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WTF are you smoking? Who set the bar at 300,000K? 299,999K is “sub-par job growth” in you alternative universe?That happened six times under Obama. Can you link to your posts back then when you cheered?It's so nice to see a 6 figure jobs gain with a 3 handle. We should have had a few years at this rate, but Obabble felt that some people had earned enough money by now.
6 times during Obabble's Reign of Malaise means that 93.75% of his term saw sub-par job growth.
Not to mention, Trump’s hit the 300K mark in 7.6% of his term.
I've posted the analysis in the past. Obama's lack of a real recovery cost the economy MILLIONS of jobs. Take a look at Reagan's job creation vs. Obabble's . The latter's is atrocious considering the tee up after a recession. Trump is early in his terms, with the tax burden and regulatory changes just starting to have an impact.
Well what is the "real" unemployment number? You do know there are people out there looking for work but can't find any. What is TRUMP doing about them? LOL. What's the REAL unemployment number?Who’s crying? All I see are folks on the left making fun of folks on the right for trashing Obama’s good numbers as phony; where now suddenly, for some reason, those same numbers are real.Come on sealy plenty of lefty’s crying in this thread. When Obama was in office, the extreme right cried when good happened and now the extreme left is crying when good happens. Party over America is a sad reality.
Oh, the ol’ “they did it first” mentality. So you are just trolling, thanks for letting me know you aren’t serious.
What is Trump doing about this?
Most people in the U.S. are living in financially precarious circumstances. Half of all Americans have nothing put away for retirement and the vast majority of them have under $1,000 saved, total.
According to a 2016 GOBankingRates survey, 35 percent of all adults in the U.S. have only several hundred dollars in their savings accounts and 34 percent have zero. Only 15 percent have over $10,000 stashed away.
BTW, I am one of those 15%.
We are hiring and can't find qualified people, I don't know anyone that is out job hunting right now, but that could be just in our area, I am not sure.
As far as personal finances, that is every individuals responsibility, not the government. People tend to spend more than what they make.
The reason I bring these things up is that Republicans kept asking Americans if they were better off than they were 8 years ago. Well if they don't have any savings then they are no better off now than they were then. If Americans aren't saving that's not just because they aren't saving. It's because they aren't making enough. Consider my dad in 1975 made $13 at Ford Motor. That's $13 hr plus great healthcare benefits and a pension. Compare that to Walmart employees today making $10 hr and no benefits or terrible benefits.
Alls I'm saying is Trump has not made America great again.
And you can't look at this fact and say the problem is simply that Americans spend too much. That is what Republicans were saying when Bush was in office but then Obama got in office and suddenly Republicans were willing to admit that too many Americans aren't making enough money.
Why half of Americans can't come up with $400 in an emergency
You are clearly not making enough money if you can't come up with $400. It's not that you spend too much. Well it's that too but mostly it's you don't make enough $
LOLStill avoiding my post?I like how you totally avoided everything I posted. I guess that’s also part of your alternative universe?WTF are you smoking? Who set the bar at 300,000K? 299,999K is “sub-par job growth” in you alternative universe?
Not to mention, Trump’s hit the 300K mark in 7.6% of his term.
I've posted the analysis in the past. Obama's lack of a real recovery cost the economy MILLIONS of jobs. Take a look at Reagan's job creation vs. Obabble's . The latter's is atrocious considering the tee up after a recession. Trump is early in his terms, with the tax burden and regulatory changes just starting to have an impact.
At any rate, comparing recessions and their recoveries is like comparing people with cancer and their recoveries — everyone is different.
Obabble's fake recovery is the worst in modern history.
Here it is again... let’s see if you can address it this time...
WTF are you smoking? Who set the bar at 300,000K? 299,999K is “sub-par job growth” in you alternative universe?
Not to mention, Trump’s hit the 300K mark in 7.6% of his term.
Here you go: Reagan created enough jobs to keep every addition to the Civilian Population fully employed. Obabble employed only half. That's the difference between Pro Growth vs. Pro Government Control policies, bub.
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Still avoiding my post?I like how you totally avoided everything I posted. I guess that’s also part of your alternative universe?WTF are you smoking? Who set the bar at 300,000K? 299,999K is “sub-par job growth” in you alternative universe?
