30,000 dead in just 13 days.

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Now, 40,000 Americans are dead with the death rate rising every day. The non-essential economy is shut down and will need to remain so for months

Keeping the nation shut down as one big internment camp is just compounding misery and is probably the stupidest thing we could possibly do. Thankfully no one of any responsible standing is advocating what you
are. Tell some family with children to feed and trying to keep a roof over their heads they must stay penniless
because you hate Trump.

You are full of crap and influenza killed over 60,000 according to the CDC in the 2017/18 flu season.
Keeping people prisoners in their own homes will only make things worse, not that you give a shit.

Seasonal flu has a vaccine you can take that protects you, coronavirus at this time does not. Most people who die from seasonal flu die because they did not get the vaccine which is offered every year. Plus, flu season is 6 months. 60,000 deaths over 6 months is 10,000 every thirty days. In Just the last 13 days we have had 30,000 people die from coronavirus and that is with all the mitigation efforts. You let all these people go back to work or if you had not shut down in the first place, you would kill 2.4 MILLION Americans by August.

Anyone that can't feed their family can go to the nearest food pantry or homeless shelter to get food. This is about survival, not business as usual. This is a global and national emergency.

Trying to reopen the economy when its not safe will just lead to more lockdowns and more death. The best thing for the economy and public health is to remain shutdown until the pathogen has been defeated to the point that it can be managed by healthcare workers without putting the American public at risks.

The overwhelming majority of Americans support the shutdown. Only 22% support opening the country up.

You are assuming the rate of death will remain constant, which it will not and even now we see the
death rate coming down.

And telling millions of people who are unemployed to just go to a food bank
or homeless shelter is also no answer since the vast amount of people out of work will absolutely swamp
any support system and send it out of commission too.

There is only one solution and that is to tackle the problem on two tracks....one is to continue to get input from experts and scientists learning all we can as we go on although you will not like what you see in many cases.

Feud over Stanford coronavirus study: ‘The authors owe us all an apology’

Did the COVID-19 virus infect between 48,000 and 81,000 residents of Santa Clara County? Not so quick, say statisticians, citing what they call deep flaws in a Stanford study.

www.mercurynews.com

And the other is to let healthy young people (fifty-five and below) go back to work, open businesses back up
as other nations are now doing, and it sounds like you won't like that either.

We cannot wait out the corona virus and unfortunately there is no perfect solution here.
Your solution certainly isn't and it's like choking yourself while someone else pounds in your face.

 

[Indeependent]

The United States reached the 1,000 dead mark from covid-19 on March 26, 2020.

The United States reached the 10,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 6, 2020.

The United States reached the 40,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 19, 2020.

That's an average of 2,307 people dying from covid-19 every day or the past 13 days. Seasonal flue only kills 200 people a day.

Yet we have idiot Trump supporters wanting to open up non-essential business's in various states which will allow the pathogen access to more hosts and lead to more deaths.

The smart Americans are considering closing grocery stores to customers and going strictly to curbside take away and delivery. Idiot customers are not following social distancing in grocery stores and its helping spread the virus and kill grocery store workers.

In the mean time only 6 people have died in TAIWAN since the outbreak began while the United States is at 40,265 deaths.

The United States could have been like Taiwan, but because of the idiot Trump who is currently President, the United States waited until late March to institute the restrictions that Taiwan put in place on January 20, 2020. TRUMP WAITED AND WAITED and now the United States has tens of thousands of dead, rising each day by more than 2,000, with schools shut down and large parts of the economy shut down.

But in TAIWAN, the schools are still open because they have contained the virus. Only 6 people of died in Taiwan, a country of 24 million people more densely populated than any U.S. state and larger than any U.S. state in population with the exception of California and Texas.

