2nd Amendment should not be infringed upon because of Las Vegas shooter.

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Civilian militias exist in most states in the U.S. They are civilian militias; they are legal; they do not have a leadership that answers to the state UNLESS THE GOVERNOR CALLS THEM UP IN AN EMERGENCY.

Even then the governor's jurisdiction is limited to the duration of the emergency.
The Governor will not call upon private/citizen militias in an emergency, as they are not recognized as anything but a bunch of wanna-bees playing dress up in camo.
Sigh, one last time!

militia in American
(məˈlɪʃə
noun
1.
a. Archaic
any military force
b.
later, any army composed of citizens rather than professional soldiers, called up in time of emergency
2. US
in the U.S., all able-bodied male citizens between 18 and 45 years old who are not alreadymembers of the regular armed forces: members of the National Guard and of the Reserves (of the Army, Air Force, Coast Guard, Navy, and Marine Corps) constitute the organized militia; all others, the unorganized militia
3.
any of various disaffected groups of citizens that are organized as to resemble an army and that oppose the authority of the federal government
Webster’s New World College Dictionary, 4th Edition. Copyright © 2010 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. All rights reserved.

All you gun grabbers read, AND UNDERSTAND #3.
Who regulates the unorganized militia? If you own firearms, to which militia do you belong?
Civilian militias exist in most states in the U.S. They are civilian militias; they are legal; they do not have a leadership that answers to the state UNLESS THE GOVERNOR CALLS THEM UP IN AN EMERGENCY.

Even then the governor's jurisdiction is limited to the duration of the emergency.
They are legal but they are not well regulated.

They're legal, but not well regulated? By whose standards? Yours?

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves ... and include all men capable of bearing arms."

-- Senator Richard Henry Lee, 1788, on "militia" in the 2nd Amendment

Don't try to conflate the two. You're well regulated when you have a weapon and the governor calls that militia into service. In its dormant state, it is merely armed citizens who have an absolute Right to keep and bear Arms. But, because they are part of the whole people, they constitute the unorganized militia.
You are confusing natural rights with militia service. They are not the same.
 
Civilian militias exist in most states in the U.S. They are civilian militias; they are legal; they do not have a leadership that answers to the state UNLESS THE GOVERNOR CALLS THEM UP IN AN EMERGENCY.

Even then the governor's jurisdiction is limited to the duration of the emergency.
The Governor will not call upon private/citizen militias in an emergency, as they are not recognized as anything but a bunch of wanna-bees playing dress up in camo.
Sigh, one last time!

militia in American
(məˈlɪʃə
noun
1.
a. Archaic
any military force
b.
later, any army composed of citizens rather than professional soldiers, called up in time of emergency
2. US
in the U.S., all able-bodied male citizens between 18 and 45 years old who are not alreadymembers of the regular armed forces: members of the National Guard and of the Reserves (of the Army, Air Force, Coast Guard, Navy, and Marine Corps) constitute the organized militia; all others, the unorganized militia
3.
any of various disaffected groups of citizens that are organized as to resemble an army and that oppose the authority of the federal government
Webster’s New World College Dictionary, 4th Edition. Copyright © 2010 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. All rights reserved.

All you gun grabbers read, AND UNDERSTAND #3.
not at all;

gun lovers always omit this: all others, the unorganized militia

Well regulated militia are declared necessary to the security of a free State, and shall not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for that purpose.

You are a liar. That has been addressed more than 25 times in this thread alone. ALL of your bogus posts have been addressed. You've yet to cobble together a couple of words to make a sentence that tells us what your "cause" is. I'd say that makes YOU causeless.
dear, I don't have to lie; I have a valid argument. Only the right wing has nothing but repeal, and those forms of fallacies.

The People are the Militia; You are either, well regulated or you are not, for Second Amendment purposes.
 
Civilian militias exist in most states in the U.S. They are civilian militias; they are legal; they do not have a leadership that answers to the state UNLESS THE GOVERNOR CALLS THEM UP IN AN EMERGENCY.

