A great example of why socialism is better than "charity"

[Tommy Tainant]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

Ah, so you just want unelected government bureaucrat critters to choose who gets help.

Thanks for clearing that up. But riddle me this, if Gubmint be so benificent, why didn't they already have a place for the tranny to go? It's not like we don't spend an ungodly amount of money on welfare and homeless programs already.

I dont want anybody to choose. People should get help as a right. Sub zero temps outside should not see a distressed woman turned on to the streets. Ignorance is no excuse.

 

[danielpalos]

Who is being ripped off. The sex change guy is paying for your new hip.

Both should pay for their own needs and anyone being taxed for unneeded crap like sex changes is being ripped off

But they have paid - that is the point of socialism.

No they have not and the point of socialism is to FORCE people to pay for others which is one of the reasons it universally fails

They have paid through taxation. And we havent been forced to pay for anything. Britain voted to introduce the NHS because we wanted a better life. Thats why we kicked Churchill out. I will tell you what failing is. Its about hobbling around on a dodgy hip because you cant afford the £25k to get it fixed.
That is a failed society.

Taxation is forced whether voted for or not which is what defines a failed society

if you were Good, Ten simple Commandments from a God would be enough, not "forced" taxation for the Expense of Government.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Both should pay for their own needs and anyone being taxed for unneeded crap like sex changes is being ripped off

But they have paid - that is the point of socialism.

No, the point of socialism is that they HAVEN'T paid, and they don't want to. Socialism is about making someone ELSE pay.

They have paid through their taxes. What part of that is so complicated ?

What part of "Freeloaders" is so complicated for YOU?

Who is a freeloader ?

The tranny

 

[danielpalos]

But they have paid - that is the point of socialism.

No, the point of socialism is that they HAVEN'T paid, and they don't want to. Socialism is about making someone ELSE pay.

They have paid through their taxes. What part of that is so complicated ?

What part of "Freeloaders" is so complicated for YOU?

capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment, not a natural rate of employment.

Sorry that is myth as we have proven

appealing to ignorance is worse than myth.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Both should pay for their own needs and anyone being taxed for unneeded crap like sex changes is being ripped off

But they have paid - that is the point of socialism.

No they have not and the point of socialism is to FORCE people to pay for others which is one of the reasons it universally fails

They have paid through taxation. And we havent been forced to pay for anything. Britain voted to introduce the NHS because we wanted a better life. Thats why we kicked Churchill out. I will tell you what failing is. Its about hobbling around on a dodgy hip because you cant afford the £25k to get it fixed.
That is a failed society.

Taxation is forced whether voted for or not which is what defines a failed society

if you were Good, Ten simple Commandments would be enough, not "forced" taxation for the Expense of Government.

Most are good and do not even need ten

 

[Soupnazi630]

No, the point of socialism is that they HAVEN'T paid, and they don't want to. Socialism is about making someone ELSE pay.

They have paid through their taxes. What part of that is so complicated ?

What part of "Freeloaders" is so complicated for YOU?

capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment, not a natural rate of employment.

Sorry that is myth as we have proven

appealing to ignorance is worse than myth.

Which is what you are doing.


There is no natural rate of unemployment

 

[Soupnazi630]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

Ah, so you just want unelected government bureaucrat critters to choose who gets help.

Thanks for clearing that up. But riddle me this, if Gubmint be so benificent, why didn't they already have a place for the tranny to go? It's not like we don't spend an ungodly amount of money on welfare and homeless programs already.

I dont want anybody to choose. People should get help as a right. Sub zero temps outside should not see a distressed woman turned on to the streets. Ignorance is no excuse.

So you support slavery

 

[danielpalos]

But they have paid - that is the point of socialism.

No they have not and the point of socialism is to FORCE people to pay for others which is one of the reasons it universally fails

They have paid through taxation. And we havent been forced to pay for anything. Britain voted to introduce the NHS because we wanted a better life. Thats why we kicked Churchill out. I will tell you what failing is. Its about hobbling around on a dodgy hip because you cant afford the £25k to get it fixed.
That is a failed society.

Taxation is forced whether voted for or not which is what defines a failed society

if you were Good, Ten simple Commandments would be enough, not "forced" taxation for the Expense of Government.

Most are good and do not even need ten

in right wing fantasy?

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

 

[boedicca]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

Ah, so you just want unelected government bureaucrat critters to choose who gets help.

Thanks for clearing that up. But riddle me this, if Gubmint be so benificent, why didn't they already have a place for the tranny to go? It's not like we don't spend an ungodly amount of money on welfare and homeless programs already.

I dont want anybody to choose. People should get help as a right. Sub zero temps outside should not see a distressed woman turned on to the streets. Ignorance is no excuse.

