400 million guns

[progressive hunter]

Wut ?

we are all assembled here for a holy matrimony,,

 

[2aguy]

That may be true, and I didn't say that California didn't have gun-related homicide. But the fact that the states that have the strictest gun control have comparatively few cities in the top 25 of gun-related homicides is saying something.

But what says a lot more - and what has for years - is how the USA has far more gun-related killings than any other advanced or even semi-advanced society on earth. That is really and truly the end of the debate.

That is a lie.......

Those Advanced countries?

Europe murdered 15 million innocent men, women and children in just 6 years after registering, banning and confiscating their guns from the 1920s through the 1930s.....from 1939-1945, the socialists in Europe murdered these people...not war dead, not collateral from the conflict, people rounded up, put on trains and marched into forests and murdered.....

Meanwhile, in the U.S.......our gun murder number for our entire 246 year history?

Around 2,460,000 if you take 10,000 gun murders a year as about the average number........

So......find a small child to tell you which number is actually bigger....maybe you will understand why we won't be giving up our guns any time soon....

 

[2aguy]

That may be true, and I didn't say that California didn't have gun-related homicide. But the fact that the states that have the strictest gun control have comparatively few cities in the top 25 of gun-related homicides is saying something.

But what says a lot more - and what has for years - is how the USA has far more gun-related killings than any other advanced or even semi-advanced society on earth. That is really and truly the end of the debate.

And you have been shown this before........pay attention this time.....

The Heritage authors' data analysis revealed that, if the homicide rates of Democrat-run cities and counties in Republican-led states are subtracted, the overall homicide rates for those states are dramatically reduced.
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As noted earlier, however, most crime is hyperlocalized, so the funda- mental flaw with the study and the reason it does not deserve any serious consideration is that the “murder rate” in each state is largely a function of the large number of murders in a state’s biggest city or cities.21 A super majority of those cities, even in otherwise red states, are deep blue and runby left-wing ideologues.
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When you remove the crime-infested, homicide-riddled cities from the state murder rate featured in the Third Way study, you dramatically lower the murder rate for that state, upending their conclusions and exposing the piece for what it really is: a straightforward attempt at political projection dressed up as a “study.”

Said another way, Kessler and Murdock did their level best as political operatives to blame their political opponents for the very thing—rising crime—that leftist policies at the city and county levels have caused.


While a state’s murder rate is perhaps politically interesting, a more accurate reflection of what is actually happening on the ground is gained by reviewing localized murder rates, such as murder rates in a city or county. What does this review show?

Table 1 lists the 30 cities with the highest murder rates in the United States as of June 30, 2022.
Not surprisingly, of those 30 cities, 27 have Democratic mayors, the exceptions being Lexington and Jacksonville, which have Republican mayors, and Las Vegas, whose mayor is an Independent. And within those 30 cities there are at least 14 Soros-backed or Soros-inspired rogue prosecutors. Those Soros bought-and-paid-for or inspired rogue prosecutors include:

Study debunks ‘red state murder’ claim from Hillary Clinton, Democrats
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In February 2022, CBS News published a report about cities with the highest homicide rate, "Murder map: Deadliest U.S. cities." Of the top 10 deadliest cities in the country, all of them are cities with Democratic mayors. Moreover, of the 65 cities on this list with the highest murder rates, the overwhelming majority had Democratic mayors. And, to quote Clinton, "that's just a fact."
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On Nov. 4, the Heritage Foundation released a study showing that "high-crime counties are governed largely by Democrats." It revealed that of the 30 cities with the highest murder rates in the country, 27 have Democratic mayors. Furthermore, of those 27 cities, nearly half (14) have radical left-wing prosecutors funded or inspired by affluent billionaire and leftist political activist George Soros and the Open Society Foundation.
"The high murder rate is almost exclusively cabined in cities run by Democrats and with Democrat district attorneys, many of whom are Soros bought-and-paid-for rogue prosecutors or inspired by Soros, groups like the egregiously misnamed Fair and Just Prosecution and other battering rams of the movement," the authors of the study stated.

Don't believe Democrats' lies — blue cities, not red states, have the violent crime problem
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From poster, Toobfreak.

I chose 58 cities as that was the largest number I could fit on a page. I then went through each city one by one to look up the major of every city. Aside from the fact that you can forget finding any pattern of cities in "red" states being the most with the highest crime as the idiot Marc tries to claim, but I went down the list marking all the mayors of the highest crimes cities in America in BRIGHT RED who were DEMOCRATS.


Look at what I found:

Every city above in red is RUN BY A DEMOCRAT!

Murder map: Deadliest U.S. cities


Also.....

