A message from a veteran about firearms in this country

[boedicca]

Didn't you take an oath to defend the Constitution? Do you happen to know what it says? JW

The constitution says that "the people" as a whole are allowed to bear arms to form "well regulated militias"

Basically, there is a collective right for civilians to form an armed force to stand by in readiness to defend the country. The second amendment is therefore fulfilled by the existence of the U.S military

We've discussed your misguided interpretation of the 2nd Amendment on this site many times. The Bill of Rights enumerates INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS; it is not a collectivist treatise.

 

[Auld Phart]

I am a veteran of the United States Army. I served as a 12B (Combat Engineer) in the 37th Engineer Battalion, part of the illustrious 82nd Airborne Division

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why any civilian needs or wants to own an assault rifle. During OSUT (a form of initial training where Basic and AIT are rolled into one course), we learned that our rifles were deadly weapons, designed solely for killing the enemy on a battlefield. When we trained with our weapons, we had to shoot a "qualification" test. We were presented with forty popup targets, one after another at different distances, from fifty to three hundred meters, all in very quick succession. We had to kill at least twenty three targets to pass the test, but most of us, including those of us who never fired a gun before, easily shot thirty or more targets. All this was in the span of less than two minutes, and we even had to reload once in that time. I don't get why any civilian needs to kill thirty people in two minutes, unless he is deliberately causing carnage and mass death.

The civilian AR15 is just a M-4 carbine by any other name. The only difference is that it does not have burst capacity. That is not nearly as big a difference as the NRA makes it out to be. We never, ever used burst mode in the military, since it wasted ammo, was inaccurate, and generally useless. Besides for that difference, the AR 15 is the exact same as the M4. The M4's features are designed to kill a large number of people in a short amount of time, including a detachable magazine which allows for rapid reloading and a buffer tube and muzzle brake which dampens recoil, so that a shooter can fire off a large number of rounds with minimal affect on accuracy.

All the arguments about " I need my AR 15 for hunting" or "I need my Ar15 for self defense" are entirely ridiculous. The 5.56 Nato round, which the Ar15 uses, is designed to pierce body armor. Which deer wears body armor? And your fantasies about shooting fifteen home invaders at once is just that: a fantasy which will likely never happen. The only real purpose of the AR 15 in American society is to kill large numbers of clubgoers, schoolchildren, or innocent bystanders at a time.

And for those of you who claim that "my Ar15 will protect me from tyranny," guess what, you're wrong. In my time in the military, I saw that no civilian rebellion would ever stand a chance against us. We have M1 Abrams tanks which can survive multiple rocket hits. We have drones which can bomb your house while being controlled by a person a thousand miles away. If worst came to worst, we have nuclear weapons which can quickly bring a seceding city or state into the stone age.

let's also talk about concealed carry. You are civilians. You are not deployed to a foreign country halfway around the globe. You are not fighting basically an entire for the sake of securing their oil supplies. You are not under constant threat of attack from people defending their homes from foreign invaders.

Therefore, you have no reason to carry a gun in public. Nobody needs to carry a handgun into mcDonald's or into a bank. You are not in a war zone.

And don;t give me the bs that concealed carry decreases crime. It has been proven, by STANFORD UNIVERSITY, that concealed carry actually INCREASES violent crime:

Right-to-carry gun laws linked to increase in violent crime, Stanford research shows

Trust me, I used to be an NRA member myself when i was 18. I bought into the propaganda because i was stupid, uninformed, and thought it was fun to play with guns. After joining the military, I learned to treat firearms, especially assault rifles, as tools of death and destruction, something which should be kept out of most civilian hands.

The right wing claims to respect veterans, so please listen to the words of a former soldier. I trained with assault rifles. I carried an assault rifle as part of my job. I can tell you that the military M-4 and the Ar-15 are nearly identical, and that no civilian needs a weapon designed to kill dozens of people in a matter of minutes.

Liar.

BTW, I have never heard anybody say they need an AR15 for hunting lol.
And I have never met a veteran who did not fully support the right of American civilians to pack weapons. Never.

So I know you're a lying piece of garbage who is pretending to be a soldier of honor. Despicable.

