A citizen with a gun took out the Texas killer as he fled.

[JustAnotherNut]

And yes this is political as the demands for gun control if implemented could have allowed this killer to get away.

Nonsense.

No one is advocating prohibiting citizens from carrying concealed firearms; and any measure seeking to do so would be invalidated, as the courts have held such measures to be un-Constitutional.

At least you’re consistent at being ignorant, wrong, and a liar.

You mean except for California...right? Or the defacto ban in New York.....where they refuse to issue permits.....and where D.C. is slow walking their permits.....you mean except for those...right?

Why do you people pretend that gun laws don't work when they work in other countries?

Actually they don't.......

Gun Facts | Gun Control and Crime in non-US Countries

Do countries with stricter gun laws really have less crime or fewer homicides?

Comparing murder rates and gun ownership across countries - Crime Prevention Research Center

 

[depotoo]

Prime targets of propaganda are those believing more gun laws will stop the criminal.

Rumors for now later it will be confirmed if :

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You people are so easily fooled: prime targets of propaganda.

 

[Esmeralda]

You can with a truck or a bomb. Don’t think it would happen? You are wrong.

Gun deaths. How about knifing, etc. Someone he’ll bent on killing will find a way. Car, trucks, knives, bombs, you name it

Boom. Proof that laws don't work. Thank you

Laws dont' work...

amazingly, they never have,


tell us, O Brilliant One?


How many MORE laws on firearms would we have to enact, before this stops?

another 1,000?

5,000?

10,000?

Do we have the military do house to house, to register firearms?

what is your solution?

Make laws that it's illegal to sell to criminals?
already on the books

(criminals dont' care)

They work in other countries, gun laws. The US has by far the highest number of gun deaths than any other developed nation. If America isn't great, this is one reason.

You don't kill 26 people in seconds with a knife. The car thing is not going to become a common method as barriers can be erected. We'll start seeing those everywhere to the same extent we have baggage checks when we go through airports.

It has happened, but it's not going to happen practically every day as mass shootings do. There are more ways to prevent such things than we now have to prevent gun shootings,

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I’ll ask you the same question, are you that obtuse? You really think criminals will quit selling them on the black market?
If so, I have a bridge to sell ya...

Honey, you take away guns, the criminal still has them, not the law abiding citizen.

He was dishonorably discharged from the Air Force 3 years ago. He couldn’t legally own a weapon.

I don’t know. If he really wanted one, he could get one easily anyways since we’ve been so completely lax on gun laws for so many decades.

What does does the legal gun owner have in common with the illegal gun owner?

They both have availability.

Honey, you take away guns, no one has them.

They can't sell them if they don't exist.
What do you advocate to close the loopholes that allow them access?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Shooters LinkedIn page:
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Loser.

 

[SmokeALib]

May have very well saved dozens of more lives had he had plans to go on a further shooting spree.

Your point is so ridiculous, so fucked up. If they guy had not had automatic guns to go in and kill all those people, no one would need a gun to shoot him. You're saying isn't it great we have dentists to fill cavaties when if people took care of their teeth, they wouldn't have cavaties. If we didn't let private citizens have automatic weapons, they couldn't go into a place and kill 26 people in seconds in the first place. You gun nuts are absurd.

How do you "not let" citizens have automatic weapons? Make them illegal? Then, only criminals will have automatic weapons.
Don't quite have all your groceries bagged - doya?

Poor logic and poor knowledge of the facts. In countries with very strict gun laws, guns go out of circulation in general and it is not a fact that only criminals have guns. Criminals can't get a hold of them either.

And another point: someone whose screen name is kill a liberal has absolutely no credibility whatsoever.

Huh? My screename is depicting a muslim smoking a cigarette.
And if you don't think that criminals won't find a way to get guns, they wouldn't be very good criminals. This country has very good criminals. Hillary is a good example.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Tell us where, Esmeralda.

May have very well saved dozens of more lives had he had plans to go on a further shooting spree.

Your point is so ridiculous, so fucked up. If they guy had not had automatic guns to go in and kill all those people, no one would need a gun to shoot him. You're saying isn't it great we have dentists to fill cavaties when if people took care of their teeth, they wouldn't have cavaties. If we didn't let private citizens have automatic weapons, they couldn't go into a place and kill 26 people in seconds in the first place. You gun nuts are absurd.

How do you "not let" citizens have automatic weapons? Make them illegal? Then, only criminals will have automatic weapons.
Don't quite have all your groceries bagged - doya?

Poor logic and poor knowledge of the facts. In countries with very strict gun laws, guns go out of circulation in general and it is not a fact that only criminals have guns. Criminals can't get a hold of them either.

And another point: someone whose screen name is kill a liberal has absolutely no credibility whatsoever.

Everywhere.

 

[ChrisL]

Right. So if we can't take away rights from Muslims because of the MANY loons among them, then you can't take away my rights for the loons either. Your feelings about my rights are rather irrelevant. The fact that you seem to think that guns and/or murder will go away because of more useless laws tells me that your opinions and feelings are worth absolute zero.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I’ll ask you the same question, are you that obtuse? You really think criminals will quit selling them on the black market?
If so, I have a bridge to sell ya...

