33 Uncomfortable Questions for Progressives (aka Leftists)

[Saigon]

Cecile -

I think what Harry means there is that you have questioned progressive beliefs; and yet very few of the beliefs questioned are things any progressive would believe in.

Most are just cliches.

Let's switch it around - imagine if a leftwing poster claimed 'It makes conservative posters uncomfortable if I ask them why they think black people should be paid less than white people.'

Most Conservatives do not believe black people should be paid less than white people; hence it isn't a very pertinant question.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why do conservatives insist that immigrants have papers,

but that they should not be made to show them when they buy an assault rifle?

By all means, make aliens show their papers to buy an assault rifle. Citizens have to show theirs, so why not aliens?

The gun lobby doesn't want anyone to have to 'show their papers' to buy a gun, remember?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why do rightwing idiots like the OP think that they can speak for every liberal, and assign their versions of what they think liberals believe to every liberal?

Why do some liberals think they can do the same thing with conservatives?

So the OP is nothing more than a rightwing version of some leftwing idiots...

...got it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why do rightwing idiots like the OP think that they can speak for every liberal, and assign their versions of what they think liberals believe to every liberal?

probably for the same reasons that leftwing idiots think that they can speak for every conservative, and assign their versions of what they think conservatives believe to every conservative......like Dean and Dudley do.....

So you're saying that the author of this thread is just the rightwing version of the leftwingers you consider to be idiots.

whoa, that's pretty harsh, but kudos for your honesty.

 

[Sallow]

Things that make you go .

1. Why is it fine that Americans need to prove to the IRS that they have health insurance, but it’s wrong to ask immigrants if they are in the country legally?

2. Why is it okay if a welfare state office asks people for ID before giving them a check, but it’s “racist” to ask people to show IDs before voting for politicians who send out those checks?

3. Why is it right for people who produce nothing to dictate the fortunes of those who work for a living?

4. Is it wrong for someone who puts no effort into life to make a living off of those who have to work hard?

5. Why do people have to pay the state for their very right to live? (In other words, why are there “income” taxes, when there used to be taxes only on profits?)

6. If all cultures are equal, should all Americans value the abuse of women in many Muslim cultures, the abuse of workers in China, or the ill-treatment of gays in Russia?

7. If the only thing that a nation needed for the people to be happy was for the government to spend money and to buy its own debt, how come other countries around the globe didn’t figure that out earlier?

8. Is the way to alleviate poverty to get more people doing productive jobs, or to take more money from people who are already working who can create jobs?

9. Does it help or harm an economy to create unproductive jobs?

10. If the “war on poverty” continues for decades with no improvement, is throwing more money at the problem still the solution?

11. If the almost $3.3 trillion in debt accumulated under Bush was “irresponsible” and “unpatriotic,” is Obama responsible and patriotic for adding $6 trillion?

12. Can a nation be fundamentally racist when there the president is black and the American people watch sports, movies and TV shows featuring blacks?

13. Maybe the reason for poverty in inner cities is not because of capitalism but because of the lack of free market enterprise?

14. Why does the U.S. have a Department of Homeland Security that spies on American websites, but lets millions of illegal immigrants overstay their visas and cross the borders?

15. Why does the NSA illegally spy on millions of Americans, but can’t alert authorities of imminent terrorist attacks like the Boston bombing, even when the government is warned about the suspects?

16. Why are we creating a massive surveillance state to protect us from “terrorism,” when the Obama administration won’t even call the mass murder of U.S. soldiers at Ft. Hood by a confessed jihadist “terrorism”?

17. Maybe the nations worldwide that were poor before the U.S. existed and are still poor suffer because they don’t have economic freedom, and not because America is exploiting them?

18. Perhaps the reason the U.S. has been relatively wealthy is because it has been the most innovative, productive and adventurous nation in history, and not because it stole big screen TVs, computers, Internet wi-fi and smartphones from people?

19. Has the U.S. military liberated millions from tyranny and oppression or is it imposing tyranny and oppression on foreign peoples?

20. How much government debt is too much? Can the government accrue tens of trillions in future debt without negative consequences for people?

21. Do people generally have the right to determine the outcomes of their own lives? Or do Washington politicians and bureaucrats (i.e. other people) have the right to determine them?

22. Why are millionaire corporate CEOs railed against, but millionaire Hollywood actors and pop singers are praised and idolized?

23. Why is the GOP the “party of the rich” when there are just as many rich Democrat politicians as Republicans, and the wealthiest counties in the nation tend to vote Democratic?

24. Why is it that some of the biggest corporations in the nation (Microsoft, GE, Google) donate the majority of their political campaign contributions to the Democrat Party?

25. Why do the largest corporate media outlets in the nation support a political party that has continuously railed against corporations?

26. Why is it that a president who has praised wealth redistribution has seen through an economy where, as he admitted, 95% of the gains have gone to the top 1%?

27. Why Is Washington D.C. all of a sudden one of the richest areas in the nation? What valuable goods and services does that region produce?

28. Can power that accrues in a centralized government be used for evil as well as good? What does history say about this topic?

29. Is it really “progressive” to return to a state of affairs that America was founded to protect people against?

30. How come all of the “compassionate” programs of Democrat-dominated cities across the nation seem to lead only to worsening poverty, drug use and crime?

