Zone1 About The Claim Made About the Great Society and Blacks

[Libby von H]

I have heard over and over the tired refrain from white members in ths forum about what the Great Society Program did to blacks. That claim is untrue.

The Aid To Dependent Children Program was created in 1935. Eventually the name of the program was changed to Aid to Families with Dependent Children. This was welfare long before Johnson. This program provided assistance for single mother with children with no father at home. Again this program began in In 1935. Blacks were excluded from this program. So from 1935, whites recived welfare and the welfsre was provided for white w9omen wirh no man in the house. And I have not read one article, watched on video or anything that talks about how this program provided incentives for whites to have children out of wedlock or how it destroyed the white family. Welfare had NEVER provided for a family with a man in the house, the Great Society had nothing to do with it.

Linda Gordon and Felice Batlan, The Legal History of the Aid to Dependent Children Program,Aid To Dependent Children: The Legal History

On July 28, 1967, President Lyndon Johnson established the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders. The more common name for this is The Kerner Commission.

The Kerner Commission recommended solutions based on the following three principles: 1. “To mount programs on a scale equal to the dimension of the problems.” 2. “To aim these programs for high impact in the immediate future in order to close the gap between promise and performance.” 3. “To undertake new initiatives and experiments that can change the system of failure and frustration that now dominates the ghetto and weakens our society.”

The Kerner Commission report was perhaps the most definitive government study done on race in the history of this nation. There has been little progress because at no level of government or society has America met even the first principle of the Kerner Commission. That is, “To mount programs on a scale equal to the dimension of the problems.”

Patrick Monyihan issued a report and various white people cling to that report even though it was debunked pretty much immediately after it was written. Most whites want to avoid the huge elephant sitting on their lap as the cause for any problem with race relations or issues pertaining to blacks and that is white racism. Other nn white groups have the same issues. That's another thing whites need to stop denying. The Great Society has nothing to do with anything.

Because you say it was debuunked, it was debunked. Actually it was strenghtened considerably
Almost 50 years later it was shown to be amazingly on target where the Kenner report was just silly I am sure you know this, why the lying !!!!!

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[Hector12]

Because you say it was debuunked, it was debunked. Actually it was strenghtened considerably
Almost 50 years later it was shown to be amazingly on target where the Kenner report was just silly I am sure you know this, why the lying !!!!!

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The Great Society failed because it assumed that the Negro race, collectively speaking, was intrinsically equal to the white race, There was no evidence at the time that this was true. There is considerable evidence now that it is not true.

 

[JoeB131]

The Great Society failed because it assumed that the Negro race, collectively speaking, was intrinsically equal to the white race, There was no evidence at the time that this was true. There is considerable evidence now that it is not true.

Except Blacks made substantial advancements in situations where they were allowed to prosper.

Take the military, which was one of the first segments in our society to desegregate.

 

[Hector12]

Except Blacks made substantial advancements in situations where they were allowed to prosper.

Take the military, which was one of the first segments in our society to desegregate.

Results for the military stand apart for all civilian work settings and occupations. One relevant factor for explaining the military's success is presumabley that each branch has its own minimum score on the Armed Forces Qualification Test require of all recruits. The Army requires a score in the 31th percentile or higher, equivalent to an IQ of 92.6 or more, which is roughly the top have of the African an d Latin distributions.

- Charles Murray, from Facing Reality: Two Truths About Race in America, page 84.

I reviewed Murray's book here:

"Facing Reality: Two Truths About Race in America," by Charles Murray

In Facing Reality: Two Truths About Race in America Charles Murray tells the dangerous truths. First, East Asians tend to be more intelligent than whites, who tend to be more intelligent than Hispanics, who tend to be more intelligent than Negroes. Second, East Asians have lower crime rates than...

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[Delldude]

Almost 50 years later it was shown to be amazingly on target where the Kenner report was just silly I am sure you know this, why the lying !!!!!

Highlights the disintegration of the family unit. Denzel Washington has mentioned this many times.

 

[Hector12]

You mean the kind of mean-spirited white bitch who posts on AmRen was disliked by her students?

Color me shocked.

Before you judge her, try to experience for one year what she endured for twenty years.

 

[Hector12]

Actually, it seems public education was wasted on you, but it's probably too late to get a refund.

Your opinions are confined by the limits of your life. You do not seem to do much reading. You airly dismiss facts you do not want to believe. You slander the most accomplished 0.2% demographic on earth and make excuses for a race that continues to dwell at the bottom, regardless of the civil rights legislation and the War on Poverty. You think suppression and force are legitimate ways of countering the assertions of Charles Murray, Jared Taylor, and Professor's Arthur Jensen, Richard Herrnstein and J. Philippe Rushton.

Suppression and force were the resorts of Hitler and his brown shirts, and Mao Tse Tung and his cultural revolutionaries. Those people are not remembered fondly now.

 

[Hector12]

I'm all for making sure every American has a renumerative job. I'd be happy to replace welfare with workfare.

You cannot train people with IQ's below 74 to do anything useful.

 

[JoeB131]

Results for the military stand apart for all civilian work settings and occupations. One relevant factor for explaining the military's success is presumabley that each branch has its own minimum score on the Armed Forces Qualification Test require of all recruits. The Army requires a score in the 31th percentile or higher, equivalent to an IQ of 92.6 or more, which is roughly the top have of the African an d Latin distributions.

