30 foot sections of wall going up in San Diego. I was wrong.

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Construction begins on 30-foot-tall border wall in San Diego

I recall ridiculing people who believed Trump could get the wall built. I figured for sure that even if he wanted to, the bed wetters would tie it up in court, sabotage the equipment, lay down in the way or otherwise do whatever they could to stop it.

I happily stand corrected.

Bed wetters are trying to stop it of course, but it's happening, and it's happening in commiefornia of all places. Trump is doing a great job undoing regressive policy and beating these parasites on many fronts. We never would have gotten these results from any of the RINOs, and I don't think even Ted Cruz would have achieved nearly as much as Trump. I have become one of his zealots and I make no apology for it. He earned it.

No wall is being built. The sections of fence going up in San Diego are replacement fence. Nothing more.

Trump is lying again.

President Trump Tweets Video Of Border Wall Construction In New Mexico

The problem is it's not true. This is a section of replacement fence. Nothing more. No new wall. It's illegal.

I have never seen anyone work so hard to prove that they are the biggest dumbass on this message board.

What is up with that?

 

[Flopper]

Okay...it's been over 2 years; how much have we gotten from the Mexican government so far?

How much cooperation have we gotten from the Democrats the last two years?

He had both houses of Congress up until about 3 months ago. Where was the massive push to build the wall then? Where was the emergency declaration? Where was the "art of the deal"? Blaming the opposition party is fashionable. But if Trump can't get it done...isn't it time to hire someone who can? LOL

I would assume you are unaware that some bills cannot pass unless they have 60 Senate votes which we haven't had in a long time. Then we have to consider the backstabbers like McCain.

So don't tell me Republicans had total control over the federal government because that would be a lie.

No party has had control of the White House and congress with a super majority in 50 years so your argument is not relevant. Some of the most significant legislation has passed without control of government and a super majority. Of course those were the day when the two sides formed coalitions to pass legislation and there was no guarantee that members would vote the party line.

John McCain was not the only the maverick whose has refused to follow his party blindly. There have been many on both sides over the years. Without them, congress just becomes a rubber stamp for the leaders in each house. They are the last vestige of independent thinking and bipartisanship.

 

[candycorn]

Okay...it's been over 2 years; how much have we gotten from the Mexican government so far?

How much cooperation have we gotten from the Democrats the last two years?

He had both houses of Congress up until about 3 months ago. Where was the massive push to build the wall then? Where was the emergency declaration? Where was the "art of the deal"? Blaming the opposition party is fashionable. But if Trump can't get it done...isn't it time to hire someone who can? LOL

I would assume you are unaware that some bills cannot pass unless they have 60 Senate votes which we haven't had in a long time. Then we have to consider the backstabbers like McCain.

So don't tell me Republicans had total control over the federal government because that would be a lie.

No party has had control of the White House and congress with a super majority in 50 years so your argument is not relevant. Some of the most significant legislation has passed without control of government and a super majority. Of course those were the day when the two sides formed coalitions to pass legislation and there was no guarantee that members would vote the party line.

John McCain was not the only the maverick whose has refused to follow his party blindly. There have been many on both sides over the years. Without them, congress just becomes a rubber stamp for the leaders in each house. They are the last vestige of independent thinking and bipartisanship.

Obama had 60 votes to pass the ACA for a few weeks if memory serves. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
You're right about the rest though...

 

[Flopper]

And you voted for a Socialist:

If that's what you believe, fine. But my choices were a Socialist and a Communist, so I made the right choice. How about you?

Okay...which one was Trump? Is he a Socialist or a Communist?

Do some research. What candidate did the US Communist Party endorse?

The Communist Party does not endorse candidates from other parties. The last Communist Party candidate was Gus Hall in 1984.
Communist Party USA - Wikipedia

ROFLMFAO

CPUSA Says Re-electing Obama is “Absolutely Essential”

Communist Party USA Endorses Hillary; Media Yawns

.

FALSE​

Although John Bachtell is chairmen of the party, he is only a member of the National Committee. Even if he said he supported Hillary Clinton, he would not be speaking for the party. For the party to endorse Hillary Clinton they would have to abandon their long standing policy of not endorsing any candidate from major parties which they have not done. The Communist Party did not endorse Hillary Clinton.

False Archives | Snopes.com

 

[Pete7469]

This is replacement wall as called for in the 1.3 billion dollars legally allocated to Trump by congress. We have yet to see any new wall from funds stolen by Trump from other programs.

That's cute, is agitprop your specialty? You must work for the NY Slimes.

First of all, there have been billions of dollars passed over the last couple decades to fund barriers that were never spent. The funds you refer to that Trump would "steal" were already allocated to military budgets. So it's not like 100,000 professional voters in democrook ghettos aren't getting their free shit.