31. If democracy means “rule of the people,” why does the “Democratic Party” keep giving power to 536 individuals to decide the health, education, energy, transportation, retirement, employment, and income choices for hundreds of millions of people?

32. If Obamacare is so great, how come Congressmen who passed the bill want no part of it? (Even though they make at least $174,000 a year, most are taking federal subsidies to pay for their insurance plans.)

33. Maybe the reason the U.S. is in a bad spot is because many people don’t think through the logical consequences of their political positions?

- Thanks to Independent Journal

Ooohhh..goody a quiz.

One that she doesn't want answered either..



1. First off, the IRS is under a "Don't Ask/Don't Tell" rule about the ACA. Second, this is a non-sequitur as one thing has nothing to do with the other. Third? It's the height of stupidity to foster an underground economy in this country where you have over a million people living under the radar, not paying taxes, using services and not reporting crimes.

2. Because you can't use the same ID for both. That's why. In any case, you have to register for the vote and THEN show a special type of ID. And it's not free. As in a poll tax. Which is un-constitutional.

3. Depends on what you mean by "producing nothing". And most of the people who "made" their fortunes, did so by luck (Being born into right families) and questionable and possibly illegal means. They also did so by utilizing government services we all pay for and the backs of others.

4. Depends again what your benchmarks for "hard work" and "doing nothing" are.. When I moved furniture I did harder physical labor than I do now that I work in Information Technology. I make far more now. I've seen cleaning people do harder physical labor than a CEO in a fortune 500 company yet they'll make far less. And CEO's sometimes wind up costing the company in very real money when they screw up..with no consequences. Take Jamie Dimon. Lost 9 Billion dollars at JP Morgan. He made 23 million dollars in 2012.

5. Think of it as "rent".

6. Because Muslim Countries, China and Russia are not a part of the United States. And there is protest in this country of those behaviors..otherwise you wouldn't know about it.

7. Who says that's going to make people happy? The right wing? Having some debt is actually healthy. It allows a country to build infrastructure, employ people and get things done. It's also good for banks and financial institutions.

8. As both the Reagan administration and the Bush administration proved, cutting taxes on wealthy people doesn't create jobs. They didn't get wealthy through altruism. If anything it reduces jobs, because they use their wealth to buy off politicians that allow them to merge companies and off shore employment.

9. It helps the economy vastly to create jobs like fireman, police and other needful positions. Building infrastructure is also a great way to stimulate the economy and keep it going.

10. The "War on Poverty" has been a huge success in the country. FDR's new deal created a Middle Class where there was none before. The biggest set backs were when Conservatives put their policies into practice like during the Reagan administration and the Bush administration. Real income has been flatlining for the middle class while growing wildly for the 1%.

11. To answer this question we have to start with the Truth. Most of the debt Obama is paying, was accumulated during the Bush administration with 2 wars. He put the that debt on a separate track called Emergency Supplemental Spending. Obama put that spending back in the general budget and began to pay it down. Additionally Bush started the Department of Homeland Security and the Medicare drug benefit.

12. Of course. And it's been showing it's racism and some profound and rather embarrassing ways. The first black President was made to show his birth Certificate. Both things are a first. And that's just the tip of the ice berg.

13. When did the Free Market end?

14. Homeland security was set up by the Bush administration. This might have been an appropriate question for the right wingers.

15. The bombers were Chechen and the warnings came from Russia who have a huge problem with these people. They warn about all Chechens, who have never shown any hostility toward America and in fact apologized for the bombings they had nothing to do with.

16. The shooter at Fort Hood has been sentenced to death. Is the concern here about semantics or how these events are prosecuted?

17. It's a little of both.

18. If this were a question then it could be answered. It's not.

19. Both. Depends on what nation you are talking about.

20. Perhaps you should go into the real negative impact the debt has had. Thus far all the consequences this nation has suffered has been from the private sector.

21. People have the right to determine their own outcomes. Washington should be there to provide the means to get the best outcomes.

22. Actors and singers rarely if ever bring the lives of millions of people, economic ruin.

23. You answered your own question. Republicans concentrate the wealth, Democrats spread it.

24. See 23.

25. See 23.

26. In a nutshell? Obama had to save those people to save the economy.

27. Most of the people that serve in Congress are millionaires. Is that so hard to understand?

28. History shows both.

29. Since it's not really doing that..this question makes no sense. America fought against a Monarchy.

30. The Economy began to take a "nose dive" under Nixon. Carter undid Nixon's crap and Reagan went ahead and really fucked things up. It's been a dog fight ever since.

31. Because it's in the Constitution. We aren't a direct Democracy. But a Republican one.

32. Part of Obamacare allows you to keep the healthcare you already have.

33. Absolutely. Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush's political decisions have had adverse effects that are still with us today.


There..all answered.

 

[Seawytch]

Notice that liberals support all the usual police state measures like national ID, but they adamantly oppose requiring ID to vote, and they opposed the AZ law allowing local police to enforce immigration law.

Wrong. Liberals support the ID first, asking for it second instead of the other way around. Give everyone the ID, then you can require it for voting, buying a gun, whatever.

