Accidental gun discharges in AL & TN

[Brain357]

But accidental gun deaths happen far more than home invasion murders. You can't tell everyone to worry about those and then brush off accidental deaths.

Brain, I don't....I keep telling you gun safety should be taught alongside fire safety in schools......then you have life long exposure to gun safety.....problem of accidental gun deaths addressed......

Arrest more criminals using guns and keep them locked up...and the other side of the problem is also dealt with.....

But you do. You think everyone needs a gun because their house is going to be invaded and someone is going to try to kill them. Meanwhile you say accidental shootings are no problem. But accidental shootings are more likely than the things you tell people they need a gun for...

There are 505 accidental gun deaths in 2013...and on average 2 million times a year that Americans use guns to stop or prevent violent crime and save lives.........that is far more than gun murders...in 2013 8,454......so you are wrong.....

And everyone wears a seatbelt and looks both ways to cross the street...most people will live their whole lives and never meet a violent criminal or have to fight for their lives....

And then there are the unlucky ones who do........like the family in Connecticut...a Doctor and his family living in a really nice town.....the Doctor beaten with a bat, the wife and daughters raped and burned to death.....do you think they woke up that morning thinking that was going to happen......?

the family in D.C, a block or two away from Joe Biden's heavily fortified house.....the father, mother, son and housekeeper....tortured and murdered...do you think they woke up that morning thinking that was going to be their fate?

The woman raped by two men in her own car...then shoved in the trunk and drowned, in the car, in a lake....do you think she woke up and said....gee...I am going to be raped and brutally murdered today...?

A gun is no different than a seat belt.......

Well obviously your 2 million number comes from fantasy land. Nothing in reality supports that number. And even 11 of your own gun studies says it is less.

And your extremely rare stories come out. You are scared of extremely rare instances of home invasion and murder. Far more rare than accidental gun deaths. Sorry you can't be paranoid of those rare events then act like the more frequent accidental shootings are no problem.

A gun is very different from a seatbelt. Nobody is accidently killed by their seatbelt. Would you wear a seatbelt if people were accidently injured by them 17,000 times a year? Would you wear one if 500 people were accidently killed by them each year? If that were happening they would be recalled...

Would you wear a seatbelt if people were accidently injured by them 17,000 times a year

And yet you have no problem with people driving in cars when they accidentally killed over 35,000 people last year...and injured over 2.31 million people last year......

And again...accidental gun deaths in 2013.....only 505, in a country of over 320 million people, with over 90 million homes with guns and over 11.1 million people carrying guns for protection.....

I believe in having the means to protect yourself from criminals....just like wearing a seat belt helps keep you safe in car accidents...you never know when they will happen but you are prepared just in case.......

Yes over 200 million drivers. And cars are very important. Most people NEED them.

Carrying a gun is dangerous. 17000 people injured in accidents. No such numbers for seat belts.

 

[2aguy]

Brain, I don't....I keep telling you gun safety should be taught alongside fire safety in schools......then you have life long exposure to gun safety.....problem of accidental gun deaths addressed......

Arrest more criminals using guns and keep them locked up...and the other side of the problem is also dealt with.....

But you do. You think everyone needs a gun because their house is going to be invaded and someone is going to try to kill them. Meanwhile you say accidental shootings are no problem. But accidental shootings are more likely than the things you tell people they need a gun for...

There are 505 accidental gun deaths in 2013...and on average 2 million times a year that Americans use guns to stop or prevent violent crime and save lives.........that is far more than gun murders...in 2013 8,454......so you are wrong.....

And everyone wears a seatbelt and looks both ways to cross the street...most people will live their whole lives and never meet a violent criminal or have to fight for their lives....

And then there are the unlucky ones who do........like the family in Connecticut...a Doctor and his family living in a really nice town.....the Doctor beaten with a bat, the wife and daughters raped and burned to death.....do you think they woke up that morning thinking that was going to happen......?

the family in D.C, a block or two away from Joe Biden's heavily fortified house.....the father, mother, son and housekeeper....tortured and murdered...do you think they woke up that morning thinking that was going to be their fate?