Not to mention, Trump’s hit the 300K mark in 7.6% of his term.
I've posted the analysis in the past. Obama's lack of a real recovery cost the economy MILLIONS of jobs. Take a look at Reagan's job creation vs. Obabble's . The latter's is atrocious considering the tee up after a recession. Trump is early in his terms, with the tax burden and regulatory changes just starting to have an impact.
At any rate, comparing recessions and their recoveries is like comparing people with cancer and their recoveries — everyone is different.
Obabble's fake recovery is the worst in modern history.
Here it is again... let’s see if you can address it this time...
WTF are you smoking? Who set the bar at 300,000K? 299,999K is “sub-par job growth” in you alternative universe?
Not to mention, Trump’s hit the 300K mark in 7.6% of his term.
Trump's "subpar growth" at 100% compared to Obama's July 2016 325k job growth.
LOLStill avoiding my post?I like how you totally avoided everything I posted. I guess that’s also part of your alternative universe?I've posted the analysis in the past. Obama's lack of a real recovery cost the economy MILLIONS of jobs. Take a look at Reagan's job creation vs. Obabble's . The latter's is atrocious considering the tee up after a recession. Trump is early in his terms, with the tax burden and regulatory changes just starting to have an impact.
At any rate, comparing recessions and their recoveries is like comparing people with cancer and their recoveries — everyone is different.
Obabble's fake recovery is the worst in modern history.
Here it is again... let’s see if you can address it this time...
WTF are you smoking? Who set the bar at 300,000K? 299,999K is “sub-par job growth” in you alternative universe?
Not to mention, Trump’s hit the 300K mark in 7.6% of his term.
Here you go: Reagan created enough jobs to keep every addition to the Civilian Population fully employed. Obabble employed only half. That's the difference between Pro Growth vs. Pro Government Control policies, bub.
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Now you’re comparing the labor force participation rate which is driven by demographics? That’s almost as rightarded as you’re idiotic claim that anything less than 300,000 jobs gained in a month is “sub par job growth.”
Reagan’s labor force was boosted by the womens’ lib movement. Obama’s was dinged by aging baby boomers. Neither president had anything to do with those factors. And Obama’s Recession was much deeper than Reagan’s and the economy wasn’t structurally broken in the 80’s like it was when Bush left office.
Tell us all your last original thought Poosti.Have you ever had an original thought?Hey Papa, notice this isn't a thread started by a lefty? When you find us in a thread started by a lefty claiming things aren't going well right now, let us know. Because that's what righties did all 8 years of Obama even though he had like 80 straight months of job growth.Since when is highlighting rightie hypocrisy, “trolling?”Oh, the ol’ “they did it first” mentality. So you are just trolling, thanks for letting me know you aren’t serious.
And who’s on the left here who’s not highlighting it? You never did answer that question....
Sorry Obama didn't give tax breaks corporations didn't need to corporations like Trump did. What do we have to give them next? And who will pay the taxes they no longer pay? Oh yea YOU!
I'm sorry where in the hell did I say the tax breaks were a good thing? We need less spending and higher taxes to get out of debt. I have said this for years and my taxes went down.
Because the millionaires and billionaires got big tax breaks eventually your state is going to need something and your governor is going to have to raise your taxes to pay for it. The reason they don't have any money is these tax breaks. This will eventually trickle down to you having to pay more for roads, infrastructure, schools, etc.
WTF are you smoking? Who set the bar at 300,000K? 299,999K is “sub-par job growth” in you alternative universe?That happened six times under Obama. Can you link to your posts back then when you cheered?It's so nice to see a 6 figure jobs gain with a 3 handle. We should have had a few years at this rate, but Obabble felt that some people had earned enough money by now.
6 times during Obabble's Reign of Malaise means that 93.75% of his term saw sub-par job growth.
Not to mention, Trump’s hit the 300K mark in 7.6% of his term.