AZ was not enforcing immigration law, they decided they were going to make their own...which is solely the responsibility of the Federal Government. There was that whole racial profiling thing in AZ too.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Why do rightwing idiots like the OP think that they can speak for every liberal, and assign their versions of what they think liberals believe to every liberal?

probably for the same reasons that leftwing idiots think that they can speak for every conservative, and assign their versions of what they think conservatives believe to every conservative......like Dean and Dudley do.....

I don't recall having "spoken" for anyone. Pretty sure I simply listed questions and observed that they make progressives uncomfortable.

What they are thinking that MAKES these questions uncomfortable is something I'm not being paid enough to figure out.

you are taking it up with the wrong person....

 

[Toro]

Things that make you go .

1. Why is it fine that Americans need to prove to the IRS that they have health insurance, but it’s wrong to ask immigrants if they are in the country legally?

2. Why is it okay if a welfare state office asks people for ID before giving them a check, but it’s “racist” to ask people to show IDs before voting for politicians who send out those checks?

3. Why is it right for people who produce nothing to dictate the fortunes of those who work for a living?

4. Is it wrong for someone who puts no effort into life to make a living off of those who have to work hard?

5. Why do people have to pay the state for their very right to live? (In other words, why are there “income” taxes, when there used to be taxes only on profits?)

6. If all cultures are equal, should all Americans value the abuse of women in many Muslim cultures, the abuse of workers in China, or the ill-treatment of gays in Russia?

7. If the only thing that a nation needed for the people to be happy was for the government to spend money and to buy its own debt, how come other countries around the globe didn’t figure that out earlier?

8. Is the way to alleviate poverty to get more people doing productive jobs, or to take more money from people who are already working who can create jobs?

9. Does it help or harm an economy to create unproductive jobs?

10. If the “war on poverty” continues for decades with no improvement, is throwing more money at the problem still the solution?

11. If the almost $3.3 trillion in debt accumulated under Bush was “irresponsible” and “unpatriotic,” is Obama responsible and patriotic for adding $6 trillion?

12. Can a nation be fundamentally racist when there the president is black and the American people watch sports, movies and TV shows featuring blacks?

13. Maybe the reason for poverty in inner cities is not because of capitalism but because of the lack of free market enterprise?

14. Why does the U.S. have a Department of Homeland Security that spies on American websites, but lets millions of illegal immigrants overstay their visas and cross the borders?

15. Why does the NSA illegally spy on millions of Americans, but can’t alert authorities of imminent terrorist attacks like the Boston bombing, even when the government is warned about the suspects?

16. Why are we creating a massive surveillance state to protect us from “terrorism,” when the Obama administration won’t even call the mass murder of U.S. soldiers at Ft. Hood by a confessed jihadist “terrorism”?

17. Maybe the nations worldwide that were poor before the U.S. existed and are still poor suffer because they don’t have economic freedom, and not because America is exploiting them?

18. Perhaps the reason the U.S. has been relatively wealthy is because it has been the most innovative, productive and adventurous nation in history, and not because it stole big screen TVs, computers, Internet wi-fi and smartphones from people?

19. Has the U.S. military liberated millions from tyranny and oppression or is it imposing tyranny and oppression on foreign peoples?

20. How much government debt is too much? Can the government accrue tens of trillions in future debt without negative consequences for people?

21. Do people generally have the right to determine the outcomes of their own lives? Or do Washington politicians and bureaucrats (i.e. other people) have the right to determine them?

22. Why are millionaire corporate CEOs railed against, but millionaire Hollywood actors and pop singers are praised and idolized?

23. Why is the GOP the “party of the rich” when there are just as many rich Democrat politicians as Republicans, and the wealthiest counties in the nation tend to vote Democratic?

24. Why is it that some of the biggest corporations in the nation (Microsoft, GE, Google) donate the majority of their political campaign contributions to the Democrat Party?

25. Why do the largest corporate media outlets in the nation support a political party that has continuously railed against corporations?

26. Why is it that a president who has praised wealth redistribution has seen through an economy where, as he admitted, 95% of the gains have gone to the top 1%?

27. Why Is Washington D.C. all of a sudden one of the richest areas in the nation? What valuable goods and services does that region produce?

28. Can power that accrues in a centralized government be used for evil as well as good? What does history say about this topic?

29. Is it really “progressive” to return to a state of affairs that America was founded to protect people against?

30. How come all of the “compassionate” programs of Democrat-dominated cities across the nation seem to lead only to worsening poverty, drug use and crime?

31. If democracy means “rule of the people,” why does the “Democratic Party” keep giving power to 536 individuals to decide the health, education, energy, transportation, retirement, employment, and income choices for hundreds of millions of people?

32. If Obamacare is so great, how come Congressmen who passed the bill want no part of it? (Even though they make at least $174,000 a year, most are taking federal subsidies to pay for their insurance plans.)

33. Maybe the reason the U.S. is in a bad spot is because many people don’t think through the logical consequences of their political positions?

- Thanks to Independent Journal

Ooohhh..goody a quiz.

One that she doesn't want answered either..



1. First off, the IRS is under a "Don't Ask/Don't Tell" rule about the ACA. Second, this is a non-sequitur as one thing has nothing to do with the other. Third? It's the height of stupidity to foster an underground economy in this country where you have over a million people living under the radar, not paying taxes, using services and not reporting crimes.