The woman raped by two men in her own car...then shoved in the trunk and drowned, in the car, in a lake....do you think she woke up and said....gee...I am going to be raped and brutally murdered today...?

A gun is no different than a seat belt.......

Well obviously your 2 million number comes from fantasy land. Nothing in reality supports that number. And even 11 of your own gun studies says it is less.

And your extremely rare stories come out. You are scared of extremely rare instances of home invasion and murder. Far more rare than accidental gun deaths. Sorry you can't be paranoid of those rare events then act like the more frequent accidental shootings are no problem.

A gun is very different from a seatbelt. Nobody is accidently killed by their seatbelt. Would you wear a seatbelt if people were accidently injured by them 17,000 times a year? Would you wear one if 500 people were accidently killed by them each year? If that were happening they would be recalled...

Would you wear a seatbelt if people were accidently injured by them 17,000 times a year

And yet you have no problem with people driving in cars when they accidentally killed over 35,000 people last year...and injured over 2.31 million people last year......

And again...accidental gun deaths in 2013.....only 505, in a country of over 320 million people, with over 90 million homes with guns and over 11.1 million people carrying guns for protection.....

I believe in having the means to protect yourself from criminals....just like wearing a seat belt helps keep you safe in car accidents...you never know when they will happen but you are prepared just in case.......

Yes over 200 million drivers. And cars are very important. Most people NEED them.

Carrying a gun is dangerous. 17000 people injured in accidents. No such numbers for seat belts.

And over 35,000 accidental deaths in cars and over 2.31 million injuries....

Accidental gun deaths...505 injuries...17,000

Keep the gun, leave the car and the cannoli....

 

[2aguy]

But you do. You think everyone needs a gun because their house is going to be invaded and someone is going to try to kill them. Meanwhile you say accidental shootings are no problem. But accidental shootings are more likely than the things you tell people they need a gun for...

There are 505 accidental gun deaths in 2013...and on average 2 million times a year that Americans use guns to stop or prevent violent crime and save lives.........that is far more than gun murders...in 2013 8,454......so you are wrong.....

And everyone wears a seatbelt and looks both ways to cross the street...most people will live their whole lives and never meet a violent criminal or have to fight for their lives....

And then there are the unlucky ones who do........like the family in Connecticut...a Doctor and his family living in a really nice town.....the Doctor beaten with a bat, the wife and daughters raped and burned to death.....do you think they woke up that morning thinking that was going to happen......?

the family in D.C, a block or two away from Joe Biden's heavily fortified house.....the father, mother, son and housekeeper....tortured and murdered...do you think they woke up that morning thinking that was going to be their fate?

The woman raped by two men in her own car...then shoved in the trunk and drowned, in the car, in a lake....do you think she woke up and said....gee...I am going to be raped and brutally murdered today...?

A gun is no different than a seat belt.......

Well obviously your 2 million number comes from fantasy land. Nothing in reality supports that number. And even 11 of your own gun studies says it is less.

And your extremely rare stories come out. You are scared of extremely rare instances of home invasion and murder. Far more rare than accidental gun deaths. Sorry you can't be paranoid of those rare events then act like the more frequent accidental shootings are no problem.

A gun is very different from a seatbelt. Nobody is accidently killed by their seatbelt. Would you wear a seatbelt if people were accidently injured by them 17,000 times a year? Would you wear one if 500 people were accidently killed by them each year? If that were happening they would be recalled...

Would you wear a seatbelt if people were accidently injured by them 17,000 times a year

And yet you have no problem with people driving in cars when they accidentally killed over 35,000 people last year...and injured over 2.31 million people last year......

And again...accidental gun deaths in 2013.....only 505, in a country of over 320 million people, with over 90 million homes with guns and over 11.1 million people carrying guns for protection.....

I believe in having the means to protect yourself from criminals....just like wearing a seat belt helps keep you safe in car accidents...you never know when they will happen but you are prepared just in case.......

And the 2 million number comes from averaging actual research into civilian defensive gun use......and the lowest number in all the studies is 764,000 times a year a gun is used to stop or prevent violent criminal attack and save lives....

Yes debunked gun studies. 11 of which say the number is less than 2 million. Have you come up with anything from the real world that supports your crazy number yet?

