2016 Arctic sea ice thread

[RollingThunder]

Here is a very good map of sea level change in the US and Europe.

Sea Level Trends - NOAA Tides and Currents

What's funny is NOAA says nothing about rising oceans as a reason sea levels change.
Must have been an oversight.

What is really funny is that you somehow imagine that that bit of utterly clueless insanity means anything whatsoever, WitheredMan.

The "oceans" and the "seas" are the same thing. "Rising oceans" = "sea level change", you poor imbecile.

 

[LaDexter]

If the sea level is really rising, why can't the warmers identify an island that is sinking because of something other than tectonics?

A: there is no sea level rise. The sinking because of tectonics islands are the best fraud the warmers could come up with, given Antarctic ice growth (meaning no net ice melt on Earth with 90% of ice growing).

 

[Old Rocks]

LaDumkopf, you stupid ass, the sea level is rising everywhere that tectonics are not raising the land.

Sea Level Rise Hits Home at NASA : Feature Articles


Tide gauges have been used to measure sea level for more than 130 years. Satellite measurements now complement the historical record. (NASA Earth Observatory image by Joshua Stevens, based on data from the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization and NOAA)

 

[Crick]

What's funny is NOAA says nothing about rising oceans as a reason sea levels change.
Must have been an oversight.

I have to join Old Rocks here. What in god's green acres is that supposed to mean?

 

[LaDexter]

Old Rocks can do nothing beyond PARROTING.

The warmers claim sea level rise. The "evidence" of that is FUDGE and islands right on the lip of the Pacific Ring of Fire.

The IDIOCY OF THE FRAUD at work again...

 

[jc456]

LaDumkopf, you stupid ass, the sea level is rising everywhere that tectonics are not raising the land.

Sea Level Rise Hits Home at NASA : Feature Articles


Tide gauges have been used to measure sea level for more than 130 years. Satellite measurements now complement the historical record. (NASA Earth Observatory image by Joshua Stevens, based on data from the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization and NOAA)

so again, eight inches. that's like snot to the overall 75% of sea water that is the earth. You claim islands are going under water with an eight inch rise. I'll give you the eight inch rise, ok? I won't even argue it. For you to call that accelerating is hilarious. To call it dangerous is outrageous. your facts don't support your claim and therefore outs you as a liar. Holy crap, your own post proves you lie. Wow.

 

[Olde Europe]

"Rising oceans" = "sea level change", you poor imbecile.

That's incorrect as "seal level change" includes cyclical (reversible) changes as well as the non-cyclical, long-term "rising oceans" due to climate change.

 

[LaDexter]

so again, eight inches.

That 8 inches is from one of the "sinking" islands on the lip of the Ring. Don't accept it. It is fraudulent cherry picking disguised as "science."

 

[Old Rocks]

For New York City, the rise is over a foot. And made a significant difference in terms of damage from the storm surge that accompanied Sandy.

 

[LaDexter]

Plymouth Rock is right where the Pilgrims found it = NO sea level rise.

Find us one news article about a "sinking island" that is not sinking because of plate tectonics (ie not the Marshall Islands or the Solomon Islands or the islands just north of New Guinea).

You can't, because you are parrot of fudge, fraud, and cherry picking.

 

[jc456]

For New York City, the rise is over a foot. And made a significant difference in terms of damage from the storm surge that accompanied Sandy.

evidence

 

[Old Rocks]

What is Expected for New York
6 NYCRR Part 490, Projected Sea-level Rise Rulemaking - Available for public comment through December 28, 2015.

Rising seas and increased storm surges
put New York's coastlines at risk.
Fast Facts - Sea-level Rise in New York

• New York has an estimated 1,850 miles of tidal shoreline exposed to the action of tides, wind and waves - much of it developed and densely populated.
• New York has experienced at least a foot of sea-level rise since 1900, mostly due to expansion of warming ocean water. Certain conditions along New York's coast make sea-level rise here somewhat higher than the global average.
• New York's coastal marine counties already see more intense storm surges and floods. Superstorm Sandy highlighted the risks and vulnerabilities of our tidal shorelines, which are home to more than half of New Yorkers.
• By 2100, scientists project sea levels 18 to 50 inches higher than today along New York's coastlines and estuaries, though a rise as high as 75 inches could occur.
• Sea-level rise is locked in for centuries, or even millennia, by heat-trapping greenhouse gases already in the atmosphere. Continuing or increasing emissions will speed up the rise to higher levels.
• Energy, land use and infrastructure decisions made now will determine how vulnerable our children and grandchildren will be to rising sea-levels.

Sea Level Rise - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation

Sure, LaDumkopf, sure.

 

[mamooth]

That 8 inches is from one of the "sinking" islands on the lip of the Ring. Don't accept it. It is fraudulent cherry picking disguised as "science."

Why do you keep telling that lie?

No, the island is not on the ring of fire.