I've posted the analysis in the past. Obama's lack of a real recovery cost the economy MILLIONS of jobs. Take a look at Reagan's job creation vs. Obabble's . The latter's is atrocious considering the tee up after a recession. Trump is early in his terms, with the tax burden and regulatory changes just starting to have an impact.Well what is the "real" unemployment number? You do know there are people out there looking for work but can't find any. What is TRUMP doing about them? LOL. What's the REAL unemployment number?Who’s crying? All I see are folks on the left making fun of folks on the right for trashing Obama’s good numbers as phony; where now suddenly, for some reason, those same numbers are real.
Oh, the ol’ “they did it first” mentality. So you are just trolling, thanks for letting me know you aren’t serious.
What is Trump doing about this?
Most people in the U.S. are living in financially precarious circumstances. Half of all Americans have nothing put away for retirement and the vast majority of them have under $1,000 saved, total.
According to a 2016 GOBankingRates survey, 35 percent of all adults in the U.S. have only several hundred dollars in their savings accounts and 34 percent have zero. Only 15 percent have over $10,000 stashed away.
BTW, I am one of those 15%.
We are hiring and can't find qualified people, I don't know anyone that is out job hunting right now, but that could be just in our area, I am not sure.
As far as personal finances, that is every individuals responsibility, not the government. People tend to spend more than what they make.
The reason I bring these things up is that Republicans kept asking Americans if they were better off than they were 8 years ago. Well if they don't have any savings then they are no better off now than they were then. If Americans aren't saving that's not just because they aren't saving. It's because they aren't making enough. Consider my dad in 1975 made $13 at Ford Motor. That's $13 hr plus great healthcare benefits and a pension. Compare that to Walmart employees today making $10 hr and no benefits or terrible benefits.
Alls I'm saying is Trump has not made America great again.
And you can't look at this fact and say the problem is simply that Americans spend too much. That is what Republicans were saying when Bush was in office but then Obama got in office and suddenly Republicans were willing to admit that too many Americans aren't making enough money.
Why half of Americans can't come up with $400 in an emergency
You are clearly not making enough money if you can't come up with $400. It's not that you spend too much. Well it's that too but mostly it's you don't make enough $
I'm better off than two years ago.
As far as people spending, we don't need to spend $200 on basketball shoes, we don't need 65 inch screens. If you can't afford it, don't buy it, save it. Comparing a job at Ford to Walmart is silly. Walmart would have been a $1.90 or whatever minimum wage was back then. I have always maintained Americans spend way too much and should save and invest.
Hey Papa, notice this isn't a thread started by a lefty? When you find us in a thread started by a lefty claiming things aren't going well right now, let us know. Because that's what righties did all 8 years of Obama even though he had like 80 straight months of job growth.Since when is highlighting rightie hypocrisy, “trolling?”Who’s crying? All I see are folks on the left making fun of folks on the right for trashing Obama’s good numbers as phony; where now suddenly, for some reason, those same numbers are real.
Oh, the ol’ “they did it first” mentality. So you are just trolling, thanks for letting me know you aren’t serious.
And who’s on the left here who’s not highlighting it? You never did answer that question....
Sorry Obama didn't give tax breaks corporations didn't need to corporations like Trump did. What do we have to give them next? And who will pay the taxes they no longer pay? Oh yea YOU!
I'm sorry where in the hell did I say the tax breaks were a good thing? We need less spending and higher taxes to get out of debt. I have said this for years and my taxes went down.
Because the millionaires and billionaires got big tax breaks eventually your state is going to need something and your governor is going to have to raise your taxes to pay for it. The reason they don't have any money is these tax breaks. This will eventually trickle down to you having to pay more for roads, infrastructure, schools, etc.
Dumbfuck, when did I say it was “yes?”No, ya dumbfuck. I want to know why the right doesn’t talk about it anymore.I haven't heard the right talk about the "real unemployment number" since Trump became president.Well what is the "real" unemployment number? You do know there are people out there looking for work but can't find any. What is TRUMP doing about them? LOL. What's the REAL unemployment number?
What is Trump doing about this?
Most people in the U.S. are living in financially precarious circumstances. Half of all Americans have nothing put away for retirement and the vast majority of them have under $1,000 saved, total.
According to a 2016 GOBankingRates survey, 35 percent of all adults in the U.S. have only several hundred dollars in their savings accounts and 34 percent have zero. Only 15 percent have over $10,000 stashed away.
