6 die - ban flavored vaping, hundreds die in msass shootings, silenvce. WTF?

[ABikerSailor]

You know, I've seen people vaping with tobacco vapes, and the amount of vapor they inhale is WAY MORE than what I get with my Openvape THC pen.

I've seen people inhale for quite a while on those things, and have a whole cloud of vapor surround them. THC vapes have a light that comes on when you start to inhale, and then 5 sec. later it starts blinking and shuts off. And, it gives a pretty decent hit, but the amount of vapor that I get from my pen is less than 1/10th of what a Juul and Vuse put out.

There is no way someone can generate a giant vape cloud if they inhale using Juul or Vuse. The key word, is inhale.

Sorry, but the THC pens that I have seen and used, give off much less vapor than the tobacco ones.

I don't use THC vapes.
The oil must be quite thicker in the lungs, tho'.

I get about 1/10th of the vapor from my THC pen than what I would get if I used a Juul or Vuse.

It's speculatively the black market THC vapes with Vitamin E added causing lung coatings.

Which is why you should not buy cartridges from individual dealers, you should go to an authorized 420 shop.

Yet another reason to legalize cannabis.

 

[B. Kidd]

There is no way someone can generate a giant vape cloud if they inhale using Juul or Vuse. The key word, is inhale.

Sorry, but the THC pens that I have seen and used, give off much less vapor than the tobacco ones.

I don't use THC vapes.
The oil must be quite thicker in the lungs, tho'.

I get about 1/10th of the vapor from my THC pen than what I would get if I used a Juul or Vuse.

It's speculatively the black market THC vapes with Vitamin E added causing lung coatings.

Which is why you should not buy cartridges from individual dealers, you should go to an authorized 420 shop.

Yet another reason to legalize cannabis.

The majority of vape victims who are young cannot afford cannabis where it is legal.
Therefore, a black market will always exist.

 

[2aguy]

AK-47-style semi-automatic rifle Saiga-12 shotgun 9mm handgun
2015 Chattanooga shootings

And? They are not "Assault weapons." They are semi-automatic rifles, while a definition of "Assault Rifle" is one that has the capability of automatic fire......nothing you listed does that.

Excuse me they have a clip and fire more than one round.

Wrong....that isn't the defining feature of the mythical "Assault Rifle." That would be the ability to switch between single shot, and fully automatic fire....which that AK-47 could not do, since it was the civilian rifle, not the military rifle....and, by the way, those military rifles are protected by the 2nd Amendment...per Miller v U.S. and Heller v D.C.....

 

[2aguy]

I was in the armed forces. I was issued an M-16A1 as my T/O weapon. When qualifying at the range, trust me, most cannot obtain sharpshooter or expert. Plus they have no real opportunity to train with their T/O weapon. Sent off to war with little training. I think of these crazy assholes who shoot up an elementary school. Yes people we need some kind of registration on assault weapons, period.

No, we don't. No "assault weapon" has been used in any mass public shooting. And with 18 million AR-15 rifles in private hands, how many were used illegally to murder people in mass public shootings?

less than 12. There were 12 mass public shootings in 2018, with a total of 93 killed.

These rifles are not a problem...democrat judges letting repeat gun offenders out on bond and out of prison with short sentences is the actual problem..... care to focus on the actual problem? Or just on the rare use of rifles.....?

You aren't being quite honest. While there may have only been 12 mass shootings in 2018, there were quite a few more guns used than just 12.

Here is a list of what was in the Las Vegas shooters hotel room alone........