The No. 1 state on Third Way’s list is Mississippi. Sure enough, the statewide vote in the 2020 election was for Trump. But within the state, Hinds County residents voted for Joe Biden, 3 to 1. Mississippi’s biggest city, Jackson, is in Hinds County. You know where this is going.
Reporting on Jackson last year, CNN declared it “one of the deadliest U.S. cities.”

The mayor of Jackson is Chokwe Antar Lumumba, a Democrat. The district attorney is Jody Owens, a Democrat.
No. 2 on the list is Louisiana. Trump won that state, too. But on the more local level, he lost Orleans, the parish that contains New Orleans, the state’s most populous city. Residents there went for Biden almost 8 to 1.
“New Orleans had the highest homicide rate of any major city so far this year, with about 41 homicides per 100,000 residents.”— The Wall Street Journal, Sep. 16, 2022
The mayor of New Orleans is LaToya Cantrell, a Democrat. The district attorney is Jason Williams, also a Democrat.
No. 3 on the list is Kentucky, another red state that voted to elect Trump. But Kentucky’s biggest city Louisville is in Jefferson County and 60 percent of those voters supported Biden.
This is from Kentucky-based think tank Pegasus Institute in August: “In the last decade, the city of Louisville has seen unprecedented increases in shootings and homicides. 2020 became Louisville’s deadliest year on record, and 2021 have proven to continue that trend.” The organization reported last year that Louisville’s homicide rate was competing with the likes of Chicago and Philadelphia.
The mayor of Louisville is Greg Fischer, a Democrat. The district attorney is Thomas B. Wine. He is also a Democrat.
Next is Alabama at No. 4, another 2020 red state. But Biden won the most votes in the most populous county, also called Jefferson. He won 56 percent to Trump’s 43. Within Jefferson is the city of Birmingham, which has the third-highest murder ratein all of the U.S.
The mayor of Birmingham is Randall Woodfin. He’s a Democrat, just like the district attorney, Danny Carr.
In slot No. 5 is Missouri. Again, a Trump state. And again, with the county containing its biggest city, St. Louis, going for Biden, 61 percent to Trump’s 37. St. Louis has the fourth-highest murder rate in the country.
Mayor: Tishaura Jones, Democrat.
County prosecuting attorney: Wesley Bell, same.
No. 6 is South Carolina. Trump won that state, but Charleston County, with the city of North Charleston, went for Biden with 56 percent of the vote. North Charleston has the highest murder rate in the state.
Finally, here we have a city with a mayor, Keith Summey, from the Republican Party. The county solicitor — Charleston does not have a district attorney — is Scarlett Wilson, also a Republican.
Not that we’re keeping score, but that brings the number on this list of Republicans who might feasibly be held accountable for raging crime in their cities to a grand total of two. For Democrats, it’s so far 10.
The next two states on Third Way’s report, New Mexico and Georgia, went blue in 2020, so we’ll skip those.
No. 9 is Arkansas, which was red. But again, Pulaski County, with the state’s biggest city of Little Rock, went blue with 60 percent of voters choosing Biden. That city reportedly has one of the highest violent crime rates in the state. The mayor of Little Rock is Frank Scott, a Democrat. The county prosecutor, Larry Jegley, is a Democrat as well.
Lastly, at No. 10, is Tennessee. Another red state with a major blue county that went for Biden. That county here would be Shelby, with 64 percent of the vote going to the president. In Shelby is the city of Memphis, which, according to The New York Times, “is often ranked among the nation’s most violent cities.”
The mayor of Memphis is Jim Strickland, a Democrat. Steve Mulroy, a Democrat, is the recently-elected district attorney.
To recap, of the eight red states listed in Third Way’s report as being among the top 10 with the highest murder rate, the cities where all that murder is happening are run almost exclusively by Democrats. All but one had a Democrat mayor. And all but one had a Democrat responsible for pursuing criminal prosecutions.


https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/12/the-lefts-funny-new-lie-its-the-red-states-with-more-crime/

 

[multivita-man]

And you have been shown this before........pay attention this time.....

The Heritage authors'

I stopped reading here. The Heritage is a right wing think tank, which is at the heart of the problem I've discussed at length.

And as I said before, I'm not going to read the equivalent of Genesis in a single post. You can call it a 'win' if you want - I don't care.

 

[2aguy]

I stopped reading here. The Heritage is a right wing think tank, which is at the heart of the problem I've discussed at length.

And as I said before, I'm not going to read the equivalent of Genesis in a single post. You can call it a 'win' if you want - I don't care.

You lie about democrat cities......and then you ignore when the evidence shows you lied...

