AG Barr: “Very Unusual Situation to Have Opposition Research” – to Conduct Counter Intelligence

[Hutch Starskey]

When you ask for a FISA warrant to investigate (spy) on any American citizen, let alone a presidential nominee and/or his campaign, you gotta have solid evidence that has been verified. Yet the DOJ/FBI had NOTHING but the Steele Dossier and news reports that were based on that dossier, and that is not supposed to be the way our gov't agencies work. To this day, nothing substantial in that dossier has been verified, otherwise you can be sure the Mueller investigation would have said so in the report; for Christ sakes, they used Russian freakin' agents as sources! So, who really collaborated with the Russians? We now know it wasn't Trump or his campaign, but it's beginning to look like the DNC and the Clinton campaign might have, indirectly.

The investigation was ongoing before The dossier was even presented!

What are you saying, MA? The FBI started the investigation (spying) on the Trump campaign before they got a warrant to do so from the FISA court? That's what I was talking about, the FISA warrant that was obtained based on unverified data from Russian sources in a Dossier that was basically opposition research, i.e., a hit piece. Anybody want to tell us which part of the FISA warrant was verified BEFORE it went to the FISA Court? Anybody want to tell us what else the FBI/DOJ had in the way of verified evidence that was not directly or indirectly based on that Dossier? Uh-huh, right: nada, zip, zilch. And if there was something, don't you think we'd know about it by now?

So, do we want to have the FBI/DOJ spying on us without verified probable cause for political purposes? Or do we want it only if the subject of the investigation is a Republican?

The FBI opened a counterintelligence investigation focused on russian interference in our election in june of 16. Secondarily, the investigation was looking into whether or not any Americans were involved including members of the Trump campaign.

And according to Page, Clapper, and Morrell there was NEVER ANY EVIDENCE OF ANY SUCH CRIME....that's because there was none.

What crime?

 

[easyt65]

You don't know what they presented the court, dope. We do know however that the warrant, as well as three renewals were all approved. The court accepted what they presented and the warrant produced usable intelligence.

Once again, nice opinionated rant, but....


Don't you ever get tired of being wrong / of lying?


"With the release of the House Intelligence Committee Memo[1], it is manifestly clear that the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the FBI participated in a fraud on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) in order to surveil Carter Page, a U.S. citizen. The FBI and the DOJ deliberately and intentionally advanced unverified opposition research paid for by one political party (the Democratic National Committee) designed to harm the opposing party by creating a fictional Russian collusion story as reliable fact. All this took place in the midst of a U.S. presidential election.

Evidently, Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe testified before the Committee that but for reliance on the 35-page dossier, authored by Christopher Steele, the FISA warrant would neither have been sought nor obtained. After previously rejecting their initial request, The FISA judges relied on two sources as a basis for the eventual issuance of the warrant: the dossier authored by a foreign agent, Christopher Steele, and a Yahoo News report Mr. Steele gave to Yahoo News.

This behavior is a massive abuse of power and should outrage all Americans of both political parties."

FISA Memo Released and Fraud on the FISA Court Revealed | American Center for Law and Justice

 

[Hutch Starskey]

How was it "used against the president"?

It was kept hush hush by FBI during election and he wasnt even a target until his idiot ass started obstructing investigations.

He was a target 6 months before the election, moron. How do you know what they did with the intel they gathered? I'm sure it all went straight to Hillary. Trump never obstructed any investigation.

No he wasn't, you simply do not know what you are talking about once again. Even dossier does not directly implicate Trump.

Trump became a target of Obstruction investigation when he fired Comey.

Uhhhh . . . .Wrong! The evidence shows the FBI began investigating in March of 2016

The FBI began a counterintelligence investigation in June of 2016.

The FBI did not investigate obstruction at that time.

They were investigating Trump, and it began before then.

Link

 

[Dragonlady]

Mueller report provided, issues resolved, case closed. Make up something new and move along.

Mueller report provided 10 instances of possible Obstruction of Justice by Trump for Congress to consider holding the president accountable for.

So no, it's not resolved.

We know you want the finished game to be replayed so the score can be changed in your favor. Keep doing that in your make pretend world but Trump continues to be President and Mullers work continues to be completed.

What a lovely little lie you're selling. Trump and Barr have COMPLETELY misrepresented what the Mueller Report said and what it's conclusions are. That's why Barr sat on it for a month, so he could sell the American public on the lie that the report said "no collusion, no obstruction".

