A lawyer in California is pushing a ballot measure to legalize killing gay people

[Harry Dresden]

On the positive side you would have a documented list of the homophobes in CA from those who signed the ballot measure.

Why are you picking on CA black Democrats, 70% of them voted to ban gay marriage...remember.

That's right. They did. Are you trying to make some point with that?

Yes why are you calling CA black Democrats homophobes?

Where is it that I am calling CA black Democrats homophobes? Could you point out where that was said? (besides your own post, of course)

With 70% of CA blacks voting to ban gay marriage there's a pretty good chance they will get caught up in your homophobe sting.

lots of people in this state voted that down.... twice....it shows you how many phony pro-gay people there are in this state..

 

[Statistikhengst]

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Just FYI...

Under each category the layout = % of population, Demographic, 54 Voting in favor. So for the first row men voting were 46% of the voting population and voted 54% in favor of Prop 8.

The only demographic voting 70% or more in favor was those who attended religious services weekly, Republicans, and those who identified as "Conservative".

Table 1.
The Vote on Proposition 8

Sex
(46%) Men 54
(54%) Women 49

Age
(17%) 18‐29 45
(21%) 30‐44 48
(38%) 45‐64 47
(23%) 65 + 67

Race/Ethnicity
(68%) White 49
(7%) African American 58
(14%) Latino/Hispanic 59
(7%) Asian 48

Attendance of Religious Services
(45%) weekly 70
(12%) monthly 48
(14%) holidays and special occasions 44
(29%) hardly ever 30

Party Identification
(45%) Democratic 30
(18%) Independent 53
(34%) Republican 81

Political Ideology
(37%) Liberal 22
(27%) Moderate 51
(36%) Conservative 82

Have Lesbian/Gay Family or Friends
(26%) No 60
(74%) Yes 49

Source: DBR Survey of California Voters for Equality California, November 6-16, 2008​

http://www.thetaskforce.org/static_html/downloads/reports/reports/pi_prop8_1_6_09.pdf


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So, we see that a member here very put out an incorrect statistic concerning this vote. That member claimed that 70% of blacks in CA voted to ban gay marriage, but I see there that black voters in CA, who were 8% of the electorate on that day, voted for Prop 8 with 58%, and not 70%....

 

[WorldWatcher]

>

Just FYI...

Under each category the layout = % of population, Demographic, 54 Voting in favor. So for the first row men voting were 46% of the voting population and voted 54% in favor of Prop 8.

The only demographic voting 70% or more in favor was those who attended religious services weekly, Republicans, and those who identified as "Conservative".

Table 1.
The Vote on Proposition 8

Sex
(46%) Men 54
(54%) Women 49

Age
(17%) 18‐29 45
(21%) 30‐44 48
(38%) 45‐64 47
(23%) 65 + 67

Race/Ethnicity
(68%) White 49
(7%) African American 58
(14%) Latino/Hispanic 59
(7%) Asian 48

Attendance of Religious Services
(45%) weekly 70
(12%) monthly 48
(14%) holidays and special occasions 44
(29%) hardly ever 30

Party Identification
(45%) Democratic 30
(18%) Independent 53
(34%) Republican 81

Political Ideology
(37%) Liberal 22
(27%) Moderate 51
(36%) Conservative 82

Have Lesbian/Gay Family or Friends
(26%) No 60
(74%) Yes 49

Source: DBR Survey of California Voters for Equality California, November 6-16, 2008​

http://www.thetaskforce.org/static_html/downloads/reports/reports/pi_prop8_1_6_09.pdf


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So, we see that a member here very incorrectly put out a statistic concerning this vote. That member claimed that 70% of black in CA voted to ban gay marriage, but I see there that black voters in CA, who were 8% of the electorate on that day, voted for Prop 8 with 58%, and not 70%....

Actually he also thinks that all black people are registered democrats.


