42 Dead In US Jihad Attacks; Liberals Still Shout "Fear Mongering"

42 Dead In US Jihad Attacks; Liberals Still Shout "Fear Mongering"


It's not that the liberals actually think it's fearmongering.

It's just that they believe they can damage or destroy conservatives by lying about them.

Doesn't matter what they lie about, anything will do.
 
The OP is really trying to make a case using less than 10 deaths a year? More people die from Christians shooting their fellow Americans here in the U.S. each and every DAY!
Yep. Americans are killing tens of thousands of Americans every year. And a significant percentage are being killed by relatives and friends. You should worry more about your crazy Uncle Bob than any Muslims.
You should worry more about millions of Americans being killed by ISIS is multiple city NUCLEAR attacks which ISIS is planning right now.

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Apparently it is fear mongering to be saying immigrants shouldn't go to the US because there are a few deaths each year.

But it's not fear mongering, apparently, to be going crazy about all of this.


The right like to use fear.

I'm not just talking the right in the US either, all over the place.

Go to the Daily Express newspaper in the UK. This was the newspaper that supported UKIP and Farage at the last election. Farage being a sort of Trump, except he doesn't make a complete fool out of himself.

UK News | World News | Breaking News and Opinion | Daily Express

Today's headlines.

EU laws could let attackers into the UK
Brutal IS fanatic kills Kurds.
Saudis want to execute gay people.
Briton takes picture with hijacker of the Egypt plane.
SAS squad to protect any town from Muslim attackers

Fear mongering, all the top stories are about how you're going to die and how Muslims are really bad. Day in, day out, and you wonder why people fear Muslims.
No, nobody needs to wonder why people fear Muslims. All they need do is read the OP of this thread. And talk to the families of the victims, and the victimes themselves who got maimed , but survive.
 
It looks like about 8 of the killings were either domestic violence or honor killings. Clearly the motive for these 8 killings were not in pursue of a political goal but rather personal So the number is about 36 in 5 years or about 7/year.
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To put this in perspective. Over that 5 year period, there were approximately 65,000 murders in the US that were not due to terrorist acts. You are about 2,000 more likely to be murdered by non-terrorist. You are 38 times more likely to die from a lightning strike than in a terrorist attack.

Despite the fact that the chance of an American being killed in a terrorist attack in the US is almost zero, Americans are now naming terrorism as the biggest problem America faces. That's right it's a bigger problem than 500,000 deaths a year from cancer,14,000 murders a year, 38,000 deaths from drug overdoes, and 5,000 suicides a year by ages 7-15.
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1. Honor killings are not Islamic ? Is there a doctor in the house ?

2. I am not accepting one word of what you say without source links validating them.

3. Those people polled are right. It's not a matter of "chances" as calculated from past happenings (IF those are even valid/correct). The reason why Muslim terroism is America's # 1 greatest danger (and its great danger EVER) is because Obama is setting up a situation that could easily result in the annihilation of millions of Americans, the destruction of dozens of large cities, the obliteration of the US economy, and the end of the USA entirely. At this point, you have no clue what I'm talking about do you ? That's what happens when one only views liberal media, which paints a pretty (and FALSE) picture of America, and has no focus of national security.

ISIS has repeatedly said they will target the US in the near future. With enormous wealth, they are acquiring nuclear weapons (and may already have them). US ports are a security joke (5% inspection of shipping containers), and most aren't even American, They're foreign owned. Add to that Obama's insane approval to allow 185,000 unvetted Syrian refugees into the US, with ISIS neatly tucked in among them. Your media hasn't reported on that have they ? Did they tell you about the Syrian passport office in Raqqa taken over by ISIS ? And the thousands of blank passports they have ? A 10 year old figure this all out.
There is no historical background in Islam for "honour killing". No verse in the Quran and no saying of Prophet Mohammad that sanctions such crimes. Furthermore honour kills are forbidden by Sharia Law.

No matter what the reason is, "honour killing" is a despicable crime, condemned by Islamic leaders. Muslim scholars from around the world have issued a series of fatwas denouncing the practice as antithetical to Islam, and directly forbidden.

Honor killings date back long before Mohammad. They have been known since ancient Roman times, when the senior male within a household, retained the right to kill an unmarried but sexually active daughter or an adulterous wife. Honour-based crimes were known in medieval Europe where early Jewish law mandated death by stoning for an adulterous wife and her partner. In the US, when a husband killed a wife, or child, because of some dishonorable act, a claim of defending the family honor was unacceptable by society. We just called it murder. However, in many Asia and Africa country, defending family honour has long been recognized by society if not the courts as justification. This goes back thousands of years and has nothing to do with Islam.

