A wall on the border would kill the environment.

[HappyJoy]

Back? It will still be there if the wall is built.

Only on the Mexican side.

The trash on the U.S. side will be cleaned up... ..,

Since our culture is at stake, when do we kick all the Muslims out? With the Mexicans?

Never. Most Muslims in America don’t have ducked up third world country diseases, don’t suck up all the welfare, have a trade beyond digging a whole, make their neighborhoods cleaner and safer and generally assimilate into society. Wet backs dont. They are a burden that Mexico should have to deal with.

OK, so you don't mind when Muslims go to mosque and speak their own language, that's cool.

Why would someone want to assimilate with you? I live in a city with a huge Hispanic population and I've never felt like a stranger in their neighborhoods, we often go there for authentic Mexican food. Maybe you should give it a try, BFE Texas.

Your political correctness makes you look foolish

I think it's foolish to set policy based on racial hatred.

 

[Rustic]

Sure it has. We have enjoyed the wall of the Atlantic Ocean to keep European squabbles from bothering us.

Iron Eyes Cody - Wikipedia

You know nothing about the Indian nations and our history... lol
Political correctness just makes you look like you’re stupid fucker

Look up, somethin' just went over your head.

Actually it went over your head, the best thing that ever happened to the indian nations is the fleeing of freedom loving Europeans over here. We still would be playing around with sticks and dirt and worshiping dirt if it was up to our ancestors.

Yeah, let's ignore the decimation of Native American lives, it's just a little thing.

Statistics show a large decline in Native American population throughout the nineteenth century. There was an estimated 88-90 percent decline in Native American population from the time the Europeans landed in 1492 (Ubelaker, 1988) to the lowest recorded value of 228,000 in 1890 (Thornton, 1987). Over the course of the nineteenth century the United States signed over 375 treaties with Native American tribes and increased their territory over 500%. Westward expansion of the United States had a direct impact on the population of the Natives throughout this time. Other factors besides westward expansion affected Native populations, including disease, emigration, and warfare. This project will analyze the link between those factors and territorial expansion of the United States. Upon looking at the statistical information it is easy to conclude that regardless of what the method of eradication, the Native American Indians were headed towards extinction by the end of the 1900’s. Some aboriginal tribes from Texas have no remaining ancestry (1987).

Native American Population Study

It was the United States federal government with their political correctness/affirmative-action that has destroyed the Indian nations, not a freedom loving people fleeing socialist Europe.
Socialism destroys everything it touches… See Pineridge… this is the result of political/correctness/affirmative-action/socialism. LOL
STATISTICAL DATA

Despite nearly-insurmountable conditions, few resources, and against unbelievable odds, Indigenous people are struggling hard to overcome decades of neglect, discrimination and forced destruction of their traditional cultures to promote a life of self-respect and self-sufficiency.

BRIEF STATISTICS

* 97% of of the population at Pine Ridge Reservation live below federal poverty line.

* The unemployment rate vacillates from 85% to 95% on the Reservation.

* Death due to Heart Disease: Twice the national average.

* The infant mortality rate is the highest on this continent and is about 300% higher than the U.S. national average.

* Elderly die each winter from hypothermia (freezing).

* Recent reports point out that the median income on the Pine Ridge Reservation is approximately $2,600 to $3,500 per year.

* At least 60% of the homes are severely substandard, without water, electricity, adequate insulation, and sewage systems.

* Recent reports state the average life expectancy is 45 years old while others state that it is 48 years old for men and 52 years old for women. With either set of figures, that's the shortest life expectancy for any community in the Western Hemisphere outside Haiti, according to The Wall Street Journal.

INTRODUCTORY

Hidden away, dotted throughout the landscape of America, are the Reservations of the Indigenous People of our land. Mostly unknown or forgotten by the mainstream culture of the dominant U.S. society, the average United States resident knows little or nothing about these people other than what romanticized versions they see in movies and television or else in their nearest Reservation casino. Most assume that whatever poverty exists on a reservation is most certainly comparable to that which they might experience themselves.

And definitely, mainstream Americans are accustomed to being exposed to poverty. It has become nearly invisible due to its overwhelming presence everywhere. We drive through our cities now with a blind eye, numb to the suffering around us. Even more, we watch the televised reports of Third World countries, shake our heads and turn away, rightfully assuming that our government and our charities will help those in need all over the globe.