2. Because you can't use the same ID for both. That's why. In any case, you have to register for the vote and THEN show a special type of ID. And it's not free. As in a poll tax. Which is un-constitutional.

3. Depends on what you mean by "producing nothing". And most of the people who "made" their fortunes, did so by luck (Being born into right families) and questionable and possibly illegal means. They also did so by utilizing government services we all pay for and the backs of others.

4. Depends again what your benchmarks for "hard work" and "doing nothing" are.. When I moved furniture I did harder physical labor than I do now that I work in Information Technology. I make far more now. I've seen cleaning people do harder physical labor than a CEO in a fortune 500 company yet they'll make far less. And CEO's sometimes wind up costing the company in very real money when they screw up..with no consequences. Take Jamie Dimon. Lost 9 Billion dollars at JP Morgan. He made 23 million dollars in 2012.

5. Think of it as "rent".

6. Because Muslim Countries, China and Russia are not a part of the United States. And there is protest in this country of those behaviors..otherwise you wouldn't know about it.

7. Who says that's going to make people happy? The right wing? Having some debt is actually healthy. It allows a country to build infrastructure, employ people and get things done. It's also good for banks and financial institutions.

8. As both the Reagan administration and the Bush administration proved, cutting taxes on wealthy people doesn't create jobs. They didn't get wealthy through altruism. If anything it reduces jobs, because they use their wealth to buy off politicians that allow them to merge companies and off shore employment.

9. It helps the economy vastly to create jobs like fireman, police and other needful positions. Building infrastructure is also a great way to stimulate the economy and keep it going.

10. The "War on Poverty" has been a huge success in the country. FDR's new deal created a Middle Class where there was none before. The biggest set backs were when Conservatives put their policies into practice like during the Reagan administration and the Bush administration. Real income has been flatlining for the middle class while growing wildly for the 1%.

11. To answer this question we have to start with the Truth. Most of the debt Obama is paying, was accumulated during the Bush administration with 2 wars. He put the that debt on a separate track called Emergency Supplemental Spending. Obama put that spending back in the general budget and began to pay it down. Additionally Bush started the Department of Homeland Security and the Medicare drug benefit.

12. Of course. And it's been showing it's racism and some profound and rather embarrassing ways. The first black President was made to show his birth Certificate. Both things are a first. And that's just the tip of the ice berg.

13. When did the Free Market end?

14. Homeland security was set up by the Bush administration. This might have been an appropriate question for the right wingers.

15. The bombers were Chechen and the warnings came from Russia who have a huge problem with these people. They warn about all Chechens, who have never shown any hostility toward America and in fact apologized for the bombings they had nothing to do with.

16. The shooter at Fort Hood has been sentenced to death. Is the concern here about semantics or how these events are prosecuted?

17. It's a little of both.

18. If this were a question then it could be answered. It's not.

19. Both. Depends on what nation you are talking about.

20. Perhaps you should go into the real negative impact the debt has had. Thus far all the consequences this nation has suffered has been from the private sector.

21. People have the right to determine their own outcomes. Washington should be there to provide the means to get the best outcomes.

22. Actors and singers rarely if ever bring the lives of millions of people, economic ruin.

23. You answered your own question. Republicans concentrate the wealth, Democrats spread it.

24. See 23.

25. See 23.

26. In a nutshell? Obama had to save those people to save the economy.

27. Most of the people that serve in Congress are millionaires. Is that so hard to understand?

28. History shows both.

29. Since it's not really doing that..this question makes no sense. America fought against a Monarchy.

30. The Economy began to take a "nose dive" under Nixon. Carter undid Nixon's crap and Reagan went ahead and really fucked things up. It's been a dog fight ever since.

31. Because it's in the Constitution. We aren't a direct Democracy. But a Republican one.

32. Part of Obamacare allows you to keep the healthcare you already have.

33. Absolutely. Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush's political decisions have had adverse effects that are still with us today.


There..all answered.

You're not actually supposed to give answers.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Why do rightwing idiots like the OP think that they can speak for every liberal, and assign their versions of what they think liberals believe to every liberal?

probably for the same reasons that leftwing idiots think that they can speak for every conservative, and assign their versions of what they think conservatives believe to every conservative......like Dean and Dudley do.....

So you're saying that the author of this thread is just the rightwing version of the leftwingers you consider to be idiots.

whoa, that's pretty harsh, but kudos for your honesty.

Cecilie was asking questions.....she did not say this is how all liberals think....but thanks for your dishonesty....

 

[Two Thumbs]

Well these are stupid talking point questions....

I will now translate from liberaeez into english.

"I'm a gutless coward that refuses to face the truth of the filth that I support."

 

[Harry Dresden]

Ooohhh..goody a quiz.

One that she doesn't want answered either..



1. First off, the IRS is under a "Don't Ask/Don't Tell" rule about the ACA. Second, this is a non-sequitur as one thing has nothing to do with the other. Third? It's the height of stupidity to foster an underground economy in this country where you have over a million people living under the radar, not paying taxes, using services and not reporting crimes.