We are seeing miles of new and improved barriers being built all along the border but leftist clowns want to pretend it's not happening. That's fine. We are talking about the same fools who believe SUV's and cow farts regulate the climate as opposed to The Sun.

Second of all, EVERY DOLLAR the government spends, no matter what it was spent on was STOLEN. Funny thing is millions were raised voluntarily by the public for this endeavor. The wall is something a lot of people want.

Fat ghetto rats? Not so much.

 

[Pete7469]

FALSE​

Although John Bachtell is chairmen of the party, he is only a member of the National Committee. Even if he said he supported Hillary Clinton, he would not be speaking for the party. For the party to endorse Hillary Clinton they would have to abandon their long standing policy of not endorsing any candidate from major parties which they have not done. The Communist Party did not endorse Hillary Clinton.

False Archives | Snopes.com

Snopes?

LOL... REALLY?

Why not just ask hitlery herself?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

How can the wall be built? We haven't got any money from Mexico yet.

Do you know how many minds of ours you're going to change with that BS? ZERO! So write CNN and tell them it's not working as they thought.

Just reminding you that you bought a bill of goods and support someone who lies to your face. Whether you wish to accept the truth or continue to deceive yourself and retreat to your safe space...that is your choice.

Some of us simply don't care whether he lied or misrepresented what he ment. We just want the wall built.
I don't give a rats ass where the money comes from including my own taxes being raised to fund it.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Okay...it's been over 2 years; how much have we gotten from the Mexican government so far?

How much cooperation have we gotten from the Democrats the last two years?

He had both houses of Congress up until about 3 months ago. Where was the massive push to build the wall then? Where was the emergency declaration? Where was the "art of the deal"? Blaming the opposition party is fashionable. But if Trump can't get it done...isn't it time to hire someone who can? LOL

I would assume you are unaware that some bills cannot pass unless they have 60 Senate votes which we haven't had in a long time. Then we have to consider the backstabbers like McCain.

So don't tell me Republicans had total control over the federal government because that would be a lie.

No party has had control of the White House and congress with a super majority in 50 years so your argument is not relevant. Some of the most significant legislation has passed without control of government and a super majority. Of course those were the day when the two sides formed coalitions to pass legislation and there was no guarantee that members would vote the party line.

John McCain was not the only the maverick whose has refused to follow his party blindly. There have been many on both sides over the years. Without them, congress just becomes a rubber stamp for the leaders in each house. They are the last vestige of independent thinking and bipartisanship.

Obama had 60 votes to pass the ACA for a few weeks if memory serves. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
You're right about the rest though...

Obama paid a huge sum of money to several senators in order to pass that boondoggle. Without those bribes his legislation was doa

 

[candycorn]

How can the wall be built? We haven't got any money from Mexico yet.

Do you know how many minds of ours you're going to change with that BS? ZERO! So write CNN and tell them it's not working as they thought.

Just reminding you that you bought a bill of goods and support someone who lies to your face. Whether you wish to accept the truth or continue to deceive yourself and retreat to your safe space...that is your choice.

Some of us simply don't care whether he lied or misrepresented what he ment. We just want the wall built.
I don't give a rats ass where the money comes from including my own taxes being raised to fund it.

So by "not caring" you're okay with democrats and liberals lying then right?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

How can the wall be built? We haven't got any money from Mexico yet.

Do you know how many minds of ours you're going to change with that BS? ZERO! So write CNN and tell them it's not working as they thought.

Just reminding you that you bought a bill of goods and support someone who lies to your face. Whether you wish to accept the truth or continue to deceive yourself and retreat to your safe space...that is your choice.

Some of us simply don't care whether he lied or misrepresented what he ment. We just want the wall built.
I don't give a rats ass where the money comes from including my own taxes being raised to fund it.

So by "not caring" you're okay with democrats and liberals lying then right?

In most situations no. Republicans are just as bad.
But in this particular instance yes.

 

[candycorn]

How much cooperation have we gotten from the Democrats the last two years?

He had both houses of Congress up until about 3 months ago. Where was the massive push to build the wall then? Where was the emergency declaration? Where was the "art of the deal"? Blaming the opposition party is fashionable. But if Trump can't get it done...isn't it time to hire someone who can? LOL

I would assume you are unaware that some bills cannot pass unless they have 60 Senate votes which we haven't had in a long time. Then we have to consider the backstabbers like McCain.

So don't tell me Republicans had total control over the federal government because that would be a lie.

No party has had control of the White House and congress with a super majority in 50 years so your argument is not relevant. Some of the most significant legislation has passed without control of government and a super majority. Of course those were the day when the two sides formed coalitions to pass legislation and there was no guarantee that members would vote the party line.