But the question begs: What about the foreign nations on America's own soil, within this country, a part and yet apart from mainstream society? What about the Native American Nations on America's reservations? Few mainstream Americans know anything about the people that live on these reservations and fewer still know or comprehend the unconscionable conditions present on many of them.

What many do not know is that a staggering number of residents on Native American reservations live in abject conditions rivaling, or even surpassing, that of many Third World countries.

This report chronicles just one Nation, the Oglala Lakota (Sioux) Nation of the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota. Yet the name and only a few details could easily be changed to describe a host of others; Dineh (Navajo), Ute Mountain Ute, Tohono O'odham, Pima, Yaqui, Ojibwa, Chippewa, the list is long.

But despite nearly-insurmountable conditions, few resources, and against unbelievable odds, Nation after Nation of Indigenous leaders and their people are working hard to counteract decades of oppression and forced destruction of their cultures to bring their citizens back to a life of self-respect and self-sufficiency in today's world.



Below are further in depth statistics of Pine Ridge

IN DEPTH STATISTICS

* The Pine Ridge Oglala Lakota (Sioux) Indian Reservation sits in Bennett, Jackson, and Shannon Counties and is located in the southwest corner of South Dakota, fifty miles east of the Wyoming border.

* The 11,000-square mile (over 2 million acres) Oglala Lakota Pine Ridge Reservation is the second-largest Native American Reservation within the United States. It is roughly the size of the State of Connecticut.

* The Reservation is divided into eight districts: Eagle Nest, Pass Creek, Wakpamni, LaCreek, Pine Ridge, White Clay, Medicine Root, Porcupine, and Wounded Knee.

* The topography of the Pine Ridge Reservation includes badlands, rolling grassland hills, dryland prairie, and areas dotted with pine trees.

* According to the 1998 Bureau of Indian Affairs Census, the Pine Ridge Reservation is home to approximately 40,000 persons, 35% of which are under the age of 16. Approximately half the residents of the Reservation are registered tribal members of the Oglala Lakota Nation.

* The population is steadily rising, despite the severe conditions on the Reservation, as more and more Oglala Lakota return home from far-away cities in order to live within their societal values, be with their families, and assist with the revitalization of their culture and their Nation.

* Recent reports point out that the median income on the Pine Ridge Reservation is approximately $2,600 per year.

* The unemployment rate vacillates from 85% to 95% on the Reservation.

* There is no industry, technology, or commercial infrastructure on the Reservation to provide employment.

* The nearest town of size (which provides some jobs for those few persons able to travel the distance) is Rapid City, South Dakota with approximately 57,000 residents. It is located approximately 120 miles from the Reservation. The nearest large city to Pine Ridge is Denver, Colorado located about 350 miles away.

* Some figures state that the life expectancy on the Reservation is 48 years old for men and 52 for women. Other reports state that the average life expectancy on the Reservation is 45 years old. With either set of figures, that's the shortest life expectancy for a community anywhere in the Western Hemisphere outside Haiti, according to The Wall Street Journal.

* Teenage suicide rate on the Pine Ridge Reservation is 150% higher than the U.S. national average for this age group.

* The infant mortality rate is the highest on this continent and is about 300% higher than the U.S. national average.

* More than half the Reservation's adults battle addiction and disease. Alcoholism, diabetes, heart disease, cancer, and malnutrition are rampant.


* The rate of diabetes on the Reservation is reported to be 800% higher than the U.S. national average.

* Recent reports indicate that almost 50% of the adults on the Reservation over the age of 40 have diabetes. Over 37% of population is diabetic.

* As a result of the high rate of diabetes on the Reservation, diabetic-related blindness, amputations, and kidney failure are common.

* The tuberculosis rate on the Pine Ridge Reservation is approximately 800% higher than the U.S. national average.

* Cervical cancer is 500% higher than the U.S. national average.

* Each winter, Reservation Elders are found dead from hypothermia (freezing).

* It is reported that at least 60% of the homes on the Pine Ridge Reservation are infested with Black Mold, Stachybotrys. This infestation causes an often-fatal condition with infants, children, elderly, those with damaged immune systems, and those with lung and pulmonary conditions at the highest risk. Exposure to this mold can cause hemorrhaging of the lungs and brain as well as cancer.