2. Because you can't use the same ID for both. That's why. In any case, you have to register for the vote and THEN show a special type of ID. And it's not free. As in a poll tax. Which is un-constitutional.

3. Depends on what you mean by "producing nothing". And most of the people who "made" their fortunes, did so by luck (Being born into right families) and questionable and possibly illegal means. They also did so by utilizing government services we all pay for and the backs of others.

4. Depends again what your benchmarks for "hard work" and "doing nothing" are.. When I moved furniture I did harder physical labor than I do now that I work in Information Technology. I make far more now. I've seen cleaning people do harder physical labor than a CEO in a fortune 500 company yet they'll make far less. And CEO's sometimes wind up costing the company in very real money when they screw up..with no consequences. Take Jamie Dimon. Lost 9 Billion dollars at JP Morgan. He made 23 million dollars in 2012.

5. Think of it as "rent".

6. Because Muslim Countries, China and Russia are not a part of the United States. And there is protest in this country of those behaviors..otherwise you wouldn't know about it.

7. Who says that's going to make people happy? The right wing? Having some debt is actually healthy. It allows a country to build infrastructure, employ people and get things done. It's also good for banks and financial institutions.

8. As both the Reagan administration and the Bush administration proved, cutting taxes on wealthy people doesn't create jobs. They didn't get wealthy through altruism. If anything it reduces jobs, because they use their wealth to buy off politicians that allow them to merge companies and off shore employment.

9. It helps the economy vastly to create jobs like fireman, police and other needful positions. Building infrastructure is also a great way to stimulate the economy and keep it going.

10. The "War on Poverty" has been a huge success in the country. FDR's new deal created a Middle Class where there was none before. The biggest set backs were when Conservatives put their policies into practice like during the Reagan administration and the Bush administration. Real income has been flatlining for the middle class while growing wildly for the 1%.

11. To answer this question we have to start with the Truth. Most of the debt Obama is paying, was accumulated during the Bush administration with 2 wars. He put the that debt on a separate track called Emergency Supplemental Spending. Obama put that spending back in the general budget and began to pay it down. Additionally Bush started the Department of Homeland Security and the Medicare drug benefit.

12. Of course. And it's been showing it's racism and some profound and rather embarrassing ways. The first black President was made to show his birth Certificate. Both things are a first. And that's just the tip of the ice berg.

13. When did the Free Market end?

14. Homeland security was set up by the Bush administration. This might have been an appropriate question for the right wingers.

15. The bombers were Chechen and the warnings came from Russia who have a huge problem with these people. They warn about all Chechens, who have never shown any hostility toward America and in fact apologized for the bombings they had nothing to do with.

16. The shooter at Fort Hood has been sentenced to death. Is the concern here about semantics or how these events are prosecuted?

17. It's a little of both.

18. If this were a question then it could be answered. It's not.

19. Both. Depends on what nation you are talking about.

20. Perhaps you should go into the real negative impact the debt has had. Thus far all the consequences this nation has suffered has been from the private sector.

21. People have the right to determine their own outcomes. Washington should be there to provide the means to get the best outcomes.

22. Actors and singers rarely if ever bring the lives of millions of people, economic ruin.

23. You answered your own question. Republicans concentrate the wealth, Democrats spread it.

24. See 23.

25. See 23.

26. In a nutshell? Obama had to save those people to save the economy.

27. Most of the people that serve in Congress are millionaires. Is that so hard to understand?

28. History shows both.

29. Since it's not really doing that..this question makes no sense. America fought against a Monarchy.

30. The Economy began to take a "nose dive" under Nixon. Carter undid Nixon's crap and Reagan went ahead and really fucked things up. It's been a dog fight ever since.

31. Because it's in the Constitution. We aren't a direct Democracy. But a Republican one.

32. Part of Obamacare allows you to keep the healthcare you already have.

33. Absolutely. Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush's political decisions have had adverse effects that are still with us today.


There..all answered.

2. Because you can't use the same ID for both. That's why. In any case, you have to register for the vote and THEN show a special type of ID.

what SPECIAL ID Sallow?....i used my Drivers License....what is so special about that?...

 

[Seawytch]

probably for the same reasons that leftwing idiots think that they can speak for every conservative, and assign their versions of what they think conservatives believe to every conservative......like Dean and Dudley do.....

So you're saying that the author of this thread is just the rightwing version of the leftwingers you consider to be idiots.

whoa, that's pretty harsh, but kudos for your honesty.

Cecilie was asking questions.....she did not say this is how all liberals think....but thanks for your dishonesty....

No actually "she" didn't ask the questions she just took them from a website and posted them (she gave very small credit at the end of the list...reduced the font size of the source....perhaps to make you think she wrote it, I dunno)

When someone responded to them, she couldn't back up the original list.

She used a blanket statement as though these "uncomfortable questions" applied to all liberals so wouldn't that translate into her (okay, the original author of the list) believing it is how all liberals think?

 

[Two Thumbs]

Things that make you go .

1. Why is it fine that Americans need to prove to the IRS that they have health insurance, but it’s wrong to ask immigrants if they are in the country legally?

2. Why is it okay if a welfare state office asks people for ID before giving them a check, but it’s “racist” to ask people to show IDs before voting for politicians who send out those checks?