Hes a paid poster

No doubt getting minimum wage

 

[OKTexas]

I am a veteran of the United States Army. I served as a 12B (Combat Engineer) in the 37th Engineer Battalion, part of the illustrious 82nd Airborne Division

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why any civilian needs or wants to own an assault rifle. During OSUT (a form of initial training where Basic and AIT are rolled into one course), we learned that our rifles were deadly weapons, designed solely for killing the enemy on a battlefield. When we trained with our weapons, we had to shoot a "qualification" test. We were presented with forty popup targets, one after another at different distances, from fifty to three hundred meters, all in very quick succession. We had to kill at least twenty three targets to pass the test, but most of us, including those of us who never fired a gun before, easily shot thirty or more targets. All this was in the span of less than two minutes, and we even had to reload once in that time. I don't get why any civilian needs to kill thirty people in two minutes, unless he is deliberately causing carnage and mass death.

The civilian AR15 is just a M-4 carbine by any other name. The only difference is that it does not have burst capacity. That is not nearly as big a difference as the NRA makes it out to be. We never, ever used burst mode in the military, since it wasted ammo, was inaccurate, and generally useless. Besides for that difference, the AR 15 is the exact same as the M4. The M4's features are designed to kill a large number of people in a short amount of time, including a detachable magazine which allows for rapid reloading and a buffer tube and muzzle brake which dampens recoil, so that a shooter can fire off a large number of rounds with minimal affect on accuracy.

All the arguments about " I need my AR 15 for hunting" or "I need my Ar15 for self defense" are entirely ridiculous. The 5.56 Nato round, which the Ar15 uses, is designed to pierce body armor. Which deer wears body armor? And your fantasies about shooting fifteen home invaders at once is just that: a fantasy which will likely never happen. The only real purpose of the AR 15 in American society is to kill large numbers of clubgoers, schoolchildren, or innocent bystanders at a time.

And for those of you who claim that "my Ar15 will protect me from tyranny," guess what, you're wrong. In my time in the military, I saw that no civilian rebellion would ever stand a chance against us. We have M1 Abrams tanks which can survive multiple rocket hits. We have drones which can bomb your house while being controlled by a person a thousand miles away. If worst came to worst, we have nuclear weapons which can quickly bring a seceding city or state into the stone age.

let's also talk about concealed carry. You are civilians. You are not deployed to a foreign country halfway around the globe. You are not fighting basically an entire for the sake of securing their oil supplies. You are not under constant threat of attack from people defending their homes from foreign invaders.

Therefore, you have no reason to carry a gun in public. Nobody needs to carry a handgun into mcDonald's or into a bank. You are not in a war zone.

And don;t give me the bs that concealed carry decreases crime. It has been proven, by STANFORD UNIVERSITY, that concealed carry actually INCREASES violent crime:

Right-to-carry gun laws linked to increase in violent crime, Stanford research shows

Trust me, I used to be an NRA member myself when i was 18. I bought into the propaganda because i was stupid, uninformed, and thought it was fun to play with guns. After joining the military, I learned to treat firearms, especially assault rifles, as tools of death and destruction, something which should be kept out of most civilian hands.

The right wing claims to respect veterans, so please listen to the words of a former soldier. I trained with assault rifles. I carried an assault rifle as part of my job. I can tell you that the military M-4 and the Ar-15 are nearly identical, and that no civilian needs a weapon designed to kill dozens of people in a matter of minutes.

Liar.

BTW, I have never heard anybody say they need an AR15 for hunting lol.
And I have never met a veteran who did not fully support the right of American civilians to pack weapons. Never.

So I know you're a lying piece of garbage who is pretending to be a soldier of honor. Despicable.

They're great for prairie dogs and wild hogs.

 

[Lewdog]

Back when the constitution was written, the vast majority of voters rejected the idea of a standing army. However, the founding fathers thought that it was important for the country to have a standing military in case of emergencies.

Therefore, they wrote the second amendment in order to grant the "people" (not individuals, but the people as a whole) to form and maintain a military in spite of the public opposition to a standing army.

"The well regulated militia" refers to a group of volunteer citizenry who are trained and drilled in the use of arms to defend their homes. Aka the U.S military. I was a part of the "well regulated militia." A gun nut who owns 80 assault rifles in his basement is not.

What you fail to realize is the State mentioned in the second amendment is NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, it is the individual States. The terms State and Federal Government are NEVER use interchangeably in the Constitution. Also no where does the Constitution use the terms for governments and the people (meaning individual citizens), interchangeably. So the second amendment says the individual citizen has a right to keep and bear arms. The first portion of the amendment is not a limiter to the second. BTW what you think a person needs is irrelevant, an AR style weapon is good for a lot more than just killing people. I bet you were a Cat 4 on your ASFAB.