THIS is what Mueller said about CONSPIRACY:

What is said is that Trump was MORE THAN HAPPY to have Russian help to win the election. And while there most definitely was "collusion", there was no criminal conspiracy. That's the difference.

As for obstruction, Mueller laid out the case for Congress. If you think this is over, go back and read what happened to the Starr Report when Ken Starr delivered it to Congress. The Special Prosecutor's Report is the BEGINNING, not the end. Only Congress can clear or indict the President. Not the AG, not the Senate, only Congress.

This isn't over until CONGRESS says it's over./

 

[bripat9643]

Mueller report provided, issues resolved, case closed. Make up something new and move along.

Mueller report provided 10 instances of possible Obstruction of Justice by Trump for Congress to consider holding the president accountable for.

So no, it's not resolved.

We know you want the finished game to be replayed so the score can be changed in your favor. Keep doing that in your make pretend world but Trump continues to be President and Mullers work continues to be completed.

What a lovely little lie you're selling. Trump and Barr have COMPLETELY misrepresented what the Mueller Report said and what it's conclusions are. That's why Barr sat on it for a month, so he could sell the American public on the lie that the report said "no collusion, no obstruction".

THIS is what Mueller said about CONSPIRACY:

View attachment 261715

What is said is that Trump was MORE THAN HAPPY to have Russian help to win the election. And while there most definitely was "collusion", there was no criminal conspiracy. That's the difference.

As for obstruction, Mueller laid out the case for Congress. If you think this is over, go back and read what happened to the Starr Report when Ken Starr delivered it to Congress. The Special Prosecutor's Report is the BEGINNING, not the end. Only Congress can clear or indict the President. Not the AG, not the Senate, only Congress.

This isn't over until CONGRESS says it's over./

Do you realize that almost everything you post is nothing but an utter and complete lie?

 

[AntonToo]

Mueller report provided, issues resolved, case closed. Make up something new and move along.

Mueller report provided 10 instances of possible Obstruction of Justice by Trump for Congress to consider holding the president accountable for.

So no, it's not resolved.

We know you want the finished game to be replayed so the score can be changed in your favor. Keep doing that in your make pretend world but Trump continues to be President and Mullers work continues to be completed.

Which part of your post refutes anything I said?

 

[Dragonlady]

Everything you wanted to know and more about Hillary' server / e-mail set-up, use of multiple devices, etc...is pretty much found in this article....good read.

What the FBI Files Reveal About Hillary Clinton’s Email Server

I much prefer this one. Less bias, more facts:

Fact Check: Hillary Clinton, Those Emails And The Law

 

[easyt65]

You don't know what they presented the court, dope. We do know however that the warrant, as well as three renewals were all approved. The court accepted what they presented and the warrant produced usable intelligence.

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong / of lying?

"The email exchanges show the FBI was aware — before it secured the now-infamous warrant — that there were intelligence community concerns about the reliability of the main evidence used to support it: the Christopher Steele dossier."

NO SHIT - OHR TESTIFIED HE TOLD THE DOJ, NSA, CIA, & FBI THE MATERIAL WAS UNRELIABLE BEFORE THEY CHOSE TO USE IT ILLEGALLY....

"The exchanges also indicate FBI officials were aware that Steele, the former MI6 British intelligence operative then working as a confidential human source for the bureau, had contacts with news media reporters before the FISA warrant was secured."
-- FBI email chain may provide most damning evidence of FISA abuses yet


OHR ALSO TOLD THEM STEELE WAS BIASED, HATED TRUMP, AND WANTED TO GET THE DOSSIER INFORMATION RELEASED BEFORE ELECTION DAY.....

ANOTHER DOJ OFFICIAL REPORTED SHE NOTICED IMMEDIATELY STEELE WAS LYING DURING AN INTERVIEW AND FLAGGED HIM AS 'UNRELIABLE', SENDING THET INFORMATION ON TO THE NSA, CIA, AND FBI BEFORE THE DOSSIER INFO WAS USED ILLEGALLY.....


D@mn, you are one helluva liar / 'storyteller'......

 

[WEATHER53]

Mueller report provided, issues resolved, case closed. Make up something new and move along.

Mueller report provided 10 instances of possible Obstruction of Justice by Trump for Congress to consider holding the president accountable for.

