men.

G'head.... prove she wasn't "informed" ....

It is up to Hillary to prove she was informed and by whom.

No it isn't. The burden of proof is on you in this case because you are claiming she lied about being informed. She isn't obligated to disprove your claim before you attempt to prove it.

I'm astounded that anyone claiming to be on the right is upset at her providing her client due process according to the law and constitution

The burden is on the affiant...., you should know that.

Affiant - The person who makes and signs an affidavit.

 

[Alex.]

HELLO? The only reason this guy got off on the rape charges is because the Prosecutor LOST the key piece of evidence they had.... If Mickey Mouse was this guy's lawyer, he would have won.

EVERYTHING right wingers have written and put out on this....yes everything, has been lies and you've been duped.

Even the woman who was raped PRAISED Hillary for the first 20-30 years AFTER the trial...

UNTIL right wingers got a hold of her for political reasons and told her one lie after another....

seriously, can't you think, on your own....can't you at least take the time to research what the lying scum are telling you, so to discern the truth?

of course not.

you're brain dead, right?

The issue is whether Hillary lied on the affidavit or not, not whether the accused was acquitted or found guilty.

Your air of self satisfaction and assumed superiority makes you look like a fool.

If that's the issue, then prove it. Prove she wasn't informed the girl fantasized about older men.

I am not the one making such claims about the 12 year old girl

 

[tinydancer]

More right wing lies.

Lawyers don't testify . How can she file a false affidavit?

By the way, ya know this 53 year old lady is a convicted felon .

Yet Hillary did file an affidavit with the court claiming to have personal knowledge.

There is also an ethnics issue if this is true, committing fraud before a tribunal.

Hillary said she was informed the girl had fantasized about older men.

G'head.... prove she wasn't "informed" ....

It is up to Hillary to prove she was informed and by whom.

No it isn't. The burden of proof is on you in this case because you are claiming she lied about being informed. She isn't obligated to disprove your claim before you attempt to prove it.

I'm astounded that anyone claiming to be on the right is upset at her providing her client due process according to the law and constitution

Good grief. What part of providing evidence about her wild claims that the child desired and was seeking out older men and fantasizing don't you get? That's up to Clinton in the affidavit and she did not.

It's not up to us to prove it. It was up to her. The defense lawyer. She was blaming the 12 year old girl for her own rape.

 

[Avatar4321]

More right wing lies.

Lawyers don't testify . How can she file a false affidavit?

By the way, ya know this 53 year old lady is a convicted felon .

Yet Hillary did file an affidavit with the court claiming to have personal knowledge.

There is also an ethnics issue if this is true, committing fraud before a tribunal.

Hillary said she was informed the girl had fantasized about older men.

G'head.... prove she wasn't "informed" ....

It is up to Hillary to prove she was informed and by whom.

No, it's actually not. Hillary is not on trial here. You accuse her of lying; either prove it or expose yourself as a liar.

The then 12 year old girl is making that claim not me.

In other words you can't support it so you're deflecting to someone who can't speak here.

You guys are fools. Of all the evil things she has done, all the bad policies she wants, you want to attack her for actually doing her job

 

[Alex.]

Yet Hillary did file an affidavit with the court claiming to have personal knowledge.

There is also an ethnics issue if this is true, committing fraud before a tribunal.

Hillary said she was informed the girl had fantasized about older men.

G'head.... prove she wasn't "informed" ....

It is up to Hillary to prove she was informed and by whom.

No, it's actually not. Hillary is not on trial here. You accuse her of lying; either prove it or expose yourself as a liar.

The then 12 year old girl is making that claim not me.

In other words you can't support it so you're deflecting to someone who can't speak here.

You guys are fools. Of all the evil things she has done, all the bad policies she wants, you want to attack her for actually doing her job

Not up to me to prove....


There are allegation from the then 12 year old regarding the veracity of Hillary's statements in her affidavit. All Hillary has to do is produce report from qualified experts or other reliable evidence that the statements she made in the affidavit are true.

 

[Faun]

HELLO? The only reason this guy got off on the rape charges is because the Prosecutor LOST the key piece of evidence they had.... If Mickey Mouse was this guy's lawyer, he would have won.

