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I'm posting this as a companion piece to this thread:
Zone1 - What Is Meant When It Is Said That a Person Has a White Supremacist Mindset (or is a Racist) - Part II With Required Sourcing & Citations

So many people, starting with just this one message board, are in denial. Not just about Black Americans and the challenges we still face as we navigate life as a part of a minority that was for several centuries legislatively relegated to 2nd class citizenship status. And yes while the laws regarding legal discrimination and segregation were eventually changed, as we can see, on a myriad of topics, just like we know that seems like half of the country is not happy with many of the major decisions that we don't get any say in, a segment of the white American majority in our country didn't then and still don't care what our law say.

They will tell you that it's their right to be racist, that racism is "not against the law" and they see nothing wrong with their beliefs, behaviors or comments. Those are not the people who are problematic with the exception of the violent fringes, because they show us, every single day, exactly who and what they are. It's the one who steadfastly insist that they are not racists while spewing a barrage of vitriol directed against Black in general, Black "culture" (whatever that is), as well as specific Black members of this message board that are the problem because they have others convinced they are not racists as well. And they are judges, and prosecutors, and attorneys, and investigators and legislators, employers and others who are in positions of authority who can enforce their biases and prejudices against others without anyone ever calling them on their racially biased viewpoints, except rarely.
  • Protests in recent years underscored the ways racism and racial inequality persist in American life.
  • Data and research show how Black Americans experience different treatment from their white counterparts.
  • These charts show the extent of racial disparities in America, in areas like employment and wealth.
Insider Today
More than two years after nationwide protests sparked by the death of George Floyd, conversations about the way Black Americans are policed — as well as the other inequities they face in modern life — have persisted in America.​
Extensive academic research and data collected by the federal government and researchers have documented numerous ways that Black Americans experience life in the United States differently from their white counterparts, whether it's underrepresentation in college attainment rates or overrepresentation in COVID-19 hospitalizations.​
It's called "systemic" racism because it's ingrained in nearly every way people move through society in the policies and practices at institutions like banks, schools, companies, government agencies, and law enforcement.​
The resulting data show that these disparities exist along nearly every facet of American life, including employment, wealth, education, home ownership, healthcare, and incarceration.​

The employment-population ratio measures the share of a demographic group that has a job, and it's been lower for Black people for years.​

The employment-population ratio for Black Americans has historically tended to fall quite a bit lower than for whites or Latinos.​
Since the coronavirus pandemic and subsequent lockdowns across the country triggered a recession starting in March of 2020, employment for all racial groups fell dramatically, though they have rebounded to pre-pandemic levels in 2022.​

The unemployment rate also spiked for all racial groups in the US during the coronavirus pandemic, and remains relatively higher for Black Americans.​

Just as Black employment has historically been lower than for whites, the unemployment rate among Black Americans has been higher. This remains the case despite low unemployment rates across the board.​

Black Americans are underrepresented in high-paying jobs.​

The Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that 58% of employed Asians worked in management, professional, and related occupations — the highest-paying major occupational category — compared with 43% of employed whites, 35% of employed Blacks, and 26% of employed Hispanics.​
This, in part, can be explained by racist hiring practices that kept Blacks out of business for decades under Jim Crow. It can also be explained by more subtle forms of prejudice today.​
One Harvard University study found that when Blacks and Asians "whitened" their resumes — for example, used "American" or "white"-sounding names — they got more callbacks for corporate interviews. 25% of Black candidates received callbacks from their whitened resumes, while only 10% got calls when they left ethnic details on their resume.​
[continued at the link above]​
 
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I'm posting this as a companion piece to this thread:

So many people, starting with just this one message board, are in denial. Not just about Black Americans and the challenges we still face as we navigate life as a part of a minority that was for several centuries legislatively relegated to 2nd class citizenship status. And yes while the laws regarding legal discrimination and segregation were eventually changed, as we can see, on a myriad of topics, just like we know that seems like half of the country is not happy with many of the major decisions that we don't get any say in, a segment of the white American majority in our country didn't then and still don't care what our law say.