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[Katzndogz]

This lawyer has a history of proposing outrageous ballot initiatives. He's been trying to draw attention to the ridiculousness of the initiative process for years.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

More information.

It is, in true fascist form, called "The Sodomite Suppression Act"

http://oag.ca.gov/system/files/initiatives/pdfs/15-0008 (Sodomy)_0.pdf

Since this is public domain and I am sure that people want a good laugh out of this nonsense, I will not (and have the right to) publish it in it's entirety:

"SODOMITE SUPPRESSION ACT

Penal Code section 39 ​

a) The abominable crime against nature known as buggery, called also sodomy, is a monstrous evil that Almighty God, giver of freedom and liberty, commands us to suppress on pain of our utter destruction even as he overthrew Sodom and Gomorrha.

b) Seeing that it is better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God's just wrath against us for the folly of tolerating-wickedness in our midst, the People of California wisely command, in the fear of God, that any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death by bullets to the head or by any other convenient method.

c) No person shall distribute, perform, or transmit sodomistic propaganda directly or indirectly by any means to any person under the age of majority. Sodomistic propaganda is defined as anything aimed at creating an interest in or an acceptance of human sexual relations other than between a man and a woman. Every offender shall be fined $1 million per occurrence, and/or imprisoned up to 10 years, and/or expelled from the boundaries of the state of California for up to life.

d) No person shall serve in any public office, nor serve in public employment, nor enjoy any public benefit, who is a sodomite or who espouses sodomistic propaganda or who belongs to any group that does.

e) This law is effective immediately and shall not be rendered ineffective nor invalidated by any court, state or federal, until heard by a quorum of the Supreme Court of California consisting only of judges who are neither sodomites nor subject to disqualification hereunder.

f) The state has an affirmative duty to defend and enforce this law as written, and every member of the public has standing to seek its enforcement and obtain reimbursement for all costs and attorney's fees in so doing, and further, should the state persist in inaction over 1 year after due notice, the general public is empowered and deputized to execute all the provisions hereunder extra-judicially, immune from any charge and indemnified by the state against any and all liability.

g) This law shall be known as "The Sodomite Suppression Act" and be numbered as section 39 in Title 3 of the Penal Code, pertaining to offences against the sovereignty of the state. The text shall be prominently posted in every public school classroom. All laws in conflict with this law are to that extent invalid."

This man is a true patriot.

 

[Flopper]

This guy sounds like a perfect candidate for ISIS. He'd fit right in.

As the San Francisco Chronicle and Sacramento Bee reported, the proposal would require the execution of anyone who touches a person of the same sex for sexual gratification by "bullets to the head or by any other convenient method." It declares that it's "better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God's just wrath." Private citizens would be allowed to step in to act as executioners if the state didn't within a year, meaning that the murder of gay and lesbian people would effectively be legalized.

A lawyer in California is pushing a ballot measure to legalize killing gay people - Vox

In 2004, McLaughlin tried to submit an initiative that would allow the King James Bible into California classrooms as a text book.

 

[Harry Dresden]

That's right. They did. Are you trying to make some point with that?

Yes why are you calling CA black Democrats homophobes?

Where is it that I am calling CA black Democrats homophobes? Could you point out where that was said? (besides your own post, of course)

With 70% of CA blacks voting to ban gay marriage there's a pretty good chance they will get caught up in your homophobe sting.

Ah....so you are just making stuff up and attributing it to me. Like photoshopping. How does that work as far as furthering your side of the debate?

I'm a conservative I don't debate with the left I defeat them. I throw them to the ground and kick dirt in their faces while I laugh.

 

[Statistikhengst]

More information.