Historical Context - Origins of Honour Killing / Honour Killing - Worldwide / Honour Killing - In Countries with Islamic Law - Preliminary Examination of so-called Honour Killings in Canada
Does Islam Approve Of Honour Killings Of Women?
HUSAIN: Muslim scholars issue fatwa condemning honor killings.
 
Just within the past 5 years, inside the USA, 42 people lost their lives in Muslim terror attacks. Yet, liberals still claim it is "fearmongering" to object to the immigration of 185,000 people CLAIMING to be Syrian refugees, who the FBI says can't be vetted (of course they can't), and who surely will have ISIS killers tucked in among them.
Along with that lunacy, in January, Donald Trump remarked about how bad it has become in Brussels, and he was attacked by liberals in the New York Times and elsewhere as "Xenophobic". 2 months later, his words were confirmed in the Brussels attack killing 35 and injuring 340.

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Is there a doctor in the house ? Or better yet, a DEPROGRAMMER. Oh well, I guess I'm left with that job.

April 30, 2011 – Rahim Abdul Alfetlawi, 46, shot his step-daughter in the head at point-blank range in Warren, Michigan, after she refused to strictly adhere to Muslim customs. The family claimed the motive was not religion.

Sept. 11, 2011 – Three Jewish men are discovered in Waltham, Massachusetts, with their throats slit from ear to ear and nearly decapitated. Authorities believed the murders were not random, and thousands of dollars in cash and marijuana were left at the scene. According to reports, authorities believe Boston Marathon bombers Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his younger brother, both Muslims, may have been responsible for the triple homicide.

Jan. 15, 2012 – A Jordanian Muslim man, Ali Mahwood-Awad Irsan, 57, gunned down Iranian medical student, Gelareh Bagherzadeh, a friend of his daughter and a Christian convert who widely denounced Islam. He later killed his Christian son-in-law after his daughter married him without permission. Assistant Harris County District Attorney Tammy Thomas told a district judge, “He said, ‘I killed that b–ch, and you’re next. No one insults my honor as a Muslim and gets away with it.'”

Dec. 11, 2012 - A 28-year-old American man is shot to death by a conservative Muslim over an alleged role in converting a woman to Christianity.

Feb. 7, 2013 – Yusuf Ibrahim, 28, shot two Coptic Christians to death and beheaded them in Buena Vista, New Jersey. He also removed their hands before burying their bodies in the backyard of an abandoned house. Quran 8:12 states, “When thy Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them!”

March 31, 2013 – Reshad Riddle walked into an Ashtabula, Ohio, church and fatally shot his father after an Easter service. After the shooting, witnesses say, walked through the church holding the gun and shouted that the slaughter was “the will of Allah. This is the will of God.”

April 15, 2013 – Muslim Chechen brothers Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Tamerlan Tsarnaev detonate two pressure cooker bombs during the Boston Marathon, killing three people and injuring an estimated 264 others. After the bombing, they killed an MIT policeman, stole an SUV and exchanged gunfire with police. Tamerlan was shot and his brother drove over him with the stolen SUV. Tamerlan was pronounced dead at the scene. After a manhunt, police found Dzhokhar hiding in a boat in a man’s backyard. Dzokhar has been sentenced to death.

Aug. 4, 2013 – A Muslim convert, Daymond Agnew, 34, went to an Ace Hardware store on a “mission from Allah to help people” before he fatally stabbed employee Daniel Joseph Stone 17 times.

March 6, 2014 – Registered sex offender James Cosby, 46, is accused of bludgeoning his lesbian daughter to death and shooting her lover in Port Bolivar, Texas. Police believe he then dumped the bodies near a ferry gate. In his bedroom, Cosby had the Quran open to a page that says homosexuality is a sin, family advocate Quanell X told KHOU-TV. “It’s quite unfortunate but he had a real, real warped understanding, in my opinion, of the religion of Islam and its position on the gay lifestyle and what one should do,” Quanell X said.

April 27, 2014 – A 30-year-old Muslim man, Ali Muhammad Brown, is accused of shooting to death two men in Seattle, Washington and a man in New Jersey. According to local reports, he told police the killings were “vengeance” for U.S. actions in the Mideast. According to court documents, he said they were “just kills” and that he was “just doing my small part” as a self-styled jihadist.

June 1, 2014 - Two homosexuals are murdered by an Islamic extremist, in Washington state.

Sept. 25, 2014 – Alton Nolen is accused of beheading a woman in Moore, Oklahoma. Co-workers reported that Nolen had been trying to convert them to Islam. Nolen reportedly used “some Arabic terms” during his attack and had an interest in beheadings. Nolen told a judge, “I’m Muslim. My question is, do you have any Muslims that can represent me as a Muslim?”