I actually received a 99 on my ASVAB. And i know how to spell ASVAB properly (in case you change your last post, just know that you spelled it as "asFab" instead of asvab)

Well it's been a while since I used the term, excuse the mistake. That said, I now know you're a liar. 99 if a perfect score, it 26 years in the military I only encountered 1 person who scored a 99 and his deviations were off the charts, he had to take it again on a different version. He still scored a 99, his highest education level attained was 7th grade. How do I know these details, I was his recruiter.

So now that I've addressed my irrelevant mistake and your lie, how about you address what I said about the second amendment?

Getting a 99 isn't THAT rare. I got a 99 on the ASVAB as well. I also passed the DLAB without being fluent in any foreign languages either.

You don't need to know a foreign language to pass the DLAB, it measures a persons ability to lean a language, not what they know. And yes a 99 is exceptionally rare, I dealt with thousands of service records, knew hundreds of recruiters in all services in my 5.5 years in recruiting and was aware of 1. I'd also make a bet that you weren't in the combat engineers.

Ok, found my old contract. It's listed on there as AFQT. So... you ready to put up or shut up?

 

[OKTexas]

What you fail to realize is the State mentioned in the second amendment is NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, it is the individual States. The terms State and Federal Government are NEVER use interchangeably in the Constitution. Also no where does the Constitution use the terms for governments and the people (meaning individual citizens), interchangeably. So the second amendment says the individual citizen has a right to keep and bear arms. The first portion of the amendment is not a limiter to the second. BTW what you think a person needs is irrelevant, an AR style weapon is good for a lot more than just killing people. I bet you were a Cat 4 on your ASFAB.

I actually received a 99 on my ASVAB. And i know how to spell ASVAB properly (in case you change your last post, just know that you spelled it as "asFab" instead of asvab)

Well it's been a while since I used the term, excuse the mistake. That said, I now know you're a liar. 99 if a perfect score, it 26 years in the military I only encountered 1 person who scored a 99 and his deviations were off the charts, he had to take it again on a different version. He still scored a 99, his highest education level attained was 7th grade. How do I know these details, I was his recruiter.

So now that I've addressed my irrelevant mistake and your lie, how about you address what I said about the second amendment?

Getting a 99 isn't THAT rare. I got a 99 on the ASVAB as well. I also passed the DLAB without being fluent in any foreign languages either.

You don't need to know a foreign language to pass the DLAB, it measures a persons ability to lean a language, not what they know. And yes a 99 is exceptionally rare, I dealt with thousands of service records, knew hundreds of recruiters in all services in my 5.5 years in recruiting and was aware of 1. I'd also make a bet that you weren't in the combat engineers.

You want to make a bet on if I got a 99 on the ASVAB? If you make it worth my while I'll dig up my original contract that shows my score and that I was being accepted as a Crytpological Linguist. So make it worth my while and I'll scan and post it.

Where did I say you didn't? I said it was extremely rare. And I was right, you were no 12B.

 

[westwall]

I am a veteran of the United States Army. I served as a 12B (Combat Engineer) in the 37th Engineer Battalion, part of the illustrious 82nd Airborne Division

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why any civilian needs or wants to own an assault rifle. During OSUT (a form of initial training where Basic and AIT are rolled into one course), we learned that our rifles were deadly weapons, designed solely for killing the enemy on a battlefield. When we trained with our weapons, we had to shoot a "qualification" test. We were presented with forty popup targets, one after another at different distances, from fifty to three hundred meters, all in very quick succession. We had to kill at least twenty three targets to pass the test, but most of us, including those of us who never fired a gun before, easily shot thirty or more targets. All this was in the span of less than two minutes, and we even had to reload once in that time. I don't get why any civilian needs to kill thirty people in two minutes, unless he is deliberately causing carnage and mass death.

The civilian AR15 is just a M-4 carbine by any other name. The only difference is that it does not have burst capacity. That is not nearly as big a difference as the NRA makes it out to be. We never, ever used burst mode in the military, since it wasted ammo, was inaccurate, and generally useless. Besides for that difference, the AR 15 is the exact same as the M4. The M4's features are designed to kill a large number of people in a short amount of time, including a detachable magazine which allows for rapid reloading and a buffer tube and muzzle brake which dampens recoil, so that a shooter can fire off a large number of rounds with minimal affect on accuracy.