* Many Reservation residents live without health care due to vast travel distances involved in accessing that care. Additional factors include under-funded, under-staffed medical facilities and outdated or non-existent medical equipment. There is little hope for increased funding for Indian health care.

* Preventive healthcare programs are rare.

* In most of the treaties between the U.S. Government and Indian Nations, the U.S. government agreed to provide adequate medical care for Indians in return for vast quantities of land. The Indian Health Services (IHS) was set up to administer the health care for Indians under these treaties and receives an appropriation each year to fund Indian health care. Unfortunately, the appropriation is very small compared to the need. The IHS is understaffed and ill-equipped and can't possibly address the needs of Indian communities. Nowhere is this more apparent than on the Pine Ridge Reservation.

* School drop-out rate is over 70%.

* According to a Bureau of Indian Affairs report, the Pine Ridge Reservation schools are in the bottom 10% of school funding by U.S. Department of Education and the Bureau of Indian Affairs.

* Teacher turnover is 800% that of the U.S. national average

* The small Tribal Housing Authority homes on the Pine Ridge Reservation are so overcrowded and scarce that many homeless families often use tents or cars for shelter. Many families live in shacks, old trailers, or dilapidated mobile homes.

* There is a large homeless population on the Reservation, but most families never turn away a relative no matter how distant the blood relation. Consequently, many homes have large numbers of people living in them.

* There is an estimated average of 17 people living in each family home (a home which may only have two to three rooms). Some homes, built for 6 to 8 people, have up to 30 people living in them.

* 60% of Reservation families have no telephone.

* Over 33% of the Reservation homes lack basic water and sewage systems as well as electricity.

* Many residents must carry (often contaminated) water from the local rivers daily for their personal needs.

* 39% of the homes on the Pine Ridge Reservation have no electricity.

* 59% of the Reservation homes are substandard.

* It is reported that at least 60% of the homes on the Pine Ridge Reservation need to be burned to the ground and replaced with new housing due to infestation of the potentially-fatal Black Mold, Stachybotrys. There is no insurance or government program to assist families in replacing their homes.

* Some Reservation families are forced to sleep on dirt floors.

* Many Reservation homes lack adequate insulation. Even more homes lack central heating.

* Without basic insulation or central heating in their homes, many residents on the Pine Ridge Reservation use their ovens to heat their homes.

* Many Reservation homes lack stoves, refrigerators, beds, and/or basic furniture.

* Most Reservation families live in rural and often isolated areas.

* The largest town on the Reservation is the town of Pine Ridge which has a population of approximately 5,720 people and is the administrative center for the Reservation.

* There are few improved roads on the Reservation and many of the homes are inaccessible during times of heavy snow or rain.

* Weather is extreme on the Reservation. Severe winds are always a factor. Traditionally, summer temperatures reach well over 110*F and winters bring bitter cold with temperatures that can reach -50*F below zero or worse. Flooding, tornados, or wildfires are always a risk.

* Many of the wells and much of the water and land on the Reservation is contaminated with pesticides and other poisons from farming, mining, open dumps, and commercial and governmental mining operations outside the Reservation. A further source of contamination is buried ordnance and hazardous materials from closed U.S. military bombing ranges on the Reservation.

* The Pine Ridge Reservation still has no banks, motels, discount stores, or movie theaters. It has only one grocery store of any moderate size and it is located in the town of Pine Ridge on the Reservation.

* Several of the banks and lending institutions nearest to the Reservation were recently targeted for investigation of fraudulent or predatory lending practices, with the citizens of the Pine Ridge Reservation as their victims.

* There are no public libraries except one at the Oglala Lakota College of the reservation.

* There is no public transportation available on the Reservation.

* Ownership of operable automobiles by residents of the Reservation is highly limited.

* Predominate form of travel for all ages on the Reservation is walking or hitchhiking.

* There is one very small airport on the Reservation servicing both the Pine Ridge Reservation and Shannon County. It's longest, paved runway extends 4,969 feet. There are no commercial flights available.

* There is one radio station on the Pine Ridge Reservation. KILI 90.1FM is located near the town of Porcupine on the Reservation.

* Alcoholism affects eight out of ten families on the Reservation.

* The death rate from alcohol-related problems on the Reservation is 300% higher than the remaining US population.