December 18, 2014 - A 74-year-old man is shot several times in the head, in Morganton, North Carolina, by a 'radicalized' ISIS supporter.

May 3, 2015 – In Garland, Texas, Pamela Geller, along with her group the American Freedom Defense Initiative, hosted a “Draw Muhammad” event. Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi of Phoenix responded to a call to “avenge the prophet” and traveled to Garland, where they were shot and killed by a security guard after opening fire in an apparent attempt to get into the building. The guard was wounded in the attack. Islamic radicals have since called for Geller’s head, and vow to kill anyone who “blasphemes” Muhammad.

July 16, 2015 – Four U.S. Marines have been shot dead in an attack, reportedly by a lone Islamic gunman, on U.S. Navy facilities in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Chattanooga Mayor Andy Berke said five people died in all, including the gunman. Two law enforcement sources told CBS News that the shooting suspect was identified as Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, 24. Abdulazeez was born in Kuwait and emigrated to the U.S. where he reportedly became a naturalized U.S. citizen.

The FBI is investigating two crime scenes, a Navy recruiting center at a strip mall where the first shots were fired, and a Navy reserve center about 7 miles away. More than 100 rounds were reportedly fired in a shootout with police at the recruitment center parking lot. The shooter then drove to the Navy reserve center and started shooting Marines, four of whom were killed. The Marines would not have been armed at a reserve Navy installation or at a recruitment center, both of which were described as “soft targets.”

The four Marines who were fatally shot reportedly were attacked at the Navy Reserve Center on Amnicola Highway. A police officer at the first location was injured and was being treated at a local hospital for a gunshot wound to the ankle.

Dec. 2, 2015 - A 'very religious' Muslim couple, connected to ISIS, shoot up a Christmas party , leaving fourteen dead, in San Bernardino, California.

Note: These are only attacks in which fatalities occurred in inside the US. Attacks outside the US number well into the hundreds, with as many as 300 killed in one ISIS attack alone in Syria. An attack in Lahore, Pakistan last week killed 70, right after the ISIS Brussels attack which killed 35, and the Paris attack which killed 130.

Islamic Attacks on America

BIG LIST of Muslim terror attacks in U.S. since 9/11


I think we all agree it's a problem.

What the real problem is--is that Trump has declared WAR on everyone, including our neighbors to the South that are predominately Catholic. Many of them that have extended families that are American citizens. You've never heard of a Mexican with a suicide belt on, or trying to commit mass murder. As an example--we have Muslim terrorists coming up from the south through central America trying to cross the border to get into the U.S. Wouldn't it be much better that instead of calling Mexicans--rapists/murdering thieves, that bring diseases and getting them pissed off at us, for them to help us catch the real terrorists before they ever get to the border?

Isn't it much more logical that instead of insulting and offending all Muslims--of which the majority are not terrorists to not insult or offend them as a group, so they will also be much more willing to rat out any other that is planning an attack.

Donald Trump could easily start WW3 with his brain to mouth instantaneous responses. Furthermore Trump was for letting in Syrian refugees one week before he was against it.
Trump calls for taking in Syrian refugees

And from your list of attacks, I believe most of those attacks were done by American citizen Muslims and the Boston Marathon Bombers were born and raised in the United States, and then went radical.

The biggest threat we have today, is all of those European passports flying in and out of this country every single day of the week. From Brussels, from France, from Belgium. How do you stop that? Christian Syrian refugees do exist. ISIS has been beheading them. They go through an 18 month vetting process before they can enter this country. Where it needs to stop is at it's roots--(the radicalization of young Muslim males.) If that can be stopped ISIS & other Islamic terrorist groups cease to exist.

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IMO we have much more to fear in Hillary starting WWIII...she is owned by the banksters and they love war. She has referred to Putin as Hitler.....

Irony...if Trump called him that, the MSM would scream warmonger and lefty dupes eat it up.
The banks would love WWIII? Now that I have never heard. IMHO, these banks with investments and loans all over the world would not be too happy to see them going up in a mushroom cloud.
 
]It fits quite well here to put your comments into perspective. You have a lot of work to do.
No it doesn't fit here. And your post was out of the perspective of a thread about Muslims, and jihad attacks. Nobody is saying there isn't also violence and killing among non-Muslims. That just is another subject for anohter thread. And since you're talking about the big numbers of killings, maybe you ought to start to new thread about that. Perhaps talking about black on black crime.
 
Apparently it is fear mongering to be saying immigrants shouldn't go to the US because there are a few deaths each year.