 

[multivita-man]

Europe murdered 15 million innocent men, women and children in just 6 years after registering, banning and confiscating their guns from the 1920s through the 1930s.....from 1939-1945, the socialists in Europe murdered these people...not war dead, not collateral from the conflict, people rounded up, put on trains and marched into forests and murdered.....

Meanwhile, in the U.S.......our gun murder number for our entire 246 year history?

Around 2,460,000 if you take 10,000 gun murders a year as about the average number........

So......find a small child to tell you which number is actually bigger....maybe you will understand why we won't be giving up our guns any time soon....

More bullshit history I'm not even going to attempt to rebut because it's clearly more Fox igno-babble. Sure, let's talk about Nazis when we're clearly referring to modern times. Why stop there? Why not talk about the Civil War or the genocide of American Indians -- doesn't fit your narrative.

 

[multivita-man]

You lie about democrat cities......and then you ignore when the evidence shows you lied...

Nope, the US is more violent than other modern or even semi-modern societies that aren't lawless or in a civil war.

 

[progressive hunter]

More bullshit history I'm not even going to attempt to rebut because it's clearly more Fox igno-babble. Sure, let's talk about Nazis when we're clearly referring to modern times. Why stop there? Why not talk about the Civil War or the genocide of American Indians -- doesn't fit your narrative.

yeah like the nazis were what 300 yrs ago and shit,,,

 

[progressive hunter]

Nope, the US is more violent than other modern or even semi-modern societies that aren't lawless or in a civil war.

currently under biden we are lawless and in a civil war,,,

 

[multivita-man]

currently under biden we are lawless and in a civil war,,,

Your imagination is a wild place.

 

[progressive hunter]

Your imagination is a wild place.

yes it is,, but this is reality,,

 

[2aguy]

More bullshit history I'm not even going to attempt to rebut because it's clearly more Fox igno-babble. Sure, let's talk about Nazis when we're clearly referring to modern times. Why stop there? Why not talk about the Civil War or the genocide of American Indians -- doesn't fit your narrative.

They murdered 15 million people in 6 years after taking guns away from people...

Why do you think it cant happen again when it has happened all around the world?

 

[multivita-man]

They murdered 15 million people in 6 years after taking guns away from people...

Why do you think it cant happen again when it has happened all around the world?

Nazism was a right wing movement.

 

[progressive hunter]

Nazism was a right wing movement.

not in our scale,, they are left wing,,

really doesnt matter though since its about disarming the people,,

 

[2aguy]

Nope, the US is more violent than other modern or even semi-modern societies that aren't lawless or in a civil war.

The 30 years War, World War 1 and 2...ethnic cleansing, and, of course, the Holocaust...

sell your BS about the U.S. to biden voters

 

[Failzero]

Your imagination is a wild place.

BLM / ANTIFA / Black Bloc beg to differ

 

[Failzero]

Nazism was a right wing movement.

Germany from 1934-1945 was a Socialist Government led by a Fascist Dictator

 

[ThisIsMe]

Who do you define as “the left”?

I certainly don’t want to get rid of all guns. I own four.

The left…liberals. Progressives, democrats…..the left.

The left wants to get rid of guns right? They want to have buybacks, probably would like to have mandatory buybacks. But, my question is, does the left not want to get rid of guns?

 

[Lesh]

I'm saying it's corrupt because we have at least one justice who is getting compensated by a billionaire right wing political megadonor and not reporting it -- that is textbook corruption, plain and simple. If that were a political candidate, he would be looking at a criminal trial. He should be looking at one now but the law doesn't apparently provide a criminal penalty; he can therefore likely only be impeach or otherwise forced to resign.

And then we learned yesterday that Neil Gorsuch apparently has had business transactions with a law firm with matters before the Court -- more textbook corruption. But the same remedy.

Alito is just off his chain -- he doesn't even hide the fact that he doesn't give a fuck about stare decisis anymore; he just writes whatever opinion he feels like writing.

So no, I don't respect this court majority - at all. I will never see it as legitimate. I think millions out there feel similarly, and we will probably ultimately need some sort of bipartisan commission at some point to restore faith in the judiciary, because nobody will respect the current hyper-politicized nominations/confirmations process. Being honest, yes, I would agree that Kagan, Sotomayor, and Brown-Jackson are a product of that same process, so it goes both ways, but that's the point: we need a clean slate of actual jurists, not partisans. People who are capable of ruling on either side of the spectrum based on a legal analysis, not their ideology.

The Court is broken.

Add Gorsuch to that list

 

[multivita-man]

not in our scale,, they are left wing,,

Understood. You don't know history - knew that already.