Good God in Heaven, have mercy. That's the most elaborate crucifixion and character assassination yet by any Democrat against President Trump I've seen. Don't expect a lot of people to lay back for that, U2Edge. While Democrats were 24/7/on-steroids attempting to destroy President Trump for 3 solid years, no breaks, he beat every stinking one of you motor-mouthed liars developing an anti-COVID-19 strategy you decided to incorporate into your hostility-laden humdrum 2 months later, out of the blue, to pull out the emotional fear in human beings unfortunate enough to have to listen to MSM/Democrat propagandized lies over and over and over again..

I'm not a Democrat. I've been a registered Republican all my life. I've voted straight Republican down the ticket every election until 2016.

Trump either did not prepare or dismantled key portions of the United States ability to respond to a pandemic in his first three years in office.

TAIWAN is the GOLD STANDARD in grading how your country did against this virus. The United States has the 13th highest infection rate per capita and the 12 highest death rate per capita from covid-19. Trump did not implement travel restrictions that Taiwan put in place in January 20, 2020 until late March. Most of Trump's actions at the federal level the past three months did nothing or were simply too late to do anything. Its the State governors and their lockdown orders that have saved lives. Trump's efforts at protecting and saving lives have been an absolute failure because he was too late in responding.

Now, 40,000 Americans are dead with the death rate rising every day. The non-essential economy is shut down and will need to remain so for months because TRUMP let the virus penetrate into the country by not taking early action to shut down travel into the United States from ALL COUNTRIES!

We’ve all been reading your demented bullshit for quite a while and it’s obvious you’re insane.

 

[Death-Ninja]

The United States reached the 1,000 dead mark from covid-19 on March 26, 2020.

The United States reached the 10,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 6, 2020.

The United States reached the 40,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 19, 2020.

That's an average of 2,307 people dying from covid-19 every day or the past 13 days. Seasonal flue only kills 200 people a day.

Yet we have idiot Trump supporters wanting to open up non-essential business's in various states which will allow the pathogen access to more hosts and lead to more deaths.

The smart Americans are considering closing grocery stores to customers and going strictly to curbside take away and delivery. Idiot customers are not following social distancing in grocery stores and its helping spread the virus and kill grocery store workers.

In the mean time only 6 people have died in TAIWAN since the outbreak began while the United States is at 40,265 deaths.

The United States could have been like Taiwan, but because of the idiot Trump who is currently President, the United States waited until late March to institute the restrictions that Taiwan put in place on January 20, 2020. TRUMP WAITED AND WAITED and now the United States has tens of thousands of dead, rising each day by more than 2,000, with schools shut down and large parts of the economy shut down.

But in TAIWAN, the schools are still open because they have contained the virus. Only 6 people of died in Taiwan, a country of 24 million people more densely populated than any U.S. state and larger than any U.S. state in population with the exception of California and Texas.

Good grief, the truth is the Wuhan bio-weapon is proving to be less lethal than seasonal flu, while it certainly kills, it does so very selectively, largely predicated upon secondary medical conditions which then combine to produce secondary infections far more lethal than the virus itself. There is emerging evidence which supports mathematical models indicating vastly higher rates of infection within the public sphere, the most promising such model/study done in the bay area of California indicates that exposures are actually as much as 85 times higher than currently known!

Further, and this is a big one, the viruses proclivity for raging through care facilities housing the elderly, and infirm, are serving to greatly inflate fatalities, and perhaps skew data! Know you this Mr fearmonger, in the month of October, 1918, Spanish flu killed at the very minimum, 195,000 Americans, that's right, 195,000 plus dead in just one months time! Often, the dead were youth, 12-25 years of age, who healthy and well in the AM, developed Spanish flu by the afternoon, and were ice cold dead by dinnertime, and yet America remained open for business as usual, other than for localized closures of schools, and facilities......

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

The United States reached the 1,000 dead mark from covid-19 on March 26, 2020.

The United States reached the 10,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 6, 2020.

The United States reached the 40,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 19, 2020.

That's an average of 2,307 people dying from covid-19 every day or the past 13 days. Seasonal flue only kills 200 people a day.