They will tell you that it's their right to be racist, that racism is "not against the law" and they see nothing wrong with their beliefs, behaviors or comments. Those are not the people who are problematic with the exception of the violent fringes, because they show us, every single day, exactly who and what they are. It's the one who steadfastly insist that they are not racists while spewing a barrage of vitriol directed against Black in general, Black "culture" (whatever that is), as well as specific Black members of this message board that are the problem because they have others convinced they are not racists as well. And they are judges, and prosecutors, and attorneys, and investigators and legislators, employers and others who are in positions of authority who can enforce their biases and prejudices against others without anyone ever calling them on their racially biased viewpoints, except rarely.
  • Protests in recent years underscored the ways racism and racial inequality persist in American life.
  • Data and research show how Black Americans experience different treatment from their white counterparts.
  • These charts show the extent of racial disparities in America, in areas like employment and wealth.
Insider Today
More than two years after nationwide protests sparked by the death of George Floyd, conversations about the way Black Americans are policed — as well as the other inequities they face in modern life — have persisted in America.​
Extensive academic research and data collected by the federal government and researchers have documented numerous ways that Black Americans experience life in the United States differently from their white counterparts, whether it's underrepresentation in college attainment rates or overrepresentation in COVID-19 hospitalizations.​
It's called "systemic" racism because it's ingrained in nearly every way people move through society in the policies and practices at institutions like banks, schools, companies, government agencies, and law enforcement.​
The resulting data show that these disparities exist along nearly every facet of American life, including employment, wealth, education, home ownership, healthcare, and incarceration.​

The employment-population ratio measures the share of a demographic group that has a job, and it's been lower for Black people for years.​

The employment-population ratio for Black Americans has historically tended to fall quite a bit lower than for whites or Latinos.​
Since the coronavirus pandemic and subsequent lockdowns across the country triggered a recession starting in March of 2020, employment for all racial groups fell dramatically, though they have rebounded to pre-pandemic levels in 2022.​

The unemployment rate also spiked for all racial groups in the US during the coronavirus pandemic, and remains relatively higher for Black Americans.​

Just as Black employment has historically been lower than for whites, the unemployment rate among Black Americans has been higher. This remains the case despite low unemployment rates across the board.​

Black Americans are underrepresented in high-paying jobs.​

The Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that 58% of employed Asians worked in management, professional, and related occupations — the highest-paying major occupational category — compared with 43% of employed whites, 35% of employed Blacks, and 26% of employed Hispanics.​
This, in part, can be explained by racist hiring practices that kept Blacks out of business for decades under Jim Crow. It can also be explained by more subtle forms of prejudice today.​
One Harvard University study found that when Blacks and Asians "whitened" their resumes — for example, used "American" or "white"-sounding names — they got more callbacks for corporate interviews. 25% of Black candidates received callbacks from their whitened resumes, while only 10% got calls when they left ethnic details on their resume.​
[continued at the link above]​
My dad always told me "If it's always somebody else's fault, things will never get better."
It's up to the black man to prove his mettle and keep on proving it. Like Asians have done.
Complaining, protesting, and rioting won't change hearts and minds. It will do the opposite.
 
The only Racism left in America are individuals who are Racists. They have ZERO POWER over you that you do not give to them. Were you not the beneficiary of many privileges growing up Black in America? Scholarship to Emory Riddle perhaps? Quickly promoted during your career perhaps? I certainly saw many deserving (and some non-deserving) Blacks move up the corporate ladder ahead of White and Asian peers. I say good for them and good for you. It would have been terrible to be Black in 1960. It looks pretty good to me to Black in America in 2024. What am I missing?
 
While this is a nice OP, and a factual one, it is essentially complaining about being in the, "out-group."

. . . it is unAmerican, and authoritarian at that point, to expect the government to solve the problem, once the laws of the government and corporations treat everyone the same.

All we can do, is social shame, and place societal expectations on each other as what we expect our behavior to be.

We can't pass official laws of reverse discrimination. And making those sorts of institutional policies? That will probably cause backlash and make the problem worse. . . IMO.