LIST: Guns and evidence in Vegas mass shooting

Guns found inside Mandalay Bay rooms 32-135 and 32-134:

• Colt M4 Carbine AR-15 .223/5.56 with a bump stock, vertical fore grip and 100 round magazine. Front sight only.
• Noveske N4 AR-15 .223/5.56 with a bump stock, vertical fore grip and 40 round magazine. EOTech optic.
• LWRC M61C AR-15 .223/5.56 with a bump stock, vertical fore grip and 100 round magazine. No sights or optics.
• POF USA P-308 AR-10 .308/7.62 with a bipod, scope and 25 round magazine
• Christensen Arms CA-15 AR-15 .223 Wylde with a bump stock, vertical fore grip and 100 round magazine. No sights or optics.
• POF USA P-15 P AR-15 .223/5.56 with a bump stock, vertical fore grip and 100 round magazine. No sights or optics.
• Colt Competition AR-15 .223/5.56 with a bump stock, vertical fore grip and 100 round magazine. No sights or optics.
• Smith & Wesson 342 AirLite .38 caliber revolver with 4 cartridges, 1 expended cartridge case.
• LWRC M61C AR-15 .223/5.56 with a bump stock, vertical fore grip and 100 round magazine. EOTech optic.
• FNH FM15 AR-10 .308/7.62 with a bipod, scope and 25 round magazine.
• Daniel Defense DD5V1 AR-10 .308/7.62 with a bipod, scope and 25 round magazine.
• FNH FN15 AR-15 .223/5.56 with a bump stock, vertical fore grip and 100 round magazine. EOTech optic.
• POF USA P15 AR-15 .223/5.56 with a bump stock, vertical fore grip and 100 round magazine. EOTech optic.
• Colt M4 Carbine AR-15 .223/5.56 with a bump stock, vertical fore grip and 100 round magazine.
• Daniel Defense M4A1 AR-15 .223/5.56 with a bump stock, vertical fore grip and 100 round magazine. EOTech optic.
• LMT Def. 2000 AR-15 .223/5.56 with a bump stock, vertical fore grip and 100 round magazine. No sights or optics.
• Daniel Defense DDM4V11 AR-15 .223/5.56 with a bump stock, vertical fore grip. No magazine. EOTech optic.
• Sig Sauer SIG716 AR-10 .308/7.62 with a bipod, red dot optic and 25 round magazine.
• Daniel Defense DD5V1 AR-10 .308/7.62 with a bipod and scope. No magazine.
• FNH FN15 AR-15 .223/5.56 with a bump stock, vertical fore grip and 100 round magazine. No sights or optics.
• Ruger American .308 caliber bolt action rifle with scope.
• LMT LM308MWS AR-10 .308/7.62 with a bipod and red dot scope. No magazine.
• Ruger SR0762 AR-10 .308/7.62 with a bipod, scope and 25 round magazine.
• LMT LM308MWS AR-10 with a bipod, scope and 25 round magazine.

Sorry.....you don't get to count guns that weren't actually used in the attack.... there were 12 attacks in 2018....93 killed......

knives killed over 1,500 people every year.....

Cars 38,000

 

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[ThunderKiss1965]

I was in the armed forces. I was issued an M-16A1 as my T/O weapon. When qualifying at the range, trust me, most cannot obtain sharpshooter or expert. Plus they have no real opportunity to train with their T/O weapon. Sent off to war with little training. I think of these crazy assholes who shoot up an elementary school. Yes people we need some kind of registration on assault weapons, period.

I never scored less than Sharpshooter once I hit 39 out of 40. Its strange that someone who was supposedly in the military would compare an M16A1 to the semi-automatics that are available to civilians.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump administration moves to ban flavored e-cigarettes - CNNPolitics

Trump says that our kids are dying & we must do something!!!!!

Six have fied & Trump works to ban flavored vaping.

Hundreds have died is mass shootings involving assault type rifles & nothing. Cabn't bsn them, can do any m,ore in background checks, nothing.

Republicans are panty waisted chickenshit afraid of the terror group NRA.

I agree that the vaping thing is absurd. The goal of 100% product safety is absurd. hundreds of babies die every year because of poorly designed cribs. You don't hear any hue and cry because of that.

 

[DBA]

Trump administration moves to ban flavored e-cigarettes - CNNPolitics

Trump says that our kids are dying & we must do something!!!!!

Six have fied & Trump works to ban flavored vaping.

Hundreds have died is mass shootings involving assault type rifles & nothing. Cabn't bsn them, can do any m,ore in background checks, nothing.