No, that island is not sinking at all.

Yes, the same sea level rise is happening all across the globe.

You're a fraud, LaDexter, and what's worse, you suck at being a fraud. We've been lied to by professionals, so being lied to by an amateur as inept as you is kind of insulting. We expect better lies from denier liars.

And dumbass? Plymouth Rock has been physically moved, by people, many times. Given that it's not in its original location, its current location means jack.

 

[ScienceRocks]

As of 7-6 it remains a close tie with 2016 slightly ahead.

 

[westwall]

For New York City, the rise is over a foot. And made a significant difference in terms of damage from the storm surge that accompanied Sandy.

Really? There is no evidence of that. None at all. Please provide photographic evidence of the rise you have claimed. Same tide state in the before and after pictures please.

 

[Old Rocks]

For New York City, the rise is over a foot. And made a significant difference in terms of damage from the storm surge that accompanied Sandy.

Really? There is no evidence of that. None at all. Please provide photographic evidence of the rise you have claimed. Same tide state in the before and after pictures please.

So you like to play stupid now, Mr. Westwall? Moving your peer level to jc and LaDexter? Post # 612.

 

[westwall]

For New York City, the rise is over a foot. And made a significant difference in terms of damage from the storm surge that accompanied Sandy.

Really? There is no evidence of that. None at all. Please provide photographic evidence of the rise you have claimed. Same tide state in the before and after pictures please.

So you like to play stupid now, Mr. Westwall? Moving your peer level to jc and LaDexter? Post # 612.

No. I am doing what any other scientist would do. Ask you to back up your claims with, you know ....EVIDENCE.

 

[Wyatt earp]

What is Expected for New York
6 NYCRR Part 490, Projected Sea-level Rise Rulemaking - Available for public comment through December 28, 2015.

Rising seas and increased storm surges
put New York's coastlines at risk.
Fast Facts - Sea-level Rise in New York

• New York has an estimated 1,850 miles of tidal shoreline exposed to the action of tides, wind and waves - much of it developed and densely populated.
• New York has experienced at least a foot of sea-level rise since 1900, mostly due to expansion of warming ocean water. Certain conditions along New York's coast make sea-level rise here somewhat higher than the global average.
• New York's coastal marine counties already see more intense storm surges and floods. Superstorm Sandy highlighted the risks and vulnerabilities of our tidal shorelines, which are home to more than half of New Yorkers.
• By 2100, scientists project sea levels 18 to 50 inches higher than today along New York's coastlines and estuaries, though a rise as high as 75 inches could occur.
• Sea-level rise is locked in for centuries, or even millennia, by heat-trapping greenhouse gases already in the atmosphere. Continuing or increasing emissions will speed up the rise to higher levels.
• Energy, land use and infrastructure decisions made now will determine how vulnerable our children and grandchildren will be to rising sea-levels.

Sea Level Rise - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation

Sure, LaDumkopf, sure.

Lmao you live in a cave in idaho

 

[Old Rocks]

What is Expected for New York
6 NYCRR Part 490, Projected Sea-level Rise Rulemaking - Available for public comment through December 28, 2015.

Rising seas and increased storm surges
put New York's coastlines at risk.
Fast Facts - Sea-level Rise in New York

• New York has an estimated 1,850 miles of tidal shoreline exposed to the action of tides, wind and waves - much of it developed and densely populated.
• New York has experienced at least a foot of sea-level rise since 1900, mostly due to expansion of warming ocean water. Certain conditions along New York's coast make sea-level rise here somewhat higher than the global average.
• New York's coastal marine counties already see more intense storm surges and floods. Superstorm Sandy highlighted the risks and vulnerabilities of our tidal shorelines, which are home to more than half of New Yorkers.
• By 2100, scientists project sea levels 18 to 50 inches higher than today along New York's coastlines and estuaries, though a rise as high as 75 inches could occur.
• Sea-level rise is locked in for centuries, or even millennia, by heat-trapping greenhouse gases already in the atmosphere. Continuing or increasing emissions will speed up the rise to higher levels.
• Energy, land use and infrastructure decisions made now will determine how vulnerable our children and grandchildren will be to rising sea-levels.

Sea Level Rise - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation

Sure, LaDumkopf, sure.

Lmao you live in a cave in idaho

By God, the intellect behind that reply is astounding.

 

[Olde Europe]

No. I am doing what any other scientist would do. Ask you to back up your claims with, you know ....EVIDENCE.

So, you actually are so bereft of shame, you use the word "scientist" in your mindless blab?

And you want "before and after pictures" as "evidence", when seal-level rise is usually measured in thousands upon thousands in data points spanning 30 years, if not longer?

Frankly, your chutzpa, entirely based on ignorance, is amazing. Other than that, Old Rocks has you pegged, perfectly:

Moving your peer level to jc and LaDexter? Post # 612.

He forgot to make explicit you're a fraud, but that follows effortlessly.