A bitter pill from the heartland.

[martybegan]

As for those who equate Trump and Joe Biden, that’s false equivalency. Biden has done nothing remotely close to the egregious, anti-American acts of Trump. We can debate the success and mindset of our current president, as we have about most presidents in our lifetimes, but Biden was never a threat to our democracy. Trump is. He is unique among all American presidents for his efforts to keep power at any cost.

All you can do is spam quotes, no original thinking on your own part.

This guy is just as big as a narcissistic asshole as you are,

 

[rampart]

Sadly, many believe the lies. They trust people in authority, without questioning the obvious discrepancies or relying on their own eyes. These are the people who take offense to the truths we tell about Trump.

Try not to take it so personally. Don't be so embarrassed about being conned. Trump is a professional who has conned people far smarter than you.

i really must remember that trump's only great joy in life is conning his business aquaintances and that these magas are merely collateral damage.

 

[berg80]

All you can do is spam quotes, no original thinking on your own part.

This guy is just as big as a narcissistic asshole as you are,

Don't be so defensive. Lashing out at the author, or me, gets you no closer to acknowledging the truth of what he wrote.

 

[berg80]

i really must remember that trump's only great joy in life is conning his business aquaintances and that these magas are merely collateral damage.

Indeed. Now he's trying to steal the shares of his co-founders.

Trump Media sues its co-founders, accuses them of ‘severe mismanagement’​

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/02/trump-media-sues-its-co-founders-accuses-them-of-severe-mismanagement.html

 

[Auld Phart]

I'm agreeing with the author of the column about the parallels between the silence of prominent Germans during Hitler's rise to power and the silence of prominent Repubs who do not speak out in opposition to..........for example..........Trump's attacks on members of the justice system. But I'm concerned the analogy is too complex for the simple minded.

you read, yet you fail to comprehend.

 

[DGS49]

Aside from the usual lies about "cutting Social Security," the main thrust of the Democrats 2024 "campaign" is to convince America that Trump is, to put it mildly, a bad person. Orange Man Bad, so to speak.

They don't mention any of Trump's policies, because Americans are generally in favor of all of them. They cannot cite their own policies, because nobody would want them if fully exposed. On that front, they just lie about how wonderful the country is doing. And of course, they lie about Biden's failing mental health.

That's it: Orange Man Bad.

 

[Auld Phart]

Sadly, many believe the lies. They trust people in authority, without questioning the obvious discrepancies or relying on their own eyes. These are the people who take offense to the truths we tell about Trump.

Try not to take it so personally. Don't be so embarrassed about being conned. Trump is a professional who has conned people far smarter than you.

Trump is a professional who has conned people far smarter than you.

and Biden got 81 million votes.

Which is the bigger con artist.

 

[martybegan]

Don't be so defensive. Lashing out at the author, or me, gets you no closer to acknowledging the truth of what he wrote.

There is no Truth in what he wrote, it's a bad opinion that has been passed around for years now, dressed up as some folksy midwestern screed.

Meanwhile you think women can have penises, crime is reduced by not punishing criminals, and controlling the border and immigration means blanket amnesty.

 

[berg80]

you read, yet you fail to comprehend.

IRONY ALERT!

 

[Auld Phart]

IRONY ALERT!

 

[berg80]

and Biden got 81 million votes.

Which is the bigger con artist.

Yet another false equivalence. After Biden won, did he spread lies about actually winning by a bigger margin as Trump did in 2016 when he told lies about millions of illegal immigrants voting for Hillary? A lie he told because he couldn't handle the truth about losing the popular vote.

 

[rampart]

Aside from the usual lies about "cutting Social Security," the main thrust of the Democrats 2024 "campaign" is to convince America that Trump is, to put it mildly, a bad person. Orange Man Bad, so to speak.

They don't mention any of Trump's policies, because Americans are generally in favor of all of them. They cannot cite their own policies, because nobody would want them if fully exposed. On that front, they just lie about how wonderful the country is doing. And of course, they lie about Biden's failing mental health.

That's it: Orange Man Bad.

bull shit.

the only policy trump is really interested in, other than trump, is to be the best possible ally to putin and bin salmen.

 

[berg80]

There is no Truth in what he wrote

Getting past your denial is the first step to recovery. Good luck.

 

[martybegan]

Getting past your denial is the first step to recovery. Good luck.