Republicans are panty waisted chickenshit afraid of the terror group NRA.

Didn't know vaping was specifically protected in the constitution.....

You do know the constitution right? You've at least heard of it? Any basic knowledge on how it works? What is REQUIRED to change it?

Funny chit. A trumpette saying they know how the Constitution works.

No where does it say you can own every armament known to man. It says you can bear arms. Here's a single shot .22, STFU.

At least you finally admitted what you want. A single shot .22 is vittually useless against a criminal with a .556 and a 30 round magazine. You do realize that the CRIMINALS WOULD STILL HAVE GUNS, no matter what addtional laws are passed, rght? I swear you guys are the biggest bone heads on the planet...like sheep to slaughter.

Having a .22 single shot means you are bearing arms. That was the point, jackasss.

if guns were banned that criminals could be arrested before they use them, right?

So your solution is to keep passing out guns to just about anyone who wants one. Great plan. It's working so g

Very simple.
Vaping is not a right and does not defend the rights, property, or lives of anyone.
Firearms are a right and do defend the rights, property, and lives of more than 2.5 million people a year.

Very simple.
Vaping is not a right and does not defend the rights, property, or lives of anyone.
Firearms are a right and do defend the rights, property, and lives of more than 2.5 million people a year.

They sure trample the right to life.

Firearms are the source of freedom that allowed democratic republics to throw off feudalism.
Firearms are the equalizer that allow women to prevent rape, that used to be far more common before firearms.
There is nothing more essential to liberty than the equality of weapons provided by firearms.
Gun control is totally incompatible with the principle of equality of a democratic republic, and no democratic republic can survive gun control laws.
When there are dangerous people, you confine them, not all possible means they might employ.

Firearms also allow men to rape, rob, murder, imprison, overake, invade

Sure, having a .single 22 means you are bearing arms, but that restrictiion renders it virtually useless. If you are going to go down that path, why not just say you can bear arms but bullets are illegal. It is just a assanine

You live in a fantasy world where if guns are illegal, they will no longer be available to those willing to break the law. That is nonsense. Guns could be made illegal tomorrow and only those afraid of facing felony charges would turn theirs over. Some of those wouldn't even do so. They would keep one stashed in a safe location just in case. In a utiopia, where we could flip and switch and all guns would simply vanish, future gun control could work. But that is unicorn and rainbow stuff. It is illegal for felons to have guns now, but they do. Why would that change if they were made illegal for everyone else?

Passing out guns as you call it, is, in fact, working great. Felons with guns are offset by the vast majority of law abiding citizens with guns, except in the liberals cities where the law abiding citizens have been brainwashed like you.

 

[DBA]

AK-47-style semi-automatic rifle Saiga-12 shotgun 9mm handgun
2015 Chattanooga shootings

And? They are not "Assault weapons." They are semi-automatic rifles, while a definition of "Assault Rifle" is one that has the capability of automatic fire......nothing you listed does that.

Excuse me they have a clip and fire more than one round.

You must have been a human resources specialists in the army. These weapons don't have clips, they have magazines. Your definitiion of an assault weapon is anything that fires more than 1 round? Cheez, I guess we would also have to ban revolvers with very light trigger pulls.

 

[2aguy]

AK-47-style semi-automatic rifle Saiga-12 shotgun 9mm handgun
2015 Chattanooga shootings

And? They are not "Assault weapons." They are semi-automatic rifles, while a definition of "Assault Rifle" is one that has the capability of automatic fire......nothing you listed does that.

Excuse me they have a clip and fire more than one round.

You must have been a human resources specialists in the army. These weapons don't have clips, they have magazines. Your definitiion of an assault weapon is anything that fires more than 1 round? Cheez, I guess we would also have to ban revolvers with very light trigger pulls.

I guess we would also have to ban revolvers

Yes....they will come for those too.....after they get any gun with a magazine...

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Trump administration moves to ban flavored e-cigarettes - CNNPolitics

Trump says that our kids are dying & we must do something!!!!!