BTW, I am one of those 15%.
So NOW after 8 years the lefties want to talk about the "real unemployment number".
Make up your mind, one minute it's yes, then it's no...dumbass.
Yes and the debt.I haven't heard the right talk about the "real unemployment number" since Trump became president.Well what is the "real" unemployment number? You do know there are people out there looking for work but can't find any. What is TRUMP doing about them? LOL. What's the REAL unemployment number?Who’s crying? All I see are folks on the left making fun of folks on the right for trashing Obama’s good numbers as phony; where now suddenly, for some reason, those same numbers are real.
Oh, the ol’ “they did it first” mentality. So you are just trolling, thanks for letting me know you aren’t serious.
What is Trump doing about this?
Most people in the U.S. are living in financially precarious circumstances. Half of all Americans have nothing put away for retirement and the vast majority of them have under $1,000 saved, total.
According to a 2016 GOBankingRates survey, 35 percent of all adults in the U.S. have only several hundred dollars in their savings accounts and 34 percent have zero. Only 15 percent have over $10,000 stashed away.
BTW, I am one of those 15%.
So NOW after 8 years the lefties want to talk about the "real unemployment number".
Do you notice we aren't attacking you guys about the debt? We should because you attacked us over that debt for 8 straight years. Anytime we showed you any good economic news you said, "have you seen the debt?" Well? Have you seen the debt? 2 years ago you said it was the biggest problem facing this nation and the sky was going to fall. Just admit you were playing politics and lying and we will move on.
Single most serious problem facing U.S. today?
In 2010 you guys were saying:
- By 2019, it's estimated the national debt will rise to about $23 trillion dollars - that's more than one-third of the gross domestic product of the entire world
Is this no longer true?
- At five percent interest, it will cost the taxpayers more than $1 trillion a year - without paying a single dime on the debt itself. Just interest.
Still avoiding my post?I like how you totally avoided everything I posted. I guess that’s also part of your alternative universe?I've posted the analysis in the past. Obama's lack of a real recovery cost the economy MILLIONS of jobs. Take a look at Reagan's job creation vs. Obabble's . The latter's is atrocious considering the tee up after a recession. Trump is early in his terms, with the tax burden and regulatory changes just starting to have an impact.
At any rate, comparing recessions and their recoveries is like comparing people with cancer and their recoveries — everyone is different.
Obabble's fake recovery is the worst in modern history.
Here it is again... let’s see if you can address it this time...
WTF are you smoking? Who set the bar at 300,000K? 299,999K is “sub-par job growth” in you alternative universe?
Not to mention, Trump’s hit the 300K mark in 7.6% of his term.
Trump's "subpar growth" at 100% compared to Obama's July 2016 325k job growth.
I'll post this again to help you see what a REAL recovery look like vs. the FAKE Obabble version in which the LFPR craters and people go on disability instead of getting jobs.
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Moron, that's household data. There's a reason when jobs gained are discussed, payroll data is referenced. Just open the data you used and look at what it says...Still avoiding my post?I like how you totally avoided everything I posted. I guess that’s also part of your alternative universe?I've posted the analysis in the past. Obama's lack of a real recovery cost the economy MILLIONS of jobs. Take a look at Reagan's job creation vs. Obabble's . The latter's is atrocious considering the tee up after a recession. Trump is early in his terms, with the tax burden and regulatory changes just starting to have an impact.
At any rate, comparing recessions and their recoveries is like comparing people with cancer and their recoveries — everyone is different.
Obabble's fake recovery is the worst in modern history.
Here it is again... let’s see if you can address it this time...
WTF are you smoking? Who set the bar at 300,000K? 299,999K is “sub-par job growth” in you alternative universe?
Not to mention, Trump’s hit the 300K mark in 7.6% of his term.
Trump's "subpar growth" at 100% compared to Obama's July 2016 325k job growth.
I'll post this again to help you see what a REAL recovery look like vs. a FAKE Obabble in which the LFPR craters and people go on disability instead of getting jobs.
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You Hillary panty-sniffers aren't much better.Still avoiding my post?I like how you totally avoided everything I posted. I guess that’s also part of your alternative universe?