Yet we have idiot Trump supporters wanting to open up non-essential business's in various states which will allow the pathogen access to more hosts and lead to more deaths.

The smart Americans are considering closing grocery stores to customers and going strictly to curbside take away and delivery. Idiot customers are not following social distancing in grocery stores and its helping spread the virus and kill grocery store workers.

In the mean time only 6 people have died in TAIWAN since the outbreak began while the United States is at 40,265 deaths.

The United States could have been like Taiwan, but because of the idiot Trump who is currently President, the United States waited until late March to institute the restrictions that Taiwan put in place on January 20, 2020. TRUMP WAITED AND WAITED and now the United States has tens of thousands of dead, rising each day by more than 2,000, with schools shut down and large parts of the economy shut down.

But in TAIWAN, the schools are still open because they have contained the virus. Only 6 people of died in Taiwan, a country of 24 million people more densely populated than any U.S. state and larger than any U.S. state in population with the exception of California and Texas.

Good grief, the truth is the Wuhan bio-weapon is proving to be less lethal than seasonal flu, while it certainly kills, it does so very selectively, largely predicated upon secondary medical conditions which then combine to produce secondary infections far more lethal than the virus itself. There is emerging evidence which supports mathematical models indicating vastly higher rates of infection within the public sphere, the most promising such model/study done in the bay area of California indicates that exposures are actually as much as 85 times higher than currently known!

Further, and this is a big one, the viruses proclivity for raging through care facilities housing the elderly, and infirm, are serving to greatly inflate fatalities, and perhaps skew data! Know you this Mr fearmonger, in the month of October, 1918, Spanish flu killed at the very minimum, 195,000 Americans, that's right, 195,000 plus dead in just one months time! Often, the dead were youth, 12-25 years of age, who healthy and well in the AM, developed Spanish flu by the afternoon, and were ice cold dead by dinnertime, and yet America remained open for business as usual, other than for localized closures of schools, and facilities......

You are keen observer of the Covid 19 virus, Death Ninja. People would do well to listen to you but I fear
the real damage is done in the brains of (and I hate to make everything a hate Trump/like Trump dichotomy
but that's how it seems these days) people who simply cannot stand to be sharing the planet, let alone
nation, with President Donald J. Trump.

The study out of Stanford is very interesting and it suggests with good reason that the spread of the
Covid 19 virus is much much greater than previously thought and therefore, the danger to most people
is much much less than we thought. Coronavirus spread: Number of people infected by COVID-19 may be 50-80 times higher than official count, Stanford study suggests

That may explain why gun totting protestors in Michigan and Spring Break lunk heads can violate all
the Fauci social distancing rules without any negative repercussions at all and, surprise, sick old people
in a Kirkland, Washington rest home drop like flies when the Corona virus is introduced.

Young strong people are healthy despite all the social distancing blather and old sick people are not.
Color me shocked! That sounds just like every flu season I have experienced in my many
decades on earth.

 

[Death-Ninja]

The United States reached the 1,000 dead mark from covid-19 on March 26, 2020.

The United States reached the 10,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 6, 2020.

The United States reached the 40,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 19, 2020.

That's an average of 2,307 people dying from covid-19 every day or the past 13 days. Seasonal flue only kills 200 people a day.

Yet we have idiot Trump supporters wanting to open up non-essential business's in various states which will allow the pathogen access to more hosts and lead to more deaths.

The smart Americans are considering closing grocery stores to customers and going strictly to curbside take away and delivery. Idiot customers are not following social distancing in grocery stores and its helping spread the virus and kill grocery store workers.

In the mean time only 6 people have died in TAIWAN since the outbreak began while the United States is at 40,265 deaths.

The United States could have been like Taiwan, but because of the idiot Trump who is currently President, the United States waited until late March to institute the restrictions that Taiwan put in place on January 20, 2020. TRUMP WAITED AND WAITED and now the United States has tens of thousands of dead, rising each day by more than 2,000, with schools shut down and large parts of the economy shut down.