You can't control folks thoughts and feelings. You can't make it illegal to think and feel a certain way. Orwell warned about this. It is called PC/Thought police.



Yes, minorities have this problem. But there are plenty of white folks that suffer this same problem. Folks that are fat, disabled, dumb, ugly, gay, queer, retarded, have a lisp, are bald, it goes on and on and on. EVERYONE gets bullied, shamed and excluded.

You just can't mandate a control over how others feel about you. Life isn't fair, and it is up to the individual to play the hand they are dealt.

It is tough luck reality, and life is NOT fair. With that said. . . it is better to lump it, than it is to whine about it.
 
tldr but a question for the OP. Why do you insist on speaking for blacks? You said you have done this for decades.

It really speaks to failure and why blacks despise elitist white liberals (like you) who think they speak for the black man. All they do is co-opt black activity and black lives.
 
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I'm posting this as a companion piece to this thread:
Zone1 - What Is Meant When It Is Said That a Person Has a White Supremacist Mindset (or is a Racist) - Part II With Required Sourcing & Citations

So many people, starting with just this one message board, are in denial. Not just about Black Americans and the challenges we still face as we navigate life as a part of a minority that was for several centuries legislatively relegated to 2nd class citizenship status. And yes while the laws regarding legal discrimination and segregation were eventually changed, as we can see, on a myriad of topics, just like we know that seems like half of the country is not happy with many of the major decisions that we don't get any say in, a segment of the white American majority in our country didn't then and still don't care what our law say.

They will tell you that it's their right to be racist, that racism is "not against the law" and they see nothing wrong with their beliefs, behaviors or comments. Those are not the people who are problematic with the exception of the violent fringes, because they show us, every single day, exactly who and what they are. It's the one who steadfastly insist that they are not racists while spewing a barrage of vitriol directed against Black in general, Black "culture" (whatever that is), as well as specific Black members of this message board that are the problem because they have others convinced they are not racists as well. And they are judges, and prosecutors, and attorneys, and investigators and legislators, employers and others who are in positions of authority who can enforce their biases and prejudices against others without anyone ever calling them on their racially biased viewpoints, except rarely.
  • Protests in recent years underscored the ways racism and racial inequality persist in American life.
  • Data and research show how Black Americans experience different treatment from their white counterparts.
  • These charts show the extent of racial disparities in America, in areas like employment and wealth.
Insider Today
More than two years after nationwide protests sparked by the death of George Floyd, conversations about the way Black Americans are policed — as well as the other inequities they face in modern life — have persisted in America.​
Extensive academic research and data collected by the federal government and researchers have documented numerous ways that Black Americans experience life in the United States differently from their white counterparts, whether it's underrepresentation in college attainment rates or overrepresentation in COVID-19 hospitalizations.​
It's called "systemic" racism because it's ingrained in nearly every way people move through society in the policies and practices at institutions like banks, schools, companies, government agencies, and law enforcement.​
The resulting data show that these disparities exist along nearly every facet of American life, including employment, wealth, education, home ownership, healthcare, and incarceration.​

The employment-population ratio measures the share of a demographic group that has a job, and it's been lower for Black people for years.​

The employment-population ratio for Black Americans has historically tended to fall quite a bit lower than for whites or Latinos.​
Since the coronavirus pandemic and subsequent lockdowns across the country triggered a recession starting in March of 2020, employment for all racial groups fell dramatically, though they have rebounded to pre-pandemic levels in 2022.​

The unemployment rate also spiked for all racial groups in the US during the coronavirus pandemic, and remains relatively higher for Black Americans.​

Just as Black employment has historically been lower than for whites, the unemployment rate among Black Americans has been higher. This remains the case despite low unemployment rates across the board.​