Six have fied & Trump works to ban flavored vaping.

Hundreds have died is mass shootings involving assault type rifles & nothing. Cabn't bsn them, can do any m,ore in background checks, nothing.

Republicans are panty waisted chickenshit afraid of the terror group NRA.

Hey Dave can you explain why you care about banning assault weapons again when Obama could not be bothered from 2009 to 2011 when he had the chance to do so?

Why did Harey Reid fail those kids and parents from 2009 to 2011?

Why did Nancy Pelosi fail those kids from 2009 to 2011?

You sit there crying those fake crocodile tears while ignoring you own political party failure back then while demanding the opposition party to do what your own political party refused to do!

Oh, I know you will mention those bills that Mitch McConnell will not put up to a vote but see Dave it is like the Immigration issue and all this ( Assault Weapon Ban and Immigration Reform ) could have been dealt with When Pelosi, Reid and Obama had the House, Senate and Oval office but they were busy working for the Insurance Lobbyists passing a Healthcare Bill they new would fail while not caring about the future children and parents or those illegal immigrants...

So blame your own political party Davey because they had the chance from 2009 to 2011 to put the ban back in place and did nothing!

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Do YOUR part, Davie-doo and put down the bong!

Bongs are safe, Huckleberry.

Just do not drink the water...

 

[bripat9643]

AK-47-style semi-automatic rifle Saiga-12 shotgun 9mm handgun
2015 Chattanooga shootings

And? They are not "Assault weapons." They are semi-automatic rifles, while a definition of "Assault Rifle" is one that has the capability of automatic fire......nothing you listed does that.

Excuse me they have a clip and fire more than one round.

You must have been a human resources specialists in the army. These weapons don't have clips, they have magazines. Your definitiion of an assault weapon is anything that fires more than 1 round? Cheez, I guess we would also have to ban revolvers with very light trigger pulls.

That's exactly what they want. They know the public has an emotional reaction to the term "assault weapon," so they redefine it to mean virtually every weapon on the planet.

 

[RealDave]

Trump administration moves to ban flavored e-cigarettes - CNNPolitics

Trump says that our kids are dying & we must do something!!!!!

Six have fied & Trump works to ban flavored vaping.

Hundreds have died is mass shootings involving assault type rifles & nothing. Cabn't bsn them, can do any m,ore in background checks, nothing.

Republicans are panty waisted chickenshit afraid of the terror group NRA.

Didn't know vaping was specifically protected in the constitution.....

You do know the constitution right? You've at least heard of it? Any basic knowledge on how it works? What is REQUIRED to change it?

Funny chit. A trumpette saying they know how the Constitution works.

No where does it say you can own every armament known to man. It says you can bear arms. Here's a single shot .22, STFU.

At least you finally admitted what you want. A single shot .22 is vittually useless against a criminal with a .556 and a 30 round magazine. You do realize that the CRIMINALS WOULD STILL HAVE GUNS, no matter what addtional laws are passed, rght? I swear you guys are the biggest bone heads on the planet...like sheep to slaughter.

Having a .22 single shot means you are bearing arms. That was the point, jackasss.

if guns were banned that criminals could be arrested before they use them, right?

So your solution is to keep passing out guns to just about anyone who wants one. Great plan. It's working so g

Very simple.
Vaping is not a right and does not defend the rights, property, or lives of anyone.
Firearms are a right and do defend the rights, property, and lives of more than 2.5 million people a year.

Very simple.
Vaping is not a right and does not defend the rights, property, or lives of anyone.
Firearms are a right and do defend the rights, property, and lives of more than 2.5 million people a year.

They sure trample the right to life.

Firearms are the source of freedom that allowed democratic republics to throw off feudalism.
Firearms are the equalizer that allow women to prevent rape, that used to be far more common before firearms.
There is nothing more essential to liberty than the equality of weapons provided by firearms.
Gun control is totally incompatible with the principle of equality of a democratic republic, and no democratic republic can survive gun control laws.
When there are dangerous people, you confine them, not all possible means they might employ.