But in TAIWAN, the schools are still open because they have contained the virus. Only 6 people of died in Taiwan, a country of 24 million people more densely populated than any U.S. state and larger than any U.S. state in population with the exception of California and Texas.

Good grief, the truth is the Wuhan bio-weapon is proving to be less lethal than seasonal flu, while it certainly kills, it does so very selectively, largely predicated upon secondary medical conditions which then combine to produce secondary infections far more lethal than the virus itself. There is emerging evidence which supports mathematical models indicating vastly higher rates of infection within the public sphere, the most promising such model/study done in the bay area of California indicates that exposures are actually as much as 85 times higher than currently known!

Further, and this is a big one, the viruses proclivity for raging through care facilities housing the elderly, and infirm, are serving to greatly inflate fatalities, and perhaps skew data! Know you this Mr fearmonger, in the month of October, 1918, Spanish flu killed at the very minimum, 195,000 Americans, that's right, 195,000 plus dead in just one months time! Often, the dead were youth, 12-25 years of age, who healthy and well in the AM, developed Spanish flu by the afternoon, and were ice cold dead by dinnertime, and yet America remained open for business as usual, other than for localized closures of schools, and facilities......

You are keen observer of the Covid 19 virus, Death Ninja. People would do well to listen to you but I fear
the real damage is done in the brains of (and I hate to make everything a hate Trump/like Trump dichotomy
but that's how it seems these days) people who simply cannot stand to be sharing the planet, let alone
nation, with President Donald J. Trump.

The study out of Stanford is very interesting and it suggests with good reason that the spread of the
Covid 19 virus is much much greater than previously thought and therefore, the danger to most people
is much much less than we thought. Coronavirus spread: Number of people infected by COVID-19 may be 50-80 times higher than official count, Stanford study suggests

That may explain why gun totting protestors in Michigan and Spring Break lunk heads can violate all
the Fauci social distancing rules without any negative repercussions at all and, surprise, sick old people
in a Kirkland, Washington rest home drop like flies when the Corona virus is introduced.

Young strong people are healthy despite all the social distancing blather and old sick people are not.
Color me shocked! That sounds just like every flu season I have experienced in my many
decades on earth.

I support not one asshole marching in the streets, however, the reality is we can all go back to work and maintain sensible, reasonable, distancing standards, and much as we did during the radically more savage Spanish flu pandemic, implement localized closures/shutdowns as necessary. Regardless, this bug is actually proving less lethal than originally modeled, and what I see being bearded by folks of a certain political persuasion will lead to an event which will prove orders of magnitude more lethal to America, widespread, enduring poverty......

 

[WEATHER53]

Trump Is a doer and not an ass kiss and that goes against the grain of safe space lock down libbies

 

[WEATHER53]

The United States reached the 1,000 dead mark from covid-19 on March 26, 2020.

The United States reached the 10,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 6, 2020.

The United States reached the 40,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 19, 2020.

That's an average of 2,307 people dying from covid-19 every day or the past 13 days. Seasonal flue only kills 200 people a day.

Yet we have idiot Trump supporters wanting to open up non-essential business's in various states which will allow the pathogen access to more hosts and lead to more deaths.

The smart Americans are considering closing grocery stores to customers and going strictly to curbside take away and delivery. Idiot customers are not following social distancing in grocery stores and its helping spread the virus and kill grocery store workers.

In the mean time only 6 people have died in TAIWAN since the outbreak began while the United States is at 40,265 deaths.

The United States could have been like Taiwan, but because of the idiot Trump who is currently President, the United States waited until late March to institute the restrictions that Taiwan put in place on January 20, 2020. TRUMP WAITED AND WAITED and now the United States has tens of thousands of dead, rising each day by more than 2,000, with schools shut down and large parts of the economy shut down.