Help As A Right = Power To Enslave Others

No thank you. I'll pass.

 

[Soupnazi630]

No they have not and the point of socialism is to FORCE people to pay for others which is one of the reasons it universally fails

They have paid through taxation. And we havent been forced to pay for anything. Britain voted to introduce the NHS because we wanted a better life. Thats why we kicked Churchill out. I will tell you what failing is. Its about hobbling around on a dodgy hip because you cant afford the £25k to get it fixed.
That is a failed society.

Taxation is forced whether voted for or not which is what defines a failed society

if you were Good, Ten simple Commandments would be enough, not "forced" taxation for the Expense of Government.

Most are good and do not even need ten

in right wing fantasy?

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

In reality.

 

[danielpalos]

They have paid through their taxes. What part of that is so complicated ?

What part of "Freeloaders" is so complicated for YOU?

capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment, not a natural rate of employment.

Sorry that is myth as we have proven

appealing to ignorance is worse than myth.

Which is what you are doing.


There is no natural rate of unemployment

lol. There is no natural rate of employment.

A natural rate of unemployment is an economic term. Anyone who wants to learn about the issue, understands that concept and does not appeal to ignorance of it.

 

[danielpalos]

They have paid through taxation. And we havent been forced to pay for anything. Britain voted to introduce the NHS because we wanted a better life. Thats why we kicked Churchill out. I will tell you what failing is. Its about hobbling around on a dodgy hip because you cant afford the £25k to get it fixed.
That is a failed society.

Taxation is forced whether voted for or not which is what defines a failed society

if you were Good, Ten simple Commandments would be enough, not "forced" taxation for the Expense of Government.

Most are good and do not even need ten

in right wing fantasy?

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

In reality.

reality requires valid arguments not fallacy.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Who is being ripped off. The sex change guy is paying for your new hip.

Both should pay for their own needs and anyone being taxed for unneeded crap like sex changes is being ripped off

But they have paid - that is the point of socialism.

No, the point of socialism is that they HAVEN'T paid, and they don't want to. Socialism is about making someone ELSE pay.

They have paid through their taxes. What part of that is so complicated ?

Through force and violence which is why the UK is a backwards failed society

What force and violence. People voted in a landslide to elect a socialist government to introduce the NHS and make their world better. Not one political party would be stupid enough to propose an American style mess of a system.

 

[Soupnazi630]

What part of "Freeloaders" is so complicated for YOU?

capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment, not a natural rate of employment.

Sorry that is myth as we have proven

appealing to ignorance is worse than myth.

Which is what you are doing.


There is no natural rate of unemployment

lol. There is no natural rate of employment.

A natural rate of unemployment is an economic term. Anyone who wants to learn about the issue, understands that concept and does not appeal to ignorance of it.

No it is not an economic term it is a term that failed socialists dreamed up

There is no natural rate of unemployment as we settled in another thread.

You are ignnorant of economics and your argument rests on that ignorance.

 

[bodecea]

How's charity filling the gaps for all those government workers not getting paid?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

What part of "Freeloaders" is so complicated for YOU?

capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment, not a natural rate of employment.

Sorry that is myth as we have proven

appealing to ignorance is worse than myth.

Which is what you are doing.


There is no natural rate of unemployment

lol. There is no natural rate of employment.

A natural rate of unemployment is an economic term. Anyone who wants to learn about the issue, understands that concept and does not appeal to ignorance of it.

There has to be unemployment to keep wages down.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Both should pay for their own needs and anyone being taxed for unneeded crap like sex changes is being ripped off

But they have paid - that is the point of socialism.

No, the point of socialism is that they HAVEN'T paid, and they don't want to. Socialism is about making someone ELSE pay.

They have paid through their taxes. What part of that is so complicated ?

Through force and violence which is why the UK is a backwards failed society

What force and violence. People voted in a landslide to elect a socialist government to introduce the NHS and make their world better. Not one political party would be stupid enough to propose an American style mess of a system.

When people vote for government to violate the rights of others it is still force and violence.

 

[Soupnazi630]

capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment, not a natural rate of employment.

Sorry that is myth as we have proven

appealing to ignorance is worse than myth.

Which is what you are doing.


There is no natural rate of unemployment

lol. There is no natural rate of employment.

A natural rate of unemployment is an economic term. Anyone who wants to learn about the issue, understands that concept and does not appeal to ignorance of it.

There has to be unemployment to keep wages down.

False

 

[Soupnazi630]

How's charity filling the gaps for all those government workers not getting paid?

How many are asking for charity?

 

[boedicca]

How's charity filling the gaps for all those government workers not getting paid?

I see people doing food drives in my Next Door neighborhood.