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Why call it a "public" school if you aren't allowed to publicly express your views there? Hmm?
Why call it a "public" school if you aren't allowed to publicly express your views there? Hmm?
Certain views are not to be taken seriously. Anti-human rhetoric is not to be taken seriously. Anti-abortion is anti-human. The same people who consider a fetus a full moral person (how is that determined? by definition, thus begs the question) tends to also condone mistreatment of animals if not outrightly support it. Why are "ideals" about human nature so important as to wage protests against human needs. School girls are daughters, not mothers. Our society has not prepared them for this life yet culture demands it through highly sexualized culture. The burden should not be against this vulnerable population because you have some unscientific ideal that a full moral person is any thing that can become a human. That is highly controversial, certainly not factual. It is pure speculation and since harm of a serious nature can cascade from lack of abortion information or anti-abortion views that belittle 14 year old girls. To force anti-human propaganda to be displayed which takes a stand against girls who need support to make their decision.
So, you liberals resort to dehumanizing anyone who disagrees with you or your views? That's rather disturbing, and rather typical of you.
As for why we think a fetus is a human being, we resort to science to explain why:
There is ample biologic, physiologic, hormonal, and behavioral evidence for fetal and neonatal pain. As early as 8 weeks post-fertilization, face skin receptors appear. At 14 weeks, sensory fibers grow into the spinal cord and connect with the thalamus. At 13-16 weeks, monoamine fibers reach the cerebral cortex, so that by 17-20 weeks the thalamo-cortical relays penetrate the cortex. [ ] In fact, by 20 weeks post-fertilization the fetal brain has the full complement of neurons that are present in adulthood
http://www.nrlc.org/uploads/fetalpain/TestimonyColleenMalloyHR3803.pdf
Which should be devastating to your view that human fetuses are nothing but a clump of cells. If even one toe remains in the womb, it is nothing but a clump of cells, whilst it is obvious to the rest of us what it is. A human being. They feel pain just as adults do. They react to pain in the same way adults do. You can't explain that away. Also, more science:
It can be clearly demonstrated that fetuses seek to evade certain stimuli in a manner in which an infant or an adult would be interpreted as a reaction to pain.
Richard T.F. Schmidt, MD, former President of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
Trust me, we're far more scientific than you are on the subject.
Certain views are not to be taken seriously. Anti-human rhetoric is not to be taken seriously. Anti-abortion is anti-human. The same people who consider a fetus a full moral person (how is that determined? by definition, thus begs the question) tends to also condone mistreatment of animals if not outrightly support it. Why are "ideals" about human nature so important as to wage protests against human needs. School girls are daughters, not mothers. Our society has not prepared them for this life yet culture demands it through highly sexualized culture. The burden should not be against this vulnerable population because you have some unscientific ideal that a full moral person is any thing that can become a human. That is highly controversial, certainly not factual. It is pure speculation and since harm of a serious nature can cascade from lack of abortion information or anti-abortion views that belittle 14 year old girls. To force anti-human propaganda to be displayed which takes a stand against girls who need support to make their decision.
So, you liberals resort to dehumanizing anyone who disagrees with you or your views? That's rather disturbing, and rather typical of you.
As for why we think a fetus is a human being, we resort to science to explain why:
http://www.nrlc.org/uploads/fetalpain/TestimonyColleenMalloyHR3803.pdf
Which should be devastating to your view that human fetuses are nothing but a clump of cells. If even one toe remains in the womb, it is nothing but a clump of cells, whilst it is obvious to the rest of us what it is. A human being. They feel pain just as adults do. They react to pain in the same way adults do. You can't explain that away. Also, more science:
It can be clearly demonstrated that fetuses seek to evade certain stimuli in a manner in which an infant or an adult would be interpreted as a reaction to pain.
Richard T.F. Schmidt, MD, former President of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
Trust me, we're far more scientific than you are on the subject.
You are more scientific? Lol
Such a joke. You thought abortion was a form of contraceptive. You are not more scientific, you are a fool.
And have you ever been pregnant?
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So, you liberals resort to dehumanizing anyone who disagrees with you or your views? That's rather disturbing, and rather typical of you.
As for why we think a fetus is a human being, we resort to science to explain why:
http://www.nrlc.org/uploads/fetalpain/TestimonyColleenMalloyHR3803.pdf
Which should be devastating to your view that human fetuses are nothing but a clump of cells. If even one toe remains in the womb, it is nothing but a clump of cells, whilst it is obvious to the rest of us what it is. A human being. They feel pain just as adults do. They react to pain in the same way adults do. You can't explain that away. Also, more science:
Richard T.F. Schmidt, MD, former President of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
Trust me, we're far more scientific than you are on the subject.
You are more scientific? Lol
Such a joke. You thought abortion was a form of contraceptive. You are not more scientific, you are a fool.
And have you ever been pregnant?
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Geez. I don't need to be pregnant to know what goes on during pregnancy. I study more than law. I study human biology, biomechanics and the like. Given that I cited two experts on fetal neurology that completely contradicts your views on abortion, I do believe I gave a more scientific opinion than you or gnarly did.
Abortion is indeed a contraceptive. It prevents unwanted birth, just like condoms and birth control pills do, thus it is a contraceptive. Use your head, Luissa.