But in TAIWAN, the schools are still open because they have contained the virus. Only 6 people of died in Taiwan, a country of 24 million people more densely populated than any U.S. state and larger than any U.S. state in population with the exception of California and Texas.

Good grief, the truth is the Wuhan bio-weapon is proving to be less lethal than seasonal flu, while it certainly kills, it does so very selectively, largely predicated upon secondary medical conditions which then combine to produce secondary infections far more lethal than the virus itself. There is emerging evidence which supports mathematical models indicating vastly higher rates of infection within the public sphere, the most promising such model/study done in the bay area of California indicates that exposures are actually as much as 85 times higher than currently known!

Further, and this is a big one, the viruses proclivity for raging through care facilities housing the elderly, and infirm, are serving to greatly inflate fatalities, and perhaps skew data! Know you this Mr fearmonger, in the month of October, 1918, Spanish flu killed at the very minimum, 195,000 Americans, that's right, 195,000 plus dead in just one months time! Often, the dead were youth, 12-25 years of age, who healthy and well in the AM, developed Spanish flu by the afternoon, and were ice cold dead by dinnertime, and yet America remained open for business as usual, other than for localized closures of schools, and facilities......

You are keen observer of the Covid 19 virus, Death Ninja. People would do well to listen to you but I fear
the real damage is done in the brains of (and I hate to make everything a hate Trump/like Trump dichotomy
but that's how it seems these days) people who simply cannot stand to be sharing the planet, let alone
nation, with President Donald J. Trump.

The study out of Stanford is very interesting and it suggests with good reason that the spread of the
Covid 19 virus is much much greater than previously thought and therefore, the danger to most people
is much much less than we thought. Coronavirus spread: Number of people infected by COVID-19 may be 50-80 times higher than official count, Stanford study suggests

That may explain why gun totting protestors in Michigan and Spring Break lunk heads can violate all
the Fauci social distancing rules without any negative repercussions at all and, surprise, sick old people
in a Kirkland, Washington rest home drop like flies when the Corona virus is introduced.

Young strong people are healthy despite all the social distancing blather and old sick people are not.
Color me shocked! That sounds just like every flu season I have experienced in my many
decades on earth.

Yep the guy from Stanford was live on TV a few nights ago. This virus breezesd through most of us before we were even talking about it, He thinks 85% of us have had it already
The MSM and libbies will try to bury this guy because it blows out of the water the overwhelming majority of their”end of mankind lock us down we are stupid” agenda.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Well we're making progress with conservatives. It's just slow progress.

"Coronavirus is just as bad as the flu" was a bullshit talking point from the right.

Show me the last time the flu killed 4,700 New Yorkers in a week.

It's nice to see that they're slowly changing their stance away from that position.

 

[XponentialChaos]

So, let me see if I have the conservative viewpoint correct.

The lives of people are expendable because we need to act in our best financial interests. Interesting. And also abortion is unacceptable.

 

[WEATHER53]

So, let me see if I have the conservative viewpoint correct.

The lives of people are expendable because we need to act in our best financial interests. Interesting. And also abortion is unacceptable.

You are essentially correct
The lives of a very very few,0.1%, who are mostly infirmed and elderly and likely to meet their maker quite soon Are expendable in accord with the oft referenced “needs of the many” other 99.9%
Are you beginning to see the light?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The United States reached the 1,000 dead mark from covid-19 on March 26, 2020.

The United States reached the 10,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 6, 2020.

The United States reached the 40,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 19, 2020.

That's an average of 2,307 people dying from covid-19 every day or the past 13 days. Seasonal flue only kills 200 people a day.

Yet we have idiot Trump supporters wanting to open up non-essential business's in various states which will allow the pathogen access to more hosts and lead to more deaths.

The smart Americans are considering closing grocery stores to customers and going strictly to curbside take away and delivery. Idiot customers are not following social distancing in grocery stores and its helping spread the virus and kill grocery store workers.

In the mean time only 6 people have died in TAIWAN since the outbreak began while the United States is at 40,265 deaths.