EVERYTHING right wingers have written and put out on this....yes everything, has been lies and you've been duped.

Even the woman who was raped PRAISED Hillary for the first 20-30 years AFTER the trial...

UNTIL right wingers got a hold of her for political reasons and told her one lie after another....

seriously, can't you think, on your own....can't you at least take the time to research what the lying scum are telling you, so to discern the truth?

of course not.

you're brain dead, right?

The issue is whether Hillary lied on the affidavit or not, not whether the accused was acquitted or found guilty.

Your air of self satisfaction and assumed superiority makes you look like a fool.

If that's the issue, then prove it. Prove she wasn't informed the girl fantasized about older men.

No the onus is on Clinton to validate her claim. Not on any one else. Truly get a grip here. It's not like in the court of the media where the new game is throw out an accusation and it is up to the individual to prove the accusation false. That's the Dan Rather school of journalism we face daily.

No in a court of law and under oath it is Clinton who must substantiate her wild claims about the 12 year old.

Nope, she doesn't. The time for that was in the trial. If the prosecution thought Hillary was lying, they could have challenged the affidavit. I've seen no evidence that occurred.

 

[Faun]

More right wing lies.

Lawyers don't testify . How can she file a false affidavit?

By the way, ya know this 53 year old lady is a convicted felon .

Yet Hillary did file an affidavit with the court claiming to have personal knowledge.

There is also an ethnics issue if this is true, committing fraud before a tribunal.

Hillary said she was informed the girl had fantasized about older men.

G'head.... prove she wasn't "informed" ....

It is up to Hillary to prove she was informed and by whom.

No it isn't. The burden of proof is on you in this case because you are claiming she lied about being informed. She isn't obligated to disprove your claim before you attempt to prove it.

I'm astounded that anyone claiming to be on the right is upset at her providing her client due process according to the law and constitution

The burden is on the affiant...., you should know that.

Affiant - The person who makes and signs an affidavit.

Any such burden ended with the trial.

 

[Faun]

Hillary said she was informed the girl had fantasized about older men.

G'head.... prove she wasn't "informed" ....

It is up to Hillary to prove she was informed and by whom.

No, it's actually not. Hillary is not on trial here. You accuse her of lying; either prove it or expose yourself as a liar.

The then 12 year old girl is making that claim not me.

In other words you can't support it so you're deflecting to someone who can't speak here.

You guys are fools. Of all the evil things she has done, all the bad policies she wants, you want to attack her for actually doing her job

Not up to me to prove....


There are allegation from the then 12 year old regarding the veracity of Hillary's statements in her affidavit. All Hillary has to do is produce report from qualified experts or other reliable evidence that the statements she made in the affidavit are true.

Nope, she doesn't have to do that.

 

[Alex.]

HELLO? The only reason this guy got off on the rape charges is because the Prosecutor LOST the key piece of evidence they had.... If Mickey Mouse was this guy's lawyer, he would have won.

EVERYTHING right wingers have written and put out on this....yes everything, has been lies and you've been duped.

Even the woman who was raped PRAISED Hillary for the first 20-30 years AFTER the trial...

UNTIL right wingers got a hold of her for political reasons and told her one lie after another....

seriously, can't you think, on your own....can't you at least take the time to research what the lying scum are telling you, so to discern the truth?

of course not.

you're brain dead, right?

The issue is whether Hillary lied on the affidavit or not, not whether the accused was acquitted or found guilty.

Your air of self satisfaction and assumed superiority makes you look like a fool.

If that's the issue, then prove it. Prove she wasn't informed the girl fantasized about older men.

No the onus is on Clinton to validate her claim. Not on any one else. Truly get a grip here. It's not like in the court of the media where the new game is throw out an accusation and it is up to the individual to prove the accusation false. That's the Dan Rather school of journalism we face daily.

No in a court of law and under oath it is Clinton who must substantiate her wild claims about the 12 year old.

Nope, she doesn't. The time for that was in the trial. If the prosecution thought Hillary was lying, they could have challenged the affidavit. I've seen no evidence that occurred.

No

 

[Alex.]

It is up to Hillary to prove she was informed and by whom.

No, it's actually not. Hillary is not on trial here. You accuse her of lying; either prove it or expose yourself as a liar.