All the arguments about " I need my AR 15 for hunting" or "I need my Ar15 for self defense" are entirely ridiculous. The 5.56 Nato round, which the Ar15 uses, is designed to pierce body armor. Which deer wears body armor? And your fantasies about shooting fifteen home invaders at once is just that: a fantasy which will likely never happen. The only real purpose of the AR 15 in American society is to kill large numbers of clubgoers, schoolchildren, or innocent bystanders at a time.

And for those of you who claim that "my Ar15 will protect me from tyranny," guess what, you're wrong. In my time in the military, I saw that no civilian rebellion would ever stand a chance against us. We have M1 Abrams tanks which can survive multiple rocket hits. We have drones which can bomb your house while being controlled by a person a thousand miles away. If worst came to worst, we have nuclear weapons which can quickly bring a seceding city or state into the stone age.

let's also talk about concealed carry. You are civilians. You are not deployed to a foreign country halfway around the globe. You are not fighting basically an entire for the sake of securing their oil supplies. You are not under constant threat of attack from people defending their homes from foreign invaders.

Therefore, you have no reason to carry a gun in public. Nobody needs to carry a handgun into mcDonald's or into a bank. You are not in a war zone.

And don;t give me the bs that concealed carry decreases crime. It has been proven, by STANFORD UNIVERSITY, that concealed carry actually INCREASES violent crime:

Right-to-carry gun laws linked to increase in violent crime, Stanford research shows

Trust me, I used to be an NRA member myself when i was 18. I bought into the propaganda because i was stupid, uninformed, and thought it was fun to play with guns. After joining the military, I learned to treat firearms, especially assault rifles, as tools of death and destruction, something which should be kept out of most civilian hands.

The right wing claims to respect veterans, so please listen to the words of a former soldier. I trained with assault rifles. I carried an assault rifle as part of my job. I can tell you that the military M-4 and the Ar-15 are nearly identical, and that no civilian needs a weapon designed to kill dozens of people in a matter of minutes.

I can care less about your belief. i own them, and I enjoy them. I can see no reason for people to own fast cars either. However, I own one of them too. The facts are the COTUS of the USA says that to keep people like YOU in check, the Founders made sure we could be every bit as well armed as you...to keep YOU under control. See how that works?

 

[Lewdog]

I actually received a 99 on my ASVAB. And i know how to spell ASVAB properly (in case you change your last post, just know that you spelled it as "asFab" instead of asvab)

Well it's been a while since I used the term, excuse the mistake. That said, I now know you're a liar. 99 if a perfect score, it 26 years in the military I only encountered 1 person who scored a 99 and his deviations were off the charts, he had to take it again on a different version. He still scored a 99, his highest education level attained was 7th grade. How do I know these details, I was his recruiter.

So now that I've addressed my irrelevant mistake and your lie, how about you address what I said about the second amendment?

Getting a 99 isn't THAT rare. I got a 99 on the ASVAB as well. I also passed the DLAB without being fluent in any foreign languages either.

You don't need to know a foreign language to pass the DLAB, it measures a persons ability to lean a language, not what they know. And yes a 99 is exceptionally rare, I dealt with thousands of service records, knew hundreds of recruiters in all services in my 5.5 years in recruiting and was aware of 1. I'd also make a bet that you weren't in the combat engineers.

You want to make a bet on if I got a 99 on the ASVAB? If you make it worth my while I'll dig up my original contract that shows my score and that I was being accepted as a Crytpological Linguist. So make it worth my while and I'll scan and post it.

Where did I say you didn't? I said it was extremely rare. And I was right, you were no 12B.

Never said I was a Combat engineer. I said I got a 99 on the ASVAB. When I got the 99 they didn't make a big deal out of it... I was just told that is as high as you can get and it is not based on number of questions you get correct, but based on your score verses the percentages of the rest of the scores. So getting a 99 is great, but if you base it against the scores of a bunch of knuckleheads, it's not that big of a deal.

 

[initforme]

I'll take my bolt action 270 over those assault rifles any day.

 

[g5000]

I am a veteran of the United States Army. I served as a 12B (Combat Engineer) in the 37th Engineer Battalion, part of the illustrious 82nd Airborne Division

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why any civilian needs or wants to own an assault rifle.

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why anyone needs or wants midget porn. So I guess we should ban it.

Who gives a shit about the Bill of Rights, amiright?

