The left is making fun of The Clown Car meme, but they risk pulling the Democrat Party too far to the left.

Republicans don't have to win moderates. They just have to be competitive. Democrats have zero chance if they lose moderates. The more Bernie Sanders is on the stage, the lower the probability Hillary wins.


Not a chance. In fact, his presence pretty much guarantees that the opposite will happen.

Why?

That's like saying the extremists on the Right are good for the GOP because it makes the eventual candidate look better.

The left is searching for a hero. The more Sanders is in the limelight, the greater the push to the left, and the more skittish moderates become.

TPP is a good example. Hillary supported that as SoS. Now she's silent because the base opposes it, and the party moves left.

Because with Sanders in the picture it's impossible to label Hillary "far left"

Also on a lot of issues the country really has moved left. Not saying this just as a partisan, but a lot of issues that were once rejected are now a lot more the norm.

I think the country is moving left, but not Bernie Sanders left.

The leftists here seem not to see about themselves what they see on the right.
 
The left is making fun of The Clown Car meme, but they risk pulling the Democrat Party too far to the left.

Republicans don't have to win moderates. They just have to be competitive. Democrats have zero chance if they lose moderates. The more Bernie Sanders is on the stage, the lower the probability Hillary wins.


Not a chance. In fact, his presence pretty much guarantees that the opposite will happen.

Why?

That's like saying the extremists on the Right are good for the GOP because it makes the eventual candidate look better.

The left is searching for a hero. The more Sanders is in the limelight, the greater the push to the left, and the more skittish moderates become.

TPP is a good example. Hillary supported that as SoS. Now she's silent because the base opposes it, and the party moves left.

Because with Sanders in the picture it's impossible to label Hillary "far left"

Also on a lot of issues the country really has moved left. Not saying this just as a partisan, but a lot of issues that were once rejected are now a lot more the norm.

I think the country is moving left, but not Bernie Sanders left.

The leftists here seem not to see about themselves what they see on the right.


I think you make an interesting point, but it only makes sense if you define exactly what specific issues are "Left" and what specific issues are "Bernie-Left".

I pass the microphone back to you, now...
 
the dimocrap scum party is all but dead.

But dimocraps themselves are too fucking stupid to see it.

The best you scumbags can come up with is a warmed over, ugly, wrinkled old scrunt that would make a better face for an FDS ad than as a Presidential Candidate? Have you MORONS any idea how bad she is going to get KILLED? I mean, obliterated by a young, handsome. likable Republican?

the dimocrap scum party is imploding before our very eyes, people. It is no accident that they are losing in the States badly..... And I mean BADLY. Not just a little bit, I mean they are getting KILLED in State elections year after year.

It's over dimocrap scum. You had your run. Now it's time to face reality. The world over, your ideology is falling apart. Everywhere.

Welcome to the real world dimocrap scum. Here's your ride out of town

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dimocrap scum party.

But dimocraps themselves are too fucking stupid to see it.

The best you scumbags can come up with is a warmed over, ugly, wrinkled old scrunt that would make a better face for an FDS ad that as a Presidential Candidate?

the dimocrap scum party is imploding before our very eyes, people. It is no accident that they are losing in the States badly..... And I mean BADLY. Not just a little bit, I mean they are getting KILLED in State elections year after year.

It's over dimocrap scum. You had your run. Now it's time to face reality. The world over, your ideology is falling apart. Everywhere.

Welcome to the real world dimocrap scum. Here's your ride out of town

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You are not screaming loud enough, Obiwan-Edgetho.
 
The left is making fun of The Clown Car meme, but they risk pulling the Democrat Party too far to the left.

Republicans don't have to win moderates. They just have to be competitive. Democrats have zero chance if they lose moderates. The more Bernie Sanders is on the stage, the lower the probability Hillary wins.


Not a chance. In fact, his presence pretty much guarantees that the opposite will happen.

Why?

That's like saying the extremists on the Right are good for the GOP because it makes the eventual candidate look better.