Wow, it shows you don't know crap about the military. First, any idiot can pass the ASVAB. I have seen people of all races who can barely read and they passed the ASVAB, probably because their recruiters helped them.

Before you judge her, try to experience for one year what she endured for twenty years.

Don't have to. The fact that she posts on AmRen tells me she is a racist and a liar.

Your opinions are confined by the limits of your life. You do not seem to do much reading. You airly dismiss facts you do not want to believe. You slander the most accomplished 0.2% demographic on earth and make excuses for a race that continues to dwell at the bottom, regardless of the civil rights legislation and the War on Poverty. You think suppression and force are legitimate ways of countering the assertions of Charles Murray, Jared Taylor, and Professor's Arthur Jensen, Richard Herrnstein and J. Philippe Rushton.

I do plenty of reading, but I also have street smarts, something you seem to lack.

I think that suppression is the best answer to the racists because frankly, there's no other way to turn them into decent human beings OTHER than subjecting them to a life ruin.

As for the Jews... um, that's their religion. They really think their imaginary sky friend approves of their bad behavior, and they keep doing it no matter what the consequences. Only a matter of time before they wear out their welcome in this country, too.

 

[JoeB131]

You cannot train people with IQ's below 74 to do anything useful.

Sure you can. You can also educate them to have an IQ above 74, if you commit enough resources and purge any asshole teacher who thinks posting on AmRen is okay.

 

[Libby von H]

Could have kept her legs shut.

I hope GOD quotes that to you when you die.

 

[Libby von H]

The Great Society failed because it assumed that the Negro race, collectively speaking, was intrinsically equal to the white race, There was no evidence at the time that this was true. There is considerable evidence now that it is not true.

False again ,coming and going false,as they say.
You assume that GS was good in theory and bad in practice.
No,it was very bad in theory.

Even Daniel Moynihan repented

Here is the great modern historian of the Great Society Amite Shlaes

"
Shlaes sums up by telling the reader that “the results of our experimentations in expanding government were not generous.” There were, she explains, “profound sources of the unexpected tragedies of the Great Society endeavor,” which had looked upon the private sector as little more than a “milk cow.” Worse yet, she argues, the “1960s experiment and its 1970s aftermath suggest” that the “social democratic compromise” of the Great Society came “close enough to socialism to cause economic tragedy.”

Moynihan came to acknowledge the misbegotten character of his plans for a guaranteed annual income. "

 

[Libby von H]

HERE IT IS IN THAT MATH YOU HATE

 

[Delldude]

I hope GOD quotes that to you when you die.

Not my quote.......

 

[Hector12]

Sure you can. You can also educate them to have an IQ above 74, if you commit enough resources and purge any asshole teacher who thinks posting on AmRen is okay.

If it was possible to significantly and permanently increase the IQ of a child who scores poorly on an IQ test at the age of seven Head Start and No Child Left Behind would have been successful. Instead they have both been expensive failures.

In failing, Head Start and No Child Left Behind have led to the widespread suspicion that the government cannot do any thing right.

 

[Hector12]

Wow, it shows you don't know crap about the military. First, any idiot can pass the ASVAB. I have seen people of all races who can barely read and they passed the ASVAB, probably because their recruiters helped them.

Again you are talking about your personal life. I quoted Charles Murray.

 

[Hector12]

Don't have to. The fact that she posts on AmRen tells me she is a racist and a liar.

A racist is one who is willing to discuss the facts that blacks tend to perform less well than whites and Orientals on all the objective, measurable tests of intelligence, and that blacks have higher rates of crime and illegitimacy than whites, and much higher rates than Orientals.

 

[JoeB131]

Again you are talking about your personal life. I quoted Charles Murray.

Did Murray ever serve in the military? If he did, it was probably during a time when they still had a draft, and like a lot of privileged white people, he found a way to avoid it.

The thing is, I can talk about the military because I was in it for 11 years. I have the stripes and medals to prove it.

But you read something in a book by a racist who never served, that makes you an expert.

I'd say get out of your basement and live a real life, but I can't think of any real people I'd want to inflict you on.

If it was possible to significantly and permanently increase the IQ of a child who scores poorly on an IQ test at the age of seven Head Start and No Child Left Behind would have been successful. Instead they have both been expensive failures.

No, it just shows that calling glorified Day Care an education program is kind of foolish. We've already established that NCLB was no more than a slogan by Bush (who is probably dumber than most of the black people you rant about.) and Head Start was never anything more than daycare.

 

[Hector12]

I do plenty of reading, but I also have street smarts, something you seem to lack.

I have learned to avoid young black men I do not know unless they are obviously dressed for work or church. I have also learned that those precautions are not necessary for young white, Oriental, or even Hispanic men.

 

[JoeB131]

A racist is one who is willing to discuss the facts that blacks tend to perform less well than whites and Orientals on all the objective, measurable tests of intelligence, and that blacks have higher rates of crime and illegitimacy than whites, and much higher rates than Orientals.

No, a racist is a sad loser who needs a racial identity to make up for his own lack of accomplishments in life.

You see, I never have to brag about being a white person. The things I've accomplished in life are mine and mine alone, and other white people had nothing to do with it (other than creating the privilege I've no doubt benefited from.)