Again Brain...you saying ..."I debunk thee..." does not "debunk" 19 studies conducted over 40 years by separate, both public and private researchers including many anti gun researchers including the clinton justice dept. and the obama CDC.......

 

[Brain357]

But you do. You think everyone needs a gun because their house is going to be invaded and someone is going to try to kill them. Meanwhile you say accidental shootings are no problem. But accidental shootings are more likely than the things you tell people they need a gun for...

There are 505 accidental gun deaths in 2013...and on average 2 million times a year that Americans use guns to stop or prevent violent crime and save lives.........that is far more than gun murders...in 2013 8,454......so you are wrong.....

And everyone wears a seatbelt and looks both ways to cross the street...most people will live their whole lives and never meet a violent criminal or have to fight for their lives....

And then there are the unlucky ones who do........like the family in Connecticut...a Doctor and his family living in a really nice town.....the Doctor beaten with a bat, the wife and daughters raped and burned to death.....do you think they woke up that morning thinking that was going to happen......?

the family in D.C, a block or two away from Joe Biden's heavily fortified house.....the father, mother, son and housekeeper....tortured and murdered...do you think they woke up that morning thinking that was going to be their fate?

The woman raped by two men in her own car...then shoved in the trunk and drowned, in the car, in a lake....do you think she woke up and said....gee...I am going to be raped and brutally murdered today...?

A gun is no different than a seat belt.......

Well obviously your 2 million number comes from fantasy land. Nothing in reality supports that number. And even 11 of your own gun studies says it is less.

And your extremely rare stories come out. You are scared of extremely rare instances of home invasion and murder. Far more rare than accidental gun deaths. Sorry you can't be paranoid of those rare events then act like the more frequent accidental shootings are no problem.

A gun is very different from a seatbelt. Nobody is accidently killed by their seatbelt. Would you wear a seatbelt if people were accidently injured by them 17,000 times a year? Would you wear one if 500 people were accidently killed by them each year? If that were happening they would be recalled...

Would you wear a seatbelt if people were accidently injured by them 17,000 times a year

And yet you have no problem with people driving in cars when they accidentally killed over 35,000 people last year...and injured over 2.31 million people last year......

And again...accidental gun deaths in 2013.....only 505, in a country of over 320 million people, with over 90 million homes with guns and over 11.1 million people carrying guns for protection.....

I believe in having the means to protect yourself from criminals....just like wearing a seat belt helps keep you safe in car accidents...you never know when they will happen but you are prepared just in case.......

Yes over 200 million drivers. And cars are very important. Most people NEED them.

Carrying a gun is dangerous. 17000 people injured in accidents. No such numbers for seat belts.

And over 35,000 accidental deaths in cars and over 2.31 million injuries....

Accidental gun deaths...505 injuries...17,000

Keep the gun, leave the car and the cannoli....

That happens when something is used many millions of times more than something else.

 

[2aguy]

There are 505 accidental gun deaths in 2013...and on average 2 million times a year that Americans use guns to stop or prevent violent crime and save lives.........that is far more than gun murders...in 2013 8,454......so you are wrong.....

And everyone wears a seatbelt and looks both ways to cross the street...most people will live their whole lives and never meet a violent criminal or have to fight for their lives....

And then there are the unlucky ones who do........like the family in Connecticut...a Doctor and his family living in a really nice town.....the Doctor beaten with a bat, the wife and daughters raped and burned to death.....do you think they woke up that morning thinking that was going to happen......?

the family in D.C, a block or two away from Joe Biden's heavily fortified house.....the father, mother, son and housekeeper....tortured and murdered...do you think they woke up that morning thinking that was going to be their fate?

The woman raped by two men in her own car...then shoved in the trunk and drowned, in the car, in a lake....do you think she woke up and said....gee...I am going to be raped and brutally murdered today...?

A gun is no different than a seat belt.......

Well obviously your 2 million number comes from fantasy land. Nothing in reality supports that number. And even 11 of your own gun studies says it is less.

And your extremely rare stories come out. You are scared of extremely rare instances of home invasion and murder. Far more rare than accidental gun deaths. Sorry you can't be paranoid of those rare events then act like the more frequent accidental shootings are no problem.