Black Americans are underrepresented in high-paying jobs.​

The Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that 58% of employed Asians worked in management, professional, and related occupations — the highest-paying major occupational category — compared with 43% of employed whites, 35% of employed Blacks, and 26% of employed Hispanics.​
This, in part, can be explained by racist hiring practices that kept Blacks out of business for decades under Jim Crow. It can also be explained by more subtle forms of prejudice today.​
One Harvard University study found that when Blacks and Asians "whitened" their resumes — for example, used "American" or "white"-sounding names — they got more callbacks for corporate interviews. 25% of Black candidates received callbacks from their whitened resumes, while only 10% got calls when they left ethnic details on their resume.​
[continued at the link above]​
the only people that think racism is still a problem are the racists themselves that are keeping it alive and well..

every human being on the planet is a racist in one way or another,,
get over it,,
 
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I'm posting this as a companion piece to this thread:
Zone1 - What Is Meant When It Is Said That a Person Has a White Supremacist Mindset (or is a Racist) - Part II With Required Sourcing & Citations

So many people, starting with just this one message board, are in denial. Not just about Black Americans and the challenges we still face as we navigate life as a part of a minority that was for several centuries legislatively relegated to 2nd class citizenship status. And yes while the laws regarding legal discrimination and segregation were eventually changed, as we can see, on a myriad of topics, just like we know that seems like half of the country is not happy with many of the major decisions that we don't get any say in, a segment of the white American majority in our country didn't then and still don't care what our law say.

They will tell you that it's their right to be racist, that racism is "not against the law" and they see nothing wrong with their beliefs, behaviors or comments. Those are not the people who are problematic with the exception of the violent fringes, because they show us, every single day, exactly who and what they are. It's the one who steadfastly insist that they are not racists while spewing a barrage of vitriol directed against Black in general, Black "culture" (whatever that is), as well as specific Black members of this message board that are the problem because they have others convinced they are not racists as well. And they are judges, and prosecutors, and attorneys, and investigators and legislators, employers and others who are in positions of authority who can enforce their biases and prejudices against others without anyone ever calling them on their racially biased viewpoints, except rarely.
  • Protests in recent years underscored the ways racism and racial inequality persist in American life.
  • Data and research show how Black Americans experience different treatment from their white counterparts.
  • These charts show the extent of racial disparities in America, in areas like employment and wealth.
Insider Today
More than two years after nationwide protests sparked by the death of George Floyd, conversations about the way Black Americans are policed — as well as the other inequities they face in modern life — have persisted in America.​
Extensive academic research and data collected by the federal government and researchers have documented numerous ways that Black Americans experience life in the United States differently from their white counterparts, whether it's underrepresentation in college attainment rates or overrepresentation in COVID-19 hospitalizations.​
It's called "systemic" racism because it's ingrained in nearly every way people move through society in the policies and practices at institutions like banks, schools, companies, government agencies, and law enforcement.​
The resulting data show that these disparities exist along nearly every facet of American life, including employment, wealth, education, home ownership, healthcare, and incarceration.​

The employment-population ratio measures the share of a demographic group that has a job, and it's been lower for Black people for years.​

The employment-population ratio for Black Americans has historically tended to fall quite a bit lower than for whites or Latinos.​
Since the coronavirus pandemic and subsequent lockdowns across the country triggered a recession starting in March of 2020, employment for all racial groups fell dramatically, though they have rebounded to pre-pandemic levels in 2022.​

The unemployment rate also spiked for all racial groups in the US during the coronavirus pandemic, and remains relatively higher for Black Americans.​

Just as Black employment has historically been lower than for whites, the unemployment rate among Black Americans has been higher. This remains the case despite low unemployment rates across the board.​

Black Americans are underrepresented in high-paying jobs.​

The Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that 58% of employed Asians worked in management, professional, and related occupations — the highest-paying major occupational category — compared with 43% of employed whites, 35% of employed Blacks, and 26% of employed Hispanics.​
This, in part, can be explained by racist hiring practices that kept Blacks out of business for decades under Jim Crow. It can also be explained by more subtle forms of prejudice today.​
One Harvard University study found that when Blacks and Asians "whitened" their resumes — for example, used "American" or "white"-sounding names — they got more callbacks for corporate interviews. 25% of Black candidates received callbacks from their whitened resumes, while only 10% got calls when they left ethnic details on their resume.​
[continued at the link above]​
who is it a problem for?
 
