Abortions: Should Women be Allowed to Choose?

[Freewill]

What are you, stupid? A fetus becomes a human being when it is born and can live on its own.

Your turn.

What new born can live on its own? If that is your criteria then they don't become human until what? Three?

I'm really in over my head with you, huh? You are too sharp for me.

When do YOU think a fetus becomes a human being?

Glad you admit what everyone else knows.

Well if you quit spouting liberal BS maybe I wouldn't keep asking you questions you don't answer. When is unborn child worthy of protection? That is for the law to decide. But that time certainly is not after the unborn child is born, I don't believe there is one law that makes such a distinction. Only liberals that wish to sooth their conscience make such statements.

If we are going to send a drunken conservative who wrecks his car and kills an unborn child (fetus to you) to jail then lets be consistent in definitions.

 

[there4eyeM]

" Abortions: Should Women be Allowed to Choose?"

Let's go back to this original question.

Allowed to choose? Whom should we allow to decide what to allow?

 

[Katzndogz]

Sterilizing people is your answer? Perhaps you are the animal.

That's what we do to animals who act instinctively without thought. They can't control themselves so we act on their behalf. If it is true that men and women have no more control over their reproductive system than mating curs, we have an obligation to do it for them.

We also kill animals and eat them. Humans are generally treated better than animals.

They eat people in many parts of the world. We don't eat dogs and cats. They eat dogs and cats in many parts of the world. We do recognize that dogs and cats are ignorant of the way their bodies work. Men and women are ignorant of the way their bodies work and after 50 years of education cannot be made to understand how their bodies work. They have no control over their instinctive mating urges.

There are only a few ways to humanely handle the issue. By humanely, that includes not aborting the innocent child. One is to remove the child from the parents that don't want it and adopt it out so we don't have to import unwanted children from around the world. The other way is to make sure these people who cannot control themselves, no longer have the problem.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Outrage!

You are too emotional, it seems, to have this discussion.

When do you think a fetus becomes a human being?

Noooooo, you were asked the question, first, LL.....answer it.

Or, do you not have an aswer?

What are you, stupid? A fetus becomes a human being when it is born and can live on its own.

Your turn.

What are you, a friggin' idiot?

A human being is human upon conception......It sure as hell isn't a rat, ya' friggin' ghoul.

 

[Truthmatters]

a fetus is called a fetus for a reason.

Its called that until it can survive on its own outside the uterous.


Yes it is a human fetus but it also is not viable on its own.

Oh and BTW this country has already decided that a woman has a right to deside what happens inside her own body.

Your never going to chang that here.

I suggest you move to Sadui arabia they agree with you

 

[NoNukes]

That's what we do to animals who act instinctively without thought. They can't control themselves so we act on their behalf. If it is true that men and women have no more control over their reproductive system than mating curs, we have an obligation to do it for them.

We also kill animals and eat them. Humans are generally treated better than animals.

They eat people in many parts of the world. We don't eat dogs and cats. They eat dogs and cats in many parts of the world. We do recognize that dogs and cats are ignorant of the way their bodies work. Men and women are ignorant of the way their bodies work and after 50 years of education cannot be made to understand how their bodies work. They have no control over their instinctive mating urges.

There are only a few ways to humanely handle the issue. By humanely, that includes not aborting the innocent child. One is to remove the child from the parents that don't want it and adopt it out so we don't have to import unwanted children from around the world. The other way is to make sure these people who cannot control themselves, no longer have the problem.

You think that sterilization, tar and feathering and hanging people in the square is humanely dealing with the problem.

 

[NoNukes]

Noooooo, you were asked the question, first, LL.....answer it.

Or, do you not have an aswer?

What are you, stupid? A fetus becomes a human being when it is born and can live on its own.

Your turn.

What are you, a friggin' idiot?

A human being is human upon conception......It sure as hell isn't a rat, ya' friggin' ghoul.

That is only one opinion. As I said earlier, you do not think that others are entitled to their opinion b

 

[Katzndogz]

A fetus is a stage of development. Not a separate species.

How about we bring back the limitations in the Roe decision? Unlimited in the first trimester, a medical necessity in the second trimester and only to save the life of the mother in the third trimester.

 

[Freewill]

a fetus is called a fetus for a reason.

Its called that until it can survive on its own outside the uterous.


Yes it is a human fetus but it also is not viable on its own.

Oh and BTW this country has already decided that a woman has a right to deside what happens inside her own body.

Your never going to chang that here.

I suggest you move to Sadui arabia they agree with you

How old does an newborn have to be to survive on its own?

Where does one find that definition?

 

[Wicked Jester]

"...IF we managed to instill in people, starting at a young age, some sense of responsibility and the consequences of actions."

And we wouldn't have dishonest politicians, insincere religious figures, avaricious speculators that caused economic crises, soldiers that followed illegal and immoral orders and most of all the other rampart social ills.

True! While we have always had dishonest politicians, insincere religious figures and all the rest, we might have fewer of them. After all, there weren't many insincere religious figures when the penalty was to be tarred, feathered and run out of town. Consequences has largely been removed from the entirety of our culture. Everyone is a victim. This is a much larger subject. But, when the avaricious was strung up by the neck in the town square, there weren't that many.

Women who get pregnant and the men who impregnate them are not VICTIMS, they shouldn't be treated as if they had nothing to do with the pregnancy.

They should be treated as if they made a mistake, you are a barbarian, perhaps you would be satisfied in a less civilized environment.