There is no hope for spambot SJW soi bois like you, all you can do is post other people's bullshit, and pretend to understand it.

 

[SeaMajor7]

bull shit.

the only policy trump is really interested in, other than trump, is to be the best possible ally to putin and bin salmen.

The Narrative

 

[Auld Phart]

Getting past your denial is the first step to recovery. Good luck.

IRONY ALERT!

 

[berg80]

Aside from the usual lies about "cutting Social Security," the main thrust of the Democrats 2024 "campaign" is to convince America that Trump is, to put it mildly, a bad person. Orange Man Bad, so to speak.

They don't mention any of Trump's policies, because Americans are generally in favor of all of them. They cannot cite their own policies, because nobody would want them if fully exposed. On that front, they just lie about how wonderful the country is doing. And of course, they lie about Biden's failing mental health.

That's it: Orange Man Bad.

This is not subjective. We all saw it. Plenty of leaders today try to convince the masses we did not see what we saw, but our eyes don’t deceive. (If leaders began a yearslong campaign today to convince us that the Baltimore bridge did not collapse Tuesday morning, would you ever believe them?) Trust your eyes. Trump on Jan. 6 launched the most serious threat to our system of government since the Civil War. You know that. You saw it.

The facts involving Trump are crystal clear, and as news people, we cannot pretend otherwise, as unpopular as that might be with a segment of our readers. There aren’t two sides to facts. People who say the earth is flat don’t get space on our platforms. If that offends them, so be it.

Sorry that the truth offends you.

 

[OldFlame]

Our Trump reporting upsets some readers, but there aren’t two sides to facts: Letter from the Editor

A more-than-occasional arrival in the email these days is a question expressed two ways, one with dripping condescension and the other with courtesy:

Why don’t our opinion platforms treat Donald Trump and other politicians exactly the same way. Some phrase it differently, asking why we demean the former president’s supporters in describing his behavior as monstrous, insurrectionist and authoritarian. I feel for those who write. They believe in Trump and want their local news source to recognize what they see in him.

The angry writers denounce me for ignoring what they call the Biden family crime syndicate and criminality far beyond that of Trump. They quote news sources of no credibility as proof the mainstream media ignores evidence that Biden, not Trump, is the criminal dictator. The courteous writers don’t go down that road. They politely ask how we can discount the passions and beliefs of the many people who believe in Trump.

This is a tough column to write, because I don’t want to demean or insult those who write me in good faith. I’ve started it a half dozen times since November but turned to other topics each time because this needle hard to thread. No matter how I present it, I’ll offend some thoughtful, decent people.

The north star here is truth. We tell the truth, even when it offends some of the people who pay us for information.

The truth is that Donald Trump undermined faith in our elections in his false bid to retain the presidency. He sparked an insurrection intended to overthrow our government and keep himself in power. No president in our history has done worse.
https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024...wo-sides-to-facts-letter-from-the-editor.html

I can't help being hopeful when a column like that is published. Quixotically so I'm afraid. Any time the simple truth is written as an appeal to Trump supporters to nudge them towards reality I kid myself in to believing it is the one that's going to get through. Probably because I want it to so badly.

Chris Quinn, the author, has apparently received an unusual amount of positive feedback from the piece. Perhaps because his genuine attempt not to offend comes through. I hope it makes a difference.

And this is the stupid shit you read to bolster your confirmation bias, no wonder you're all so pathetically brain washed. You're gullible, impressionable morons.

I can't wait until the next D presidential nominee challenges election results, and it will happen. You guys will love the precedent you've set.

 

[OldFlame]

An honest examination of the facts reveals some parallels between Hitler's rise to power, as noted in the book referenced by Quinn, and Trump. For example, how many prominent Repubs have come out and denounced Don's attacks on members of the justice system and their families? Mitch McConnell was initially harsh in his assessment of Trump after the 1/6 insurrection. Then he voted to acquit after the impeachment trial and endorsed Don for prez because he thought he could use Trump's presidency to advance a personal agenda.

See how the comparison has merit?

Where are all of the insurrection charges against Trump, did your op ed author forget to mention them? Strange he would do that since that's what he' accusing him of. Instead he spouts lies and bullshit, and idiots like you lap it up.

 

[OldFlame]

They aren't lies. That's the point of the column. I see it had no affect on you. It's unfortunate but not unexpected.

He accused Trump of insurrection, where are the charges? He's an outright liar.