3. Why is it right for people who produce nothing to dictate the fortunes of those who work for a living?

4. Is it wrong for someone who puts no effort into life to make a living off of those who have to work hard?

5. Why do people have to pay the state for their very right to live? (In other words, why are there “income” taxes, when there used to be taxes only on profits?)

6. If all cultures are equal, should all Americans value the abuse of women in many Muslim cultures, the abuse of workers in China, or the ill-treatment of gays in Russia?

7. If the only thing that a nation needed for the people to be happy was for the government to spend money and to buy its own debt, how come other countries around the globe didn’t figure that out earlier?

8. Is the way to alleviate poverty to get more people doing productive jobs, or to take more money from people who are already working who can create jobs?

9. Does it help or harm an economy to create unproductive jobs?

10. If the “war on poverty” continues for decades with no improvement, is throwing more money at the problem still the solution?

11. If the almost $3.3 trillion in debt accumulated under Bush was “irresponsible” and “unpatriotic,” is Obama responsible and patriotic for adding $6 trillion?

12. Can a nation be fundamentally racist when there the president is black and the American people watch sports, movies and TV shows featuring blacks?

13. Maybe the reason for poverty in inner cities is not because of capitalism but because of the lack of free market enterprise?

14. Why does the U.S. have a Department of Homeland Security that spies on American websites, but lets millions of illegal immigrants overstay their visas and cross the borders?

15. Why does the NSA illegally spy on millions of Americans, but can’t alert authorities of imminent terrorist attacks like the Boston bombing, even when the government is warned about the suspects?

16. Why are we creating a massive surveillance state to protect us from “terrorism,” when the Obama administration won’t even call the mass murder of U.S. soldiers at Ft. Hood by a confessed jihadist “terrorism”?

17. Maybe the nations worldwide that were poor before the U.S. existed and are still poor suffer because they don’t have economic freedom, and not because America is exploiting them?

18. Perhaps the reason the U.S. has been relatively wealthy is because it has been the most innovative, productive and adventurous nation in history, and not because it stole big screen TVs, computers, Internet wi-fi and smartphones from people?

19. Has the U.S. military liberated millions from tyranny and oppression or is it imposing tyranny and oppression on foreign peoples?

20. How much government debt is too much? Can the government accrue tens of trillions in future debt without negative consequences for people?

21. Do people generally have the right to determine the outcomes of their own lives? Or do Washington politicians and bureaucrats (i.e. other people) have the right to determine them?

22. Why are millionaire corporate CEOs railed against, but millionaire Hollywood actors and pop singers are praised and idolized?

23. Why is the GOP the “party of the rich” when there are just as many rich Democrat politicians as Republicans, and the wealthiest counties in the nation tend to vote Democratic?

24. Why is it that some of the biggest corporations in the nation (Microsoft, GE, Google) donate the majority of their political campaign contributions to the Democrat Party?

25. Why do the largest corporate media outlets in the nation support a political party that has continuously railed against corporations?

26. Why is it that a president who has praised wealth redistribution has seen through an economy where, as he admitted, 95% of the gains have gone to the top 1%?

27. Why Is Washington D.C. all of a sudden one of the richest areas in the nation? What valuable goods and services does that region produce?

28. Can power that accrues in a centralized government be used for evil as well as good? What does history say about this topic?

29. Is it really “progressive” to return to a state of affairs that America was founded to protect people against?

30. How come all of the “compassionate” programs of Democrat-dominated cities across the nation seem to lead only to worsening poverty, drug use and crime?

31. If democracy means “rule of the people,” why does the “Democratic Party” keep giving power to 536 individuals to decide the health, education, energy, transportation, retirement, employment, and income choices for hundreds of millions of people?

32. If Obamacare is so great, how come Congressmen who passed the bill want no part of it? (Even though they make at least $174,000 a year, most are taking federal subsidies to pay for their insurance plans.)

33. Maybe the reason the U.S. is in a bad spot is because many people don’t think through the logical consequences of their political positions?

- Thanks to Independent Journal

Ooohhh..goody a quiz.

One that she doesn't want answered either..



1. First off, the IRS is under a "Don't Ask/Don't Tell" rule about the ACA.then how are fines handed out Second, this is a non-sequitur as one thing has nothing to do with the other. of course not Third? It's the height of stupidity to foster an underground economy in this country where you have over a million people living under the radar, not paying taxes, using services and not reporting crimes. so we don't enforce the law and allow this to flourish in sanctuary cities?

2. Because you can't use the same ID for both. well that's a lie. a picture id is a picture id That's why. In any case, you have to register for the vote and THEN show a special type of ID. And it's not free. As in a poll tax. Which is un-constitutional.

3. Depends on what you mean by "producing nothing". And most of the people who "made" their fortunes, did so by luck (Being born into right families) and questionable and possibly illegal means. LIke the Kennedys They also did so by utilizing government services we all pay for and the backs of others.