Yeah, as if wantonely killing life in the wonb as a matter of convenience is "civilized," eh?

Christ, the hypocrisy from you ghouls is laughable.

 

[Freewill]

fe·tus

Noun

An unborn or unhatched offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.

ba·by (bb)
n. pl. ba·bies
1.
a. A very young child; an infant.
b. An unborn child; a fetus.
c. The youngest member of a family or group.
d. A very young animal.

 

[Katzndogz]

We also kill animals and eat them. Humans are generally treated better than animals.

They eat people in many parts of the world. We don't eat dogs and cats. They eat dogs and cats in many parts of the world. We do recognize that dogs and cats are ignorant of the way their bodies work. Men and women are ignorant of the way their bodies work and after 50 years of education cannot be made to understand how their bodies work. They have no control over their instinctive mating urges.

There are only a few ways to humanely handle the issue. By humanely, that includes not aborting the innocent child. One is to remove the child from the parents that don't want it and adopt it out so we don't have to import unwanted children from around the world. The other way is to make sure these people who cannot control themselves, no longer have the problem.

You think that sterilization, tar and feathering and hanging people in the square is humanely dealing with the problem.

Yes as a matter of fact, they DO deal with the problem. And they make people think before they act. The recidivism rate was remarkably low too.

 

[NoNukes]

True! While we have always had dishonest politicians, insincere religious figures and all the rest, we might have fewer of them. After all, there weren't many insincere religious figures when the penalty was to be tarred, feathered and run out of town. Consequences has largely been removed from the entirety of our culture. Everyone is a victim. This is a much larger subject. But, when the avaricious was strung up by the neck in the town square, there weren't that many.

Women who get pregnant and the men who impregnate them are not VICTIMS, they shouldn't be treated as if they had nothing to do with the pregnancy.

They should be treated as if they made a mistake, you are a barbarian, perhaps you would be satisfied in a less civilized environment.

Yeah, as if wantonely killing life in the wonb as a matter of convenience is "civilized," eh?

Christ, the hypocrisy from you ghouls is laughable.

It is legal according to the highest court in the land.

 

[Wicked Jester]

What are you, stupid? A fetus becomes a human being when it is born and can live on its own.

Your turn.

What are you, a friggin' idiot?

A human being is human upon conception......It sure as hell isn't a rat, ya' friggin' ghoul.

That is only one opinion. As I said earlier, you do not think that others are entitled to their opinion b

Nooooo, everbody is entitled to their opinion, just as i'm entitled to tell them their opinion is full o' shit.

If you don't like it, go cry me raging river, lib.

 

[NoNukes]

They eat people in many parts of the world. We don't eat dogs and cats. They eat dogs and cats in many parts of the world. We do recognize that dogs and cats are ignorant of the way their bodies work. Men and women are ignorant of the way their bodies work and after 50 years of education cannot be made to understand how their bodies work. They have no control over their instinctive mating urges.

There are only a few ways to humanely handle the issue. By humanely, that includes not aborting the innocent child. One is to remove the child from the parents that don't want it and adopt it out so we don't have to import unwanted children from around the world. The other way is to make sure these people who cannot control themselves, no longer have the problem.

You think that sterilization, tar and feathering and hanging people in the square is humanely dealing with the problem.

Yes as a matter of fact, they DO deal with the problem. And they make people think before they act. The recidivism rate was remarkably low too.

You have a strange idea of humane behavior. I hope that you do not have children.

 

[NoNukes]

What are you, a friggin' idiot?

A human being is human upon conception......It sure as hell isn't a rat, ya' friggin' ghoul.

That is only one opinion. As I said earlier, you do not think that others are entitled to their opinion b

Nooooo, everbody is entitled to their opinion, just as i'm entitled to tell them their opinion is full o' shit.

If you don't like it, go cry me raging river, lib.

But you must resort to childish name calling if someone has a different opinion.

 

[Wicked Jester]

They should be treated as if they made a mistake, you are a barbarian, perhaps you would be satisfied in a less civilized environment.

Yeah, as if wantonely killing life in the wonb as a matter of convenience is "civilized," eh?

Christ, the hypocrisy from you ghouls is laughable.

It is legal according to the highest court in the land.

True that.....And that is why it needs to be fought tooth and nail to have it changed.

Murder is murder, after all.

 

[JoeB131]

We would go along way to ending abortions if we considered it murder, and prosecuted the men who impregnanted these women as complicit in the crime. Or, as the perpetrators of the crime themselves. Men might be a bit more careful where and when they put their cocks.

So you want to live in a Nazi state?

The only country that actually prosecuted women for having abortions? Nazi Germany.

If you really think you can make laws to regulate sex, you are deluding yourself. We are hardwired by billions of years of evolution to do otherwise.

 

[Katzndogz]

We would go along way to ending abortions if we considered it murder, and prosecuted the men who impregnanted these women as complicit in the crime. Or, as the perpetrators of the crime themselves. Men might be a bit more careful where and when they put their cocks.

So you want to live in a Nazi state?

The only country that actually prosecuted women for having abortions? Nazi Germany.

If you really think you can make laws to regulate sex, you are deluding yourself. We are hardwired by billions of years of evolution to do otherwise.

Godwin's law violation! You lose.

 

[JoeB131]

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I do not believe women use abortion as birth control.

Your belief doesn't enter into this.

A lot of women do because they think that abortion is less of a hassle than taking a pill every day because they might have sex.