The United States could have been like Taiwan, but because of the idiot Trump who is currently President, the United States waited until late March to institute the restrictions that Taiwan put in place on January 20, 2020. TRUMP WAITED AND WAITED and now the United States has tens of thousands of dead, rising each day by more than 2,000, with schools shut down and large parts of the economy shut down.

But in TAIWAN, the schools are still open because they have contained the virus. Only 6 people of died in Taiwan, a country of 24 million people more densely populated than any U.S. state and larger than any U.S. state in population with the exception of California and Texas.

Good God in Heaven, have mercy. That's the most elaborate crucifixion and character assassination yet by any Democrat against President Trump I've seen. Don't expect a lot of people to lay back for that, U2Edge. While Democrats were 24/7/on-steroids attempting to destroy President Trump for 3 solid years, no breaks, he beat every stinking one of you motor-mouthed liars developing an anti-COVID-19 strategy you decided to incorporate into your hostility-laden humdrum 2 months later, out of the blue, to pull out the emotional fear in human beings unfortunate enough to have to listen to MSM/Democrat propagandized lies over and over and over again..

I'm not a Democrat. I've been a registered Republican all my life. I've voted straight Republican down the ticket every election until 2016.

Trump either did not prepare or dismantled key portions of the United States ability to respond to a pandemic in his first three years in office.

TAIWAN is the GOLD STANDARD in grading how your country did against this virus. The United States has the 13th highest infection rate per capita and the 12 highest death rate per capita from covid-19. Trump did not implement travel restrictions that Taiwan put in place in January 20, 2020 until late March. Most of Trump's actions at the federal level the past three months did nothing or were simply too late to do anything. Its the State governors and their lockdown orders that have saved lives. Trump's efforts at protecting and saving lives have been an absolute failure because he was too late in responding.

Now, 40,000 Americans are dead with the death rate rising every day. The non-essential economy is shut down and will need to remain so for months because TRUMP let the virus penetrate into the country by not taking early action to shut down travel into the United States from ALL COUNTRIES!

I didn’t know they had republicans in China.

 

[Pogo]

The United States reached the 1,000 dead mark from covid-19 on March 26, 2020.

The United States reached the 10,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 6, 2020.

The United States reached the 40,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 19, 2020.

That's an average of 2,307 people dying from covid-19 every day or the past 13 days. Seasonal flue only kills 200 people a day.

Yet we have idiot Trump supporters wanting to open up non-essential business's in various states which will allow the pathogen access to more hosts and lead to more deaths.

The smart Americans are considering closing grocery stores to customers and going strictly to curbside take away and delivery. Idiot customers are not following social distancing in grocery stores and its helping spread the virus and kill grocery store workers.

In the mean time only 6 people have died in TAIWAN since the outbreak began while the United States is at 40,265 deaths.

The United States could have been like Taiwan, but because of the idiot Trump who is currently President, the United States waited until late March to institute the restrictions that Taiwan put in place on January 20, 2020. TRUMP WAITED AND WAITED and now the United States has tens of thousands of dead, rising each day by more than 2,000, with schools shut down and large parts of the economy shut down.

But in TAIWAN, the schools are still open because they have contained the virus. Only 6 people of died in Taiwan, a country of 24 million people more densely populated than any U.S. state and larger than any U.S. state in population with the exception of California and Texas.

Good grief, the truth is the Wuhan bio-weapon is proving to be less lethal than seasonal flu, while it certainly kills, it does so very selectively, largely predicated upon secondary medical conditions which then combine to produce secondary infections far more lethal than the virus itself. There is emerging evidence which supports mathematical models indicating vastly higher rates of infection within the public sphere, the most promising such model/study done in the bay area of California indicates that exposures are actually as much as 85 times higher than currently known!

