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I've said this for a while. Cap gains should be at whatever your regular tax rate is. Why give welfare to the rich? So no, I do not think the current tax system as set up people making $400k a year with cap gains are paying their fair share.Ok, so let's assume they are. How is it that they are not paying their fair share?
Remember, we aren't talking about people with 10s of millions in the bank living off of gains.
ya think? LOL
I've said this for a while. Cap gains should be at whatever your regular tax rate is. Why give welfare to the rich? So no, I do not think the current tax system as set up people making $400k a year with cap gains are paying their fair share.
If you're pulling in say $100k a year off passive income and paying 15% while people actually having to work for a living are paying significantly more than that, you tell me how that is fair.
Yes you are right... for a communist state.This should have been done 40 years ago.
It's now essentially too late to recover the $20 trillion shift in wealth which took place..
financesonline.com
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BSYes you are right... for a communist state.
The funny thing is people like you that want to have socialism claim to be factual, science believers, etc.
You don't believe the FACTS that a rising tide raises all vessels. Small and big.
The facts are as I've pointed out and I'll do it again and again as it seems to require multiple reminders to thick headed people.
By the late 1800s, there were about 4,000 millionaires in the USA. Historically Speaking: 19th-century Norwich had many millionaires
Millionaires in USA in 2021 --- Total 21,951,202 again that is 17% of the 128.45 million households in the US.
Number of US Households in 2024: Demographics, Statistics, & Trends - Financesonline.com
The number of US households is changing due to several factors, technology among them. We crunch the numbers to make sense of these changes.So of course we have to adjust for inflation:CPI Inflation CalculatorList of countries by number of millionaires - Wikipedia
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Inflation calculators go only back to 1913 so a $1,000,000 in 1913 would be worth $27,915,000 today.
So how many people in the USA are worth over $27,915,000?
The United States is home to 69,560 ultra high net worth (UNHW) individuals worth at least $30 million,
In summary, these 69,960 Americans given ownership of $30 million control $2,098,000,000 -- $2 trillion.Interactive Map: Ultra Wealthy Population As Percentage Of Total US State Population - Wealth-X
Uncover the Wealthiest US States The United States is home to 69,560 ultra high net worth (UNHW) individuals worth at least US$30 million, equivalent to a third of the global...
So compared to how many billionaires are there in the USA?
According to this: Updates: Billionaire Wealth, U.S. Job Losses and Pandemic Profiteers
614 Americans have 10-figure bank accounts or per the below chart total of $2,947,500,000 ... $2.9 trillion.
So tell me that the problem you described..."corporate socialism" will happen?
And this is just the millionaires who at $1,000,000 each or a total of $21.951 Trillion!
So when you compare the 614 billions at total of $2.947 Trillion to the 21,951,202 millionaires.
The growth of 4,000 millionaires to 21,951,202 millionaires today is a perfect example of the rising tide concept!
Oh one more simple fact:
As of 2019, the median US household income stands at $68,703 (U.S. Census Bureau, 2019).
As of 1900 Census Average salary was $449.80...
Now what was comparable inflation adjusted value of $449.80 in 1913 today 2021 the value is $12,407.
Hmmm... what this means is median income has increased 125 times ($56,000/$449=125 times).
Yes you are right... for a communist state.
The funny thing is people like you that want to have socialism claim to be factual, science believers, etc.
You don't believe the FACTS that a rising tide raises all vessels. Small and big.
The facts are as I've pointed out and I'll do it again and again as it seems to require multiple reminders to thick headed people.
By the late 1800s, there were about 4,000 millionaires in the USA. Historically Speaking: 19th-century Norwich had many millionaires
Millionaires in USA in 2021 --- Total 21,951,202 again that is 17% of the 128.45 million households in the US.
Number of US Households in 2024: Demographics, Statistics, & Trends - Financesonline.com
The number of US households is changing due to several factors, technology among them. We crunch the numbers to make sense of these changes.So of course we have to adjust for inflation:CPI Inflation CalculatorList of countries by number of millionaires - Wikipedia
Inflation calculators go only back to 1913 so a $1,000,000 in 1913 would be worth $27,915,000 today.
So how many people in the USA are worth over $27,915,000?
The United States is home to 69,560 ultra high net worth (UNHW) individuals worth at least $30 million,
In summary, these 69,960 Americans given ownership of $30 million control $2,098,000,000 -- $2 trillion.Interactive Map: Ultra Wealthy Population As Percentage Of Total US State Population - Wealth-X
Uncover the Wealthiest US States The United States is home to 69,560 ultra high net worth (UNHW) individuals worth at least US$30 million, equivalent to a third of the global...