It is, in true fascist form, called "The Sodomite Suppression Act"

http://oag.ca.gov/system/files/initiatives/pdfs/15-0008 (Sodomy)_0.pdf

Since this is public domain and I am sure that people want a good laugh out of this nonsense, I will not (and have the right to) publish it in it's entirety:

"SODOMITE SUPPRESSION ACT

Penal Code section 39 ​

a) The abominable crime against nature known as buggery, called also sodomy, is a monstrous evil that Almighty God, giver of freedom and liberty, commands us to suppress on pain of our utter destruction even as he overthrew Sodom and Gomorrha.

b) Seeing that it is better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God's just wrath against us for the folly of tolerating-wickedness in our midst, the People of California wisely command, in the fear of God, that any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death by bullets to the head or by any other convenient method.

c) No person shall distribute, perform, or transmit sodomistic propaganda directly or indirectly by any means to any person under the age of majority. Sodomistic propaganda is defined as anything aimed at creating an interest in or an acceptance of human sexual relations other than between a man and a woman. Every offender shall be fined $1 million per occurrence, and/or imprisoned up to 10 years, and/or expelled from the boundaries of the state of California for up to life.

d) No person shall serve in any public office, nor serve in public employment, nor enjoy any public benefit, who is a sodomite or who espouses sodomistic propaganda or who belongs to any group that does.

e) This law is effective immediately and shall not be rendered ineffective nor invalidated by any court, state or federal, until heard by a quorum of the Supreme Court of California consisting only of judges who are neither sodomites nor subject to disqualification hereunder.

f) The state has an affirmative duty to defend and enforce this law as written, and every member of the public has standing to seek its enforcement and obtain reimbursement for all costs and attorney's fees in so doing, and further, should the state persist in inaction over 1 year after due notice, the general public is empowered and deputized to execute all the provisions hereunder extra-judicially, immune from any charge and indemnified by the state against any and all liability.

g) This law shall be known as "The Sodomite Suppression Act" and be numbered as section 39 in Title 3 of the Penal Code, pertaining to offences against the sovereignty of the state. The text shall be prominently posted in every public school classroom. All laws in conflict with this law are to that extent invalid."

This man is a true patriot.

Yes, I can imagine you finding a fascist to be a patriot.

 

[Statistikhengst]

This guy sounds like a perfect candidate for ISIS. He'd fit right in.

As the San Francisco Chronicle and Sacramento Bee reported, the proposal would require the execution of anyone who touches a person of the same sex for sexual gratification by "bullets to the head or by any other convenient method." It declares that it's "better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God's just wrath." Private citizens would be allowed to step in to act as executioners if the state didn't within a year, meaning that the murder of gay and lesbian people would effectively be legalized.

A lawyer in California is pushing a ballot measure to legalize killing gay people - Vox

In 2004, McLaughlin tried to submit an initiative that would allow the King James Bible into California classrooms as a text book.

Not just as a textbook, but as required reading.

 

[bodecea]

Why are you picking on CA black Democrats, 70% of them voted to ban gay marriage...remember.

That's right. They did. Are you trying to make some point with that?

Yes why are you calling CA black Democrats homophobes?

Where is it that I am calling CA black Democrats homophobes? Could you point out where that was said? (besides your own post, of course)

With 70% of CA blacks voting to ban gay marriage there's a pretty good chance they will get caught up in your homophobe sting.

lots of people in this state voted that down.... twice....it shows you how many phony pro-gay people there are in this state..

Nothing was voted down you know. You might want to know a little more about what went on in CA before speaking up.

 

[BluesLegend]

I'm a conservative I don't debate with the left I defeat them. I throw them to the ground and kick dirt in their faces while I laugh.

Post pictures or it never happened!

Ahahaha have you noticed who controls congress lately? But hey you libtards are only 40 seats down in the House

 

[Derideo_Te]

I'm a conservative I don't debate with the left I defeat them. I throw them to the ground and kick dirt in their faces while I laugh.

Post pictures or it never happened!

Ahahaha have you noticed who controls congress lately? But hey you libtards are only 40 seats down in the House

Thank you for tacitly admitting that you were lying. Have a nice day.

 

[BluesLegend]

That's right. They did. Are you trying to make some point with that?

Yes why are you calling CA black Democrats homophobes?