A gun is very different from a seatbelt. Nobody is accidently killed by their seatbelt. Would you wear a seatbelt if people were accidently injured by them 17,000 times a year? Would you wear one if 500 people were accidently killed by them each year? If that were happening they would be recalled...

Would you wear a seatbelt if people were accidently injured by them 17,000 times a year

And yet you have no problem with people driving in cars when they accidentally killed over 35,000 people last year...and injured over 2.31 million people last year......

And again...accidental gun deaths in 2013.....only 505, in a country of over 320 million people, with over 90 million homes with guns and over 11.1 million people carrying guns for protection.....

I believe in having the means to protect yourself from criminals....just like wearing a seat belt helps keep you safe in car accidents...you never know when they will happen but you are prepared just in case.......

Yes over 200 million drivers. And cars are very important. Most people NEED them.

Carrying a gun is dangerous. 17000 people injured in accidents. No such numbers for seat belts.

And over 35,000 accidental deaths in cars and over 2.31 million injuries....

Accidental gun deaths...505 injuries...17,000

Keep the gun, leave the car and the cannoli....

That happens when something is used many millions of times more than something else.

Oh....so you are okay with 35,000 people getting killed by cars and over 2.31 million injured in cars...but 505 gun accidental deaths is something you just can't abide...got you.....

 

[Brain357]

There are 505 accidental gun deaths in 2013...and on average 2 million times a year that Americans use guns to stop or prevent violent crime and save lives.........that is far more than gun murders...in 2013 8,454......so you are wrong.....

And everyone wears a seatbelt and looks both ways to cross the street...most people will live their whole lives and never meet a violent criminal or have to fight for their lives....

And then there are the unlucky ones who do........like the family in Connecticut...a Doctor and his family living in a really nice town.....the Doctor beaten with a bat, the wife and daughters raped and burned to death.....do you think they woke up that morning thinking that was going to happen......?

the family in D.C, a block or two away from Joe Biden's heavily fortified house.....the father, mother, son and housekeeper....tortured and murdered...do you think they woke up that morning thinking that was going to be their fate?

The woman raped by two men in her own car...then shoved in the trunk and drowned, in the car, in a lake....do you think she woke up and said....gee...I am going to be raped and brutally murdered today...?

A gun is no different than a seat belt.......

Well obviously your 2 million number comes from fantasy land. Nothing in reality supports that number. And even 11 of your own gun studies says it is less.

And your extremely rare stories come out. You are scared of extremely rare instances of home invasion and murder. Far more rare than accidental gun deaths. Sorry you can't be paranoid of those rare events then act like the more frequent accidental shootings are no problem.

A gun is very different from a seatbelt. Nobody is accidently killed by their seatbelt. Would you wear a seatbelt if people were accidently injured by them 17,000 times a year? Would you wear one if 500 people were accidently killed by them each year? If that were happening they would be recalled...

Would you wear a seatbelt if people were accidently injured by them 17,000 times a year

And yet you have no problem with people driving in cars when they accidentally killed over 35,000 people last year...and injured over 2.31 million people last year......

And again...accidental gun deaths in 2013.....only 505, in a country of over 320 million people, with over 90 million homes with guns and over 11.1 million people carrying guns for protection.....

I believe in having the means to protect yourself from criminals....just like wearing a seat belt helps keep you safe in car accidents...you never know when they will happen but you are prepared just in case.......

And the 2 million number comes from averaging actual research into civilian defensive gun use......and the lowest number in all the studies is 764,000 times a year a gun is used to stop or prevent violent criminal attack and save lives....

Yes debunked gun studies. 11 of which say the number is less than 2 million. Have you come up with anything from the real world that supports your crazy number yet?

Again Brain...you saying ..."I debunk thee..." does not "debunk" 19 studies conducted over 40 years by separate, both public and private researchers including many anti gun researchers including the clinton justice dept. and the obama CDC.......

Many researchers have debunked them. Again what fact from reality supports them? Many facts prove your numbers false. Let's hear the real world support.