So compared to how many billionaires are there in the USA?
According to this: Updates: Billionaire Wealth, U.S. Job Losses and Pandemic Profiteers
614 Americans have 10-figure bank accounts or per the below chart total of $2,947,500,000 ... $2.9 trillion.
So tell me that the problem you described..."corporate socialism" will happen?
And this is just the millionaires who at $1,000,000 each or a total of $21.951 Trillion!
So when you compare the 614 billions at total of $2.947 Trillion to the 21,951,202 millionaires.
The growth of 4,000 millionaires to 21,951,202 millionaires today is a perfect example of the rising tide concept!
Oh one more simple fact:
As of 2019, the median US household income stands at $68,703 (U.S. Census Bureau, 2019).
As of 1900 Census Average salary was $449.80...
Now what was comparable inflation adjusted value of $449.80 in 1913 today 2021 the value is $12,407.
Hmmm... what this means is median income has increased 125 times ($56,000/$449=125 times).
Biden stock market? LOL! The market is rising DESPITE Biden's policies, not because of them. The market was going to boom after COVID lockdowns regardless, but Biden is doing everything he can to limit that boom. We can't have the "rich" folks getting richer now, can we? We need to pay people;e to stay home. That is a winning strategy for sure. It will all come tumbling down in the not too distant future.
Wall Street failed in 2008 because the idiot Democrats passed that stupid CRA that used government influence to put pressure on lenders to give credit to people that had neither the inclination or means to it back. It destroyed the housing market and everything came crashing down.
But of course The Worthless Negro bailed out his Wall Street buddies that gave him a shitload of campaign donations.
Wrong.
The people getting these mortgages were paying them fine for years.
What happened is that they were adjustable rate mortgage, (ARM), based on the British LIBOR instead of the US prime lending rate.
So then when the economy crashed and US interest rates went down, the LIBOR went up, and the monthly mortgage payments suddenly nearly doubled.
It was not uncovered and corrected until 2012, but it was what caused much of the 2008 crash.
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The Libor scandal was a series of fraudulent actions connected to the Libor (London Inter-bank Offered Rate) and also the resulting investigation and reaction. Libor is an average interest rate calculated through submissions of interest rates by major banks across the world. The scandal arose when it was discovered that banks were falsely inflating or deflating their rates so as to profit from trades, or to give the impression that they were more creditworthy than they were.[3] Libor underpins approximately $350 trillion in derivatives. It is currently administered by Intercontinental Exchange, which took over running the Libor in January 2014.[4]
The banks are supposed to submit the actual interest rates they are paying, or would expect to pay, for borrowing from other banks. The Libor is supposed to be the total assessment of the health of the financial system because if the banks being polled feel confident about the state of things, they report a low number and if the member banks feel a low degree of confidence in the financial system, they report a higher interest rate number. In June 2012, multiple criminal settlements by Barclays Bank revealed significant fraud and collusion by member banks connected to the rate submissions, leading to the scandal.[5][6][7]
Because Libor is used in US derivatives markets, an attempt to manipulate Libor is an attempt to manipulate US derivatives markets, and thus a violation of American law. Since mortgages, student loans, financial derivatives, and other financial products often rely on Libor as a reference rate, the manipulation of submissions used to calculate those rates can have significant negative effects on consumers and financial markets worldwide.
On 27 July 2012, the Financial Times published an article by a former trader which stated that Libor manipulation had been common since at least 1991.[8] Further reports on this have since come from the BBC[9][10] and Reuters.[11] On 28 November 2012, the Finance Committee of the Bundestag held a hearing to learn more about the issue.[12]
The British Bankers' Association (BBA) said on 25 September 2012 that it would transfer oversight of Libor to UK regulators, as predicted by bank analysts,[13] proposed by Financial Services Authority managing director Martin Wheatley's independent review recommendations.[14] Wheatley's review recommended that banks submitting rates to Libor must base them on actual inter-bank deposit market transactions and keep records of those transactions, that individual banks' LIBOR submissions be published after three months, and recommended criminal sanctions specifically for manipulation of benchmark interest rates.[15] Financial institution customers may experience higher and more volatile borrowing and hedging costs after implementation of the recommended reforms.[16] The UK government agreed to accept all of the Wheatley Review's recommendations and press for legislation implementing them.[17]
...}
Libor scandal - Wikipedia
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yeah, the world where hard work is rewarded and best practice money sense is basically mandatory from us.In your world, sure.
Wrong.
The people getting these mortgages were paying them fine for years.
