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Negotiate? What are the republicans offering in this "negotiation"? We know what they want, but what are they offering.
All they asked for was a 1 year delay in the individual mandate of the ACA. They believe, as I do, that there are still way too many uncertainties and they need to be reviewed and possibly adjusted.
The President felt that way as it pertained to the corporate mandate...and he took it upon himself to enact the delay for them. He felt the same about certain special interest groups and he did the same.
Above was my answer to your original question.
Now, you may not like their offer...that is fine.
You may want to deny that was their offer.....but the facts are otherwise.
But I did answer your question.
Now....my scenario?
All they asked for was a 1 year delay in the individual mandate of the ACA. They believe, as I do, that there are still way too many uncertainties and they need to be reviewed and possibly adjusted.
The President felt that way as it pertained to the corporate mandate...and he took it upon himself to enact the delay for them. He felt the same about certain special interest groups and he did the same.
Above was my answer to your original question.
Now, you may not like their offer...that is fine.
You may want to deny that was their offer.....but the facts are otherwise.
But I did answer your question.
Now....my scenario?
Yes, that was your answer, but nothing in your answer actually says what the GOP is offering. Please bold the portion in your response that outlines what the GOP is offering. This way I can clearly see it and there is no confusion.
You're smarter than this. Don't play games.
Above was my answer to your original question.
Now, you may not like their offer...that is fine.
You may want to deny that was their offer.....but the facts are otherwise.
But I did answer your question.
Now....my scenario?
Yes, that was your answer, but nothing in your answer actually says what the GOP is offering. Please bold the portion in your response that outlines what the GOP is offering. This way I can clearly see it and there is no confusion.
You're smarter than this. Don't play games.
SUPPOSE President Obama announced:
Unless Republicans agree to my proposal for gun control, I will use my authority as commander in chief to scuttle one aircraft carrier a week in the bottom of the ocean.
I invite Republican leaders to come to the White House and negotiate a deal on board.
Governing by Blackmail
All they asked for was a 1 year delay in the individual mandate of the ACA. They believe, as I do, that there are still way too many uncertainties and they need to be reviewed and possibly adjusted.
The President felt that way as it pertained to the corporate mandate...and he took it upon himself to enact the delay for them. He felt the same about certain special interest groups and he did the same.
Above was my answer to your original question.
Now, you may not like their offer...that is fine.
You may want to deny that was their offer.....but the facts are otherwise.
But I did answer your question.
Now....my scenario?
Yes, that was your answer, but nothing in your answer actually says what the GOP is offering. Please bold the portion in your response that outlines what the GOP is offering. This way I can clearly see it and there is no confusion.
You're smarter than this. Don't play games.
Yes, that was your answer, but nothing in your answer actually says what the GOP is offering. Please bold the portion in your response that outlines what the GOP is offering. This way I can clearly see it and there is no confusion.
You're smarter than this. Don't play games.
SUPPOSE President Obama announced:
Unless Republicans agree to my proposal for gun control, I will use my authority as commander in chief to scuttle one aircraft carrier a week in the bottom of the ocean.
I invite Republican leaders to come to the White House and negotiate a deal on board.
Governing by Blackmail
Of course it's blackmail. It's why they can't describe what is being offered by the GOP in this process.....except for allowing the country to operate again normally.
Look. First off, I am not anti ACA by any means. I am anti ACA in its current form.
There are serious issues with it.
First of all....Insurance will no longer be insurance.
It will be a health care plan.
Why?
Because many people will only buy in when they need to. Most...if not all...would prefer to pay the tax of not having a plan and get a plan when they need it seeing as pre existing conditions is no longer an issue. So most will no longer be buying in "just in case". Instead they will be buying in "when they need it".
Except for who?
Those that regularly need it.
So when you have those that use it paying for it and those that don't only paying for it when they need it.......the costs will skyrocket.
Oh wait....you are asking "what are they offering?"
I didn't get it. My bad. I apologize.
They offered to vote on and pass the budget...
and to open a wider door for the debt limit talks.
RDD...
Basic math...
I will pay 600 a year until I need insurance. Then if I break my leg, I will get a plan...pay the $4000 premium.....pay the 3000 deductible......my 10,000 surgery and after care will only cost me $7000.