The left is searching for a hero. The more Sanders is in the limelight, the greater the push to the left, and the more skittish moderates become.

TPP is a good example. Hillary supported that as SoS. Now she's silent because the base opposes it, and the party moves left.

Because with Sanders in the picture it's impossible to label Hillary "far left"

Also on a lot of issues the country really has moved left. Not saying this just as a partisan, but a lot of issues that were once rejected are now a lot more the norm.

I think the country is moving left, but not Bernie Sanders left.

The leftists here seem not to see about themselves what they see on the right.


I think you make an interesting point, but it only makes sense if you define exactly what specific issues are "Left" and what specific issues are "Bernie-Left".

I pass the microphone back to you, now...

If Bernie Sanders was as far to the right as he is to the left, not only would you guys have clown avatars for him, he'd have his own clown bus.
 
My predictions-

Hillary is the Dem Nominee, Bush is the GOP Nominee. Bush, however, will be pulled very far to the right by the GOP Clown Car.

Hillary easily beats Jeb by not only taking all the states Obama took in 2012, but MO, AR, LA, NC and AZ as well. Jeb even loses Florida.

The Democrats retake the Senate by picking up IL, WI, PA, NH, NC and in a big surprise, FL. At least one other safe GOP state comes into play because the Teabaggers nominate some fool who thinks the word Rape needs a qualifying adjective in front of it.


So, you are predicting 383 EV, not far from where I am predicting. 332 + 51 = 383
And you are predicting that she will recapture three of the "Clinton 6" from 1992 and 1996, very similar to what I have been predicting.

Toro


What you predicted is in my sig line. It will stay until 11/16.
 
I love the fact the only "predictors" are nervous lefties. All of whom are claiming massive Hildabeast victories (much bigger than Obama in 2012). Fucking morons.....:lol:

Nobody gives a shit what any of you dumbasses predicts 1 1/2 years out. What is known is right now is that the Hildabeast is not trusted or liked by a large majority of Americans (57%). She is losing or within the margin against GOP candidates in many battleground states.

None of those facts are good.


But hey...speculate all you want....'cos this is about you girls feeling better. :lol:
 
My predictions-

Hillary is the Dem Nominee, Bush is the GOP Nominee. Bush, however, will be pulled very far to the right by the GOP Clown Car.

Hillary easily beats Jeb by not only taking all the states Obama took in 2012, but MO, AR, LA, NC and AZ as well. Jeb even loses Florida.

The Democrats retake the Senate by picking up IL, WI, PA, NH, NC and in a big surprise, FL. At least one other safe GOP state comes into play because the Teabaggers nominate some fool who thinks the word Rape needs a qualifying adjective in front of it.

Now that's what you called comedic gold right there. :lol:
 
The Republican establishment is thrashing around frantically trying to rehabilitate Bush...or Cristy....I think the best they can hope for is Walker....for some reason they dont seem to like Perry which is a little baffling. So my guess it ends up Walker.

Perhaps the Democratic establishment is hedging with O'Malley but I tend to think its just their turn to lose....so they dont care as much.
 
The left is making fun of The Clown Car meme, but they risk pulling the Democrat Party too far to the left.

Republicans don't have to win moderates. They just have to be competitive. Democrats have zero chance if they lose moderates. The more Bernie Sanders is on the stage, the lower the probability Hillary wins.

I think Bernie makes Hillary look more centrist. I also think a lot of what Bernie says about Wall Street resonates with a lot of Americans who've looked at their paychecks and know the 1% are screwing them.

The fact that they killed TPA is telling.
 
Not a chance. In fact, his presence pretty much guarantees that the opposite will happen.

Why?

That's like saying the extremists on the Right are good for the GOP because it makes the eventual candidate look better.

The left is searching for a hero. The more Sanders is in the limelight, the greater the push to the left, and the more skittish moderates become.

TPP is a good example. Hillary supported that as SoS. Now she's silent because the base opposes it, and the party moves left.

Because with Sanders in the picture it's impossible to label Hillary "far left"

Also on a lot of issues the country really has moved left. Not saying this just as a partisan, but a lot of issues that were once rejected are now a lot more the norm.