Further, and this is a big one, the viruses proclivity for raging through care facilities housing the elderly, and infirm, are serving to greatly inflate fatalities, and perhaps skew data! Know you this Mr fearmonger, in the month of October, 1918, Spanish flu killed at the very minimum, 195,000 Americans, that's right, 195,000 plus dead in just one months time! Often, the dead were youth, 12-25 years of age, who healthy and well in the AM, developed Spanish flu by the afternoon, and were ice cold dead by dinnertime, and yet America remained open for business as usual, other than for localized closures of schools, and facilities......

Umm yyyyyyyeeeaaaahhhh that's because the government was lying about it and censoring the news to keep it quiet, because there was a war going on and pandemics are not good for the business of war. Also, way more than their share of those 195,000 dead in October came from Philadelphia --- 4,500 in one week; 837 in a single day, Oct. 12 --- because that city ignored the health experts' warnings and went on with a scheduled war parade the previous month drawing 200,000 people. Victims were left with no choice but to leave the bodies outside residences like trash for the morgue wagon to pick up. This because they ignored the health experts' warnings to keep people separated.

It might edumacate you to know also that the flu wasn't "Spanish" at all and the only reason it was called that was that Spain, not involved in the war, was the major affected country NOT lying about its news.

 

[Pogo]

You could say that again. Never let these people near public office again. Their ideas are a threat to the national security of the United States.

Their ideas, beliefs and policy are the most irresponsible, sick and deadly I've ever seen in my life.
Yes I agree people like this should never have any power to inflict this on our nation ever again.
They aren't just a real and deadly threat to the United States. They are a threat to the whole world.

Taiwan does not have as much air traffic from around the world, dudes, and they are a very small island.

Trump, has managed to give us less than half the COVID19 death rate Europe has and you still bitch about it.

ORANGE MAN BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Less than half the death rate Europe has"?

---- Linkie Dinkie?

While you're uh, struggling with that let's see some samples, not having a firm definition for "Europe".
From the Worldometer:

ESPAÑA:

CLOSED CASES: 101,439​

80,587 (79%) Recovered / Discharged​

20,852 (21%) Deaths​

ITALIA:

CLOSED CASES: 72,991​

48,877 (67%) Recovered / Discharged​

24,114 (33%) Deaths​

FRANCE:

CLOSED CASES: 57,674​

37,409 (65%) Recovered / Discharged​

20,265 (35%) Deaths​

DEUTSCHLAND:

CLOSED CASES: 96,206​

91,500 (95%) Recovered / Discharged​

4,706 (5%) Deaths​

US:

CLOSED CASES: 112,845​

71,489 (63%) Recovered / Discharged​

41,356 (37%) Deaths​

---- Care to essplain to the class how that's a "less than half" death rate?

You do know lowest scrore "wins", right?

Oh and by the way the UK is not listed because there are no numbers recorded for # of recoveries (same is true of Holland) so how exactly are you going to calculate without figures to plug in?

Hm?

Your premise is dismissed.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand no response from JimBob. What a surprise.

 

[Death-Ninja]

So, let me see if I have the conservative viewpoint correct.

The lives of people are expendable because we need to act in our best financial interests. Interesting. And also abortion is unacceptable.

Poverty kills on a scale vastly greater, indeed widespread poverty which you democrats/communists romanticize, is the primary reason for pandemic illness.... Abortion is just plain fucking evil, as is every human who embraces it.... Democrats have industrialized the murder of babies, savagely killing them, then butchering their murdered bodies for their organs and tissues, just as your CCP landlords do in their concentration camps all across China, then selling them off to the highest bidders. When you are so evil you can do such to the most helpless of humans, then you are capable of anything, no evil deed or desire is beyond such sociopaths....

 

[bodecea]

The United States reached the 1,000 dead mark from covid-19 on March 26, 2020.

The United States reached the 10,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 6, 2020.

The United States reached the 40,000 dead mark from covid-19 on April 19, 2020.

That's an average of 2,307 people dying from covid-19 every day or the past 13 days. Seasonal flue only kills 200 people a day.

