Ahmed didn't build a clock

[Skylar]

As far as I can tell, they've lost it every way possible to do so. And while I can't see any other way that the idiots can lose this... if one comes up with a unique means to do so, someone come and find men will ya?

With the operative phrase being 'as far as I can tell'.

Yes.. I knew you'd figure out a way to lose again. Thanks for showing me that there's no point that you can't lose in virtually an infinite number of ways.

And I'd add that your defense of Muslims, denying their intrinsic relationship with IEDs...

ROFL! ABSOLUTELY ADORABLE!

Again, your perception is wildly skewed by your insanity. Your insane murder fantasies about gays, your belief that god talks to you, your insistence that any wrist watch is '80% of an IED', or that Ahmed 'earned' being targeted while doing nothing you've accused him off.

You're insane. Literally hearing voices batshit crazy. Making 'as far as I can tell' a meaningless standard. As you citing you means nothing.

c'mon----skylar ----it probably had wires hanging out of it

It had wires. Connecting the battery to the control board to the LED screen.

And? Again, no one thought it a bomb. So why was the kid arrested? What, was he gonna tell time to death?

 

[irosie91]

my son experienced a similar incident------it did not make the news-----
and even I did not blame it on his snow white complexion and jewish
name---------but now that you MENTION IT--------can we get a DO OVER???

He was arrested for bringing a home made clock to school?

Can you back that claim with evidence? Because I'm not willing to take your word for it.

no arrest. ----silly mix up is not an arrest-------it had nothing to do with "muslim" or with skin color------just nervous people

Nervous ... because it was a Young Muslim Male with an IED.

nervous because they did not know what it was and it looked like some sort
of ELECTRONIC DEVICE made at home

Then why was this kid arrested? I can wrap my head around the school confiscating his clock until they knew what it was. I'd be more sympathetic to their 'we thought it was a bomb' narrative if anyone had acted like it was a bomb.

No one did. The school wasn't evacuated. The bomb squad wasn't called in. The clock was left on a desk, then tossed into a trunk. Demonstrating the 'we thought it was a bomb' narrative absolute bullshit. They thought no such thing.

Making his arrest outrageous.

yes-----it happens a lot------it happened to my snow-white kid with the jewish
name. There is no record of the event-----nowhere------SHEEEEEESH

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

With the operative phrase being 'as far as I can tell'. Which doesn't amount to much as you're insane.

Meanwhile, Ahmed will be visiting the white house, likely have his highschool and the local police department fund his education and will get to go to spacecamp for free.

Its good that something worthwhile can come out of the pointless anti-Muslim bigotry that motivates your ilk.

my son experienced a similar incident------it did not make the news-----
and even I did not blame it on his snow white complexion and jewish
name---------but now that you MENTION IT--------can we get a DO OVER???

He was arrested for bringing a home made clock to school?

Can you back that claim with evidence? Because I'm not willing to take your word for it.

no arrest. ----silly mix up is not an arrest-------it had nothing to do with "muslim" or with skin color------just nervous people

Nervous ... because it was a Young Muslim Male with an IED.

Save....there was no IED. There was a clock.

It was a clock, which is a timer, a switch and initiator... set into a container with sufficient space for explosives. Which is an IED, minus the explosives.

Add that to a combat theater, and if it was being carried by a young Muslim Male and set those elements in Iraq or Afghanistan, those elements would be more than sufficient justification, to take the shot... .

 

[MaryL]

Religious beliefs[edit]
McVeigh was raised Roman Catholic.[90] During his childhood, he and his father attended Mass regularly.[91] McVeigh was confirmed at the Good Shepherd Church in Pendleton, New York, in 1985.[92] In a 1996 interview, McVeigh professed belief in "a God", although he said he had "sort of lost touch with" Catholicism and "I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs."[90] In McVeigh's biographyAmerican Terrorist, released in 2002, he stated that he did not believe in a hell and that science is his religion.[93][94] In June 2001, a day before the execution, McVeigh wrote a letter to the Buffalo News identifying himself as agnostic.[95] Before his execution, McVeigh took the Catholic sacrament of the Anointing of the Sick.[96][97][98][99][100]
Timothy McVeigh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

so by your own link McVeigh wasn't a practicing Christian.

ag·nos·tic
aɡˈnästik/
noun

1. 1.
   a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.

That wasn't McVeigh. This was:

McVeigh: I was raised Catholic. I was confirmed Catholic (received the sacrament of confirmation). Through my military years, I sort of lost touch with the religion. I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs.