Even then the governor's jurisdiction is limited to the duration of the emergency.
The Governor will not call upon private/citizen militias in an emergency, as they are not recognized as anything but a bunch of wanna-bees playing dress up in camo.
Sigh, one last time!

militia in American
(məˈlɪʃə
noun
1.
a. Archaic
any military force
b.
later, any army composed of citizens rather than professional soldiers, called up in time of emergency
2. US
in the U.S., all able-bodied male citizens between 18 and 45 years old who are not alreadymembers of the regular armed forces: members of the National Guard and of the Reserves (of the Army, Air Force, Coast Guard, Navy, and Marine Corps) constitute the organized militia; all others, the unorganized militia
3.
any of various disaffected groups of citizens that are organized as to resemble an army and that oppose the authority of the federal government
Webster’s New World College Dictionary, 4th Edition. Copyright © 2010 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. All rights reserved.

All you gun grabbers read, AND UNDERSTAND #3.
Who regulates the unorganized militia? If you own firearms, to which militia do you belong?
Civilian militias exist in most states in the U.S. They are civilian militias; they are legal; they do not have a leadership that answers to the state UNLESS THE GOVERNOR CALLS THEM UP IN AN EMERGENCY.

Even then the governor's jurisdiction is limited to the duration of the emergency.
They are legal but they are not well regulated.

They're legal, but not well regulated? By whose standards? Yours?

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves ... and include all men capable of bearing arms."

-- Senator Richard Henry Lee, 1788, on "militia" in the 2nd Amendment

Don't try to conflate the two. You're well regulated when you have a weapon and the governor calls that militia into service. In its dormant state, it is merely armed citizens who have an absolute Right to keep and bear Arms. But, because they are part of the whole people, they constitute the unorganized militia.
You are confusing natural rights with militia service. They are not the same.

I'm not confusing a damn thing you liar.
 
The Governor will not call upon private/citizen militias in an emergency, as they are not recognized as anything but a bunch of wanna-bees playing dress up in camo.
Sigh, one last time!

militia in American
(məˈlɪʃə
noun
1.
a. Archaic
any military force
b.
later, any army composed of citizens rather than professional soldiers, called up in time of emergency
2. US
in the U.S., all able-bodied male citizens between 18 and 45 years old who are not alreadymembers of the regular armed forces: members of the National Guard and of the Reserves (of the Army, Air Force, Coast Guard, Navy, and Marine Corps) constitute the organized militia; all others, the unorganized militia
3.
any of various disaffected groups of citizens that are organized as to resemble an army and that oppose the authority of the federal government
Webster’s New World College Dictionary, 4th Edition. Copyright © 2010 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. All rights reserved.

All you gun grabbers read, AND UNDERSTAND #3.
Who regulates the unorganized militia? If you own firearms, to which militia do you belong?
Civilian militias exist in most states in the U.S. They are civilian militias; they are legal; they do not have a leadership that answers to the state UNLESS THE GOVERNOR CALLS THEM UP IN AN EMERGENCY.

Even then the governor's jurisdiction is limited to the duration of the emergency.
They are legal but they are not well regulated.

They're legal, but not well regulated? By whose standards? Yours?

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves ... and include all men capable of bearing arms."

-- Senator Richard Henry Lee, 1788, on "militia" in the 2nd Amendment

Don't try to conflate the two. You're well regulated when you have a weapon and the governor calls that militia into service. In its dormant state, it is merely armed citizens who have an absolute Right to keep and bear Arms. But, because they are part of the whole people, they constitute the unorganized militia.
You are confusing natural rights with militia service. They are not the same.

I'm not confusing a damn thing you liar.
The People are the Militia; You are either, well regulated or you are not, for Second Amendment purposes.
 
danielpalos has shown that he is nothing but a sodomite and a troll. NOTHING he's posted is accurate; it has no legal foundation; he hasn't cited a single source for his lunatic ravings; he continues to try and appeal to me as if I understood his homosexual advances with his "dear" comments.

danielpalos can try to conflate the issues, but the bottom line is that you have an individual Right to keep and bear Arms that predates the Constitution of the United States and that individual Right doesn't have squat to do with a well regulated militia.

The Second Amendment neither creates a Right NOR secures it. That is according to standing case law. The Second Amendment guarantees the Right because if the government had to rely on the citizenry to be a last line of defense of this country, an armed citizenry could insure the security of a free state.

Since the government does not have the resources, time, money, or the immediate need to train, equip, and discipline a militia, they guarantee an existing Right so that each of you can own a weapon consistent with your absolute, inherent, God given, unalienable, natural Right (that existed before the Constitution was created)

This concept don't take 500 posts to understand.
 
Nothing but fallacy, right wingers?