But it's not fear mongering, apparently, to be going crazy about all of this.


The right like to use fear.

I'm not just talking the right in the US either, all over the place.

Go to the Daily Express newspaper in the UK. This was the newspaper that supported UKIP and Farage at the last election. Farage being a sort of Trump, except he doesn't make a complete fool out of himself.

UK News | World News | Breaking News and Opinion | Daily Express

Today's headlines.

EU laws could let attackers into the UK
Brutal IS fanatic kills Kurds.
Saudis want to execute gay people.
Briton takes picture with hijacker of the Egypt plane.
SAS squad to protect any town from Muslim attackers

Fear mongering, all the top stories are about how you're going to die and how Muslims are really bad. Day in, day out, and you wonder why people fear Muslims.
No, nobody needs to wonder why people fear Muslims. All they need do is read the OP of this thread. And talk to the families of the victims, and the victimes themselves who got maimed , but survive.

Then again these people wouldn't be dead had Bush not gone to Iraq in 2003.

Fear comes from a lot of places, the US govt seems to be one of the biggest givers of fear in the world right now.
 
Just within the past 5 years, inside the USA, 42 people lost their lives in Muslim terror attacks. Yet, liberals still claim it is "fearmongering" to object to the immigration of 185,000 people CLAIMING to be Syrian refugees, who the FBI says can't be vetted (of course they can't), and who surely will have ISIS killers tucked in among them.
Along with that lunacy, in January, Donald Trump remarked about how bad it has become in Brussels, and he was attacked by liberals in the New York Times and elsewhere as "Xenophobic". 2 months later, his words were confirmed in the Brussels attack killing 35 and injuring 340.

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Is there a doctor in the house ? Or better yet, a DEPROGRAMMER. Oh well, I guess I'm left with that job.

April 30, 2011 – Rahim Abdul Alfetlawi, 46, shot his step-daughter in the head at point-blank range in Warren, Michigan, after she refused to strictly adhere to Muslim customs. The family claimed the motive was not religion.

Sept. 11, 2011 – Three Jewish men are discovered in Waltham, Massachusetts, with their throats slit from ear to ear and nearly decapitated. Authorities believed the murders were not random, and thousands of dollars in cash and marijuana were left at the scene. According to reports, authorities believe Boston Marathon bombers Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his younger brother, both Muslims, may have been responsible for the triple homicide.

Jan. 15, 2012 – A Jordanian Muslim man, Ali Mahwood-Awad Irsan, 57, gunned down Iranian medical student, Gelareh Bagherzadeh, a friend of his daughter and a Christian convert who widely denounced Islam. He later killed his Christian son-in-law after his daughter married him without permission. Assistant Harris County District Attorney Tammy Thomas told a district judge, “He said, ‘I killed that b–ch, and you’re next. No one insults my honor as a Muslim and gets away with it.'”

Dec. 11, 2012 - A 28-year-old American man is shot to death by a conservative Muslim over an alleged role in converting a woman to Christianity.

Feb. 7, 2013 – Yusuf Ibrahim, 28, shot two Coptic Christians to death and beheaded them in Buena Vista, New Jersey. He also removed their hands before burying their bodies in the backyard of an abandoned house. Quran 8:12 states, “When thy Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them!”

March 31, 2013 – Reshad Riddle walked into an Ashtabula, Ohio, church and fatally shot his father after an Easter service. After the shooting, witnesses say, walked through the church holding the gun and shouted that the slaughter was “the will of Allah. This is the will of God.”

April 15, 2013 – Muslim Chechen brothers Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Tamerlan Tsarnaev detonate two pressure cooker bombs during the Boston Marathon, killing three people and injuring an estimated 264 others. After the bombing, they killed an MIT policeman, stole an SUV and exchanged gunfire with police. Tamerlan was shot and his brother drove over him with the stolen SUV. Tamerlan was pronounced dead at the scene. After a manhunt, police found Dzhokhar hiding in a boat in a man’s backyard. Dzokhar has been sentenced to death.

Aug. 4, 2013 – A Muslim convert, Daymond Agnew, 34, went to an Ace Hardware store on a “mission from Allah to help people” before he fatally stabbed employee Daniel Joseph Stone 17 times.

March 6, 2014 – Registered sex offender James Cosby, 46, is accused of bludgeoning his lesbian daughter to death and shooting her lover in Port Bolivar, Texas. Police believe he then dumped the bodies near a ferry gate. In his bedroom, Cosby had the Quran open to a page that says homosexuality is a sin, family advocate Quanell X told KHOU-TV. “It’s quite unfortunate but he had a real, real warped understanding, in my opinion, of the religion of Islam and its position on the gay lifestyle and what one should do,” Quanell X said.