So no, it's not resolved.

We know you want the finished game to be replayed so the score can be changed in your favor. Keep doing that in your make pretend world but Trump continues to be President and Mullers work continues to be completed.

What a lovely little lie you're selling. Trump and Barr have COMPLETELY misrepresented what the Mueller Report said and what it's conclusions are. That's why Barr sat on it for a month, so he could sell the American public on the lie that the report said "no collusion, no obstruction".

THIS is what Mueller said about CONSPIRACY:

View attachment 261715

What is said is that Trump was MORE THAN HAPPY to have Russian help to win the election. And while there most definitely was "collusion", there was no criminal conspiracy. That's the difference.

As for obstruction, Mueller laid out the case for Congress. If you think this is over, go back and read what happened to the Starr Report when Ken Starr delivered it to Congress. The Special Prosecutor's Report is the BEGINNING, not the end. Only Congress can clear or indict the President. Not the AG, not the Senate, only Congress.

This isn't over until CONGRESS says it's over./

We know you want some entity somewhere to bang the drum and continue or reopen the case. Congress does not have that Authority and no indication from them they can do it but keep dope hope alive. Mueller phase is completed, please move on to wailing about another issue where you been done wrong. Perpetual victim hood. Try winning instead of whining.

 

[AntonToo]

You are fucking nuts (comment for those that are not familiar with Easy's unhinged posting before, everyone else knows already)

Why the desperate frantic personal attack, snowflake. Oh, never mind - SOP. Thank you for responding to links and documented info with another wild-eyed personal attack and opinionated rant....

There was ALREADY a full review of the case under Trump's DOJ by Horowitz (Inspector General) in 2018. He found that the case was resolved apropriately and without bias. The only wrongdoing reported was Comey's public slamming of Hillary.

Report Criticizes Comey but Finds No Bias in F.B.I. Decision on Clinton

...the inspector general, Michael E. Horowitz, did not challenge the conclusion that Mrs. Clinton should not be prosecuted. That investigation loomed over most of the presidential campaign, and Mr. Horowitz and his investigators uncovered no proof that political opinions at the F.B.I. influenced its outcome.

“We found no evidence that the conclusions by department prosecutors were affected by bias or other improper considerations,” he wrote. “Rather, we concluded that they were based on the prosecutor’s assessment of facts, the law and past department practice.”

'No BIAS'....notice how it doesn't say 'NO CRIME'?!

Dummy, it implicitly said no crime because it found decision to not charge Hillary to be based on facts and law, not favor.

 

[easyt65]

Everything you wanted to know and more about Hillary' server / e-mail set-up, use of multiple devices, etc...is pretty much found in this article....good read.

What the FBI Files Reveal About Hillary Clinton’s Email Server

I much prefer this one. Less bias, more facts:

Fact Check: Hillary Clinton, Those Emails And The Law

Speaking of Ignorant Biased Propaganda Pushers.....

 

[AntonToo]

Nothing unusual about FBI using Steele's work as they have many times before. It was a trusted, reliable source.

The dossier was never verified! Comey fucked up!

It was never touted as " verified". It was raw intelligence. The kind used everyday in counterintel operations and investigations. Also known as " leads".

Dope.

You are another Dumb Ass cnn watching Tard....

You are not supposed to get a FISA WARRANT based on rumors....

You are supposed to have facts...……..

You Tards got caught trying to cheat.

You are used to getting away with it.....

This would have all been swept under the rug if the ugly bitch would have won....

TIC TOC TARDS.....

Warrants are granted for the purpose of gathering the facts, dope.

The three subsequent renewals show very clearly that not only was the warrant justified but produced results.
Each of the three renewals required proof that the previous warrant had garnered usable intel.

Rosenstein, ( Trump's own apointee),signed off on all of them.

The IG has already said the last three FISA warrants were illegal. The first was probably also illegal.

No he didn't, stop spreading bullshit.

 

[easyt65]

Dummy, it implicitly said no crime because it found decision to not charge Hillary to be based on facts and law, not favor.

And of course, once again, you avoid like the plague the testimony from former FBI Agent Page who she CLEARLY testified under oath - repeating it so nothing could be mis-interpreted...not even by dumbass partisan snowflakes like you - 'OBAMA'S DOJ TOLD THEM TO STAND DOWN ON PROSECUTING HILLARY, THAT THEY - OBAMA'S DOJ - WOULD NOT DO IT!'