While this is a nice OP, and a factual one, it is essentially complaining about being in the, "out-group."

. . . it is unAmerican, and authoritarian at that point, to expect the government to solve the problem, once the laws of the government and corporations treat everyone the same.

All we can do, is social shame, and place societal expectations on each other as what we expect our behavior to be.

We can't pass official laws of reverse discrimination. And making those sorts of institutional policies? That will probably cause backlash and make the problem worse. . . IMO.




You can't control folks thoughts and feelings. You can't make it illegal to think and feel a certain way. Orwell warned about this. It is called PC/Thought police.



Yes, minorities have this problem. But there are plenty of white folks that suffer this same problem. Folks that are fat, disabled, dumb, ugly, gay, queer, retarded, have a lisp, are bald, it goes on and on and on. EVERYONE gets bullied, shamed and excluded.

You just can't mandate a control over how others feel about you. Life isn't fair, and it is up to the individual to play the hand they are dealt.

It is tough luck reality, and life is NOT fair. With that said. . . it is better to lump it, than it is to whine about it.

oh yeah. this place is chock-full-of fat shamers
 
My dad always told me "If it's always somebody else's fault, things will never get better."
It's up to the black man to prove his mettle and keep on proving it. Like Asians have done.
Complaining, protesting, and rioting won't change hearts and minds. It will do the opposite.
Stop ignoring the overwhelming evidence that shows what the problem is. Asians get discrininated against just like blacks.

I’m Tired of Trying to Educate White People About Anti-Asian Racism​

s we continue to witness violence against Asian Americans–including, in the past month, the punching of a Bay Area father pushing his baby in a stroller; the assault on two women with a cement block in a Baltimore liquor store; and the stabbing of two women, ages 85 and 65, at a bus stop in San Francisco–my social media feeds are frequently filled with messages imploring people to recognize and challenge anti-Asian racism.

It’s clear why, as many are apparently unaware. A recent survey found that 37% of white Americans had not even heard about the spike in attacks on Asian Americans (with 42% of respondents unable to name a single prominent Asian American). Another survey revealed that Asian women were targeted in 65% of incidents in which the victim’s gender was reported, and when demographic information was available, a majority of perpetrators were reported to be white and male. The recent wave of harassment and violence is just one manifestation of a deep-rooted anti-Asian prejudice in this country, which cannot be understood solely in terms of individual incidents, or without acknowledging that it is inextricably bound up with America’s long legacy of racial oppression built on anti-Blackness. But while discrimination faced by Asian and Pacific Islander people–especially those more vulnerable because of poverty, immigration status, occupation, age, isolation or other circumstances–is far from new, sometimes it can feel as though we are begging others to see it, see us, at all.

What can I say to persuade this or that group of white people–white parents, white people with Asian relatives or friends or co-workers, white people who aren’t “comfortable” talking about race or privilege–to start having these “important conversations” if they aren’t already? Is it my responsibility to do so? Maybe, if I can, but the truth is that I am tired of being asked to think about racism from the perspective of those least impacted by it. I don’t always feel like explaining anti-Asian prejudice to people who have never considered it before. I don’t want to hear or validate confessions that someone hasn’t thought enough, done enough, said enough, worked enough, read enough, challenged enough microaggressions at work or at school. I don’t need an inbox full of emotional labor from white people just discovering the fact that Asians in America experience racism, and that I am Asian American.


Whites like you have arrogantiy ignored the racism they put on Asians then try using stats about median income to make claims. Immigrants from India are considered Asian, and without the H1B Visa, those immigrants wold not be earning the income they are. That's the fucking government giving immigrants special status that blacks don't get. So shut your mouth about somebody earrning something because whites didn't earn what they have. Furthermore our ancestors have proven our worth, while yours have benefitted from our work. So again, you don't have shit to say to somebody but: "Im sorry and I will start working to fix the problems my race created here."
 

25 simple charts to show friends and family who aren't convinced racism is still a problem in America​

Dude. Come on. As though facts will help...