By the way, I'm a retired vet with more than 20 years of active duty service.

 

[Lewdog]

I am a veteran of the United States Army. I served as a 12B (Combat Engineer) in the 37th Engineer Battalion, part of the illustrious 82nd Airborne Division

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why any civilian needs or wants to own an assault rifle.

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why anyone needs or wants midget porn.

Then you are watching it wrong.

 

[westwall]

I'll take my bolt action 270 over those assault rifles any day.

Yeah, I have those too. However, at 1000 meters it's a toss up between my G3 and my Steyr SSG. And I can do an immediate reaquisition and fire with the G3. Can't do that with the SSG.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The constitution says that "the people" as a whole are allowed to bear arms to form "well regulated militias"

Basically, there is a collective right for civilians to form an armed force to stand by in readiness to defend the country. The second amendment is therefore fulfilled by the existence of the U.S military

So speech is a collective right, not granted to individuals? Ditto religion?

Ignorant nonsense, of course. You seek to subvert the Constitution, end of story.

 

[koshergrl]

I am a veteran of the United States Army. I served as a 12B (Combat Engineer) in the 37th Engineer Battalion, part of the illustrious 82nd Airborne Division

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why any civilian needs or wants to own an assault rifle. During OSUT (a form of initial training where Basic and AIT are rolled into one course), we learned that our rifles were deadly weapons, designed solely for killing the enemy on a battlefield. When we trained with our weapons, we had to shoot a "qualification" test. We were presented with forty popup targets, one after another at different distances, from fifty to three hundred meters, all in very quick succession. We had to kill at least twenty three targets to pass the test, but most of us, including those of us who never fired a gun before, easily shot thirty or more targets. All this was in the span of less than two minutes, and we even had to reload once in that time. I don't get why any civilian needs to kill thirty people in two minutes, unless he is deliberately causing carnage and mass death.

The civilian AR15 is just a M-4 carbine by any other name. The only difference is that it does not have burst capacity. That is not nearly as big a difference as the NRA makes it out to be. We never, ever used burst mode in the military, since it wasted ammo, was inaccurate, and generally useless. Besides for that difference, the AR 15 is the exact same as the M4. The M4's features are designed to kill a large number of people in a short amount of time, including a detachable magazine which allows for rapid reloading and a buffer tube and muzzle brake which dampens recoil, so that a shooter can fire off a large number of rounds with minimal affect on accuracy.

All the arguments about " I need my AR 15 for hunting" or "I need my Ar15 for self defense" are entirely ridiculous. The 5.56 Nato round, which the Ar15 uses, is designed to pierce body armor. Which deer wears body armor? And your fantasies about shooting fifteen home invaders at once is just that: a fantasy which will likely never happen. The only real purpose of the AR 15 in American society is to kill large numbers of clubgoers, schoolchildren, or innocent bystanders at a time.

And for those of you who claim that "my Ar15 will protect me from tyranny," guess what, you're wrong. In my time in the military, I saw that no civilian rebellion would ever stand a chance against us. We have M1 Abrams tanks which can survive multiple rocket hits. We have drones which can bomb your house while being controlled by a person a thousand miles away. If worst came to worst, we have nuclear weapons which can quickly bring a seceding city or state into the stone age.

let's also talk about concealed carry. You are civilians. You are not deployed to a foreign country halfway around the globe. You are not fighting basically an entire for the sake of securing their oil supplies. You are not under constant threat of attack from people defending their homes from foreign invaders.

Therefore, you have no reason to carry a gun in public. Nobody needs to carry a handgun into mcDonald's or into a bank. You are not in a war zone.

And don;t give me the bs that concealed carry decreases crime. It has been proven, by STANFORD UNIVERSITY, that concealed carry actually INCREASES violent crime:

Right-to-carry gun laws linked to increase in violent crime, Stanford research shows

Trust me, I used to be an NRA member myself when i was 18. I bought into the propaganda because i was stupid, uninformed, and thought it was fun to play with guns. After joining the military, I learned to treat firearms, especially assault rifles, as tools of death and destruction, something which should be kept out of most civilian hands.

The right wing claims to respect veterans, so please listen to the words of a former soldier. I trained with assault rifles. I carried an assault rifle as part of my job. I can tell you that the military M-4 and the Ar-15 are nearly identical, and that no civilian needs a weapon designed to kill dozens of people in a matter of minutes.

Liar.