Firearms also allow men to rape, rob, murder, imprison, overake, invade

Sure, having a .single 22 means you are bearing arms, but that restrictiion renders it virtually useless. If you are going to go down that path, why not just say you can bear arms but bullets are illegal. It is just a assanine

You live in a fantasy world where if guns are illegal, they will no longer be available to those willing to break the law. That is nonsense. Guns could be made illegal tomorrow and only those afraid of facing felony charges would turn theirs over. Some of those wouldn't even do so. They would keep one stashed in a safe location just in case. In a utiopia, where we could flip and switch and all guns would simply vanish, future gun control could work. But that is unicorn and rainbow stuff. It is illegal for felons to have guns now, but they do. Why would that change if they were made illegal for everyone else?

Passing out guns as you call it, is, in fact, working great. Felons with guns are offset by the vast majority of law abiding citizens with guns, except in the liberals cities where the law abiding citizens have been brainwashed like you.

You still can't grasp my statement concerning single shot .22.

If they were illegal, they could be arrested before the actually use it. Why the fuck are you too stupid to get it.

Then there was the total Commie Wyatt Earp. He tamed Doge by banning guns. Funny chit, huh.

 

[RealDave]

AK-47-style semi-automatic rifle Saiga-12 shotgun 9mm handgun
2015 Chattanooga shootings

And? They are not "Assault weapons." They are semi-automatic rifles, while a definition of "Assault Rifle" is one that has the capability of automatic fire......nothing you listed does that.

Excuse me they have a clip and fire more than one round.

You must have been a human resources specialists in the army. These weapons don't have clips, they have magazines. Your definitiion of an assault weapon is anything that fires more than 1 round? Cheez, I guess we would also have to ban revolvers with very light trigger pulls.

That's exactly what they want. They know the public has an emotional reaction to the term "assault weapon," so they redefine it to mean virtually every weapon on the planet.

Not another Gun nut talking about the definition when we all know what is being discussed.

Poor baby, Afraid to use his toys. Grow the fuck up.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You still can't grasp my statement concerning single shot .22.

If they were illegal, they could be arrested before the actually use it.

What is there to grasp beyond your CLEAR stupidity?

Seems you watched Minority Report too many times.

I'll ask again.... guns are already illegally possessed by criminals. Why aren't they already being arrested?

You going to search every nook and cranny of everyone's property to determine if they have a gun? Gonna search EVERYDAY?

You are an ignorant fool

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Didn't know vaping was specifically protected in the constitution.....

You do know the constitution right? You've at least heard of it? Any basic knowledge on how it works? What is REQUIRED to change it?

Funny chit. A trumpette saying they know how the Constitution works.

No where does it say you can own every armament known to man. It says you can bear arms. Here's a single shot .22, STFU.

At least you finally admitted what you want. A single shot .22 is vittually useless against a criminal with a .556 and a 30 round magazine. You do realize that the CRIMINALS WOULD STILL HAVE GUNS, no matter what addtional laws are passed, rght? I swear you guys are the biggest bone heads on the planet...like sheep to slaughter.

Having a .22 single shot means you are bearing arms. That was the point, jackasss.

if guns were banned that criminals could be arrested before they use them, right?

So your solution is to keep passing out guns to just about anyone who wants one. Great plan. It's working so g

Very simple.
Vaping is not a right and does not defend the rights, property, or lives of anyone.
Firearms are a right and do defend the rights, property, and lives of more than 2.5 million people a year.

Very simple.
Vaping is not a right and does not defend the rights, property, or lives of anyone.
Firearms are a right and do defend the rights, property, and lives of more than 2.5 million people a year.

They sure trample the right to life.

Firearms are the source of freedom that allowed democratic republics to throw off feudalism.
Firearms are the equalizer that allow women to prevent rape, that used to be far more common before firearms.
There is nothing more essential to liberty than the equality of weapons provided by firearms.
Gun control is totally incompatible with the principle of equality of a democratic republic, and no democratic republic can survive gun control laws.
When there are dangerous people, you confine them, not all possible means they might employ.