Simpsons-Facts.jpg
 
wanted to see the charts but was PREVENTED by a paywall.

Correlation does not equal causation. Remember that.
 
wanted to see the charts but was PREVENTED by a paywall.

Correlation does not equal causation. Remember that.
I think someoone black would know better than some white dude who continues to repeat a claim that was debunked nearly 60 years ago.
 
I'm posting this as a companion piece to this thread:
Zone1 - What Is Meant When It Is Said That a Person Has a White Supremacist Mindset (or is a Racist) - Part II With Required Sourcing & Citations

So many people, starting with just this one message board, are in denial. Not just about Black Americans and the challenges we still face as we navigate life as a part of a minority that was for several centuries legislatively relegated to 2nd class citizenship status. And yes while the laws regarding legal discrimination and segregation were eventually changed, as we can see, on a myriad of topics, just like we know that seems like half of the country is not happy with many of the major decisions that we don't get any say in, a segment of the white American majority in our country didn't then and still don't care what our law say.

They will tell you that it's their right to be racist, that racism is "not against the law" and they see nothing wrong with their beliefs, behaviors or comments. Those are not the people who are problematic with the exception of the violent fringes, because they show us, every single day, exactly who and what they are. It's the one who steadfastly insist that they are not racists while spewing a barrage of vitriol directed against Black in general, Black "culture" (whatever that is), as well as specific Black members of this message board that are the problem because they have others convinced they are not racists as well. And they are judges, and prosecutors, and attorneys, and investigators and legislators, employers and others who are in positions of authority who can enforce their biases and prejudices against others without anyone ever calling them on their racially biased viewpoints, except rarely.
  • Protests in recent years underscored the ways racism and racial inequality persist in American life.
  • Data and research show how Black Americans experience different treatment from their white counterparts.
  • These charts show the extent of racial disparities in America, in areas like employment and wealth.
Insider Today
More than two years after nationwide protests sparked by the death of George Floyd, conversations about the way Black Americans are policed — as well as the other inequities they face in modern life — have persisted in America.​
Extensive academic research and data collected by the federal government and researchers have documented numerous ways that Black Americans experience life in the United States differently from their white counterparts, whether it's underrepresentation in college attainment rates or overrepresentation in COVID-19 hospitalizations.​
It's called "systemic" racism because it's ingrained in nearly every way people move through society in the policies and practices at institutions like banks, schools, companies, government agencies, and law enforcement.​
The resulting data show that these disparities exist along nearly every facet of American life, including employment, wealth, education, home ownership, healthcare, and incarceration.​

The employment-population ratio measures the share of a demographic group that has a job, and it's been lower for Black people for years.​

The employment-population ratio for Black Americans has historically tended to fall quite a bit lower than for whites or Latinos.​
Since the coronavirus pandemic and subsequent lockdowns across the country triggered a recession starting in March of 2020, employment for all racial groups fell dramatically, though they have rebounded to pre-pandemic levels in 2022.​

The unemployment rate also spiked for all racial groups in the US during the coronavirus pandemic, and remains relatively higher for Black Americans.​

Just as Black employment has historically been lower than for whites, the unemployment rate among Black Americans has been higher. This remains the case despite low unemployment rates across the board.​

Black Americans are underrepresented in high-paying jobs.​

The Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that 58% of employed Asians worked in management, professional, and related occupations — the highest-paying major occupational category — compared with 43% of employed whites, 35% of employed Blacks, and 26% of employed Hispanics.​
This, in part, can be explained by racist hiring practices that kept Blacks out of business for decades under Jim Crow. It can also be explained by more subtle forms of prejudice today.​
One Harvard University study found that when Blacks and Asians "whitened" their resumes — for example, used "American" or "white"-sounding names — they got more callbacks for corporate interviews. 25% of Black candidates received callbacks from their whitened resumes, while only 10% got calls when they left ethnic details on their resume.​
[continued at the link above]​
A lot of people feel like they have "no say" in things and a lot of them don't have a say because they don't bother to vote with the voter participation gap between whites and blacks widening.
 

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