The People are the Militia; You are either, well regulated or you are not, for Second Amendment purposes.

Arms for the militia is declared socialized in Article 1, Section 8.

You are confusing natural rights with militia obligation.
 
Nothing but fallacy, right wingers?

The People are the Militia; You are either, well regulated or you are not, for Second Amendment purposes.

Arms for the militia is declared socialized in Article 1, Section 8.

You are confusing natural rights with militia obligation.

Fallacy? right wingers? Nobody but YOU are confused. Article 1 Section 8 is in reference to the organized militia.

danielpalos, the greatest fallacy going on here on USM is your dumb ass thinking you have contributed something that would stimulate the human mind.

While the people constitute the militia, it is still in classes of organized and unorganized. Article 1 Section 8 refers to an organized militia that is raised up and trained for immediate use.

NOBODY, but YOU has confused the militia with natural rights.
 
Some days I can't help but feel sorry for danielpalos. He works hard for relevance, but his ramblings don't make sense. It does get tiresome to humor him and make him feel important.

This isn't rocket science. He babbles on about how "right wingers" have confused the issues of natural rights and the militia. What an idiot! He's either dumber than a box of rocks or an outright liar, but I'd spit in his face if he ever talked to me in person the way he talks to me on this board.

I keep saying it and danielpalos cannot understand this:

1) You have an absolute, unalienable, God given, inherent, natural RIGHT to keep and bear Arms. That Right is not dependent upon the Constitution NOR service in a militia

2) danielpalos is the ONLY person conflating the issue of militia and natural, inherent, God given, absolute, unalienable Rights (the courts have ruled those words to be synonymous

3) While the citizenry comprises the militia, federal law breaks the militia down into two groups: unorganized and organized. If you are in the unorganized militia, you are not a member of the Armed Forces, National Guard, or any government run militia. You still have your natural, inherent, God given, unalienable, absolute Rights intact

4) The militia is a separate issue from the Right to keep and bear Arms.
 
Nothing but fallacy, right wingers?

The People are the Militia; You are either, well regulated or you are not, for Second Amendment purposes.

Arms for the militia is declared socialized in Article 1, Section 8.

You are confusing natural rights with militia obligation.

Fallacy? right wingers? Nobody but YOU are confused. Article 1 Section 8 is in reference to the organized militia.

danielpalos, the greatest fallacy going on here on USM is your dumb ass thinking you have contributed something that would stimulate the human mind.

While the people constitute the militia, it is still in classes of organized and unorganized. Article 1 Section 8 refers to an organized militia that is raised up and trained for immediate use.

NOBODY, but YOU has confused the militia with natural rights.
Article 1, section 8 is about the militia of the United States; the subject of Arms for the militia is declared socialized.

You are confusing natural rights with what is codified in our Constitution.
 
Some days I can't help but feel sorry for danielpalos. He works hard for relevance, but his ramblings don't make sense. It does get tiresome to humor him and make him feel important.

This isn't rocket science. He babbles on about how "right wingers" have confused the issues of natural rights and the militia. What an idiot! He's either dumber than a box of rocks or an outright liar, but I'd spit in his face if he ever talked to me in person the way he talks to me on this board.

I keep saying it and danielpalos cannot understand this:

1) You have an absolute, unalienable, God given, inherent, natural RIGHT to keep and bear Arms. That Right is not dependent upon the Constitution NOR service in a militia

2) danielpalos is the ONLY person conflating the issue of militia and natural, inherent, God given, absolute, unalienable Rights (the courts have ruled those words to be synonymous

3) While the citizenry comprises the militia, federal law breaks the militia down into two groups: unorganized and organized. If you are in the unorganized militia, you are not a member of the Armed Forces, National Guard, or any government run militia. You still have your natural, inherent, God given, unalienable, absolute Rights intact

4) The militia is a separate issue from the Right to keep and bear Arms.
natural rights are covered in State Constitutions and available via Due Process.
 
Nothing but fallacy, right wingers?

The People are the Militia; You are either, well regulated or you are not, for Second Amendment purposes.

Arms for the militia is declared socialized in Article 1, Section 8.

You are confusing natural rights with militia obligation.

Fallacy? right wingers? Nobody but YOU are confused. Article 1 Section 8 is in reference to the organized militia.

danielpalos, the greatest fallacy going on here on USM is your dumb ass thinking you have contributed something that would stimulate the human mind.