 

[2aguy]

Well obviously your 2 million number comes from fantasy land. Nothing in reality supports that number. And even 11 of your own gun studies says it is less.

And your extremely rare stories come out. You are scared of extremely rare instances of home invasion and murder. Far more rare than accidental gun deaths. Sorry you can't be paranoid of those rare events then act like the more frequent accidental shootings are no problem.

A gun is very different from a seatbelt. Nobody is accidently killed by their seatbelt. Would you wear a seatbelt if people were accidently injured by them 17,000 times a year? Would you wear one if 500 people were accidently killed by them each year? If that were happening they would be recalled...

Would you wear a seatbelt if people were accidently injured by them 17,000 times a year

And yet you have no problem with people driving in cars when they accidentally killed over 35,000 people last year...and injured over 2.31 million people last year......

And again...accidental gun deaths in 2013.....only 505, in a country of over 320 million people, with over 90 million homes with guns and over 11.1 million people carrying guns for protection.....

I believe in having the means to protect yourself from criminals....just like wearing a seat belt helps keep you safe in car accidents...you never know when they will happen but you are prepared just in case.......

And the 2 million number comes from averaging actual research into civilian defensive gun use......and the lowest number in all the studies is 764,000 times a year a gun is used to stop or prevent violent criminal attack and save lives....

Yes debunked gun studies. 11 of which say the number is less than 2 million. Have you come up with anything from the real world that supports your crazy number yet?

Again Brain...you saying ..."I debunk thee..." does not "debunk" 19 studies conducted over 40 years by separate, both public and private researchers including many anti gun researchers including the clinton justice dept. and the obama CDC.......

Many researchers have debunked them. Again what fact from reality supports them? Many facts prove your numbers false. Let's hear the real world support.

No...many anti gun researchers...like hemenway...have used bad research to try to debunk these studies and have only shown that their own research is not only flawed but biased because they are anti gun and have allowed that bias to infect their research..........

 

[Brain357]

Well obviously your 2 million number comes from fantasy land. Nothing in reality supports that number. And even 11 of your own gun studies says it is less.

And your extremely rare stories come out. You are scared of extremely rare instances of home invasion and murder. Far more rare than accidental gun deaths. Sorry you can't be paranoid of those rare events then act like the more frequent accidental shootings are no problem.

A gun is very different from a seatbelt. Nobody is accidently killed by their seatbelt. Would you wear a seatbelt if people were accidently injured by them 17,000 times a year? Would you wear one if 500 people were accidently killed by them each year? If that were happening they would be recalled...

Would you wear a seatbelt if people were accidently injured by them 17,000 times a year

And yet you have no problem with people driving in cars when they accidentally killed over 35,000 people last year...and injured over 2.31 million people last year......

And again...accidental gun deaths in 2013.....only 505, in a country of over 320 million people, with over 90 million homes with guns and over 11.1 million people carrying guns for protection.....

I believe in having the means to protect yourself from criminals....just like wearing a seat belt helps keep you safe in car accidents...you never know when they will happen but you are prepared just in case.......

Yes over 200 million drivers. And cars are very important. Most people NEED them.

Carrying a gun is dangerous. 17000 people injured in accidents. No such numbers for seat belts.

And over 35,000 accidental deaths in cars and over 2.31 million injuries....

Accidental gun deaths...505 injuries...17,000

Keep the gun, leave the car and the cannoli....

That happens when something is used many millions of times more than something else.

Oh....so you are okay with 35,000 people getting killed by cars and over 2.31 million injured in cars...but 505 gun accidental deaths is something you just can't abide...got you.....

No that's why cars are getting safer. Why there are so many laws regarding cars. Why we have speed limits... Your arguments are silly, give up now.

 

[Brain357]

And yet you have no problem with people driving in cars when they accidentally killed over 35,000 people last year...and injured over 2.31 million people last year......

And again...accidental gun deaths in 2013.....only 505, in a country of over 320 million people, with over 90 million homes with guns and over 11.1 million people carrying guns for protection.....

I believe in having the means to protect yourself from criminals....just like wearing a seat belt helps keep you safe in car accidents...you never know when they will happen but you are prepared just in case.......