4. Depends again what your benchmarks for "hard work" and "doing nothing" are.. When I moved furniture I did harder physical labor than I do now that I work in Information Technology. I make far more now. I've seen cleaning people do harder physical labor than a CEO in a fortune 500 company yet they'll make far less. And CEO's sometimes wind up costing the company in very real money when they screw up..with no consequences. Take Jamie Dimon. Lost 9 Billion dollars at JP Morgan. He made 23 million dollars in 2012. That was so stewpud I couldn't read all of it

5. Think of it as "rent". or prison time

6. Because Muslim Countries, China and Russia are not a part of the United States. And there is protest in this country of those behaviors..otherwise you wouldn't know about it. then why do you want to be like some of these countries?

7. Who says that's going to make people happy? The right wing? Having some debt is actually healthy. It allows a country to build infrastructure, employ people and get things done. It's also good for banks and financial institutions. this is historically wrong, showing that liberals never learn

8. As both the Reagan administration and the Bush administration proved, cutting taxes on wealthy people doesn't create jobs. They didn't get wealthy through altruism. If anything it reduces jobs, because they use their wealth to buy off politicians that allow them to merge companies and off shore employment. good lord, you are totally trained. end reading of your non-sense.

9. It helps the economy vastly to create jobs like fireman, police and other needful positions. Building infrastructure is also a great way to stimulate the economy and keep it going.

10. The "War on Poverty" has been a huge success in the country. FDR's new deal created a Middle Class where there was none before. The biggest set backs were when Conservatives put their policies into practice like during the Reagan administration and the Bush administration. Real income has been flatlining for the middle class while growing wildly for the 1%.

11. To answer this question we have to start with the Truth. Most of the debt Obama is paying, was accumulated during the Bush administration with 2 wars. He put the that debt on a separate track called Emergency Supplemental Spending. Obama put that spending back in the general budget and began to pay it down. Additionally Bush started the Department of Homeland Security and the Medicare drug benefit.

12. Of course. And it's been showing it's racism and some profound and rather embarrassing ways. The first black President was made to show his birth Certificate. Both things are a first. And that's just the tip of the ice berg.

13. When did the Free Market end?

14. Homeland security was set up by the Bush administration. This might have been an appropriate question for the right wingers.

15. The bombers were Chechen and the warnings came from Russia who have a huge problem with these people. They warn about all Chechens, who have never shown any hostility toward America and in fact apologized for the bombings they had nothing to do with.

16. The shooter at Fort Hood has been sentenced to death. Is the concern here about semantics or how these events are prosecuted?

17. It's a little of both.

18. If this were a question then it could be answered. It's not.

19. Both. Depends on what nation you are talking about.

20. Perhaps you should go into the real negative impact the debt has had. Thus far all the consequences this nation has suffered has been from the private sector.

21. People have the right to determine their own outcomes. Washington should be there to provide the means to get the best outcomes.

22. Actors and singers rarely if ever bring the lives of millions of people, economic ruin.

23. You answered your own question. Republicans concentrate the wealth, Democrats spread it.

24. See 23.

25. See 23.

26. In a nutshell? Obama had to save those people to save the economy.

27. Most of the people that serve in Congress are millionaires. Is that so hard to understand?

28. History shows both.

29. Since it's not really doing that..this question makes no sense. America fought against a Monarchy.

30. The Economy began to take a "nose dive" under Nixon. Carter undid Nixon's crap and Reagan went ahead and really fucked things up. It's been a dog fight ever since.

31. Because it's in the Constitution. We aren't a direct Democracy. But a Republican one.

32. Part of Obamacare allows you to keep the healthcare you already have.

33. Absolutely. Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush's political decisions have had adverse effects that are still with us today.


There..all answered.

blue added by me

 

[daveman]

Why do rightwing idiots like the OP think that they can speak for every liberal, and assign their versions of what they think liberals believe to every liberal?

Why do some liberals think they can do the same thing with conservatives?

So the OP is nothing more than a rightwing version of some leftwing idiots...

...got it.

I'm sure you believe you do.

 

[Harry Dresden]

So you're saying that the author of this thread is just the rightwing version of the leftwingers you consider to be idiots.

whoa, that's pretty harsh, but kudos for your honesty.

Cecilie was asking questions.....she did not say this is how all liberals think....but thanks for your dishonesty....

No actually "she" didn't ask the questions she just took them from a website and posted them (she gave very small credit at the end of the list...reduced the font size of the source....perhaps to make you think she wrote it, I dunno)

When someone responded to them, she couldn't back up the original list.

She used a blanket statement as though these "uncomfortable questions" applied to all liberals so wouldn't that translate into her (okay, the original author of the list) believing it is how all liberals think?

i assumed she got it from someplace else.....but it still was asking questions not saying this is how all lefties are...you and Carbo are looking at it the way you do because she is a righty and you 2 are lefties......

 

[The T]

well these are stupid talking point questions....

i will now translate from liberaeez into english.

"i'm a gutless coward that refuses to face the truth of the filth that i support."

nailed.

 

[kaz]

The entire American system is based on the the transfer of wealth to those who have produced nothing. It's called inheritance

So, it's OK for government to confiscate money at gunpoint and give it to someone else, but but it's not OK to give your own money you worked for to whom you chose. Got it.