While the people constitute the militia, it is still in classes of organized and unorganized. Article 1 Section 8 refers to an organized militia that is raised up and trained for immediate use.

NOBODY, but YOU has confused the militia with natural rights.
Article 1, section 8 is about the militia of the United States; the subject of Arms for the militia is declared socialized.

You are confusing natural rights with what is codified in our Constitution.

No sir, danielpalos. YOU are the only person who is confused. Make this simple for the reading audience:

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
 
Nothing but fallacy, right wingers?

The People are the Militia; You are either, well regulated or you are not, for Second Amendment purposes.

Arms for the militia is declared socialized in Article 1, Section 8.

You are confusing natural rights with militia obligation.

Fallacy? right wingers? Nobody but YOU are confused. Article 1 Section 8 is in reference to the organized militia.

danielpalos, the greatest fallacy going on here on USM is your dumb ass thinking you have contributed something that would stimulate the human mind.

While the people constitute the militia, it is still in classes of organized and unorganized. Article 1 Section 8 refers to an organized militia that is raised up and trained for immediate use.

NOBODY, but YOU has confused the militia with natural rights.
Article 1, section 8 is about the militia of the United States; the subject of Arms for the militia is declared socialized.

You are confusing natural rights with what is codified in our Constitution.

No sir, danielpalos. YOU are the only person who is confused. Make this simple for the reading audience:

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
Defense of self and property is a natural right. Arms make that more practicable.

Only well regulated militia may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

See the difference?
 
Some days I can't help but feel sorry for danielpalos. He works hard for relevance, but his ramblings don't make sense. It does get tiresome to humor him and make him feel important.

This isn't rocket science. He babbles on about how "right wingers" have confused the issues of natural rights and the militia. What an idiot! He's either dumber than a box of rocks or an outright liar, but I'd spit in his face if he ever talked to me in person the way he talks to me on this board.

I keep saying it and danielpalos cannot understand this:

1) You have an absolute, unalienable, God given, inherent, natural RIGHT to keep and bear Arms. That Right is not dependent upon the Constitution NOR service in a militia

2) danielpalos is the ONLY person conflating the issue of militia and natural, inherent, God given, absolute, unalienable Rights (the courts have ruled those words to be synonymous

3) While the citizenry comprises the militia, federal law breaks the militia down into two groups: unorganized and organized. If you are in the unorganized militia, you are not a member of the Armed Forces, National Guard, or any government run militia. You still have your natural, inherent, God given, unalienable, absolute Rights intact

4) The militia is a separate issue from the Right to keep and bear Arms.
natural rights are covered in State Constitutions and available via Due Process.


Absolutely WRONG. Here is how the courts have interpreted those Rights:

The absolute rights of individuals may be resolved into the right of personal security, the right of personal liberty, and the right to acquire and enjoy property. These rights are declared to be natural, inherent, and unalienable.” Atchison & N. R. Co. v. Baty, 6 Neb. 37, 40, 29 Am. Rep. 356 (1877)

By the "absolute rights" of individuals is meant those which are so in their primary and strictest sense, such as would belong to their persons merely in a state of nature, and which every man is entitled to enjoy, whether out of society or in it. The rights of personal security, of personal liberty, and private property do not depend upon the Constitution for their existence. They existed before the Constitution was made, or the government was organized. These are what are termed the "absolute rights" of individuals, which belong to them independently of all government, and which all governments which derive their power from the consent of the governed were instituted to protect.” People v. Berberrich (N. Y.) 20 Barb. 224, 229; McCartee v. Orphan Asylum Soc. (N. Y.) 9 Cow. 437, 511, 513, 18 Am. Dec. 516; People v. Toynbee (N. Y.) 2 Parker, Cr. R. 329, 369, 370 (quoting 1 Bl. Comm. 123)

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
 
Nothing but fallacy, right wingers?

The People are the Militia; You are either, well regulated or you are not, for Second Amendment purposes.

Arms for the militia is declared socialized in Article 1, Section 8.

You are confusing natural rights with militia obligation.

Fallacy? right wingers? Nobody but YOU are confused. Article 1 Section 8 is in reference to the organized militia.

danielpalos, the greatest fallacy going on here on USM is your dumb ass thinking you have contributed something that would stimulate the human mind.