The then 12 year old girl is making that claim not me.

In other words you can't support it so you're deflecting to someone who can't speak here.

You guys are fools. Of all the evil things she has done, all the bad policies she wants, you want to attack her for actually doing her job

Not up to me to prove....


There are allegation from the then 12 year old regarding the veracity of Hillary's statements in her affidavit. All Hillary has to do is produce report from qualified experts or other reliable evidence that the statements she made in the affidavit are true.

Nope, she doesn't have to do that.

yea she does.

 

[tinydancer]

Yet Hillary did file an affidavit with the court claiming to have personal knowledge.

There is also an ethnics issue if this is true, committing fraud before a tribunal.

Hillary said she was informed the girl had fantasized about older men.

G'head.... prove she wasn't "informed" ....

It is up to Hillary to prove she was informed and by whom.

No, it's actually not. Hillary is not on trial here. You accuse her of lying; either prove it or expose yourself as a liar.

The then 12 year old girl is making that claim not me.

In other words you can't support it so you're deflecting to someone who can't speak here.

You guys are fools. Of all the evil things she has done, all the bad policies she wants, you want to attack her for actually doing her job

Falsifying an affidavit to the court is not doing her job. Get a grip. No evidence to support her outlandish claims about the child.

"In a May 2016 report on the 1975 rape case, CNN said no evidence has ever emerged to support the claims made in that affidavit."

The Truth About Clinton’s Handling of Kathy Shelton Rape Case

I know you are a Never Trumper and that's all fine and dandy, but there is no defense for the reprehensible charges against the little girl and blaming her for her own rape.

"When it comes to the claims made in the affidavit, however, things are a little different.

In the past, Clinton has defended the assertions she made in the affidavit by saying that she was simply repeating what defense experts and investigators told her. Yet, according to the victim and other media reports, there seems to little to no evidence to support those claims.

Filing a false affidavit would be way outside the scope of a lawyers ethical obligation to vigorously defend their client."

 

[Faun]

HELLO? The only reason this guy got off on the rape charges is because the Prosecutor LOST the key piece of evidence they had.... If Mickey Mouse was this guy's lawyer, he would have won.

EVERYTHING right wingers have written and put out on this....yes everything, has been lies and you've been duped.

Even the woman who was raped PRAISED Hillary for the first 20-30 years AFTER the trial...

UNTIL right wingers got a hold of her for political reasons and told her one lie after another....

seriously, can't you think, on your own....can't you at least take the time to research what the lying scum are telling you, so to discern the truth?

of course not.

you're brain dead, right?

The issue is whether Hillary lied on the affidavit or not, not whether the accused was acquitted or found guilty.

Your air of self satisfaction and assumed superiority makes you look like a fool.

If that's the issue, then prove it. Prove she wasn't informed the girl fantasized about older men.

No the onus is on Clinton to validate her claim. Not on any one else. Truly get a grip here. It's not like in the court of the media where the new game is throw out an accusation and it is up to the individual to prove the accusation false. That's the Dan Rather school of journalism we face daily.

No in a court of law and under oath it is Clinton who must substantiate her wild claims about the 12 year old.

Nope, she doesn't. The time for that was in the trial. If the prosecution thought Hillary was lying, they could have challenged the affidavit. I've seen no evidence that occurred.

No

Yes.

 

[Faun]

No, it's actually not. Hillary is not on trial here. You accuse her of lying; either prove it or expose yourself as a liar.

The then 12 year old girl is making that claim not me.

In other words you can't support it so you're deflecting to someone who can't speak here.

You guys are fools. Of all the evil things she has done, all the bad policies she wants, you want to attack her for actually doing her job

Not up to me to prove....


There are allegation from the then 12 year old regarding the veracity of Hillary's statements in her affidavit. All Hillary has to do is produce report from qualified experts or other reliable evidence that the statements she made in the affidavit are true.

Nope, she doesn't have to do that.

yea she does.

According to whom?

 

[tyroneweaver]

More right wing lies.

Lawyers don't testify . How can she file a false affidavit?

By the way, ya know this 53 year old lady is a convicted felon .

If Hillary goes on to win. You won't see a dem convicted of anything. Bank it.