Now the insurance company comes up 3000 short. Normally not an issue for the guy normally was paying 4000 a year for NO cost to insurance company when he was healthy....so 5 years of 4000 is 20,000 in premiums...one broken leg...10000 in costs to insurance company....leaving a 10000 profit off that individual over 5 years.
Look. First off, I am not anti ACA by any means. I am anti ACA in its current form.
There are serious issues with it.
First of all....Insurance will no longer be insurance.
It will be a health care plan.
Why?
Because many people will only buy in when they need to. Most...if not all...would prefer to pay the tax of not having a plan and get a plan when they need it seeing as pre existing conditions is no longer an issue. So most will no longer be buying in "just in case". Instead they will be buying in "when they need it".
Except for who?
Those that regularly need it.
So when you have those that use it paying for it and those that don't only paying for it when they need it.......the costs will skyrocket.
Open enrollment prevents what you're talking about. Do you think this hasn't been thought out?
Covering people with pre-existing conditions has been one of the MOST popular topics of ACA and you're arguing against that? LOL good luck.
RDD...
Basic math...
I will pay 600 a year until I need insurance. Then if I break my leg, I will get a plan...pay the $4000 premium.....pay the 3000 deductible......my 10,000 surgery and after care will only cost me $7000.
Now the insurance company comes up 3000 short. Normally not an issue for the guy normally was paying 4000 a year for NO cost to insurance company when he was healthy....so 5 years of 4000 is 20,000 in premiums...one broken leg...10000 in costs to insurance company....leaving a 10000 profit off that individual over 5 years.
You can get open enrollment between oct 1st and march 1st this year, and after that it will just be between October 15th and end December 7th.
Oh wait....you are asking "what are they offering?"
I didn't get it. My bad. I apologize.
They offered to vote on and pass the budget...
and to open a wider door for the debt limit talks.
"Delay ACA or else the federal government gets it in the head"
Wow...that's such noble negotiating
Umm, 70% don't blame the GOP. You might want to get your facts straight.
70% disapprove of the republicans
61% disapprove of the democrats
51% disapprove of Obama
The R went +7 in terms of disapproval from the last poll before the shutdown. Democrats went +5 in disapproval and Obama went +1.
This is different than saying who they blame (39% blame republicans, 30% blame democrats)
That's also a lot different than 1995 when Republicans were getting about 60% of the blame compared to 20% to Clinton.
IOW, 100% blame the government. And they're right.
It's time for everyone to take a step back, put their big boy pants on and start negotiating. The game is over.
Above was my answer to your original question.
Now, you may not like their offer...that is fine.
You may want to deny that was their offer.....but the facts are otherwise.
But I did answer your question.
Now....my scenario?
Yes, that was your answer, but nothing in your answer actually says what the GOP is offering. Please bold the portion in your response that outlines what the GOP is offering. This way I can clearly see it and there is no confusion.
You're smarter than this. Don't play games.
THEY ASKED FOR A ONE YEAR DELAY IN IMPLEMENTING THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.
How much clearer can that be?
SUPPOSE President Obama announced:
Unless Republicans agree to my proposal for gun control, I will use my authority as commander in chief to scuttle one aircraft carrier a week in the bottom of the ocean.
I invite Republican leaders to come to the White House and negotiate a deal on board.
Governing by Blackmail
Of course it's blackmail. It's why they can't describe what is being offered by the GOP in this process.....except for allowing the country to operate again normally.
what is it that you aren't getting?
They first asked to defund the ACA. They believe (per my scenario) that it will not be sustainable.
The Senate Majority leader said "no way".
SO they came back with a one year delay on the individual mandate.
I don't see what it is that you are missing.
Yes, that was your answer, but nothing in your answer actually says what the GOP is offering. Please bold the portion in your response that outlines what the GOP is offering. This way I can clearly see it and there is no confusion.
You're smarter than this. Don't play games.
THEY ASKED FOR A ONE YEAR DELAY IN IMPLEMENTING THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.
How much clearer can that be?
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GOP ASKED FOR. THAT IS NOT WHAT I ASKED.
Do you know that if you ASK for something you have to offer something in return. WHAT IS THE GOP OFFERING IN RETURN FOR THAT ONE YEAR DELAY THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR?
How the hell is this going over your head?