While the people constitute the militia, it is still in classes of organized and unorganized. Article 1 Section 8 refers to an organized militia that is raised up and trained for immediate use.

NOBODY, but YOU has confused the militia with natural rights.
Article 1, section 8 is about the militia of the United States; the subject of Arms for the militia is declared socialized.

You are confusing natural rights with what is codified in our Constitution.

No sir, danielpalos. YOU are the only person who is confused. Make this simple for the reading audience:

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
Defense of self and property is a natural right. Arms make that more practicable.

Only well regulated militia may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

See the difference?

The difference, danielpalos, is that the RIGHT shall not be infringed.

No sir, danielpalos. YOU are the only person who is confused. Make this simple for the reading audience:

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
 
Some days I can't help but feel sorry for danielpalos. He works hard for relevance, but his ramblings don't make sense. It does get tiresome to humor him and make him feel important.

This isn't rocket science. He babbles on about how "right wingers" have confused the issues of natural rights and the militia. What an idiot! He's either dumber than a box of rocks or an outright liar, but I'd spit in his face if he ever talked to me in person the way he talks to me on this board.

I keep saying it and danielpalos cannot understand this:

1) You have an absolute, unalienable, God given, inherent, natural RIGHT to keep and bear Arms. That Right is not dependent upon the Constitution NOR service in a militia

2) danielpalos is the ONLY person conflating the issue of militia and natural, inherent, God given, absolute, unalienable Rights (the courts have ruled those words to be synonymous

3) While the citizenry comprises the militia, federal law breaks the militia down into two groups: unorganized and organized. If you are in the unorganized militia, you are not a member of the Armed Forces, National Guard, or any government run militia. You still have your natural, inherent, God given, unalienable, absolute Rights intact

4) The militia is a separate issue from the Right to keep and bear Arms.
natural rights are covered in State Constitutions and available via Due Process.


Absolutely WRONG. Here is how the courts have interpreted those Rights:

The absolute rights of individuals may be resolved into the right of personal security, the right of personal liberty, and the right to acquire and enjoy property. These rights are declared to be natural, inherent, and unalienable.” Atchison & N. R. Co. v. Baty, 6 Neb. 37, 40, 29 Am. Rep. 356 (1877)

By the "absolute rights" of individuals is meant those which are so in their primary and strictest sense, such as would belong to their persons merely in a state of nature, and which every man is entitled to enjoy, whether out of society or in it. The rights of personal security, of personal liberty, and private property do not depend upon the Constitution for their existence. They existed before the Constitution was made, or the government was organized. These are what are termed the "absolute rights" of individuals, which belong to them independently of all government, and which all governments which derive their power from the consent of the governed were instituted to protect.” People v. Berberrich (N. Y.) 20 Barb. 224, 229; McCartee v. Orphan Asylum Soc. (N. Y.) 9 Cow. 437, 511, 513, 18 Am. Dec. 516; People v. Toynbee (N. Y.) 2 Parker, Cr. R. 329, 369, 370 (quoting 1 Bl. Comm. 123)

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
dude; that doesn't matter once you get to social justice; private justice really is, that limited.

natural rights are covered in State Constitutions and available via Due Process.

All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.
 
Nothing but fallacy, right wingers?

The People are the Militia; You are either, well regulated or you are not, for Second Amendment purposes.

Arms for the militia is declared socialized in Article 1, Section 8.

You are confusing natural rights with militia obligation.

Fallacy? right wingers? Nobody but YOU are confused. Article 1 Section 8 is in reference to the organized militia.

danielpalos, the greatest fallacy going on here on USM is your dumb ass thinking you have contributed something that would stimulate the human mind.

While the people constitute the militia, it is still in classes of organized and unorganized. Article 1 Section 8 refers to an organized militia that is raised up and trained for immediate use.

NOBODY, but YOU has confused the militia with natural rights.
Article 1, section 8 is about the militia of the United States; the subject of Arms for the militia is declared socialized.

You are confusing natural rights with what is codified in our Constitution.

No sir, danielpalos. YOU are the only person who is confused. Make this simple for the reading audience:

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
Defense of self and property is a natural right. Arms make that more practicable.

Only well regulated militia may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

See the difference?

The difference, danielpalos, is that the RIGHT shall not be infringed.

No sir, danielpalos. YOU are the only person who is confused. Make this simple for the reading audience:

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
Only well regulated militia enjoy that right, not the unorganized militia.
 
