3 stupid myths republicans believe

[Faun]

1) They do pay for themselves. You see, if you have more people paying taxes on more economic activity you can actually make MORE money then you currently have. In fact, every time taxes are cut, the economy improves and the treasury brings more money in. It's called the Laffer Curve, look it up.

2) The leadership sure leans that way. Progressives called themselves progressives because they believe in progresing society towards socialism/communism step by step. Through evolution rather than revolution. When progressives were exposed in the 1920s, they scared the heck out of the population and so rebranded themselves as liberals, while traditional "liberal" viewpoints were adopted by conservatives and libertarians.

3) Who the heck are you to determine what too wealthy is? If someone is blessed more for his labor, why should I have a right to force him to pay for what I want to be done? Why should I be angry at my brother because of his success? Rather, I should rejoice in it. And persuade and encourage him to use his resources wisely. But how he ultimately uses it is between him and God. Why do you want to be a robber in your heart?

1) False, the economy does not always improve following a tax cut. Taxes were cut in 1981 and 1982 and the economy grew worse; getting stronger from 1983 after tax increases were passed. Taxes were cut in 2001 and 2002, and again, the economy grew worse. The economy did get better after the 2003 tax cut, but it's debatable how much the tax cut contributed to that versus the housing bubble, which was ballooning out of control between 2003 and 2006.

And about the Laffer Curve ... it symmetrical curve maximizes revenue at about a 50% tax rate. Why on Earth would you advocate that if you're against higher taxes??

2) False again. Words have meaning ...

Socialism

a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

Communism

a way of organizing a society in which the government owns the things that are used to make and transport products (such as land, oil, factories, ships, etc.) and there is no privately owned property​

There are no leaders of the Democrat party advocating the government take ownership of major industries. You confuse regulating private industries with taking ownership of them. And forget Communism. That is a complete absurdity as no leaders are advocating the government seizing all property from the people.

3. This one is completely subjectable and no one will ever agree on what is "wealthy." The fact is, generally speaking, the more you make, the more you spend. So there is no doubt that there are some folks making around a million dollars a year who still struggle financially while there are others making $100,000, living a much more meager lifestyle, but not struggling as much. As far as progressive taxes, there are pros and cons for both progressive taxes and a flat tax. I personally prefer progressive taxes because it produces more public revenue than a flat tax would, which benefits everyone.

Explain why the Communists, socialists and Marxists here in the states fully support the Dem party. Many of the radicals were delegates at the DNC convention. They hate those who are against their idiotic ideas, but love all the liberals.

I have no more of an explanation for that than I do why terrorists wanted Bush to defeat Kerry in the 2004 election. Regardless of what draws them to the Democrat party, as I pointed out -- there are no leaders of the party advocating either Socialism and especially Communism.

 

[bedowin62]

we have record numbers of able-bodied Americans not participating in the labor force


seriously; you idiots on the Left need to shut your mouths and stop pretending you have a clue on economic matters. this is real life; not your ivory towers

Umm, some 94% of those not in the workforce don't want to work. That includes housewives, retired baby boomers, folks collecting disability, folks collecting welfares....

just laughable!! seems like just yesterday the Left was saying people don't want to sit around and collect a check; they want to work; now you are saying the oppositie

you're making a fool of yourself

 

[bedowin62]

we have record numbers of able-bodied Americans not participating in the labor force


seriously; you idiots on the Left need to shut your mouths and stop pretending you have a clue on economic matters. this is real life; not your ivory towers

Umm, some 94% of those not in the workforce don't want to work. That includes housewives, retired baby boomers, folks collecting disability, folks collecting welfares....

just laughable!! seems like just yesterday the Left was saying people don't want to sit around and collect a check; they want to work; now you are saying the oppositie

you're making a fool of yourself

by the way; there are record numbers of ABLE-BODIED people not participating in the labor market; so the people in disability is a red herring

ur a JOKE

 

[bedowin62]

so "94% of them don't want to work"

well thank goodness libs have trillions of other people's money and an inept economic agenda to grant them their wish!!

idiot

 

[Billy000]

Umm, some 94% of those not in the workforce don't want to work. That includes housewives, retired baby boomers, folks collecting disability, folks collecting welfares....

just laughable!! seems like just yesterday the Left was saying people don't want to sit around and collect a check; they want to work; now you are saying the oppositie

you're making a fool of yourself

by the way; there are record numbers of ABLE-BODIED people not participating in the labor market; so the people in disability is a red herring

ur a JOKE

Many of the people who have given up looking for work is because they cannot find jobs that do not exist.

 

[bedowin62]

liberal-run cities and states are the most financially insolvent

you have no business offering an opinion on what works economically

what DOESNT work yes; but what does? NO

 

[Faun]

several of Obama's associates; aides; or advisors self-identify themselves as hardcore Socialists or even communists. denying stuff just makes you look stupid

Dumbfuck .... neither aids nor advisors are "leaders."

 

[bedowin62]

BUT then again what do you expect from self-deceiving losers that call record welfare and food stamps "forward progress"????

 

[bedowin62]

several of Obama's associates; aides; or advisors self-identify themselves as hardcore Socialists or even communists. denying stuff just makes you look stupid

Dumbfuck .... neither aids nor advisors are "leaders."

poor angry idiot; hope obamacare covers your coming aneurysm

 

[Faun]

it's true; liberal morons believe every penny earned by every body is the property of the US government; and if they allow you to keep any of the money you earned it's them doing you a favor

libs are just morons

hisses a brain-dead rightard.