Said in typical right wing ad hominum fashion....Can u guys ever have a discussion without insulting people?
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At any rate I'm done debating the issue. It's plainly evident I'll get nothing but ad hominem and halfhearted arguments out the liberal crowd on this subject.
Said in typical right wing ad hominum fashion....Can u guys ever have a discussion without insulting people?
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Who are you? Did you miss the part where Luissa referred to me as a "fool"? Selective reading much?
So, you liberals resort to dehumanizing anyone who disagrees with you or your views? That's rather disturbing, and rather typical of you.
As for why we think a fetus is a human being, we resort to science to explain why:
http://www.nrlc.org/uploads/fetalpain/TestimonyColleenMalloyHR3803.pdf
Which should be devastating to your view that human fetuses are nothing but a clump of cells. If even one toe remains in the womb, it is nothing but a clump of cells, whilst it is obvious to the rest of us what it is. A human being. They feel pain just as adults do. They react to pain in the same way adults do. You can't explain that away. Also, more science:
Richard T.F. Schmidt, MD, former President of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
Trust me, we're far more scientific than you are on the subject.
You are more scientific? Lol
Such a joke. You thought abortion was a form of contraceptive. You are not more scientific, you are a fool.
And have you ever been pregnant?
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Geez. I don't need to be pregnant to know what goes on during pregnancy. I study more than law. I study human biology, anatomy and physiology, bio mechanics and the like. Given that I cited two experts on fetal neurology that completely contradicts your views on abortion, I do believe I gave a more scientific opinion than you or gnarly did. Plus I do believe I crushed a key tenet of pro-choice advocates. Human fetuses are in fact human, and not just a clump of cells to be discarded. They react to pain and stimuli the same we already born humans do.
Abortion is indeed a contraceptive. It prevents unwanted birth, just like condoms and birth control pills do, thus it is a contraceptive. Use your head, Luissa. Your arguments and gnarly's are the 5th and 6th arguments I've taken down today.
Technically it's not a contraceptive since contraceptives are hormones. Condoms are prophylactics. Abortion is a procedure.
Study harder.
You are more scientific? Lol
Such a joke. You thought abortion was a form of contraceptive. You are not more scientific, you are a fool.
And have you ever been pregnant?
Sent from my iPhone using the tears of Raider's fans.
Geez. I don't need to be pregnant to know what goes on during pregnancy. I study more than law. I study human biology, anatomy and physiology, bio mechanics and the like. Given that I cited two experts on fetal neurology that completely contradicts your views on abortion, I do believe I gave a more scientific opinion than you or gnarly did. Plus I do believe I crushed a key tenet of pro-choice advocates. Human fetuses are in fact human, and not just a clump of cells to be discarded. They react to pain and stimuli the same we already born humans do.
Abortion is indeed a contraceptive. It prevents unwanted birth, just like condoms and birth control pills do, thus it is a contraceptive. Use your head, Luissa. Your arguments and gnarly's are the 5th and 6th arguments I've taken down today.
Technically it's not a contraceptive since contraceptives are hormones. Condoms are prophylactics. Abortion is a procedure.
Study harder.
While I am a staunch supporter of First Amendment rights, I believe that the public school is an inappropriate forum for this display.
The student should do this outside in public. Not in school. It's just too controversial and of course the school administration can legally quash it based on the "disruptive" nature of the issue.
Then they should stop teaching about the wonders of abortion to our children in school as well.
They do? Do you have proof of that?
I am guessing no, because you are making shit up.
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Technically it's not a contraceptive since contraceptives are hormones. Condoms are prophylactics. Abortion is a procedure.
Study harder.
Technically, ice is a collections of low energy atoms, shoelaces are fibers and MIDI sequencing is a procedure.
WHAT?
Then they should stop teaching about the wonders of abortion to our children in school as well.
They do? Do you have proof of that?
I am guessing no, because you are making shit up.
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Well you see, being 23 years old myself, I remember being forced to learn about abortion in school, three times. Two sex ed courses (that were done during our English class time slot) and once in Health class, that was mandated for all children in 11th grade for half a year.
Contraceptives prevent abortions, so Republicans should be in favor of contraception.
Technically it's not a contraceptive since contraceptives are hormones. Condoms are prophylactics. Abortion is a procedure.
Study harder.
Technically, ice is a collections of low energy atoms, shoelaces are fibers and MIDI sequencing is a procedure.
WHAT?
Abortion doesn't prevent anything. It is a procedure done after prevention failed.
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So, you liberals resort to dehumanizing anyone who disagrees with you or your views? That's rather disturbing, and rather typical of you.
There is ample...evidence for fetal and neonatal pain.
Which should be devastating to your view that human fetuses are nothing but a clump of cells.
Trust me, we're far more scientific than you are on the subject. And thusly, have more informed opinions about abortion than you do. What do you have? Your emotions? Scare tactics? Smear campaigns?
While we readily admit that the first organisms were bacteria-like and that the most complex organism of all is our own kind, it is considered bad form to take this as any kind of progression. . . . [One] is flirting with sin if one says a worm is a lower animal and a vertebrate is a higher animal, even though their fossil origins will be found in lower and higher strata. —John Tyler Bonner
