80% of America wants Socialist Programs

If you spend a trillion dollars on a war....you are Patriotic

If you spend a trillion dollars helping the American people..........you are a Socialist

Which of the two is mandated by that pesky document called the Constitution?

And don't even try to front the General Welfare Clause. :eusa_hand:

Can you show me where any war is mandated?

Oh yes...The General Welfare clause as defined by over a hundred years of court decisions allows Congress to act in the best interests of the people

It is only the right wing flat earthers who oppose doing anything that helps Americans
 
Well, well, seems the cons were trying one more time to lie to you about socialists. This also proves that Americans do not reject socialism, instead 80% embrace it like huggy bear. So stop lying about why voters down the Dems. It surely wasn't over socialism. LOL!


8 in 10 Strongly Opposed to Social Security Cuts Recommended By Deficit Commission Proposal


Lake Research Partners released a new poll Thursday with dire implications for Democrats should Social Security cuts happen on their watch. And once again, the economy and jobs combined whomped the deficit as the primary concern of voters, 42 to 6.

Overall, of the 1,200 likely voters surveyed, 82% of respondents oppose Social Security cuts to reduce the deficit, including 83% of Dems, 78% of Independents, 82% of Republicans, and 74% of Tea Party supporters.


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Pure straw, ass-hat.

The only thing "socialist" about Social Security is the first word of the name.

The government isn't providing anything to anyone.

These are monies that we pay in and get returned to us.

If there are to be cuts in the amounts paid out there must be equal cuts in the amount taken in by the Fed.

There are any number of ways to reduced the deficit without reaching into what is supposed to be a lock-box account.

Its "socialist" because the government taxes you, then invests for you, then gives it back to you. That is "socialism." It certainly isn't free market.

I see no reason to disbelieve the poll, though I would say its a bit of stretch to say that Americans love "socialism" in general because of Social Security.

Americans have yet to grasp that it everyone will need to sacrifice something. To think that people can have a tax cut, not touch social security, medicare, the military, etc., and balance the budget by cutting "waste" and other trivial items such as government wages is an absolute fairy tale.
 
You know you can book a one way flight to Russia.
WTF are you still doing here?
I find it amazing how many people use that as an answer. A different opinion and they want you out of the country.

Come and get me.
Why? You already live in the Peoples Republic of California. That's almost the same thing as a foreign country.

And before you jump all over me you should know I was born and raised in California, Long Beach/Lakewood.
 
Here's the deal, alternet is in the business of cherry picking opinions they like and pretending the opinions are news. If you believe 80% of America wants socialist programs, try running for office as a socialist.
 
Hey, I have to admit, I'm with Republicans on this one. Screw Americans. Let the unfortunate ones starve or live on the street. They can always eat leftovers at some church. Republicans did their jobs stopping abortion. But once the kid is born, they are on their own.

If Americans spend their lives working at a plant that needed to be moved overseas so a few can "make more money", then so be it. That's the way our founding fathers wanted this country to operate. It's all about the super rich squeezing out a few more bucks.

We don't want royalty here. We don't need them. We have multi millionaires and billionaires. They are special and so important to the country. This is why they need to be protected. Why we need to cut their taxes and exempt them from anything that might help the country. They are THAT important.

Obviously, the best way to cut the deficit is to cut benefits for the elderly, those with disability and those on Social Security. The trillions in tax cuts for billionaires needed to happen. It's expensive creating new jobs in China.

In fact, we can give so much more to the super rich if we just:

Cut education
cut building the infrastructure
cut fixing roads
get rid of the EPA
End those pesky clean air and clean water regulations
Close emergency rooms at hospitals (too expensive)


If people want to work, they can become "Cannon Fodder First Class" in the Military. But don't come back injured.

What we need to do is issue more apologies to companies that we charged with fraud and environmental damage. We need cut their tax completely and pay them to "stay" so they can make enough money to make more jobs, "in China". We hate socialism. Unless it's Chinese. Then it's OK.
 
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Well, well, seems the cons were trying one more time to lie to you about socialists. This also proves that Americans do not reject socialism, instead 80% embrace it like huggy bear. So stop lying about why voters down the Dems. It surely wasn't over socialism. LOL!


8 in 10 Strongly Opposed to Social Security Cuts Recommended By Deficit Commission Proposal


Lake Research Partners released a new poll Thursday with dire implications for Democrats should Social Security cuts happen on their watch. And once again, the economy and jobs combined whomped the deficit as the primary concern of voters, 42 to 6.

Overall, of the 1,200 likely voters surveyed, 82% of respondents oppose Social Security cuts to reduce the deficit, including 83% of Dems, 78% of Independents, 82% of Republicans, and 74% of Tea Party supporters.


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"* There is also strong bipartisan support for lifting the cap to impose Social Security taxes on all wages above $106,800. Support for this is stronger when both employers and employees are taxed.

"...Social Security was a particularly important voting issue for independents who voted for a Democrat in this election, voters aged 65 to 74, and older voters who are women, independent, moderate, white and African American.

"Democrats cannot afford to lose these demographic groups.

"That's the simple political calculus. The policy calculus, is that Democrats cannot betray their moral center and be the party responsible for consigning Americans to an old age of poverty and struggle."

Except the moral center for Democrats and Republicans lives on Wall Street.

FLUSH 200 - 300 Republican AND Democrat incumbents from the US Congress in November of 2012, along with Obama, and we'll get Hope and Change that makes a real difference in the lives of 90% of Americans.

Instead of the richest 10%.

8 in 10 Strongly...
 
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who are not."
"Thomas Jefferson "
:clap2:
 
Well, well, seems the cons were trying one more time to lie to you about socialists. This also proves that Americans do not reject socialism, instead 80% embrace it like huggy bear. So stop lying about why voters down the Dems. It surely wasn't over socialism. LOL!


8 in 10 Strongly Opposed to Social Security Cuts Recommended By Deficit Commission Proposal


Lake Research Partners released a new poll Thursday with dire implications for Democrats should Social Security cuts happen on their watch. And once again, the economy and jobs combined whomped the deficit as the primary concern of voters, 42 to 6.

Overall, of the 1,200 likely voters surveyed, 82% of respondents oppose Social Security cuts to reduce the deficit, including 83% of Dems, 78% of Independents, 82% of Republicans, and 74% of Tea Party supporters.


Hot News & Views | AlterNet

How does this prove they want socialism?
 
Who cares? I don't mind roads and shit. I do mind living on credit in debt to nations like China.

With a growing and healthy economy, it's amazing how fast that deficit disappears. Republicans don't understand that. Every-time they are in charge, everything turns to shit.
 
Most people want a retirement program. Few would choose the government to run it. Many realize that having the money when they want to retire may not happen because the government had mismanaged it.
 
When are people going to learn that Socialism is NOT the same thing as Communism. If you lump them both together-you have no idea what one of two of them (or possibly both) really are. I don't support either one-but they are different from one another-and anybody who says otherwise is a fool, and really has no business accusing people of trying to follow them.

Most people (on both sides) really have no clue what socialism is about.
 
When are people going to learn that Socialism is NOT the same thing as Communism. If you lump them both together-you have no idea what one of two of them (or possibly both) really are. I don't support either one-but they are different from one another-and anybody who says otherwise is a fool, and really has no business accusing people of trying to follow them.

Most people (on both sides) really have no clue what socialism is about.

Socialism is legalized stealing under the guise of helping.
 
If you spend a trillion dollars on a war....you are Patriotic

If you spend a trillion dollars helping the American people..........you are a Socialist

If thats the case, I'd rather be a Socialist. The problem is most defense spending goes to defense contractors.
 

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