- See more at: An Accurate Look at Timothy McVeigh's Beliefs

But again, what do you care? Your ilk have already said that the brown Muslim kid deserved to be targeted because he was a Muslim. There isn't even an attempt to hide the bullshit anymore.

Your ilk are proud of their anti-Muslim bigotry.

Understand Reader... the idiot is arguing so that she can add to the other white person they've offered up as an example of those who've used IEDs, versus MUSLIMS.

Understand that your 'reader' is just you talking to yourself.

And Ahmed made no IED. Ending your entire argument. You have no evidence that Ahmed did anything you've described. No bombings, no killings, no IEDs, nothing. And yet you insist that Ahmed 'earned' being targeted for something he never did.

You're insane.

the principle of the school did not know what he made-------the word
ELECTRONIC frightened him. School principles are the most
NOIVICE people in the world. Once the cops realized what it was---
the whole incident should have been squelched.------the boy's finger-prints
are not going anywhere-------it was a silly and meaningless affair that should
not have made the news-------nothing to do with skin color

Unfortunately we live in a world were people use electrical devices to trigger bombs. Clocks or those other mysterious cell phone devices, and it doesn't take a degree in electrical engineering to figure this stuff out anymore. And being that this kid was a muslim wasn't a plus, either. Please.

 

[Political Junky]

As far as I can tell, they've lost it every way possible to do so. And while I can't see any other way that the idiots can lose this... if one comes up with a unique means to do so, someone come and find men will ya?

With the operative phrase being 'as far as I can tell'.

Yes.. I knew you'd figure out a way to lose again. Thanks for showing me that there's no point that you can't lose in virtually an infinite number of ways.

And I'd add that your defense of Muslims, denying their intrinsic relationship with IEDs...

ROFL! ABSOLUTELY ADORABLE!

Again, your perception is wildly skewed by your insanity. Your insane murder fantasies about gays, your belief that god talks to you, your insistence that any wrist watch is '80% of an IED', or that Ahmed 'earned' being targeted while doing nothing you've accused him off.

You're insane. Literally hearing voices batshit crazy. Making 'as far as I can tell' a meaningless standard. As you citing you means nothing.

Bingo

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

It had wires. Connecting the battery to the control board to the LED screen.

And? Again, no one thought it a bomb. So why was the kid arrested? What, was he gonna tell time to death?

Hmm... A power supply, switch, initiator in a case sufficient to load explosives... .

HEY! That's an IED, minus the explosives... If you added a Young Muslim Male to that... then you'd have a qualified threat.

Which all that threat needs to be is set into a combat zone and the bearer of that combo would be a qualified target for summary execution.

And leave it to the Ideological Left to dismiss it, when that same combo is IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL, here in the UNITED STATES.

Reader, you need to understand that most of the Leftists on this site are Mouthy British socialists (pardon the redundancy) posing as US Citizens.

 

[Skylar]

Understand that your 'reader' is just you talking to yourself.

And Ahmed made no IED. Ending your entire argument. You have no evidence that Ahmed did anything you've described. No bombings, no killings, no IEDs, nothing. And yet you insist that Ahmed 'earned' being targeted for something he never did.

You're insane.

the principle of the school did not know what he made-------the word
ELECTRONIC frightened him. School principles are the most
NOIVICE people in the world. Once the cops realized what it was---
the whole incident should have been squelched.------the boy's finger-prints
are not going anywhere-------it was a silly and meaningless affair that should
not have made the news-------nothing to do with skin color

The school authorities clearly didn't think it was a bomb, else they would have evacuated the school. The police didn't think it was a bomb, else they would have called a bomb squad and (say it with me) evacuated the school.

So why was this kid arrested? Because they didn't know what he'd built? How is their ignorance his crime? Especially when NO ONE thought this was a threat of any kind?

he was not charged with a crime-----he does not have an "arrest" on his record.
-----sheeeeesh how long have you been SUCH A WUSS. His finger prints are
in the circular file

He was arrested. Either that or kidnapped. Pick one.

This after being interogated by police without his parents present. And with no one thinking it was a bomb. If they had, they would have evacuated the school. They didn't evacuate the room they were in.

Being arrested is not being charged with a crime.

Being arrested requires reasonable suspicion of a crime. There was none. The kid never claimed it was a bomb. Neither the school nor the police thought it was a bomb. And his being released WITHOUT charges only goes to demonstrate what shit justification the police used to arrest him.