And the 2 million number comes from averaging actual research into civilian defensive gun use......and the lowest number in all the studies is 764,000 times a year a gun is used to stop or prevent violent criminal attack and save lives....

Yes debunked gun studies. 11 of which say the number is less than 2 million. Have you come up with anything from the real world that supports your crazy number yet?

Again Brain...you saying ..."I debunk thee..." does not "debunk" 19 studies conducted over 40 years by separate, both public and private researchers including many anti gun researchers including the clinton justice dept. and the obama CDC.......

Many researchers have debunked them. Again what fact from reality supports them? Many facts prove your numbers false. Let's hear the real world support.

No...many anti gun researchers...like hemenway...have used bad research to try to debunk these studies and have only shown that their own research is not only flawed but biased because they are anti gun and have allowed that bias to infect their research..........

You mean kleck has defended his own study. What a surprise there. He's also inconsistent depending on what part of his flawed study he is defending.

I still don't hear any real world support.

 

[2aguy]

And the 2 million number comes from averaging actual research into civilian defensive gun use......and the lowest number in all the studies is 764,000 times a year a gun is used to stop or prevent violent criminal attack and save lives....

Yes debunked gun studies. 11 of which say the number is less than 2 million. Have you come up with anything from the real world that supports your crazy number yet?

Again Brain...you saying ..."I debunk thee..." does not "debunk" 19 studies conducted over 40 years by separate, both public and private researchers including many anti gun researchers including the clinton justice dept. and the obama CDC.......

Many researchers have debunked them. Again what fact from reality supports them? Many facts prove your numbers false. Let's hear the real world support.

No...many anti gun researchers...like hemenway...have used bad research to try to debunk these studies and have only shown that their own research is not only flawed but biased because they are anti gun and have allowed that bias to infect their research..........

You mean kleck has defended his own study. What a surprise there. He's also inconsistent depending on what part of his flawed study he is defending.

I still don't hear any real world support.

No....other researchers have defended Kleck's study...and again...Kleck's study isn't the only study that puts the numbers at over 2 million a year.....and not one study puts the number lower than 764,000 so the focus on Kleck...whose methods are well documented and proven......vs. the combined weight of all 19 studies.....many done by anti gun researchers including the reserchers who did the study for clinton's Justice Dept. and the obama CDC study in 2013.....came out with numbers over 1 million.....

So the gun nut focus on Kleck is a result of his study being the most detailed study on the subject.....since he started out as an anti gunnner who wanted to clean up the methods used to study gun self defense......thinking it would show that gun self defense was a rare occurence......and he was shocked by what he found.......and wise enough to understand the data when he found it.....

 

[Brain357]

Yes debunked gun studies. 11 of which say the number is less than 2 million. Have you come up with anything from the real world that supports your crazy number yet?

Again Brain...you saying ..."I debunk thee..." does not "debunk" 19 studies conducted over 40 years by separate, both public and private researchers including many anti gun researchers including the clinton justice dept. and the obama CDC.......

Many researchers have debunked them. Again what fact from reality supports them? Many facts prove your numbers false. Let's hear the real world support.

No...many anti gun researchers...like hemenway...have used bad research to try to debunk these studies and have only shown that their own research is not only flawed but biased because they are anti gun and have allowed that bias to infect their research..........

You mean kleck has defended his own study. What a surprise there. He's also inconsistent depending on what part of his flawed study he is defending.

I still don't hear any real world support.

No....other researchers have defended Kleck's study...and again...Kleck's study isn't the only study that puts the numbers at over 2 million a year.....and not one study puts the number lower than 764,000 so the focus on Kleck...whose methods are well documented and proven......vs. the combined weight of all 19 studies.....many done by anti gun researchers including the reserchers who did the study for clinton's Justice Dept. and the obama CDC study in 2013.....came out with numbers over 1 million.....

So the gun nut focus on Kleck is a result of his study being the most detailed study on the subject.....since he started out as an anti gunnner who wanted to clean up the methods used to study gun self defense......thinking it would show that gun self defense was a rare occurence......and he was shocked by what he found.......and wise enough to understand the data when he found it.....

Almost nobody defends them.