* The Oglala Lakota Nation has prohibited the sale and possession of alcohol on the Pine Ridge Reservation since the early 1970's. However, the town of Whiteclay, Nebraska (which sits 400 yards off the Reservation border in a contested "buffer" zone) has approximately 14 residents and four liquor stores which sell over 4.1 million cans of beer each year resulting in a $3million annual trade. Unlike other Nebraska communities, Whiteclay exists only to sell liquor and make money. It has no schools, no churches, no civic organizations, no parks, no benches, no public bathrooms, no fire service and no law enforcement. Tribal officials have repeatedly pleaded with the State of Nebraska to close these liquor stores or enforce the State laws regulating liquor stores but have been consistently refused...

 

[HappyJoy]

Our culture never had anything to do with walls

Our culture does have everything to do with law and order. That’s all the wall represents.

The wall represents cowardice. This is our symbol:

Not this:

The Statue of Liberty is a fucking joke, considering who gave it to us. LOL

^real 'merican (idiot)

Sorry I hurt your feelings

No hurting my feelings, feel free to shit on the most recognized American landmark all you want.

 

[Rustic]

Only on the Mexican side.

The trash on the U.S. side will be cleaned up... ..,

Since our culture is at stake, when do we kick all the Muslims out? With the Mexicans?

Never. Most Muslims in America don’t have ducked up third world country diseases, don’t suck up all the welfare, have a trade beyond digging a whole, make their neighborhoods cleaner and safer and generally assimilate into society. Wet backs dont. They are a burden that Mexico should have to deal with.

OK, so you don't mind when Muslims go to mosque and speak their own language, that's cool.

Why would someone want to assimilate with you? I live in a city with a huge Hispanic population and I've never felt like a stranger in their neighborhoods, we often go there for authentic Mexican food. Maybe you should give it a try, BFE Texas.

Your political correctness makes you look foolish

I think it's foolish to set policy based on racial hatred.

Says the control freak

 

[HappyJoy]

The wall represents cowardice.

Funny, I saw the wall as representing freedom and liberty. Freedom and Liberty for people who live along the border not to have to worry about criminals, thugs, and desperate people trying to smuggle drugs and people through their property at night leaving all kinds of trash behind them for you to deal with, freedom and liberty to be able to go to bed at night with your window open and not worry about some Mexican breaking into your house to rob and rape you. The freedom and liberty to live in an open and honest society where people around you are documented American citizens and not some greasy wetback who doesn't even speak English trying to run some scam on you while looking out for the Police. The freedom and liberty to know that money you pay in taxes is going more for things which make the country better rather than just trying to keep it from getting worse.

Even when those living close to the border don't want the wall?

Proximity to the border does not matter when it comes to views about U.S. President Donald Trump’s proposed border wall. Only about one-third (32%) of Americans near the border and 35% of those living further away from the border approve of the proposed wall. Mexicans are overwhelmingly united in opposition: Only 3% of Mexicans within 200 miles from the border and 5% of Mexicans further from the border approve of Trump’s plan.

How Americans, Mexicans see each other differs for those closer to border

It really can’t hurt to build the wall, it’s not like Mexico is a credible country. LOL

If you ignore the cost. And yes, Mexico is a legit country, what an idiot.

As Spoken by the pea-brain who ignores the cost of all that illegal aliens actually cost us. The wall isn't an "expense," it represents a huge savings. Funny how when Obama spent enough money in 2009 to build the wall THIRTY TIMES OVER, they touted it as a great economic moment.

I'm more intersted in the overall picture of immigration. 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants are a huge economic plus for our country, and let's face it we are aging and we need younger people to emigrate to the U.S.

 

[HappyJoy]

Since our culture is at stake, when do we kick all the Muslims out? With the Mexicans?

Never. Most Muslims in America don’t have ducked up third world country diseases, don’t suck up all the welfare, have a trade beyond digging a whole, make their neighborhoods cleaner and safer and generally assimilate into society. Wet backs dont. They are a burden that Mexico should have to deal with.

OK, so you don't mind when Muslims go to mosque and speak their own language, that's cool.

Why would someone want to assimilate with you? I live in a city with a huge Hispanic population and I've never felt like a stranger in their neighborhoods, we often go there for authentic Mexican food. Maybe you should give it a try, BFE Texas.

Your political correctness makes you look foolish

I think it's foolish to set policy based on racial hatred.

Says the control freak

I bet you think everyone in the country should speak English.