Where is it that I am calling CA black Democrats homophobes? Could you point out where that was said? (besides your own post, of course)

With 70% of CA blacks voting to ban gay marriage there's a pretty good chance they will get caught up in your homophobe sting.

lots of people in this state voted that down.... twice....it shows you how many phony pro-gay people there are in this state..

Nothing was voted down you know. You might want to know a little more about what went on in CA before speaking up.

California, arguably one of the most liberal gay states in the nation voted to BAN gay marriage, that's fucking hilarious. More so that 70% of the liberal's own African American base voted to ban gay marriage as did a majority of Hispanics. What are you people going to do when Hispanics take over government and the courts and ban gay marriage? Ahahaha that's the demographics you keep yapping about

 

[bodecea]

Yes why are you calling CA black Democrats homophobes?

Where is it that I am calling CA black Democrats homophobes? Could you point out where that was said? (besides your own post, of course)

With 70% of CA blacks voting to ban gay marriage there's a pretty good chance they will get caught up in your homophobe sting.

lots of people in this state voted that down.... twice....it shows you how many phony pro-gay people there are in this state..

Nothing was voted down you know. You might want to know a little more about what went on in CA before speaking up.

California, arguably one of the most liberal gay states in the nation voted to BAN gay marriage, that's fucking hilarious. More so that 70% of the liberal's own African American base voted to ban gay marriage as did a majority of Hispanics. What are you people going to do when Hispanics take over government and the courts and ban gay marriage? Ahahaha that's the demographics you keep yapping about

You keep saying that....and yet it's quite untrue. Is that how you get thru life? With such untruths?

 

[whitehall]

"Bullets to the head"? The problem is all we know about the alleged proposal is what some reporter interpreted and spun to the blog sites.

 

[Borillar]

A bat shit crazy homophobe who wants to kill gay people is bad enough.

That the creature is a lawyer is downright scary!

Same way I feel about you faggots as politicians, lobbyist, teachers or many other positions which give you a platform to spread your vile and filth .....................

Well, I guess that's 3 people who would sign the petition then.

 

[BluesLegend]

Where is it that I am calling CA black Democrats homophobes? Could you point out where that was said? (besides your own post, of course)

With 70% of CA blacks voting to ban gay marriage there's a pretty good chance they will get caught up in your homophobe sting.

lots of people in this state voted that down.... twice....it shows you how many phony pro-gay people there are in this state..

Nothing was voted down you know. You might want to know a little more about what went on in CA before speaking up.

California, arguably one of the most liberal gay states in the nation voted to BAN gay marriage, that's fucking hilarious. More so that 70% of the liberal's own African American base voted to ban gay marriage as did a majority of Hispanics. What are you people going to do when Hispanics take over government and the courts and ban gay marriage? Ahahaha that's the demographics you keep yapping about

You keep saying that....and yet it's quite untrue. Is that how you get thru life? With such untruths?

LOL you are losing it, this was a statewide election the results are a matter of public record. Then gays in California had to beg the courts to overturn the ban against the will of California voters California man what a bunch of gay haters .

 

[Harry Dresden]

This lawyer has a history of proposing outrageous ballot initiatives. He's been trying to draw attention to the ridiculousness of the initiative process for years.

he is just another religious crackpot.....who happens to be a Lawyer......

 

[Harry Dresden]

More information.

It is, in true fascist form, called "The Sodomite Suppression Act"

http://oag.ca.gov/system/files/initiatives/pdfs/15-0008 (Sodomy)_0.pdf

Since this is public domain and I am sure that people want a good laugh out of this nonsense, I will not (and have the right to) publish it in it's entirety:

"SODOMITE SUPPRESSION ACT

Penal Code section 39 ​

a) The abominable crime against nature known as buggery, called also sodomy, is a monstrous evil that Almighty God, giver of freedom and liberty, commands us to suppress on pain of our utter destruction even as he overthrew Sodom and Gomorrha.