John McCain was not the only the maverick whose has refused to follow his party blindly. There have been many on both sides over the years. Without them, congress just becomes a rubber stamp for the leaders in each house. They are the last vestige of independent thinking and bipartisanship.

Obama had 60 votes to pass the ACA for a few weeks if memory serves. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
You're right about the rest though...

Obama paid a huge sum of money to several senators in order to pass that boondoggle. Without those bribes his legislation was doa

That is how governing has worked since we founded the nation. You give this; you get that. Instead of negotiating, you have a guy declaring a national emergency where there clearly isn't any and looting the treasury.

 

[candycorn]

How can the wall be built? We haven't got any money from Mexico yet.

Do you know how many minds of ours you're going to change with that BS? ZERO! So write CNN and tell them it's not working as they thought.

Just reminding you that you bought a bill of goods and support someone who lies to your face. Whether you wish to accept the truth or continue to deceive yourself and retreat to your safe space...that is your choice.

Some of us simply don't care whether he lied or misrepresented what he ment. We just want the wall built.
I don't give a rats ass where the money comes from including my own taxes being raised to fund it.

So by "not caring" you're okay with democrats and liberals lying then right?

In most situations no. Republicans are just as bad.
But in this particular instance yes.

Ahh...okay.

I give you credit for admitting your blob is a liar. Most of your stripe can't bring themselves to admit even that.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

He had both houses of Congress up until about 3 months ago. Where was the massive push to build the wall then? Where was the emergency declaration? Where was the "art of the deal"? Blaming the opposition party is fashionable. But if Trump can't get it done...isn't it time to hire someone who can? LOL

I would assume you are unaware that some bills cannot pass unless they have 60 Senate votes which we haven't had in a long time. Then we have to consider the backstabbers like McCain.

So don't tell me Republicans had total control over the federal government because that would be a lie.

No party has had control of the White House and congress with a super majority in 50 years so your argument is not relevant. Some of the most significant legislation has passed without control of government and a super majority. Of course those were the day when the two sides formed coalitions to pass legislation and there was no guarantee that members would vote the party line.

John McCain was not the only the maverick whose has refused to follow his party blindly. There have been many on both sides over the years. Without them, congress just becomes a rubber stamp for the leaders in each house. They are the last vestige of independent thinking and bipartisanship.

Obama had 60 votes to pass the ACA for a few weeks if memory serves. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
You're right about the rest though...

Obama paid a huge sum of money to several senators in order to pass that boondoggle. Without those bribes his legislation was doa

That is how governing has worked since we founded the nation. You give this; you get that. Instead of negotiating, you have a guy declaring a national emergency where there clearly isn't any and looting the treasury.

Bribing a handful of lawmakers is not negotiating it is bribery and should be a criminal offense

 

[Camp]

Some people don't mind being lied to, duped, scammed and conned by grifters and frauds. For those folks who accept Trump's gaming them his game is OK. Other folks feel differently and do not accept his method of governing and general lack of moral character.

 

[sparky]

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Do you know how many minds of ours you're going to change with that BS? ZERO! So write CNN and tell them it's not working as they thought.

Just reminding you that you bought a bill of goods and support someone who lies to your face. Whether you wish to accept the truth or continue to deceive yourself and retreat to your safe space...that is your choice.

Some of us simply don't care whether he lied or misrepresented what he ment. We just want the wall built.
I don't give a rats ass where the money comes from including my own taxes being raised to fund it.

So by "not caring" you're okay with democrats and liberals lying then right?

In most situations no. Republicans are just as bad.
But in this particular instance yes.

Ahh...okay.

I give you credit for admitting your blob is a liar. Most of your stripe can't bring themselves to admit even that.

They all lie. The only reason one lie is worse than any other is if it personally effects peoples lives.
The only people affected by a wall or lies about its funding on the southern border are people wishing to enter illegally and Democrats "feelings". Who in their right mind would care in the slightest about either of those?

Contrast that to lies like If you like your insurance you can keep it. Or your premiums will go down by 2500.00.

Those lies actually impacted peoples (AMERICANS) lives

 

[candycorn]

I would assume you are unaware that some bills cannot pass unless they have 60 Senate votes which we haven't had in a long time. Then we have to consider the backstabbers like McCain.

So don't tell me Republicans had total control over the federal government because that would be a lie.

No party has had control of the White House and congress with a super majority in 50 years so your argument is not relevant. Some of the most significant legislation has passed without control of government and a super majority. Of course those were the day when the two sides formed coalitions to pass legislation and there was no guarantee that members would vote the party line.