 

[Rustic]

Our culture does have everything to do with law and order. That’s all the wall represents.

The wall represents cowardice. This is our symbol:

Not this:

The Statue of Liberty is a fucking joke, considering who gave it to us. LOL

^real 'merican (idiot)

Sorry I hurt your feelings

No hurting my feelings, feel free to shit on the most recognized American landmark all you want.

I don’t only thing worse than nationalism is globalism, so fuck your Statue of Liberty it represents socialism Europe... lol

 

[toobfreak]

Our culture does have everything to do with law and order. That’s all the wall represents.

The wall represents cowardice.

Funny, I saw the wall as representing freedom and liberty. Freedom and Liberty for people who live along the border not to have to worry about criminals, thugs, and desperate people trying to smuggle drugs and people through their property at night leaving all kinds of trash behind them for you to deal with, freedom and liberty to be able to go to bed at night with your window open and not worry about some Mexican breaking into your house to rob and rape you. The freedom and liberty to live in an open and honest society where people around you are documented American citizens and not some greasy wetback who doesn't even speak English trying to run some scam on you while looking out for the Police. The freedom and liberty to know that money you pay in taxes is going more for things which make the country better rather than just trying to keep it from getting worse.

Even when those living close to the border don't want the wall?

Proximity to the border does not matter when it comes to views about U.S. President Donald Trump’s proposed border wall. Only about one-third (32%) of Americans near the border and 35% of those living further away from the border approve of the proposed wall. Mexicans are overwhelmingly united in opposition: Only 3% of Mexicans within 200 miles from the border and 5% of Mexicans further from the border approve of Trump’s plan.

How Americans, Mexicans see each other differs for those closer to border

By your logic, we shouldn't build prisons either because 98% of the people in them don't want to be there and 88% of the people in the area don't want one in their backyard.

BESIDES, how did we let you get away with making this "Trump's Wall?" THE WALL IS ALREADY THERE! There has been a barrier there for a LONG TIME. It has been promised and supported by most every president and politician on both sides of the aisle! All Trump is trying to do is FINISH the wall and make it complete and effective.

You just proclaimed that the wall represents freedom because of what it would mean to the people who actually live on the border, I showed you they don't want it.

And, fyi, most/many prisons aren't in 'peoples' backyards'.

The wall is not there, some fencing is and apparently Trump is ripping down his own wall as many of his surrogates are saying that much of the wall will only be a fence. Funny, just a little while ago as Mexico was proclaiming they weren't going to pay for it Trump said the wall was only going to get higher. What a lie that was, amiright?

Look pea-brain, why don't you know when you've lost the argument and admit defeat gracefully. You have shown NOTHING but some website with a pro-Mexican agenda. I know for a fact that the Americans down there WANT THE WALL. But then, what is the point trying to carry on a conversation with an idiot like you who stands there claiming the wall is not there even as 100,000 pictures have been shown of the Border Patrol patrolling it and Mexicans trying to climb over it or get through the places it is broken down. Not to mention every president going back as far as I can remember being for it and promising to address the issue. The wall is going up, period. Had Mexicans respected the original wall in the first place, they wouldn't have to face the prospect of this new one being twice as high and 10X as impenetrable. If you don't like it, if Mexicans don't like it, they only have themselves to blame and you can all go suck a donkey's ass.

 

[2aguy]

Funny, I saw the wall as representing freedom and liberty. Freedom and Liberty for people who live along the border not to have to worry about criminals, thugs, and desperate people trying to smuggle drugs and people through their property at night leaving all kinds of trash behind them for you to deal with, freedom and liberty to be able to go to bed at night with your window open and not worry about some Mexican breaking into your house to rob and rape you. The freedom and liberty to live in an open and honest society where people around you are documented American citizens and not some greasy wetback who doesn't even speak English trying to run some scam on you while looking out for the Police. The freedom and liberty to know that money you pay in taxes is going more for things which make the country better rather than just trying to keep it from getting worse.

Even when those living close to the border don't want the wall?

Proximity to the border does not matter when it comes to views about U.S. President Donald Trump’s proposed border wall. Only about one-third (32%) of Americans near the border and 35% of those living further away from the border approve of the proposed wall. Mexicans are overwhelmingly united in opposition: Only 3% of Mexicans within 200 miles from the border and 5% of Mexicans further from the border approve of Trump’s plan.