Name the Liberal advocating a 100% tax rate? That's what it would have to be for the government to own "every penny earned."

dozens of liberals on these very boards advocate the 90% tax rates for the top brackets used to fund WWII. YOU'RE A JOKE. calling me loony is laughable

record welfare and food stamps is the Progressive legacy

Do you even realize that's not what you said?? You said "ALL," as in 100%. You can't even name one Liberal apparently seeking what you claimed is sought. So yes, that makes you rightarded.

 

[bedowin62]

people who believed; twice; that a guy who never brought positive "change" to anybody, anywhere, ever; should not be commenting on so-called myths others believe in

 

[Faun]

THE IDIOTIC LEFT insists their Messiahs policies and Stimulus saved the country; and things are so much better now. but not good enough to reduce the RECORD WELFARE AND FOOD STAMP LEVELS from the EMERGENCY LEVELS FROM THE END OF THE BUSH YEARS AND BEGINNING OF THE OBAMA YEARS; by one penny or one day of eligibility


idiots and hypocrites

Still waiting ... who do you blame for that 1 million decrease in employment?

Answer the question so I can bitch slap you with your own answer.

 

[bedowin62]

Obama's unemployment number; and the jobs "created" is GARBAGE.

if he created so many jobs there couldn't be so many on welfare; record numbers in fact

because nobody is gaming the system right leftard?

"jobs created" don't mean dick if you LOST AN EVEN GREATER NUMBER OF JOBS


Obama's number doesn't count MILLIONS WHO HAVE LEFT THE LABOR MARKET ALTOGETHER


idiots n hypocrites

 

[bedowin62]

THE IDIOTIC LEFT insists their Messiahs policies and Stimulus saved the country; and things are so much better now. but not good enough to reduce the RECORD WELFARE AND FOOD STAMP LEVELS from the EMERGENCY LEVELS FROM THE END OF THE BUSH YEARS AND BEGINNING OF THE OBAMA YEARS; by one penny or one day of eligibility


idiots and hypocrites

Still waiting ... who do you blame for that 1 million decrease in employment?

Answer the question so I can bitch slap you with your own answer.

Obama's inept policies of course you angry idiot; that have corporations sitting on their profits; not hiring, waiting for the next idiotic; possibly un-Constitutional move from the inept Chicago activist

you cant bitch-slap me dork; you don't have what it takes

 

[Faun]

so "94% of them don't want to work"

well thank goodness libs have trillions of other people's money and an inept economic agenda to grant them their wish!!

idiot

It's cute how you abandon your moronic positions as they get swatted down, just rolling from one rightarded talking point to the next.

 

[bedowin62]

Democrats are running away from Obama and his "vision"

you can deceive yourself all day if you want; and you no doubt will

lol

 

[bedowin62]

so "94% of them don't want to work"

well thank goodness libs have trillions of other people's money and an inept economic agenda to grant them their wish!!

idiot

It's cute how you abandon your moronic positions as they get swatted down, just rolling from one rightarded talking point to the next.

poor idiot; I didn't abandon anything; I confirmed it

 

[bedowin62]

so "94% of them don't want to work"

well thank goodness libs have trillions of other people's money and an inept economic agenda to grant them their wish!!

idiot

It's cute how you abandon your moronic positions as they get swatted down, just rolling from one rightarded talking point to the next.

poor idiot; I didn't abandon anything; I confirmed it

YAWN
you're chasing your tail; you cant win here. if people are sitting back collecting check; then it destroys the liberal view that people really do want to work
and since you haven't denied Obama's policies are costing jobs; rather you just laughably now say people don't want to work; you contradict your own talking point on working; and confirm Obama's policies cost jobs as well


give yourself round of applause!

 

[bedowin62]

record welfare and food stamps is your legacy; making as many Americans as possible dependent on the government is your goal; and you SUCCEEDED in that?

why are you trying to deny that?

own your legacy

 

[Faun]

THE IDIOTIC LEFT insists their Messiahs policies and Stimulus saved the country; and things are so much better now. but not good enough to reduce the RECORD WELFARE AND FOOD STAMP LEVELS from the EMERGENCY LEVELS FROM THE END OF THE BUSH YEARS AND BEGINNING OF THE OBAMA YEARS; by one penny or one day of eligibility

idiots and hypocrites

Still waiting ... who do you blame for that 1 million decrease in employment?

Answer the question so I can bitch slap you with your own answer.

Obama's inept policies of course you angry idiot; that have corporations sitting on their profits; not hiring, waiting for the next idiotic; possibly un-Constitutional move from the inept Chicago activist

you cant bitch-slap me dork; you don't have what it takes

I was hoping you would say that.

Your claim that there are 1 million fewer employed now than when Bush was president is based on the peak of employment under Bush, which occurred in 2007, just before Bush's Great Recession began, when there were 146.6 million employed. However, the economy began tanking under Bush, not Obama. By the time Obama became president, there were only 142.1 million employed. Today, there are 145.2 million employed.

In reality, employment is UP 3.1 million under Obama. And that's even factoring in the additional 4 million jobs that were lost in 2009 because of Bush's Great Recession.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

That means what you are idiotically doing (and being the obedient rightard you are, everything you do is idiotic), is you are blaming Obama for the 4.5 million jobs lost between the start of Bush's Great Recession and Obama's inauguration.

Can you see now why you're so fucking brain-dead??

You're blaming Obama's policies for losing over 4 million jobs before Obama passed his first policy.

Holyfuckingshit!