Need that link again, snowflake, or do you think you can look back a page or two on your own and find it? ;p

 

[bripat9643]

The dossier was never verified! Comey fucked up!

It was never touted as " verified". It was raw intelligence. The kind used everyday in counterintel operations and investigations. Also known as " leads".

Dope.

You are another Dumb Ass cnn watching Tard....

You are not supposed to get a FISA WARRANT based on rumors....

You are supposed to have facts...……..

You Tards got caught trying to cheat.

You are used to getting away with it.....

This would have all been swept under the rug if the ugly bitch would have won....

TIC TOC TARDS.....

Warrants are granted for the purpose of gathering the facts, dope.

The three subsequent renewals show very clearly that not only was the warrant justified but produced results.
Each of the three renewals required proof that the previous warrant had garnered usable intel.

Rosenstein, ( Trump's own apointee),signed off on all of them.

The IG has already said the last three FISA warrants were illegal. The first was probably also illegal.

No he didn't, stop spreading bullshit.

Breaking: IG Learns FISAs Were Illegal, Agent Said “This Is What Happens When You Work For Trump”

The FBI is in deep water and when the final report comes out, it could show that all the FISA warrants, in addition to the last three, were ‘illegally obtained.’ ​

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The three subsequent renewals show very clearly that not only was the warrant justified but produced results.
Each of the three renewals required proof that the previous warrant had garnered usable intel.

Rosenstein, ( Trump's own apointee),signed off on all of them.

I love how you just make up your own facts.

The warrants and renewals did have to prove they were justified, except the entire reason for the FISA Court Abuse investigations by the US IG and US AG's investigations are because there is evidence...and even testimony...proving the FBI / Rosenstein both lied to and withheld information from the FISA Court.

Meanwhile you act like making such an accusation is 'blasphemous', that the FBI is beyond reproach and has never given anyone reason to believe they would do so...OR HAVE DONE SO BEFORE.

As FBI Director Mueller was hauled before a Secret FISA Court to explain his FBI's 75 incidents of FISA Court Abuses. (Isn't that 'special'...Comey's mentor who suddenly finds himself investigating incidents involving his protégé was 'called to the carpet' for FISA Court Abuses...and now it seems the tradition was passed on from one to the other....)

Continue your lying, denying, justifying, etc....for as long as you can. Yet another false snowflake narrative will die with the release of the US IG's report on the FISA Court Abuses Obama' s toadies perpetrated.

I've lied about nothing.
I'm stating known facts. You're in the Q-tard fantasy zone.

The point is that the renewals continued after the warrant was known and criticized publicly. Obviously the applications withstood scrutiny, were approved and were productive.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Nothing unusual about FBI using Steele's work as they have many times before. It was a trusted, reliable source.

The dossier was never verified! Comey fucked up!

It was never touted as " verified". It was raw intelligence. The kind used everyday in counterintel operations and investigations. Also known as " leads".

Dope.

You are another Dumb Ass cnn watching Tard....

You are not supposed to get a FISA WARRANT based on rumors....

You are supposed to have facts...……..

You Tards got caught trying to cheat.

You are used to getting away with it.....

This would have all been swept under the rug if the ugly bitch would have won....

TIC TOC TARDS.....

Warrants are granted for the purpose of gathering the facts, dope.

The three subsequent renewals show very clearly that not only was the warrant justified but produced results.
Each of the three renewals required proof that the previous warrant had garnered usable intel.

Rosenstein, ( Trump's own apointee),signed off on all of them.

The IG has already said the last three FISA warrants were illegal. The first was probably also illegal.

The IG has already said the last three FISA warrants were illegal. The first was probably also illegal.

The IG has issued no such report, dope.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You don't know what they presented the court, dope. We do know however that the warrant, as well as three renewals were all approved. The court accepted what they presented and the warrant produced usable intelligence.

Once again, nice opinionated rant, but....


Don't you ever get tired of being wrong / of lying?


"With the release of the House Intelligence Committee Memo[1], it is manifestly clear that the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the FBI participated in a fraud on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) in order to surveil Carter Page, a U.S. citizen. The FBI and the DOJ deliberately and intentionally advanced unverified opposition research paid for by one political party (the Democratic National Committee) designed to harm the opposing party by creating a fictional Russian collusion story as reliable fact. All this took place in the midst of a U.S. presidential election.