John McCain was not the only the maverick whose has refused to follow his party blindly. There have been many on both sides over the years. Without them, congress just becomes a rubber stamp for the leaders in each house. They are the last vestige of independent thinking and bipartisanship.

Obama had 60 votes to pass the ACA for a few weeks if memory serves. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
You're right about the rest though...

Obama paid a huge sum of money to several senators in order to pass that boondoggle. Without those bribes his legislation was doa

That is how governing has worked since we founded the nation. You give this; you get that. Instead of negotiating, you have a guy declaring a national emergency where there clearly isn't any and looting the treasury.

Bribing a handful of lawmakers is not negotiating it is bribery and should be a criminal offense

You’d have to indict every lawmaker we’ve ever had. Including your blob

 

[candycorn]

Just reminding you that you bought a bill of goods and support someone who lies to your face. Whether you wish to accept the truth or continue to deceive yourself and retreat to your safe space...that is your choice.

Some of us simply don't care whether he lied or misrepresented what he ment. We just want the wall built.
I don't give a rats ass where the money comes from including my own taxes being raised to fund it.

So by "not caring" you're okay with democrats and liberals lying then right?

In most situations no. Republicans are just as bad.
But in this particular instance yes.

Ahh...okay.

I give you credit for admitting your blob is a liar. Most of your stripe can't bring themselves to admit even that.

They all lie. The only reason one lie is worse than any other is if it personally effects peoples lives.
The only people affected by a wall or lies about its funding on the southern border are people wishing to enter illegally and Democrats "feelings". Who in their right mind would care in the slightest about either of those?

Contrast that to lies like If you like your insurance you can keep it. Or your premiums will go down by 2500.00.

Those lies actually impacted peoples (AMERICANS) lives

You don’t think higher food prices and labor shortages are going to impact people’s lives?

Do you honestly believe your life will be one degree better next week or next month if there were a wall built tomorrow? If so...in what way?

 

[22lcidw]

He had both houses of Congress up until about 3 months ago. Where was the massive push to build the wall then? Where was the emergency declaration? Where was the "art of the deal"? Blaming the opposition party is fashionable. But if Trump can't get it done...isn't it time to hire someone who can? LOL

I would assume you are unaware that some bills cannot pass unless they have 60 Senate votes which we haven't had in a long time. Then we have to consider the backstabbers like McCain.

So don't tell me Republicans had total control over the federal government because that would be a lie.

No party has had control of the White House and congress with a super majority in 50 years so your argument is not relevant. Some of the most significant legislation has passed without control of government and a super majority. Of course those were the day when the two sides formed coalitions to pass legislation and there was no guarantee that members would vote the party line.

John McCain was not the only the maverick whose has refused to follow his party blindly. There have been many on both sides over the years. Without them, congress just becomes a rubber stamp for the leaders in each house. They are the last vestige of independent thinking and bipartisanship.

Obama had 60 votes to pass the ACA for a few weeks if memory serves. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
You're right about the rest though...

Obama paid a huge sum of money to several senators in order to pass that boondoggle. Without those bribes his legislation was doa

That is how governing has worked since we founded the nation. You give this; you get that. Instead of negotiating, you have a guy declaring a national emergency where there clearly isn't any and looting the treasury.

When people of both parties over a decade or so spout there is a problem, there is a problem. Then they do nothing about it. Just do not give any illegal any thing that the taxpayers are on the hook for. Negotiating with progressive socialists got us to the point where you will legalize pedophile and beastiaity was of living in the future.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Some of us simply don't care whether he lied or misrepresented what he ment. We just want the wall built.
I don't give a rats ass where the money comes from including my own taxes being raised to fund it.

So by "not caring" you're okay with democrats and liberals lying then right?

In most situations no. Republicans are just as bad.
But in this particular instance yes.

Ahh...okay.

I give you credit for admitting your blob is a liar. Most of your stripe can't bring themselves to admit even that.

They all lie. The only reason one lie is worse than any other is if it personally effects peoples lives.
The only people affected by a wall or lies about its funding on the southern border are people wishing to enter illegally and Democrats "feelings". Who in their right mind would care in the slightest about either of those?

Contrast that to lies like If you like your insurance you can keep it. Or your premiums will go down by 2500.00.

Those lies actually impacted peoples (AMERICANS) lives

You don’t think higher food prices and labor shortages are going to impact people’s lives?

Do you honestly believe your life will be one degree better next week or next month if there were a wall built tomorrow? If so...in what way?

Yes, not tomorrow or the next day obviously.
I have lost many job bids to contractors who hire from a pool of EASILY obtainable illegal labor.

A REAL wall would easily restrict that labor pool eventually to the point bad contractors like that would be forced to hire legal help thus restricting their ability to lowball jobs because of substandard wage payments