Honey, you take away guns, the criminal still has them, not the law abiding citizen.

He was dishonorably discharged from the Air Force 3 years ago. He couldn’t legally own a weapon.

What does does the legal gun owner have in common with the illegal gun owner?

They both have availability.

Honey, you take away guns, no one has them.

They can't sell them if they don't exist.
What do you advocate to close the loopholes that allow them access?

Let's make meth and heroin illegal, nobody would have them!

Leftards make dumbasses look like Einstein.

 

[Esmeralda]

He was law abiding?

yup


up til he got the Dishonorable Discharge.

(Which made it illegal for him to buy a firearm legally)

Boom. Proof that laws don't work. Thank you

Laws dont' work...

amazingly, they never have,


tell us, O Brilliant One?


How many MORE laws on firearms would we have to enact, before this stops?

another 1,000?

5,000?

10,000?

Do we have the military do house to house, to register firearms?

what is your solution?

Make laws that it's illegal to sell to criminals?
already on the books

(criminals dont' care)

They work in other countries, gun laws. The US has by far the highest number of gun deaths than any other developed nation. If America isn't great, this is one reason.

'Other' countries don't have a 2nd Amendment that allows citizens the right to bear arms.

'Other' countries don't have 400+ million firearms in the hands of their citizens that would have to be confiscated or turned in to make your dream come true

Nobody talks about the millions of legal gun owners that have owned guns for years and never shot anyone or used in any type of crime.

They only want to change the laws because of the hundreds(?) of people that do

That's an absurd argument. ALL of our laws exist because there are people who do the wrong thing. Most people are not going to murder someone, but we still have laws against murder. Every single law we have is there because of people who do the wrong thing: like drunk driving, like child abuse, and so on. Most people are not drunk drivers, most people don't abuse children, but we still have laws against those things.

 

[sealybobo]

Tell me what law would have stopped this criminal or any other hell bent on killing?

It was illegal for him to own guns after his dishonorable discharge.

May have very well saved dozens of more lives had he had plans to go on a further shooting spree.

The shooter was a citizen with a gun too. Maybe people with dishonorable discharges shouldn't be able to buy more than a shotgun, 22, muzzle loader or crossbow?

See there could have been a regulation that would have stopped this. No guns for people who are dishonorably discharged.

Good.

Hey, it's a bunch of white christian southern conservative church goers that got shot up. If they don't want gun regulations who am I to tell them what they want?

No doubt all NRA members and here we are advocating for them. Their brethren are like, shit happens.

So we should have no laws

 

[Esmeralda]

13 Mass Killings Where No Guns Were Involved

That was all Julio Gonzalez (pictured above) needed to set the Happy Land social club in Brooklyn on fire in March of 1990. After starting the fire near the entrance, he pulled down the metal gate and left 87 people inside to burn or suffocate to death within minutes.

The reason? Gonzalez had gotten into a heated argument earlier that evening with his girlfriend, who was checking coats inside the club.

The Sandy Hook massacre was not the largest mass murder at an American school. That occurred way back on May 18, 1927, at the Bath Consolidated School in Michigan.

The school's caretaker was apparently angry about property taxes; so he placed dynamite at numerous spots around the school over a period of months and then set a timer for the explosion to occur during classes. A total of 45 people died that day in Bath Township.

Timothy McVeigh used fuel oil and fertilizer to build the Ryder truck bomb that exploded in front of a federal building in Oklahoma City in April of 1995.

A total of 168 people perished in what was then the deadliest terror attack on American soil.

You are citing rarieties as opposed to commonalities. In the US we have a mass shooting almost every other day. Very different than when someone intentionally sets a fire that kills a lot of people happening once in ten years.

It goes to show that people who are intent on killing others are going to do so using whatever means. No laws are going to stop someone who is intent upon murdering people. Hello?

Also, just because there are SOME loons who abuse their rights, in no way means that the rest of us have to lose our rights for it. Just like your arguments about Muslims. Just because there are a bunch of loons amon

Just because some Muslims are loons why take away rights for all Muslims?

All Muslims want a world wide caliphate. The ones who choose not to do it via violence does it via uncontrolled births.

What a fucking idiot.

 

[depotoo]

One of the strictest, from just a few days ago. Nine people dismembered. Rather a bullet than be dismembered.
Police find nine bodies hidden in man’s apartment

Show me any nation that has forbidden guns that has a zero murder rate.

How many MORE laws on firearms would we have to enact, before this stops?

another 1,000?

5,000?

10,000?

We'll never know, since you gun nuts already won. We'll never be one of those nations with a murder rate of 1.0 or less because of that. I've already noted in this thread that the number of guns in this country, and the ease at which criminals can get their hands on them because of that, is the best argument against gun control.

It may not be zero, but it is a hell of a lot lower than in the US.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I’ll ask you the same question, are you that obtuse? You really think criminals will quit selling them on the black market?
If so, I have a bridge to sell ya...

Honey, you take away guns, the criminal still has them, not the law abiding citizen.