What happened is that they were adjustable rate mortgage, (ARM), based on the British LIBOR instead of the US prime lending rate.
So then when the economy crashed and US interest rates went down, the LIBOR went up, and the monthly mortgage payments suddenly nearly doubled.
It was not uncovered and corrected until 2012, but it was what caused much of the 2008 crash.
{...
The Libor scandal was a series of fraudulent actions connected to the Libor (London Inter-bank Offered Rate) and also the resulting investigation and reaction. Libor is an average interest rate calculated through submissions of interest rates by major banks across the world. The scandal arose when it was discovered that banks were falsely inflating or deflating their rates so as to profit from trades, or to give the impression that they were more creditworthy than they were.[3] Libor underpins approximately $350 trillion in derivatives. It is currently administered by Intercontinental Exchange, which took over running the Libor in January 2014.[4]
The banks are supposed to submit the actual interest rates they are paying, or would expect to pay, for borrowing from other banks. The Libor is supposed to be the total assessment of the health of the financial system because if the banks being polled feel confident about the state of things, they report a low number and if the member banks feel a low degree of confidence in the financial system, they report a higher interest rate number. In June 2012, multiple criminal settlements by Barclays Bank revealed significant fraud and collusion by member banks connected to the rate submissions, leading to the scandal.[5][6][7]
Because Libor is used in US derivatives markets, an attempt to manipulate Libor is an attempt to manipulate US derivatives markets, and thus a violation of American law. Since mortgages, student loans, financial derivatives, and other financial products often rely on Libor as a reference rate, the manipulation of submissions used to calculate those rates can have significant negative effects on consumers and financial markets worldwide.
On 27 July 2012, the Financial Times published an article by a former trader which stated that Libor manipulation had been common since at least 1991.[8] Further reports on this have since come from the BBC[9][10] and Reuters.[11] On 28 November 2012, the Finance Committee of the Bundestag held a hearing to learn more about the issue.[12]
The British Bankers' Association (BBA) said on 25 September 2012 that it would transfer oversight of Libor to UK regulators, as predicted by bank analysts,[13] proposed by Financial Services Authority managing director Martin Wheatley's independent review recommendations.[14] Wheatley's review recommended that banks submitting rates to Libor must base them on actual inter-bank deposit market transactions and keep records of those transactions, that individual banks' LIBOR submissions be published after three months, and recommended criminal sanctions specifically for manipulation of benchmark interest rates.[15] Financial institution customers may experience higher and more volatile borrowing and hedging costs after implementation of the recommended reforms.[16] The UK government agreed to accept all of the Wheatley Review's recommendations and press for legislation implementing them.[17]
...}
Libor scandal - Wikipedia
What about the guy that is making $400k per year from his job/business and paying income tax. Is he paying his fair share? IMO, he is paying more than his fair share.
You stupid uneducated Moon Bats don't even understand that the economy went to hell in 2007 because Congress changed to Democrat control. For six year the economy was doing fine with Republican controlled Congress and the Presidency. Then the CRA caused housing bust happened and those corrupt Democrat shitheads in Congress, (who suppose to have oversight) led by assholes like Barney Queerboy, did absolutely nothing. That is the kind of incompetency we always see with Democrats, isn't it?
With shitheads like Barney Queerboy, Nancy "the Witch" Pelosi, Harry "Dipshit" Reid and the Worthless Negro from Illinois in Congress what could possibly go wrong?
CRA did nothing except fight illegal redlining.
Those buyers could have kept paying the old mortgage payments, just could not pay the increases from the change in adjustable rates.
They had to pay rent after foreclosure, that was higher than their mortgage was and should have remained.
I am speaking of people who live off of their investments as this thread is about capital gains taxesNo they won't. If they have the ability to make well above 1 million they will continue to.
I am speaking of people who live off of their investments as this thread is about capital gains taxes
Democrats never take responsibility for the damage they do. They always make silly excuses or try to blame somebody else.
The Community Reinvestment Act was a terrible failed Liberal policy that came close to wrecking the economy with unintended consequences the stupid Libtards never imagined. What could possible go wrong with using the pressure of government to forced lenders to give credit to people that otherwise would have been ineligible? Duh!
Put the fact that the CRA chickens came home to roost at a time when the filthy Democrats gained controlled of all the banking oversight committees and we have a recipe for disaster.
Of course not to worry. The Worthless Negro used our children's money to bail out the banks. The same Wall Street companies that funded his campaign.
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It's a lot more than a few.If you have a need for more than $1 million you will still seek to acquire that. People are not going to change their lifestyle because of a few percentage more in taxes.
It's a lot more than a few.
23% to 43%.
