Zone1 A Question For Pro-Choicers

Do you support war?

War is something that I have a very difficult time reconciling in any way with my sense of right and wrong. I recognize the hard, irrational realities that lead to war, and to the need to participate therein.

In any case, there is nothing about war, or my moral ambiguities regarding it, that is relevant to abortion.

Abortion is northing more or less than the deliberate, cold-blooded killing of an innocent human being, nearly always in the absence of any circumstances that come anywhere close to those that we would otherwise accept as just cause to take any human life. It is lower on the justifiability scale, even, than the recent alleged war crimes being committed by Hamas, against defenseless civilians.
 
War is something that I have a very difficult time reconciling in any way with my sense of right and wrong. I recognize the hard, irrational realities that lead to war, and to the need to participate therein.

In any case, there is nothing about war, or my moral ambiguities regarding it, that is relevant to abortion.

Abortion is northing more or less than the deliberate, cold-blooded killing of an innocent human being, nearly always in the absence of any circumstances that come anywhere close to those that we would otherwise accept as just cause to take any human life. It is lower on the justifiability scale, even, than the recent alleged war crimes being committed by Hamas, against defenseless civilians.
A collection of cells is not a human being.

Also, why do you think it’s acceptable to force medical procedures on people by the state?
 
What medical procedures are you falsely accusing me of wanting the state to force on anyone?
Birth

Of any girl of a rapist.

Women of still born fetuses.

Girls and women experiencing pregnancy complications


And so on.

Go suffer more
 
In 1930s-1940s Germany, it was legal to round up and murder Jews and other Untermenschen.

Legality does not necessarily correlate to ethical acceptability.
They were born people.

And those people are still hated by the far right national socialists here today.

Bob
 
Birth is a natural occurrence, not a medical procedure.

You want to force a “medical procedure” on innocent children, that murders them in cold blood.
Come on Bob

If it’s natural why do people go to the hospital? Hell, just shut up bitch and give birth in the cave.
 
In 1930s-1940s Germany, it was legal to round up and murder Jews and other Untermenschen.
And those people are still hated by the far right national socialists here today.

It seems rather obvious to me that nearly all of the hatred toward Jewish people is coming from your side, from the left wrong.

They were born people.

The Germans disagreed that they were fully people. Just as you disagree that the unborn are people. They were every bit as wrong as you are.
 
Birth is a natural occurrence, not a medical procedure.

You want to force a “medical procedure” on innocent children, that murders them in cold blood.
If your sorry christian ass had to carry a fetus to term and birth it you would not just think it was natural.
 
Birth is a natural occurrence, not a medical procedure.
If it’s natural why do people go to the hospital? Hell, just shut up bitch and give birth in the cave.

Women have been giving birth since long before hospitals or physicians existed. And even now, in modern society, some women choose to give birth at home, or in settings other than a medical setting.
 

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