At any rate, comparing recessions and their recoveries is like comparing people with cancer and their recoveries — everyone is different.
Obabble's fake recovery is the worst in modern history.
Here it is again... let’s see if you can address it this time...
WTF are you smoking? Who set the bar at 300,000K? 299,999K is “sub-par job growth” in you alternative universe?
Not to mention, Trump’s hit the 300K mark in 7.6% of his term.
Trump's "subpar growth" at 100% compared to Obama's July 2016 325k job growth.
I'll post this again to help you see what a REAL recovery look like vs. the FAKE Obabble version in which the LFPR craters and people go on disability instead of getting jobs.
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...So you are saying Trump is doing good because...Reagan?
Trumpanzees definetly not so good at basic logic.
LOLOLLOLStill avoiding my post?I like how you totally avoided everything I posted. I guess that’s also part of your alternative universe?
At any rate, comparing recessions and their recoveries is like comparing people with cancer and their recoveries — everyone is different.
Obabble's fake recovery is the worst in modern history.
Here it is again... let’s see if you can address it this time...
WTF are you smoking? Who set the bar at 300,000K? 299,999K is “sub-par job growth” in you alternative universe?
Not to mention, Trump’s hit the 300K mark in 7.6% of his term.
Here you go: Reagan created enough jobs to keep every addition to the Civilian Population fully employed. Obabble employed only half. That's the difference between Pro Growth vs. Pro Government Control policies, bub.
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Now you’re comparing the labor force participation rate which is driven by demographics? That’s almost as rightarded as you’re idiotic claim that anything less than 300,000 jobs gained in a month is “sub par job growth.”
Reagan’s labor force was boosted by the womens’ lib movement. Obama’s was dinged by aging baby boomers. Neither president had anything to do with those factors. And Obama’s Recession was much deeper than Reagan’s and the economy wasn’t structurally broken in the 80’s like it was when Bush left office.
I can nail you on the demographics myth as well. The declines are in the younger, not the older cohorts, bub.
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Civilian labor force participation rate by age, sex, race, and ethnicity
The real number is that 172 million people are not working under Fat DonnieI haven't heard the right talk about the "real unemployment number" since Trump became president.Well what is the "real" unemployment number? You do know there are people out there looking for work but can't find any. What is TRUMP doing about them? LOL. What's the REAL unemployment number?Who’s crying? All I see are folks on the left making fun of folks on the right for trashing Obama’s good numbers as phony; where now suddenly, for some reason, those same numbers are real.Come on sealy plenty of lefty’s crying in this thread. When Obama was in office, the extreme right cried when good happened and now the extreme left is crying when good happens. Party over America is a sad reality.
Oh, the ol’ “they did it first” mentality. So you are just trolling, thanks for letting me know you aren’t serious.
What is Trump doing about this?
Most people in the U.S. are living in financially precarious circumstances. Half of all Americans have nothing put away for retirement and the vast majority of them have under $1,000 saved, total.
According to a 2016 GOBankingRates survey, 35 percent of all adults in the U.S. have only several hundred dollars in their savings accounts and 34 percent have zero. Only 15 percent have over $10,000 stashed away.
BTW, I am one of those 15%.
So NOW after 8 years the lefties want to talk about the "real unemployment number".
Dumbfuck, this is me, still not talking about the labor force participation rate. This is me still talking about how hypocritical righties are because they no longer do.Dumbfuck, when did I say it was “yes?”No, ya dumbfuck. I want to know why the right doesn’t talk about it anymore.I haven't heard the right talk about the "real unemployment number" since Trump became president.
So NOW after 8 years the lefties want to talk about the "real unemployment number".
Make up your mind, one minute it's yes, then it's no...dumbass.
Well, evidently you want to talk about it now, certainly didn't want to talk about it when big ears was in office....dumbass.
Reagan? No, he tripled it.Yes and the debt.I haven't heard the right talk about the "real unemployment number" since Trump became president.Well what is the "real" unemployment number? You do know there are people out there looking for work but can't find any. What is TRUMP doing about them? LOL. What's the REAL unemployment number?Oh, the ol’ “they did it first” mentality. So you are just trolling, thanks for letting me know you aren’t serious.