How Americans, Mexicans see each other differs for those closer to border

It really can’t hurt to build the wall, it’s not like Mexico is a credible country. LOL

If you ignore the cost. And yes, Mexico is a legit country, what an idiot.

As Spoken by the pea-brain who ignores the cost of all that illegal aliens actually cost us. The wall isn't an "expense," it represents a huge savings. Funny how when Obama spent enough money in 2009 to build the wall THIRTY TIMES OVER, they touted it as a great economic moment.

I'm more intersted in the overall picture of immigration. 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants are a huge economic plus for our country, and let's face it we are aging and we need younger people to emigrate to the U.S.

No one is against legal immigration.....illegal immigration, supported by the democrats because they want a serf class to vote them power....that is what we have a problem with...

 

[Rustic]

Funny, I saw the wall as representing freedom and liberty. Freedom and Liberty for people who live along the border not to have to worry about criminals, thugs, and desperate people trying to smuggle drugs and people through their property at night leaving all kinds of trash behind them for you to deal with, freedom and liberty to be able to go to bed at night with your window open and not worry about some Mexican breaking into your house to rob and rape you. The freedom and liberty to live in an open and honest society where people around you are documented American citizens and not some greasy wetback who doesn't even speak English trying to run some scam on you while looking out for the Police. The freedom and liberty to know that money you pay in taxes is going more for things which make the country better rather than just trying to keep it from getting worse.

Even when those living close to the border don't want the wall?

Proximity to the border does not matter when it comes to views about U.S. President Donald Trump’s proposed border wall. Only about one-third (32%) of Americans near the border and 35% of those living further away from the border approve of the proposed wall. Mexicans are overwhelmingly united in opposition: Only 3% of Mexicans within 200 miles from the border and 5% of Mexicans further from the border approve of Trump’s plan.

How Americans, Mexicans see each other differs for those closer to border

It really can’t hurt to build the wall, it’s not like Mexico is a credible country. LOL

If you ignore the cost. And yes, Mexico is a legit country, what an idiot.

As Spoken by the pea-brain who ignores the cost of all that illegal aliens actually cost us. The wall isn't an "expense," it represents a huge savings. Funny how when Obama spent enough money in 2009 to build the wall THIRTY TIMES OVER, they touted it as a great economic moment.

I'm more intersted in the overall picture of immigration. 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants are a huge economic plus for our country, and let's face it we are aging and we need younger people to emigrate to the U.S.

Lol,
Europe is aging far quicker and Japan quicker yet.

Only legal immigration is financially viable… Illegal is illegal and costs for too much.
Your political correctness is making you look foolish again

 

[HappyJoy]

The wall represents cowardice. This is our symbol:

Not this:

The Statue of Liberty is a fucking joke, considering who gave it to us. LOL

^real 'merican (idiot)

Sorry I hurt your feelings

No hurting my feelings, feel free to shit on the most recognized American landmark all you want.

I don’t only thing worse than nationalism is globalism, so fuck your Statue of Liberty it represents socialism Europe... lol

It represents socialism? That's a new one.

 

[2aguy]

Never. Most Muslims in America don’t have ducked up third world country diseases, don’t suck up all the welfare, have a trade beyond digging a whole, make their neighborhoods cleaner and safer and generally assimilate into society. Wet backs dont. They are a burden that Mexico should have to deal with.

OK, so you don't mind when Muslims go to mosque and speak their own language, that's cool.

Why would someone want to assimilate with you? I live in a city with a huge Hispanic population and I've never felt like a stranger in their neighborhoods, we often go there for authentic Mexican food. Maybe you should give it a try, BFE Texas.

Your political correctness makes you look foolish

I think it's foolish to set policy based on racial hatred.

Says the control freak

I bet you think everyone in the country should speak English.

I do......the worst problems within a country begin with the inability to speak a common language.....

 

[Rustic]

Never. Most Muslims in America don’t have ducked up third world country diseases, don’t suck up all the welfare, have a trade beyond digging a whole, make their neighborhoods cleaner and safer and generally assimilate into society. Wet backs dont. They are a burden that Mexico should have to deal with.

OK, so you don't mind when Muslims go to mosque and speak their own language, that's cool.