Thank you for appearing today on our show, but actually, only a tiny portion of American millionaires inherited their wealth. That the American System is based on that is the wrong answer. I'm sorry, out in the first round. Thanks for playing. Here's a home version of our game. Don't go away mad, just go away.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The entire American system is based on the the transfer of wealth to those who have produced nothing. It's called inheritance

So, it's OK for government to confiscate money at gunpoint and give it to someone else, but but it's not OK to give your own money you worked for to whom you chose. Got it.

Thank you for appearing today on our show, but actually, only a tiny portion of American millionaires inherited their wealth. That the American System is based on that is the wrong answer. I'm sorry, out in the first round. Thanks for playing. Here's a home version of our game. Don't go away mad, just go away.

Inheritance should be taxed like income, because that's what it is.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Ooohhh..goody a quiz.

One that she doesn't want answered either..



1. First off, the IRS is under a "Don't Ask/Don't Tell" rule about the ACA. Second, this is a non-sequitur as one thing has nothing to do with the other. Third? It's the height of stupidity to foster an underground economy in this country where you have over a million people living under the radar, not paying taxes, using services and not reporting crimes.

2. Because you can't use the same ID for both. That's why. In any case, you have to register for the vote and THEN show a special type of ID. And it's not free. As in a poll tax. Which is un-constitutional.

3. Depends on what you mean by "producing nothing". And most of the people who "made" their fortunes, did so by luck (Being born into right families) and questionable and possibly illegal means. They also did so by utilizing government services we all pay for and the backs of others.

4. Depends again what your benchmarks for "hard work" and "doing nothing" are.. When I moved furniture I did harder physical labor than I do now that I work in Information Technology. I make far more now. I've seen cleaning people do harder physical labor than a CEO in a fortune 500 company yet they'll make far less. And CEO's sometimes wind up costing the company in very real money when they screw up..with no consequences. Take Jamie Dimon. Lost 9 Billion dollars at JP Morgan. He made 23 million dollars in 2012.

5. Think of it as "rent".

6. Because Muslim Countries, China and Russia are not a part of the United States. And there is protest in this country of those behaviors..otherwise you wouldn't know about it.

7. Who says that's going to make people happy? The right wing? Having some debt is actually healthy. It allows a country to build infrastructure, employ people and get things done. It's also good for banks and financial institutions.

8. As both the Reagan administration and the Bush administration proved, cutting taxes on wealthy people doesn't create jobs. They didn't get wealthy through altruism. If anything it reduces jobs, because they use their wealth to buy off politicians that allow them to merge companies and off shore employment.

9. It helps the economy vastly to create jobs like fireman, police and other needful positions. Building infrastructure is also a great way to stimulate the economy and keep it going.

10. The "War on Poverty" has been a huge success in the country. FDR's new deal created a Middle Class where there was none before. The biggest set backs were when Conservatives put their policies into practice like during the Reagan administration and the Bush administration. Real income has been flatlining for the middle class while growing wildly for the 1%.

11. To answer this question we have to start with the Truth. Most of the debt Obama is paying, was accumulated during the Bush administration with 2 wars. He put the that debt on a separate track called Emergency Supplemental Spending. Obama put that spending back in the general budget and began to pay it down. Additionally Bush started the Department of Homeland Security and the Medicare drug benefit.

12. Of course. And it's been showing it's racism and some profound and rather embarrassing ways. The first black President was made to show his birth Certificate. Both things are a first. And that's just the tip of the ice berg.

13. When did the Free Market end?

14. Homeland security was set up by the Bush administration. This might have been an appropriate question for the right wingers.

15. The bombers were Chechen and the warnings came from Russia who have a huge problem with these people. They warn about all Chechens, who have never shown any hostility toward America and in fact apologized for the bombings they had nothing to do with.

16. The shooter at Fort Hood has been sentenced to death. Is the concern here about semantics or how these events are prosecuted?

17. It's a little of both.

18. If this were a question then it could be answered. It's not.

19. Both. Depends on what nation you are talking about.

20. Perhaps you should go into the real negative impact the debt has had. Thus far all the consequences this nation has suffered has been from the private sector.

21. People have the right to determine their own outcomes. Washington should be there to provide the means to get the best outcomes.

22. Actors and singers rarely if ever bring the lives of millions of people, economic ruin.

23. You answered your own question. Republicans concentrate the wealth, Democrats spread it.

24. See 23.

25. See 23.

26. In a nutshell? Obama had to save those people to save the economy.

27. Most of the people that serve in Congress are millionaires. Is that so hard to understand?

28. History shows both.

29. Since it's not really doing that..this question makes no sense. America fought against a Monarchy.

30. The Economy began to take a "nose dive" under Nixon. Carter undid Nixon's crap and Reagan went ahead and really fucked things up. It's been a dog fight ever since.

31. Because it's in the Constitution. We aren't a direct Democracy. But a Republican one.

32. Part of Obamacare allows you to keep the healthcare you already have.

33. Absolutely. Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush's political decisions have had adverse effects that are still with us today.


There..all answered.

2. Because you can't use the same ID for both. That's why. In any case, you have to register for the vote and THEN show a special type of ID.

what SPECIAL ID Sallow?....i used my Drivers License....what is so special about that?...

How did they manage to vote in the 18th, or 19th centuries?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The best scam that the Rich ever pulled was to get millions of their working/middle class conservative fans to blame all of America's problems on the poor.