What does does the legal gun owner have in common with the illegal gun owner?

They both have availability.

Honey, you take away guns, no one has them.

They can't sell them if they don't exist.
What do you advocate to close the loopholes that allow them access?

Let's make meth and heroin illegal, nobody would have them!

Leftards make dumbasses look like Einstein.

You're actually saying that people would make guns illegally?

 

[depotoo]

Quit being obtuse.

Tell me what law would have stopped this criminal or any other hell bent on killing?

It was illegal for him to own guns after his dishonorable discharge.

The shooter was a citizen with a gun too. Maybe people with dishonorable discharges shouldn't be able to buy more than a shotgun, 22, muzzle loader or crossbow?

See there could have been a regulation that would have stopped this. No guns for people who are dishonorably discharged.

Good.

Hey, it's a bunch of white christian southern conservative church goers that got shot up. If they don't want gun regulations who am I to tell them what they want?

No doubt all NRA members and here we are advocating for them. Their brethren are like, shit happens.

So we should have no laws

 

[sealybobo]

May have very well saved dozens of more lives had he had plans to go on a further shooting spree.

The shooter was a citizen with a gun too. Maybe people with dishonorable discharges shouldn't be able to buy more than a shotgun, 22, muzzle loader or crossbow?

See there could have been a regulation that would have stopped this. No guns for people who are dishonorably discharged.

Actually if the stories about him being dishonorably discharge are true then he wasn't a "citizen with a gun" because in Texas a DD means you can't legally own a firearm. It is the same as a felony conviction.

He was a criminal with an illegal gun. In other words he didn't abide by the existing laws so what makes you Moon Bats think any other law would have stopped him?

You make it easier for him to get a gun not harder

 

[depotoo]

3D printers.

I’ll ask you the same question, are you that obtuse? You really think criminals will quit selling them on the black market?
If so, I have a bridge to sell ya...

Honey, you take away guns, the criminal still has them, not the law abiding citizen.

Honey, you take away guns, no one has them.

They can't sell them if they don't exist.
What do you advocate to close the loopholes that allow them access?

Let's make meth and heroin illegal, nobody would have them!

Leftards make dumbasses look like Einstein.

You're actually saying that people would make guns illegally?

 

[Esmeralda]

May have very well saved dozens of more lives had he had plans to go on a further shooting spree.

Your point is so ridiculous, so fucked up. If they guy had not had automatic guns to go in and kill all those people, no one would need a gun to shoot him. You're saying isn't it great we have dentists to fill cavaties when if people took care of their teeth, they wouldn't have cavaties. If we didn't let private citizens have automatic weapons, they couldn't go into a place and kill 26 people in seconds in the first place. You gun nuts are absurd.

How do you "not let" citizens have automatic weapons? Make them illegal? Then, only criminals will have automatic weapons.
Don't quite have all your groceries bagged - doya?

Poor logic and poor knowledge of the facts. In countries with very strict gun laws, guns go out of circulation in general and it is not a fact that only criminals have guns. Criminals can't get a hold of them either.

And another point: someone whose screen name is kill a liberal has absolutely no credibility whatsoever.

Huh? My screename is depicting a muslim smoking a cigarette.
And if you don't think that criminals won't find a way to get guns, they wouldn't be very good criminals. This country has very good criminals. Hillary is a good example.

I'm not talking about your picture, I'm talking about your screen name. It says smoke a lib, which means kill a liberal. And I have reported you.

 

[Esmeralda]

One of the strictest, from just a few days ago. Nine people dismembered. Rather a bullet than be dismembered.
Police find nine bodies hidden in man’s apartment

Show me any nation that has forbidden guns that has a zero murder rate.

How many MORE laws on firearms would we have to enact, before this stops?

another 1,000?

5,000?

10,000?

We'll never know, since you gun nuts already won. We'll never be one of those nations with a murder rate of 1.0 or less because of that. I've already noted in this thread that the number of guns in this country, and the ease at which criminals can get their hands on them because of that, is the best argument against gun control.

It may not be zero, but it is a hell of a lot lower than in the US.

You don't kill 26 people in a few seconds by dismembering them. Get the fucking point.

 

[sealybobo]

Sure he was. Up until he murdered a bunch of people, proving murder laws only work with law abiding people.

He was law abiding?

yup


up til he got the Dishonorable Discharge.

(Which made it illegal for him to buy a firearm legally)

Boom. Proof that laws don't work. Thank you

Laws dont' work...

amazingly, they never have,


tell us, O Brilliant One?


How many MORE laws on firearms would we have to enact, before this stops?

another 1,000?

5,000?

10,000?

Do we have the military do house to house, to register firearms?

what is your solution?

Make laws that it's illegal to sell to criminals?
already on the books

(criminals dont' care)

They work in other countries, gun laws. The US has by far the highest number of gun deaths than any other developed nation. If America isn't great, this is one reason.

You should check out Chicago. The strictest gun laws in the country. Also highest murder rate per capita in the country.
I'm getting tired of shooting down your ridiculous posts. You must be embarrassed.

What are the gun laws in the surrounding states? Maybe Chicago should build a wall