Why would someone want to assimilate with you? I live in a city with a huge Hispanic population and I've never felt like a stranger in their neighborhoods, we often go there for authentic Mexican food. Maybe you should give it a try, BFE Texas.

Your political correctness makes you look foolish

I think it's foolish to set policy based on racial hatred.

Says the control freak

I bet you think everyone in the country should speak English.

Actually I really don’t care about that issue that much, but everyone speaking to me should speak English.
Because if they don’t I have no idea what the hell they are talking about. The federal government took my Ancestral language away when I was a kid. I had no choice...

 

[Rustic]

The Statue of Liberty is a fucking joke, considering who gave it to us. LOL

^real 'merican (idiot)

Sorry I hurt your feelings

No hurting my feelings, feel free to shit on the most recognized American landmark all you want.

I don’t only thing worse than nationalism is globalism, so fuck your Statue of Liberty it represents socialism Europe... lol

It represents socialism? That's a new one.

Europe is socialist and it came from Europe…

 

[HappyJoy]

The wall represents cowardice.

Funny, I saw the wall as representing freedom and liberty. Freedom and Liberty for people who live along the border not to have to worry about criminals, thugs, and desperate people trying to smuggle drugs and people through their property at night leaving all kinds of trash behind them for you to deal with, freedom and liberty to be able to go to bed at night with your window open and not worry about some Mexican breaking into your house to rob and rape you. The freedom and liberty to live in an open and honest society where people around you are documented American citizens and not some greasy wetback who doesn't even speak English trying to run some scam on you while looking out for the Police. The freedom and liberty to know that money you pay in taxes is going more for things which make the country better rather than just trying to keep it from getting worse.

Even when those living close to the border don't want the wall?

Proximity to the border does not matter when it comes to views about U.S. President Donald Trump’s proposed border wall. Only about one-third (32%) of Americans near the border and 35% of those living further away from the border approve of the proposed wall. Mexicans are overwhelmingly united in opposition: Only 3% of Mexicans within 200 miles from the border and 5% of Mexicans further from the border approve of Trump’s plan.

How Americans, Mexicans see each other differs for those closer to border

By your logic, we shouldn't build prisons either because 98% of the people in them don't want to be there and 88% of the people in the area don't want one in their backyard.

BESIDES, how did we let you get away with making this "Trump's Wall?" THE WALL IS ALREADY THERE! There has been a barrier there for a LONG TIME. It has been promised and supported by most every president and politician on both sides of the aisle! All Trump is trying to do is FINISH the wall and make it complete and effective.

You just proclaimed that the wall represents freedom because of what it would mean to the people who actually live on the border, I showed you they don't want it.

And, fyi, most/many prisons aren't in 'peoples' backyards'.

The wall is not there, some fencing is and apparently Trump is ripping down his own wall as many of his surrogates are saying that much of the wall will only be a fence. Funny, just a little while ago as Mexico was proclaiming they weren't going to pay for it Trump said the wall was only going to get higher. What a lie that was, amiright?

Look pea-brain, why don't you know when you've lost the argument and admit defeat gracefully. You have shown NOTHING but some website with a pro-Mexican agenda. I know for a fact that the Americans down there WANT THE WALL. But then, what is the point trying to carry on a conversation with an idiot like you who stands there claiming the wall is not there even as 100,000 pictures have been shown of the Border Patrol patrolling it and Mexicans trying to climb over it or get through the places it is broken down. Not to mention every president going back as far as I can remember being for it and promising to address the issue. The wall is going up, period. Had Mexicans respected the original wall in the first place, they wouldn't have to face the prospect of this new one being twice as high and 10X as impenetrable. If you don't like it, if Mexicans don't like it, they only have themselves to blame and you can all go suck a donkey's ass.

No, like most Americans they don't wan the wall, you can proclaim to have that info first hand and I'd assume it's anecdotal at best.

The current 'border wall' is mostly fence, sorry.

The rest of your post is just blathering anger.

 

[HappyJoy]

Even when those living close to the border don't want the wall?

Proximity to the border does not matter when it comes to views about U.S. President Donald Trump’s proposed border wall. Only about one-third (32%) of Americans near the border and 35% of those living further away from the border approve of the proposed wall. Mexicans are overwhelmingly united in opposition: Only 3% of Mexicans within 200 miles from the border and 5% of Mexicans further from the border approve of Trump’s plan.