Again where is anything from reality to support them? There is much that counters them.

 

[WinterBorn]

"Most distinctive cause of death"? Distinctive?

It means it stands out relative to other states. Far more people as a percent of population are killed in AL and TN by accidental shootings than other states.

So it is relative to accidental shooting deaths in other states, but not relative to other causes of death? Sounds meaningless to me.

 

[Brain357]

"Most distinctive cause of death"? Distinctive?

It means it stands out relative to other states. Far more people as a percent of population are killed in AL and TN by accidental shootings than other states.

So it is relative to accidental shooting deaths in other states, but not relative to other causes of death? Sounds meaningless to me.

Yes. Well it's telling AL and TN they have a problem. I wouldn't call that meaningless. Clearly it is bad to have more people dying in gun accidents than other states.

 

[WinterBorn]

"Most distinctive cause of death"? Distinctive?

There were 336 accidental gun deaths in Tennessee between 2001 and 2010.

Gun accidents set Tennessee apart from other states

A lot for just one state based on national numbers.

So an average of around 33 accidental shooting deaths per year? In a state with a population of a little over 6.5 million people? And this is a reason to change gun laws?

 

[Brain357]

"Most distinctive cause of death"? Distinctive?

There were 336 accidental gun deaths in Tennessee between 2001 and 2010.

Gun accidents set Tennessee apart from other states

A lot for just one state based on national numbers.

So an average of around 33 accidental shooting deaths per year? In a state with a population of a little over 6.5 million people? And this is a reason to change gun laws?

I don't know I'd change laws so much as just emphasize gun safety. Guns should be safely stored.

 

[WinterBorn]

"Most distinctive cause of death"? Distinctive?

It means it stands out relative to other states. Far more people as a percent of population are killed in AL and TN by accidental shootings than other states.

So it is relative to accidental shooting deaths in other states, but not relative to other causes of death? Sounds meaningless to me.

Yes. Well it's telling AL and TN they have a problem. I wouldn't call that meaningless. Clearly it is bad to have more people dying in gun accidents than other states.

I would have to see more data. From what I have seen, there are an average of about 600 accidental shooting deaths annually in the U.S. That an average of 33 happen in one state with over 6.5 million people and a high rate of gun ownership does not seem significant.

 

[WinterBorn]

"Most distinctive cause of death"? Distinctive?

There were 336 accidental gun deaths in Tennessee between 2001 and 2010.

Gun accidents set Tennessee apart from other states

A lot for just one state based on national numbers.

So an average of around 33 accidental shooting deaths per year? In a state with a population of a little over 6.5 million people? And this is a reason to change gun laws?

I don't know I'd change laws so much as just emphasize gun safety. Guns should be safely stored.

I agree with you there.

 

[Brain357]

"Most distinctive cause of death"? Distinctive?

It means it stands out relative to other states. Far more people as a percent of population are killed in AL and TN by accidental shootings than other states.

So it is relative to accidental shooting deaths in other states, but not relative to other causes of death? Sounds meaningless to me.

Yes. Well it's telling AL and TN they have a problem. I wouldn't call that meaningless. Clearly it is bad to have more people dying in gun accidents than other states.

I would have to see more data. From what I have seen, there are an average of about 600 accidental shooting deaths annually in the U.S. That an average of 33 happen in one state with over 6.5 million people and a high rate of gun ownership does not seem significant.

Well based on those numbers they are like 2% of the country, but account for like 5.5%of accidental deaths. I would hope this makes people more aware of the dangers and they take safety more seriously. I think we both agree guns can be carried and owned safely. It's people who are making mistakes that have the problem. More reminders of the danger can't hurt.

 

[Uncensored2008]

No. We should discuss safety.

Over 7,300 people die each year in America from slips and falls - using your brain damaged "logic," we must outlaw tubs and showers.

Most Common Causes of Death Due to Injury in the US

 

[Brain357]

No. We should discuss safety.

Over 7,300 people die each year in America from slips and falls - using your brain damaged "logic," we must outlaw tubs and showers.

Most Common Causes of Death Due to Injury in the US

You seem to be brain damaged. I haven't suggested banning anything.