Yet we have idiot Trump supporters wanting to open up non-essential business's in various states which will allow the pathogen access to more hosts and lead to more deaths.

The smart Americans are considering closing grocery stores to customers and going strictly to curbside take away and delivery. Idiot customers are not following social distancing in grocery stores and its helping spread the virus and kill grocery store workers.

In the mean time only 6 people have died in TAIWAN since the outbreak began while the United States is at 40,265 deaths.

The United States could have been like Taiwan, but because of the idiot Trump who is currently President, the United States waited until late March to institute the restrictions that Taiwan put in place on January 20, 2020. TRUMP WAITED AND WAITED and now the United States has tens of thousands of dead, rising each day by more than 2,000, with schools shut down and large parts of the economy shut down.

But in TAIWAN, the schools are still open because they have contained the virus. Only 6 people of died in Taiwan, a country of 24 million people more densely populated than any U.S. state and larger than any U.S. state in population with the exception of California and Texas.

We've been told by trump that it will just disappear......

I will say this:

If you are REALLY a trump supporter, listen to him and disregard the quarantine restrictions. Show your conviction and loyalty to trump. Support the man you voted for. Have your rallies, protests, and gatherings. Shake hands, embrace and talk to each other about how all this distancing is unnecessary. Get in close. C'mon, don't be a pussy. Stand by your president. That's the best way to show up the libs.

 

[XponentialChaos]

So, let me see if I have the conservative viewpoint correct.

The lives of people are expendable because we need to act in our best financial interests. Interesting. And also abortion is unacceptable.

You are essentially correct
The lives of a very very few,0.1%, who are mostly infirmed and elderly and likely to meet their maker quite soon Are expendable in accord with the oft referenced “needs of the many” other 99.9%
Are you beginning to see the light?

I don't want to lead this thread off the rails, but my question is how this viewpoint coincides with people who are "pro-life". You're willing to extinguish a life, without remorse, because of the financial burden. Sounds familiar to a different debate.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The lives of a very very few,0.1%, who are mostly infirmed and elderly and likely to meet their maker quite soon Are expendable in accord with the oft referenced “needs of the many” other 99.9%

Wrong as usual, idiot. Those people will still all require medical treatment, as will the seriously ill who are saved by medical treatment. This will adversely affect our healthcare system for everyone, not just the elderly whom you are dehumanizing for your cult, you freak.

 

[Death-Ninja]

Well we're making progress with conservatives. It's just slow progress.

"Coronavirus is just as bad as the flu" was a bullshit talking point from the right.

Show me the last time the flu killed 4,700 New Yorkers in a week.

It's nice to see that they're slowly changing their stance away from that position.

You're an idiot, a genuine public school prodigy.... You have absolutely no more proof of that claim than the idiot Goveror of NY does... What we do know is that the vast majority who died with a diagnoses of Wuhan flu, also suffered other equally lethal conditions, I have heard multiple MD's state we don't really know if they died due to the Wuhan flu, or if they just died with it!

 

[XponentialChaos]

Well we're making progress with conservatives. It's just slow progress.

"Coronavirus is just as bad as the flu" was a bullshit talking point from the right.

Show me the last time the flu killed 4,700 New Yorkers in a week.

It's nice to see that they're slowly changing their stance away from that position.

You're an idiot, a genuine public school prodigy.... You have absolutely no more proof of that claim than the idiot Goveror of NY does... What we do know is that the vast majority who died with a diagnoses of Wuhan flu, also suffered other equally lethal conditions, I have heard multiple MD's state we don't really know if they died due to the Wuhan flu, or if they just died with it!

Like I said, it's slow progress with you guys.

Is there evidence that would disprove your belief that this thing is no big deal, or is it an unfalsifiable claim?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You have absolutely no more proof of that claim than the idiot Goveror of NY does...

he has all the proof one could ever have, and the same proof you use when your dumbass sites flu death numbers.