How Americans, Mexicans see each other differs for those closer to border

It really can’t hurt to build the wall, it’s not like Mexico is a credible country. LOL

If you ignore the cost. And yes, Mexico is a legit country, what an idiot.

As Spoken by the pea-brain who ignores the cost of all that illegal aliens actually cost us. The wall isn't an "expense," it represents a huge savings. Funny how when Obama spent enough money in 2009 to build the wall THIRTY TIMES OVER, they touted it as a great economic moment.

I'm more intersted in the overall picture of immigration. 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants are a huge economic plus for our country, and let's face it we are aging and we need younger people to emigrate to the U.S.

No one is against legal immigration.....illegal immigration, supported by the democrats because they want a serf class to vote them power....that is what we have a problem with...

Actually there are quite a few here who don't want 'wet backs' to immigrate here, who are you trying to fool? Start with BrokeLoser and move down the list.

 

[Rustic]

OK, so you don't mind when Muslims go to mosque and speak their own language, that's cool.

Why would someone want to assimilate with you? I live in a city with a huge Hispanic population and I've never felt like a stranger in their neighborhoods, we often go there for authentic Mexican food. Maybe you should give it a try, BFE Texas.

Your political correctness makes you look foolish

I think it's foolish to set policy based on racial hatred.

Says the control freak

I bet you think everyone in the country should speak English.

I do......the worst problems within a country begin with the inability to speak a common language.....

That is true, but I don’t see where that is possible… a common tongue.
What I really hate is when these places call you with people that have really strong accents from foreign countries. I just hang up because I can’t understand them... lol

 

[2aguy]

It really can’t hurt to build the wall, it’s not like Mexico is a credible country. LOL

If you ignore the cost. And yes, Mexico is a legit country, what an idiot.

As Spoken by the pea-brain who ignores the cost of all that illegal aliens actually cost us. The wall isn't an "expense," it represents a huge savings. Funny how when Obama spent enough money in 2009 to build the wall THIRTY TIMES OVER, they touted it as a great economic moment.

I'm more intersted in the overall picture of immigration. 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants are a huge economic plus for our country, and let's face it we are aging and we need younger people to emigrate to the U.S.

No one is against legal immigration.....illegal immigration, supported by the democrats because they want a serf class to vote them power....that is what we have a problem with...

Actually there are quite a few here who don't want 'wet backs' to immigrate here, who are you trying to fool? Start with BrokeLoser and move down the list.

Yes...a few posters on this site.......I am talking the real world....

 

[2aguy]

Your political correctness makes you look foolish

I think it's foolish to set policy based on racial hatred.

Says the control freak

I bet you think everyone in the country should speak English.

I do......the worst problems within a country begin with the inability to speak a common language.....

That is true, but I don’t see where that is possible… a common tongue.
What I really hate is when these places call you with people that have really strong accents from foreign countries. I just hang up because I can’t understand them... lol

It would take a movement....all government documents and voting should be in English.....that would be the bare minimum...

 

[HappyJoy]

Even when those living close to the border don't want the wall?

Proximity to the border does not matter when it comes to views about U.S. President Donald Trump’s proposed border wall. Only about one-third (32%) of Americans near the border and 35% of those living further away from the border approve of the proposed wall. Mexicans are overwhelmingly united in opposition: Only 3% of Mexicans within 200 miles from the border and 5% of Mexicans further from the border approve of Trump’s plan.

How Americans, Mexicans see each other differs for those closer to border

It really can’t hurt to build the wall, it’s not like Mexico is a credible country. LOL

If you ignore the cost. And yes, Mexico is a legit country, what an idiot.

As Spoken by the pea-brain who ignores the cost of all that illegal aliens actually cost us. The wall isn't an "expense," it represents a huge savings. Funny how when Obama spent enough money in 2009 to build the wall THIRTY TIMES OVER, they touted it as a great economic moment.

I'm more intersted in the overall picture of immigration. 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants are a huge economic plus for our country, and let's face it we are aging and we need younger people to emigrate to the U.S.

Lol,
Europe is aging far quicker and Japan quicker yet.

Only legal immigration is financially viable… Illegal is illegal and costs for too much.
Your political correctness is making you look foolish again

Yep, but we're talking about the U.S., we have an aging population and were not popping out enough kids to keep the economy moving. Therefore we need immigration. I'm not for illegal immigration, I'm for more immigration.