5 Doz (60) People Shot in Chicago This Weekend - Where's Obama's Outrage?

Yes, but Chicago had 1,000 extra police on the streets this weekend, in hi-crime neighborhoods, in parks, at the airport, everywhere. Sorry to hear it didn't make much of a dent.
 
Maybe we should do somthing about guns being so readily avialable ?
 
Why would anyone care if drug dealing gangsters off each other? The Fourth of July is the traditional day for gangsters in Chicago to settle scores. It has been going on for decades.
 
Who cares if they kill each other? It's Chicago, they're all Obama style thugs.
 
Maybe we should do somthing about guns being so readily avialable ?


They aren't......you have to go through 16 hours of training, and get a background check to carry a gun in chicago....the thugs doing the shooting are convicted felons...they can't buy, own or carry guns....so guns aren't the issue...thugs are.

Legal gun owners don't shoot other people...criminals with illegal guns do...and that is already illegal.....
 
Maybe we should do somthing about guns being so readily avialable ?
Aren't they illegal in Chicago?

No. But heres the deal all those guns that are being used come from outside of Chicago.


Wrong...New York is close to both Vermont, where they almost hand out guns....and Pennsylvania, the Missouri of the east....so access to guns isn't the problem.....

Chicago judges give felons caught with illegal guns on them a year or less jail time....

New York gives them a minimum of 3 and half years......also, New York used to have stop and frisk.....you know....a no fly list for gang bangers.....and that caught gang bangers with guns before they shot people.....now that they have stopped it....gun crime is rising in New York...
 
Yes, but Chicago had 1,000 extra police on the streets this weekend, in hi-crime neighborhoods, in parks, at the airport, everywhere. Sorry to hear it didn't make much of a dent.


Yeah....Hi Crime neighborhoods.....not likely......they used their cops at the parks...and the rich democrat areas......
 
One maybe tempted to ask if race has anything to do with it?

One might be tempted to wonder if illegal drugs has anything to do with it. The combination of easily obtained handguns and hundreds of thousands of illegal drug users makes for very interesting crime report reading every day.
 
Here you go.....the thug culture difference...

This article points out the key difference between New York and Chicago.......in New York...they put gun criminals in jail for a longer time.....Chicago...less than a year...

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/05/18/us/chicago-murder-problem.html?_r=0


And Chicago is more lenient about illegal handguns than New York, prescribing a one-year minimum for possession versus three and a half years in New York. An attempt to match the New York law in 2013 was rejected by the Illinois legislature out of concern for skyrocketing incarceration rates for young black men.

And there you have it....the real reason....put criminals away for a long time...discourages random gun violence...and intentional gun violence......

Japan has a 95% conviction rate for all crimes...and a 30 year sentence for any gun crime.....

That is how you stop gun violence...not by attacking normal gun owners...

Also...stop and frisk....keeps thugs from carrying guns and shooting on impulse....

New York also hired a lot more police officers in response to the crime of the 1990s, and, during its stop-and-frisk era of the 2000s, steeply increased gun enforcement. Recent studies, including one that looked at increased police presence in London after a terrorist attack, have suggested more police might mean less crime, said Jens Ludwig, the director of Crime Lab at the University of Chicago, which studies crime in both Chicago and New York.

Chicago’s Police Department, overwhelmed, can respond only to the most serious problems, leaving citizens to feel responsible for their own security, he said.


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Dr. Hagedorn also points out that though the city also has a lot of Latino gang members, Chicago’s violence is much higher among African-Americans. Three quarters of all homicide offenders and victims are black, he said.

“The shootings today are more spontaneous over day-to-day humiliations of youthful African-Americans,” he said.



Thug culture...not guns....


Many of Chicago’s gangs have fractured, leading to more violence, said Arthur Lurigio, a criminology professor at Loyola University Chicago. While Latino gangs have remained more hierarchical, black gangs have splintered into small, disparate factions, whose disputes are less over territory and profits, and more over personal insults or shames, often fueled by social media, he said.

“Young people are making a lot of indirect threats toward cliques and rival gangs that are being interpreted as being threatening,” said Desmond Patton, a professor at Columbia University who has studied violence on social media. “Tagging is the conversation starter that could lead to someone getting a gun.”

In addition to making threats, individuals at times post their location on social media to prove to rivals that they’re tough, he said.

In one well-known instance, Gakirah Barnes, a Chicago gang member who was rumored to have killed or shot up to 20 rival gang members, referenced an address she frequented on Twitter. In the tweet, provided by Dr. Patton, Ms. Barnes says “Lz,” which has multiple meanings in Chicago gang cultures, including living life, at address number 6347. Later that day, she was shot and killed near the address.

That is why you have more criminals shooting other criminals in chicago......and innocent people caught in the crossfire...
 
One maybe tempted to ask if race has anything to do with it?

One might be tempted to wonder if illegal drugs has anything to do with it. The combination of easily obtained handguns and hundreds of thousands of illegal drug users makes for very interesting crime report reading every day.


Easily obtainable...wrong....New York and L.A. gangs get guns just as easily...and Chicago has a higher gun crime rate than both combined...access to guns isn't the issue, the thug culture is....
 

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