BTW, I have never heard anybody say they need an AR15 for hunting lol.
And I have never met a veteran who did not fully support the right of American civilians to pack weapons. Never.

So I know you're a lying piece of garbage who is pretending to be a soldier of honor. Despicable.

Hes a paid poster

No doubt getting minimum wage

And foodstamps.

 

[Lewdog]

I am a veteran of the United States Army. I served as a 12B (Combat Engineer) in the 37th Engineer Battalion, part of the illustrious 82nd Airborne Division

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why any civilian needs or wants to own an assault rifle.

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why anyone needs or wants midget porn. So I guess we should ban it.

Who gives a shit about the Bill of Rights, amiright?

By the way, I'm a retired vet with more than 20 years of active duty service.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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I've shot the M4 carbine and the M16 rifle, both of which are exactly the same as the AR15, with an additional burst mode which we never used once in the military, sicne the semi automatic mode was even MORE effective at killing large numbers of people in a short period of time

The M4 and the M16 are significantly different from each other.

Burst mode is used for suppression. ANYONE who has been in the service knows this.

I suspect you are lying about military service.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The right to bear arms is a Constitutional right, not an inalienable right.

The Constitution was made to be amended.

Thank you for being the voice of reason here

Yes the Constitution was made to be amended, but the right to bear arms hasn't been... well ever. The Second Amendment isn't there to say that civilians that serve in the military can have guns. It's meant as a protection so that civilians can defend themselves against a tyrannical government. ie. Like the British Empire.

When the government takes away guns, and then it creates the opportunity to take away more and more rights.

Your little AR15 isn't going to stop the U.S army, which has tactical nuclear missiles, M1 Abrams Tanks, and a fleet of drones.

And yes, I've served in the Army, so I know this very well

Tell that to the Taliban or ISIS


They played the Russians and U.S. pretty tuff .


.

 

[g5000]

The first civics lesson every goddam liberal needs to learn is that RIGHTS are not about NEED!!!

It's a goddam contradiction in terms.

 

[Dana7360]

Didn't you take an oath to defend the Constitution? Do you happen to know what it says? JW

Did you know that there's a wide variety of weapons that people can own?

You type as if those semi automatic weapons are outlawed no one will have a weapon.

Taking one type of weapon out of the hands of civilians isn't removing all weapons. So people are free to bear as many arms as they want.

Stop lying.

 

[Rustic]

I'll take my bolt action 270 over those assault rifles any day.

And that's the beauty of firearm ownership, it's a individual thing buy what you want. The only people that are going to object are the anti-gun nutters. I have a AR10 in .308 That can make cloverleafs at 300 yards with no problem at all.
.270 is a great cartridge, quite flat shooting and can get ammo most anywhere.
By the way you can get A .270 an AR platform... lol

 

[OKTexas]

Well it's been a while since I used the term, excuse the mistake. That said, I now know you're a liar. 99 if a perfect score, it 26 years in the military I only encountered 1 person who scored a 99 and his deviations were off the charts, he had to take it again on a different version. He still scored a 99, his highest education level attained was 7th grade. How do I know these details, I was his recruiter.

So now that I've addressed my irrelevant mistake and your lie, how about you address what I said about the second amendment?

Getting a 99 isn't THAT rare. I got a 99 on the ASVAB as well. I also passed the DLAB without being fluent in any foreign languages either.

You don't need to know a foreign language to pass the DLAB, it measures a persons ability to lean a language, not what they know. And yes a 99 is exceptionally rare, I dealt with thousands of service records, knew hundreds of recruiters in all services in my 5.5 years in recruiting and was aware of 1. I'd also make a bet that you weren't in the combat engineers.

You want to make a bet on if I got a 99 on the ASVAB? If you make it worth my while I'll dig up my original contract that shows my score and that I was being accepted as a Crytpological Linguist. So make it worth my while and I'll scan and post it.

Where did I say you didn't? I said it was extremely rare. And I was right, you were no 12B.

Never said I was a Combat engineer. I said I got a 99 on the ASVAB. When I got the 99 they didn't make a big deal out of it... I was just told that is as high as you can get and it is not based on number of questions you get correct, but based on your score verses the percentages of the rest of the scores. So getting a 99 is great, but if you base it against the scores of a bunch of knuckleheads, it's not that big of a deal.

Well your obvious intelligence seems to not be much of an asset, if you were paying attention the OP who also claimed a prefect score, said he was a 12B.