b) Seeing that it is better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God's just wrath against us for the folly of tolerating-wickedness in our midst, the People of California wisely command, in the fear of God, that any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death by bullets to the head or by any other convenient method.

c) No person shall distribute, perform, or transmit sodomistic propaganda directly or indirectly by any means to any person under the age of majority. Sodomistic propaganda is defined as anything aimed at creating an interest in or an acceptance of human sexual relations other than between a man and a woman. Every offender shall be fined $1 million per occurrence, and/or imprisoned up to 10 years, and/or expelled from the boundaries of the state of California for up to life.

d) No person shall serve in any public office, nor serve in public employment, nor enjoy any public benefit, who is a sodomite or who espouses sodomistic propaganda or who belongs to any group that does.

e) This law is effective immediately and shall not be rendered ineffective nor invalidated by any court, state or federal, until heard by a quorum of the Supreme Court of California consisting only of judges who are neither sodomites nor subject to disqualification hereunder.

f) The state has an affirmative duty to defend and enforce this law as written, and every member of the public has standing to seek its enforcement and obtain reimbursement for all costs and attorney's fees in so doing, and further, should the state persist in inaction over 1 year after due notice, the general public is empowered and deputized to execute all the provisions hereunder extra-judicially, immune from any charge and indemnified by the state against any and all liability.

g) This law shall be known as "The Sodomite Suppression Act" and be numbered as section 39 in Title 3 of the Penal Code, pertaining to offences against the sovereignty of the state. The text shall be prominently posted in every public school classroom. All laws in conflict with this law are to that extent invalid."

This man is a true patriot.

does this guys bigotry make you hard steve?....

 

[Statistikhengst]

More information.

It is, in true fascist form, called "The Sodomite Suppression Act"

http://oag.ca.gov/system/files/initiatives/pdfs/15-0008 (Sodomy)_0.pdf

Since this is public domain and I am sure that people want a good laugh out of this nonsense, I will not (and have the right to) publish it in it's entirety:

"SODOMITE SUPPRESSION ACT

Penal Code section 39 ​

a) The abominable crime against nature known as buggery, called also sodomy, is a monstrous evil that Almighty God, giver of freedom and liberty, commands us to suppress on pain of our utter destruction even as he overthrew Sodom and Gomorrha.

b) Seeing that it is better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God's just wrath against us for the folly of tolerating-wickedness in our midst, the People of California wisely command, in the fear of God, that any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death by bullets to the head or by any other convenient method.

c) No person shall distribute, perform, or transmit sodomistic propaganda directly or indirectly by any means to any person under the age of majority. Sodomistic propaganda is defined as anything aimed at creating an interest in or an acceptance of human sexual relations other than between a man and a woman. Every offender shall be fined $1 million per occurrence, and/or imprisoned up to 10 years, and/or expelled from the boundaries of the state of California for up to life.

d) No person shall serve in any public office, nor serve in public employment, nor enjoy any public benefit, who is a sodomite or who espouses sodomistic propaganda or who belongs to any group that does.

e) This law is effective immediately and shall not be rendered ineffective nor invalidated by any court, state or federal, until heard by a quorum of the Supreme Court of California consisting only of judges who are neither sodomites nor subject to disqualification hereunder.

f) The state has an affirmative duty to defend and enforce this law as written, and every member of the public has standing to seek its enforcement and obtain reimbursement for all costs and attorney's fees in so doing, and further, should the state persist in inaction over 1 year after due notice, the general public is empowered and deputized to execute all the provisions hereunder extra-judicially, immune from any charge and indemnified by the state against any and all liability.

g) This law shall be known as "The Sodomite Suppression Act" and be numbered as section 39 in Title 3 of the Penal Code, pertaining to offences against the sovereignty of the state. The text shall be prominently posted in every public school classroom. All laws in conflict with this law are to that extent invalid."

This man is a true patriot.

does this guys bigotry make you hard steve?....

lol....