What is Trump doing about this?
Most people in the U.S. are living in financially precarious circumstances. Half of all Americans have nothing put away for retirement and the vast majority of them have under $1,000 saved, total.
According to a 2016 GOBankingRates survey, 35 percent of all adults in the U.S. have only several hundred dollars in their savings accounts and 34 percent have zero. Only 15 percent have over $10,000 stashed away.
BTW, I am one of those 15%.
So NOW after 8 years the lefties want to talk about the "real unemployment number".
Do you notice we aren't attacking you guys about the debt? We should because you attacked us over that debt for 8 straight years. Anytime we showed you any good economic news you said, "have you seen the debt?" Well? Have you seen the debt? 2 years ago you said it was the biggest problem facing this nation and the sky was going to fall. Just admit you were playing politics and lying and we will move on.
Single most serious problem facing U.S. today?
In 2010 you guys were saying:
- By 2019, it's estimated the national debt will rise to about $23 trillion dollars - that's more than one-third of the gross domestic product of the entire world
Is this no longer true?
- At five percent interest, it will cost the taxpayers more than $1 trillion a year - without paying a single dime on the debt itself. Just interest.
Sigh, another bright one. Ok, who doubled the debt?
Moron, that's household data. There's a reason when jobs gained are discussed, payroll data is referenced. Just open the data you used and look at what it says...Still avoiding my post?I like how you totally avoided everything I posted. I guess that’s also part of your alternative universe?
At any rate, comparing recessions and their recoveries is like comparing people with cancer and their recoveries — everyone is different.
Obabble's fake recovery is the worst in modern history.
Here it is again... let’s see if you can address it this time...
WTF are you smoking? Who set the bar at 300,000K? 299,999K is “sub-par job growth” in you alternative universe?
Not to mention, Trump’s hit the 300K mark in 7.6% of his term.
Trump's "subpar growth" at 100% compared to Obama's July 2016 325k job growth.
I'll post this again to help you see what a REAL recovery look like vs. a FAKE Obabble in which the LFPR craters and people go on disability instead of getting jobs.
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1 : Data affected by changes in population controls.
And what does the BLS say about their two surveys...?
Both surveys are needed for a complete picture of the labor market.
Furthermore, you're completely ignoring the depth of the two recessions...
7/81-11/83: 2,707,000 jobs lost
12/07-6/09: 7,285,000 jobs lost
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
And lastly, The unemployment rate...
Reagan: 7.5% => 5.4% ... a 2.1 point drop, 28% decrease
Obama: 7.8% => 4.8% ... a 3.0 point drop, 39% decrease
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
And that was with Obama inheriting the worst recession since the Great Depression.
Says who, you??Moron, that's household data. There's a reason when jobs gained are discussed, payroll data is referenced. Just open the data you used and look at what it says...Still avoiding my post?Obabble's fake recovery is the worst in modern history.
Here it is again... let’s see if you can address it this time...
WTF are you smoking? Who set the bar at 300,000K? 299,999K is “sub-par job growth” in you alternative universe?
Not to mention, Trump’s hit the 300K mark in 7.6% of his term.
Trump's "subpar growth" at 100% compared to Obama's July 2016 325k job growth.
I'll post this again to help you see what a REAL recovery look like vs. a FAKE Obabble in which the LFPR craters and people go on disability instead of getting jobs.
View attachment 181554
1 : Data affected by changes in population controls.
And what does the BLS say about their two surveys...?
Both surveys are needed for a complete picture of the labor market.
Furthermore, you're completely ignoring the depth of the two recessions...
7/81-11/83: 2,707,000 jobs lost
12/07-6/09: 7,285,000 jobs lost
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
And lastly, The unemployment rate...
Reagan: 7.5% => 5.4% ... a 2.1 point drop, 28% decrease
Obama: 7.8% => 4.8% ... a 3.0 point drop, 39% decrease
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
And that was with Obama inheriting the worst recession since the Great Depression.
In which case, the rebound for Obabble should have been stratospheric.
But it wasn't because he couldn't find a shovel ready job if it whacked him over the head.