Firearms also allow men to rape, rob, murder, imprison, overake, invade

Sure, having a .single 22 means you are bearing arms, but that restrictiion renders it virtually useless. If you are going to go down that path, why not just say you can bear arms but bullets are illegal. It is just a assanine

You live in a fantasy world where if guns are illegal, they will no longer be available to those willing to break the law. That is nonsense. Guns could be made illegal tomorrow and only those afraid of facing felony charges would turn theirs over. Some of those wouldn't even do so. They would keep one stashed in a safe location just in case. In a utiopia, where we could flip and switch and all guns would simply vanish, future gun control could work. But that is unicorn and rainbow stuff. It is illegal for felons to have guns now, but they do. Why would that change if they were made illegal for everyone else?

Passing out guns as you call it, is, in fact, working great. Felons with guns are offset by the vast majority of law abiding citizens with guns, except in the liberals cities where the law abiding citizens have been brainwashed like you.

You still can't grasp my statement concerning single shot .22.

If they were illegal, they could be arrested before the actually use it. Why the fuck are you too stupid to get it.

Then there was the total Commie Wyatt Earp. He tamed Doge by banning guns. Funny chit, huh.

You will arrest them if caught with it but you have to catch them before they use it...

So which person is the idiot?

I swear you have no clue do you?

Also Davey the fact is Obama, Pelosi and Reid had the chance to put the Assault Weapon Ban back in place and did nothing, so why do they hate Children?

2009-2011 and nothing from them to save the children of the future from dying...

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

AK-47-style semi-automatic rifle Saiga-12 shotgun 9mm handgun
2015 Chattanooga shootings

And? They are not "Assault weapons." They are semi-automatic rifles, while a definition of "Assault Rifle" is one that has the capability of automatic fire......nothing you listed does that.

Excuse me they have a clip and fire more than one round.

You must have been a human resources specialists in the army. These weapons don't have clips, they have magazines. Your definitiion of an assault weapon is anything that fires more than 1 round? Cheez, I guess we would also have to ban revolvers with very light trigger pulls.

That's exactly what they want. They know the public has an emotional reaction to the term "assault weapon," so they redefine it to mean virtually every weapon on the planet.

Not another Gun nut talking about the definition when we all know what is being discussed.

Poor baby, Afraid to use his toys. Grow the fuck up.

My shotgun is assault weapon and can be used on the battlefield, so you will admit it need to be banned, right?

If so how will ranchers deal with wild animals if you ban all firearms like you want?

 

[RealDave]

Trump administration moves to ban flavored e-cigarettes - CNNPolitics

Trump says that our kids are dying & we must do something!!!!!

Six have fied & Trump works to ban flavored vaping.

Hundreds have died is mass shootings involving assault type rifles & nothing. Cabn't bsn them, can do any m,ore in background checks, nothing.

Republicans are panty waisted chickenshit afraid of the terror group NRA.

Hey Dave can you explain why you care about banning assault weapons again when Obama could not be bothered from 2009 to 2011 when he had the chance to do so?

Why did Harey Reid fail those kids and parents from 2009 to 2011?

Why did Nancy Pelosi fail those kids from 2009 to 2011?

You sit there crying those fake crocodile tears while ignoring you own political party failure back then while demanding the opposition party to do what your own political party refused to do!

Oh, I know you will mention those bills that Mitch McConnell will not put up to a vote but see Dave it is like the Immigration issue and all this ( Assault Weapon Ban and Immigration Reform ) could have been dealt with When Pelosi, Reid and Obama had the House, Senate and Oval office but they were busy working for the Insurance Lobbyists passing a Healthcare Bill they new would fail while not caring about the future children and parents or those illegal immigrants...

So blame your own political party Davey because they had the chance from 2009 to 2011 to put the ban back in place and did nothing!

Wow Brucey, do you get dumber every fucking day of your

Democrat did not have two years of a filibuster proof Senate. They had about two months.

Try to get better informed.