I think the country is moving left, but not Bernie Sanders left.

The leftists here seem not to see about themselves what they see on the right.


I think you make an interesting point, but it only makes sense if you define exactly what specific issues are "Left" and what specific issues are "Bernie-Left".

I pass the microphone back to you, now...

If Bernie Sanders was as far to the right as he is to the left, not only would you guys have clown avatars for him, he'd have his own clown bus.

That sounds cool. But you have yet to support the claim. Other than the fact that he calls himself a socialist.....what about Bernie is far left?
 
If Bernie Sanders was as far to the right as he is to the left, not only would you guys have clown avatars for him, he'd have his own clown bus.

Wow, Toro, you really hate Bernie Sanders, don't you?

Just making an observation about the cognitive bias of those on the left such as yourself.

Bernie Sanders does NOT make the Democrat Party look more centrist. Pulling the Democrats to the left makes it more difficult to win regardless of who is the nominee.
 
Republicans will nominate RINO Jeb, just as Democrats want.

Americans who love America and will not aid in its' destruction will simply sit it out and things will continue to slide.

Depending on who The Democrat Party chooses once they've dumped Hillary that could mean the rot progresses a little less swiftly than it has over the last 7 or so years.
 
I think the GOP nominee will be Rubio or Walker. The Hildabeast will be the Dim nominee mainly because she's a pathological liar and Dims like that....plus they don't really have anyone else.
 
Republicans will nominate RINO Jeb, just as Democrats want.

Americans who love America and will not aid in its' destruction will simply sit it out and things will continue to slide.

Depending on who The Democrat Party chooses once they've dumped Hillary that could mean the rot progresses a little less swiftly than it has over the last 7 or so years.
Why would the democrats want another Bush? Nah the democrats that switch to republican for the republican primaries just to screw over the pubs will be voting for Christie.
 
Republicans will nominate RINO Jeb, just as Democrats want.

Americans who love America and will not aid in its' destruction will simply sit it out and things will continue to slide.

Depending on who The Democrat Party chooses once they've dumped Hillary that could mean the rot progresses a little less swiftly than it has over the last 7 or so years.
Why would the democrats want another Bush? Nah the democrats that switch to republican for the republican primaries just to screw over the pubs will be voting for Christie.
Nah, we'll vote for Cruz since he's too rightwing for the middle and lots of rightwingers won't vote for him because he was born in Canada and doesn't meet their standard of a natural born citizen.
 
Republicans will nominate RINO Jeb, just as Democrats want.

Americans who love America and will not aid in its' destruction will simply sit it out and things will continue to slide.

Depending on who The Democrat Party chooses once they've dumped Hillary that could mean the rot progresses a little less swiftly than it has over the last 7 or so years.
Why would the democrats want another Bush? Nah the democrats that switch to republican for the republican primaries just to screw over the pubs will be voting for Christie.
Nah, we'll vote for Cruz since he's too rightwing for the middle and lots of rightwingers won't vote for him because he was born in Canada and doesn't meet their standard of a natural born citizen.
Nonsense. The libtards will vote for the guy most like them on the republican ticket and that is not Cruz.
 
Republicans will nominate RINO Jeb, just as Democrats want.

Americans who love America and will not aid in its' destruction will simply sit it out and things will continue to slide.

Depending on who The Democrat Party chooses once they've dumped Hillary that could mean the rot progresses a little less swiftly than it has over the last 7 or so years.
Why would the democrats want another Bush? Nah the democrats that switch to republican for the republican primaries just to screw over the pubs will be voting for Christie.
Nah, we'll vote for Cruz since he's too rightwing for the middle and lots of rightwingers won't vote for him because he was born in Canada and doesn't meet their standard of a natural born citizen.
Nonsense. The libtards will vote for the guy most like them on the republican ticket and that is not Cruz.
Nah, they'll do what the right did in 2008 ... try to throw the Republican camp into turmoil. That's where Cruz comes in.
 

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