taichiliberal
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Actually, it is up to the candidate to impress me. Said candidate has competition that will impress me.
You state moot point, which in on way, shape or form changes the accurate points above in highlighting the flaws of your interview tactics.
Yep, everybody that conducts interviews makes assumptions. We have 30 to 60 minutes to form an opinion about the candidate based upon that limited time with them. I'm sorry you don't like that, but it is a cold hard fact of reality. Calling references is a waste of time, candidates don't list a person as a reference that say anything negative about said candidate, that's another reality. It's not a "preconceived notion", it's an assessment based upon observed facts.
Sorry, but restating your irrelevent, preconceived personal bias based on the condition of a car does NOT justify it. Again, NO ONE IS ASKING YOU TO LIVE WITH THAT PERSON, and unless YOU have CONCRETE EVIDENCE that the applicant is a "slob" at work, then you're essentially and potentially throwing out a perfectly good worker because they have messy car! That's a bias based on a preconceived notion on your part, because last time I checked, one does not drive ones car onto the office floor to work out of. Hell, in the last few years we've seen CEO's and various upper and white collar management types go to jail for all sorts of theft, debauchery, etc. Now the conditions of their cars didn't give them away, did it now? So your "assumptions" based on your LIMITED "observed facts" wouldn't have been worth a piss in the wind, now would it?
I'm not HR/Personal. In the past I've been the hiring supervisor. Today, I am interviewing potential peers. I don't want somebody hired that isn't going to fit into our culture or our team dynamics, it would be a disservice to the company and to the candidate to hire the wrong person.
YOU STILL CANNOT JUSTIFY WHAT YOU PREVIOUSLY STATED, as I've aptly demonstrated above. And if indeed you are not hiring someone for a "job", you're hiring someone to hang out with and play into the pretentious "culture" trappings & games that are required for some upper management/executive type position, then that would explain how out of touch your original response was.
I've been on both sides of the interview. I've been interviewed for jobs and interviewed others for jobs. Your posts sound like you've only been on one side of that equation.
Again, you STILL cannot logically refute or disprove the points I've made. Touting your personal success means NOTHING to those who have been victims of the nonsense I've described in the OP. Once again, you've given an example of PRECISELY what I'm talking about. What's disappointing is that you stubbornly defend your erroneous ways with nothing more than repetition and moot points.
Ok, I'm done with you.
Translation: I called you on two major points that are examples of the BS job seekers have to face. You couldn't logically refute them or defend your stance, so now you're going to try and save face with a bluff and bluster.
We obviously have a difference of opinion about how the real world works.
Translation: I gave "real world" examples of the bullshit perpetraited by people like you, and you don't like it. You couldn't logically or factually prove me wrong, but you're going to try and BS that you're right none-the-less.
I haven't "touted" anything, I've merely mentioned my experience.
That is a lie, as the chronology of the posts shows. And I pointed out how you are WRONG with regards as to how you evaluate an applicant and waste their time, your "experience" none-withstanding.
I'm not trying to "justify" anything, again, merely mentioning real world facts and experiences.
Your interpretation of the "real world" just keeps proving my points in the OP over and over and over. That you're too full of yourself to realize it is all the more to pity....that you are STILL able to affect peoples job careers is truly troubling.
You seem almost as if your entire purpose is merely to pick a fight.
No sweetpea, my purpose was to state a matter of fact that is a constant problem in our society regarding the game of employment opportunities and those who affect job hiring. That a joker like YOU was compelled to give out some "advice" that was easily deconstructed and disproved by me doesn't say much for your vaunted 37 years of experience. Sorry, but no one said life was going to be easy.
You can't seem to respond without making your posts inside my quotes. I don't want people to think I've said what you've posted inside those quotes.
And since I either color code or embolden my response, the reader won't make that mistake unless they're not too bright. Bottom line: YOU can't take criticism, let alone acknowledge that you're wrong on a point or two.
Well, if you're honest about being done with me, then I or the readers won't have to endure more of your insipid stubborness. But if your ego can't take criticism, then do continue to just keep proving my points from our exchanges. I'll just sit back and smile. Carry on.