Evidently, Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe testified before the Committee that but for reliance on the 35-page dossier, authored by Christopher Steele, the FISA warrant would neither have been sought nor obtained. After previously rejecting their initial request, The FISA judges relied on two sources as a basis for the eventual issuance of the warrant: the dossier authored by a foreign agent, Christopher Steele, and a Yahoo News report Mr. Steele gave to Yahoo News.

This behavior is a massive abuse of power and should outrage all Americans of both political parties."

FISA Memo Released and Fraud on the FISA Court Revealed | American Center for Law and Justice

LOL...
Nice link. It still doesn't tell you what was presented to the court, dope.

You're the one lying and misrepresenting known facts.

 

[bripat9643]

The dossier was never verified! Comey fucked up!

It was never touted as " verified". It was raw intelligence. The kind used everyday in counterintel operations and investigations. Also known as " leads".

Dope.

You are another Dumb Ass cnn watching Tard....

You are not supposed to get a FISA WARRANT based on rumors....

You are supposed to have facts...……..

You Tards got caught trying to cheat.

You are used to getting away with it.....

This would have all been swept under the rug if the ugly bitch would have won....

TIC TOC TARDS.....

Warrants are granted for the purpose of gathering the facts, dope.

The three subsequent renewals show very clearly that not only was the warrant justified but produced results.
Each of the three renewals required proof that the previous warrant had garnered usable intel.

Rosenstein, ( Trump's own apointee),signed off on all of them.

The IG has already said the last three FISA warrants were illegal. The first was probably also illegal.

The IG has already said the last three FISA warrants were illegal. The first was probably also illegal.

The IG has issued no such report, dope.

The inspector general inquiry is expected to be completed in either late May or June, and diGenova, a former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, said Democrats on Capitol Hill are working overtime to investigate and discredit President Trump.


“They are doing that as a diversionary tactic away from the inevitable conclusions of the DOJ inspector general, Michael Horowitz, who, by the way, we have learned has concluded that the final three FISA extensions were illegally obtained,” diGenova said on Fox Business. “The only question now is whether or not the first FISA was illegally obtained.”​

 

[captkaos]

And you know what? He's right. So glad we now have a strong AG to get to the bottom of this. What a great interview this morning.


BOOM! AG Bill Barr on Steele Dossier: "Very Unusual Situation to Have Opposition Research" - to Conduct Counter Intelligence (VIDEO)

Nothing unusual about FBI using Steele's work as they have many times before. It was a trusted, reliable source.

That everybody said was unreliable before they decided to use it anyway! Because Hillary couldn't possibly lose to Donald Trump and all the Conspirators would be richly rewarded by Hillary once in office. All Govt phones are recorded at some level I would love to hear the conversations going on between the conspirators during the aftermath of the Hillary Loss. Probably went like this "OMFG we're all going to jail if this gets out"." Karma is a bitch" No! I didn't say Kamala but okay it fits

 

[Hutch Starskey]

It was never touted as " verified". It was raw intelligence. The kind used everyday in counterintel operations and investigations. Also known as " leads".

Dope.

You are another Dumb Ass cnn watching Tard....

You are not supposed to get a FISA WARRANT based on rumors....

You are supposed to have facts...……..

You Tards got caught trying to cheat.

You are used to getting away with it.....

This would have all been swept under the rug if the ugly bitch would have won....

TIC TOC TARDS.....

Warrants are granted for the purpose of gathering the facts, dope.

The three subsequent renewals show very clearly that not only was the warrant justified but produced results.
Each of the three renewals required proof that the previous warrant had garnered usable intel.

Rosenstein, ( Trump's own apointee),signed off on all of them.

The IG has already said the last three FISA warrants were illegal. The first was probably also illegal.

The IG has already said the last three FISA warrants were illegal. The first was probably also illegal.

The IG has issued no such report, dope.

The inspector general inquiry is expected to be completed in either late May or June, and diGenova, a former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, said Democrats on Capitol Hill are working overtime to investigate and discredit President Trump.


“They are doing that as a diversionary tactic away from the inevitable conclusions of the DOJ inspector general, Michael Horowitz, who, by the way, we have learned has concluded that the final three FISA extensions were illegally obtained,” diGenova said on Fox Business. “The only question now is whether or not the first FISA was illegally obtained.”​

That's not the IG's report either, dope.