Fallacy? right wingers? Nobody but YOU are confused. Article 1 Section 8 is in reference to the organized militia.

danielpalos, the greatest fallacy going on here on USM is your dumb ass thinking you have contributed something that would stimulate the human mind.

While the people constitute the militia, it is still in classes of organized and unorganized. Article 1 Section 8 refers to an organized militia that is raised up and trained for immediate use.

NOBODY, but YOU has confused the militia with natural rights.
Article 1, section 8 is about the militia of the United States; the subject of Arms for the militia is declared socialized.

You are confusing natural rights with what is codified in our Constitution.

No sir, danielpalos. YOU are the only person who is confused. Make this simple for the reading audience:

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
Defense of self and property is a natural right. Arms make that more practicable.

Only well regulated militia may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

See the difference?

The difference, danielpalos, is that the RIGHT shall not be infringed.

No sir, danielpalos. YOU are the only person who is confused. Make this simple for the reading audience:

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
Only well regulated militia enjoy that right, not the unorganized militia.
If I may quote a line from Johnny Dangerously, "You farking icehole."

A militia is made up of citizens, and is started as needed.
In order to START a REGULATED militia, you need armed citizens!
Got it?
Probably not.
 
Article 1, section 8 is about the militia of the United States; the subject of Arms for the militia is declared socialized.

You are confusing natural rights with what is codified in our Constitution.

No sir, danielpalos. YOU are the only person who is confused. Make this simple for the reading audience:

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
Defense of self and property is a natural right. Arms make that more practicable.

Only well regulated militia may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

See the difference?

The difference, danielpalos, is that the RIGHT shall not be infringed.

No sir, danielpalos. YOU are the only person who is confused. Make this simple for the reading audience:

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
Only well regulated militia enjoy that right, not the unorganized militia.
If I may quote a line from Johnny Dangerously, "You farking icehole."

A militia is made up of citizens, and is started as needed.
In order to START a REGULATED militia, you need armed citizens!
Got it?
Probably not.
you must be a regular; they go for anything (they are told.)

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution
, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788


Only well regulated militia enjoy that right, not the unorganized militia.
 
Fallacy? right wingers? Nobody but YOU are confused. Article 1 Section 8 is in reference to the organized militia.

danielpalos, the greatest fallacy going on here on USM is your dumb ass thinking you have contributed something that would stimulate the human mind.

While the people constitute the militia, it is still in classes of organized and unorganized. Article 1 Section 8 refers to an organized militia that is raised up and trained for immediate use.

NOBODY, but YOU has confused the militia with natural rights.
Article 1, section 8 is about the militia of the United States; the subject of Arms for the militia is declared socialized.

You are confusing natural rights with what is codified in our Constitution.

No sir, danielpalos. YOU are the only person who is confused. Make this simple for the reading audience:

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
Defense of self and property is a natural right. Arms make that more practicable.

Only well regulated militia may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

See the difference?

The difference, danielpalos, is that the RIGHT shall not be infringed.

No sir, danielpalos. YOU are the only person who is confused. Make this simple for the reading audience:

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
Only well regulated militia enjoy that right, not the unorganized militia.

WRONG again, danielpalos. The Right of the people is what is protected by the Second Amendment. The militia is necessary, but it is the Right of the people that is protected from infringement.
 
No sir, danielpalos. YOU are the only person who is confused. Make this simple for the reading audience:

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
Defense of self and property is a natural right. Arms make that more practicable.

Only well regulated militia may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

See the difference?

The difference, danielpalos, is that the RIGHT shall not be infringed.

No sir, danielpalos. YOU are the only person who is confused. Make this simple for the reading audience:

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
Only well regulated militia enjoy that right, not the unorganized militia.
If I may quote a line from Johnny Dangerously, "You farking icehole."

A militia is made up of citizens, and is started as needed.
In order to START a REGULATED militia, you need armed citizens!
Got it?
Probably not.
you must be a regular; they go for anything (they are told.)

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution
, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788


Only well regulated militia enjoy that right, not the unorganized militia.

The difference, danielpalos, is that the RIGHT shall not be infringed.

No sir, danielpalos. YOU are the only person who is confused. Make this simple for the reading audience:

Do you, danielpalos, as an individual believe that you have a Right to keep and bear Arms? A simple yes or no is all I ask.
 
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