April 27, 2014 – A 30-year-old Muslim man, Ali Muhammad Brown, is accused of shooting to death two men in Seattle, Washington and a man in New Jersey. According to local reports, he told police the killings were “vengeance” for U.S. actions in the Mideast. According to court documents, he said they were “just kills” and that he was “just doing my small part” as a self-styled jihadist.

June 1, 2014 - Two homosexuals are murdered by an Islamic extremist, in Washington state.

Sept. 25, 2014 – Alton Nolen is accused of beheading a woman in Moore, Oklahoma. Co-workers reported that Nolen had been trying to convert them to Islam. Nolen reportedly used “some Arabic terms” during his attack and had an interest in beheadings. Nolen told a judge, “I’m Muslim. My question is, do you have any Muslims that can represent me as a Muslim?”

December 18, 2014 - A 74-year-old man is shot several times in the head, in Morganton, North Carolina, by a 'radicalized' ISIS supporter.

May 3, 2015 – In Garland, Texas, Pamela Geller, along with her group the American Freedom Defense Initiative, hosted a “Draw Muhammad” event. Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi of Phoenix responded to a call to “avenge the prophet” and traveled to Garland, where they were shot and killed by a security guard after opening fire in an apparent attempt to get into the building. The guard was wounded in the attack. Islamic radicals have since called for Geller’s head, and vow to kill anyone who “blasphemes” Muhammad.

July 16, 2015 – Four U.S. Marines have been shot dead in an attack, reportedly by a lone Islamic gunman, on U.S. Navy facilities in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Chattanooga Mayor Andy Berke said five people died in all, including the gunman. Two law enforcement sources told CBS News that the shooting suspect was identified as Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, 24. Abdulazeez was born in Kuwait and emigrated to the U.S. where he reportedly became a naturalized U.S. citizen.

The FBI is investigating two crime scenes, a Navy recruiting center at a strip mall where the first shots were fired, and a Navy reserve center about 7 miles away. More than 100 rounds were reportedly fired in a shootout with police at the recruitment center parking lot. The shooter then drove to the Navy reserve center and started shooting Marines, four of whom were killed. The Marines would not have been armed at a reserve Navy installation or at a recruitment center, both of which were described as “soft targets.”

The four Marines who were fatally shot reportedly were attacked at the Navy Reserve Center on Amnicola Highway. A police officer at the first location was injured and was being treated at a local hospital for a gunshot wound to the ankle.

Dec. 2, 2015 - A 'very religious' Muslim couple, connected to ISIS, shoot up a Christmas party , leaving fourteen dead, in San Bernardino, California.

Note: These are only attacks in which fatalities occurred in inside the US. Attacks outside the US number well into the hundreds, with as many as 300 killed in one ISIS attack alone in Syria. An attack in Lahore, Pakistan last week killed 70, right after the ISIS Brussels attack which killed 35, and the Paris attack which killed 130.

Islamic Attacks on America

BIG LIST of Muslim terror attacks in U.S. since 9/11


Yo Dingle Berry

I need to know how many Palestinians have died since the 1925 Palestine zionut invasion

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How many Muslims died during the 1990-2008 Iraqi invasion

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How many Muslims have died in Lebanon due to Israhell's invasions


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How many Syrians have died since the 2011 US, Israhell, Saudi Arabia invasion?


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How many Syrians were forced to be international refugees due to the 2011 US, Israhell, Saudi Arabia invasion?


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How many Muslims have died due to the AfPak invasion?


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The OP is really trying to make a case using less than 10 deaths a year? More people die from Christians shooting their fellow Americans here in the U.S. each and every DAY!
Yep. Americans are killing tens of thousands of Americans every year. And a significant percentage are being killed by relatives and friends. You should worry more about your crazy Uncle Bob than any Muslims.
You should worry more about millions of Americans being killed by ISIS is multiple city NUCLEAR attacks which ISIS is planning right now.

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North Korea's been saying the same thing for a long time/

Then again, does the Daily Mail talk to ISIS? Really? And where are they getting these nukes from then anyway?

No, it was "apparently" (means they don't know) written by a hostage, hmmm, how much do hostages know about the nuclear capabilities of ISIS? Probably NOTHING.

Jeez, read the Daily Fail and get..... crap.
 
The banks would love WWIII? Now that I have never heard. IMHO, these banks with investments and loans all over the world would not be too happy to see them going up in a mushroom cloud.

Interesting. I thought liberals had no concept of a "mushroom cloud" - the same ones supporting the open doors to ISIS coming here.
 

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