As what crime was he 'reasonably suspected' of committing? Telling the time?

The school I'll give a mulligan in confiscating the clock until they knew what it was. But calling the police? The kid being arrested? Pure bullshit. If they thought it was a bomb enough to call police, they would have evacuated the school.

They didn't come close. They knew it wasn't a bomb when they called the police. And the police knew it wasn't a bomb when they arrested him. There was no threat from anyone to anyone. Ahmed accurately told them it was a clock.

There was reasonable suspicion for absolutely nothing.

But... in fairness to you, as an imbecile, there is NO WAY that you could have known that.

And predictably your ilk descend into pointless personal insult when they can't reason their way out of a paper bag.

Let me dumb it down for you: If they thought it was a bomb they would have evacuated the school. If they didn't think it was a bomb, they had no reason to arrest him.

Get it?

 

[irosie91]

so by your own link McVeigh wasn't a practicing Christian.

ag·nos·tic
aɡˈnästik/
noun

1. 1.
   a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.

That wasn't McVeigh. This was:

McVeigh: I was raised Catholic. I was confirmed Catholic (received the sacrament of confirmation). Through my military years, I sort of lost touch with the religion. I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs.

- See more at: An Accurate Look at Timothy McVeigh's Beliefs

But again, what do you care? Your ilk have already said that the brown Muslim kid deserved to be targeted because he was a Muslim. There isn't even an attempt to hide the bullshit anymore.

Your ilk are proud of their anti-Muslim bigotry.

Understand Reader... the idiot is arguing so that she can add to the other white person they've offered up as an example of those who've used IEDs, versus MUSLIMS.

Understand that your 'reader' is just you talking to yourself.

And Ahmed made no IED. Ending your entire argument. You have no evidence that Ahmed did anything you've described. No bombings, no killings, no IEDs, nothing. And yet you insist that Ahmed 'earned' being targeted for something he never did.

You're insane.

the principle of the school did not know what he made-------the word
ELECTRONIC frightened him. School principles are the most
NOIVICE people in the world. Once the cops realized what it was---
the whole incident should have been squelched.------the boy's finger-prints
are not going anywhere-------it was a silly and meaningless affair that should
not have made the news-------nothing to do with skin color

Unfortunately we live in a world were people use electrical devices to trigger bombs. Clocks or those other mysterious cell phone devices, and it doesn't take a degree in electrical engineering to figure this stuff out anymore. And being that this kid was a muslim wasn't a plus, either. Please.

yes----someone saw a homemade device with wires hanging out of it
and called the cops------I do not believe that 'muslim' was an issue

 

[Skylar]

It had wires. Connecting the battery to the control board to the LED screen.

And? Again, no one thought it a bomb. So why was the kid arrested? What, was he gonna tell time to death?

Hmm... A power supply, switch, initiator in a case sufficient to load explosives... .

By the standards you're using, any wrist watch or cell phone is 80% of IED. Back in reality the kid didn't build an IED.

You're simply insane.

 

[irosie91]

the principle of the school did not know what he made-------the word
ELECTRONIC frightened him. School principles are the most
NOIVICE people in the world. Once the cops realized what it was---
the whole incident should have been squelched.------the boy's finger-prints
are not going anywhere-------it was a silly and meaningless affair that should
not have made the news-------nothing to do with skin color

The school authorities clearly didn't think it was a bomb, else they would have evacuated the school. The police didn't think it was a bomb, else they would have called a bomb squad and (say it with me) evacuated the school.

So why was this kid arrested? Because they didn't know what he'd built? How is their ignorance his crime? Especially when NO ONE thought this was a threat of any kind?

he was not charged with a crime-----he does not have an "arrest" on his record.
-----sheeeeesh how long have you been SUCH A WUSS. His finger prints are
in the circular file

He was arrested. Either that or kidnapped. Pick one.

This after being interogated by police without his parents present. And with no one thinking it was a bomb. If they had, they would have evacuated the school. They didn't evacuate the room they were in.

Being arrested is not being charged with a crime.

Being arrested requires reasonable suspicion of a crime. There was none. The kid never claimed it was a bomb. Neither the school nor the police thought it was a bomb. And his being released WITHOUT charges only goes to demonstrate what shit justification the police used to arrest him.

As what crime was he 'reasonably suspected' of committing? Telling the time?

The school I'll give a mulligan in confiscating the clock until they knew what it was. But calling the police? The kid being arrested? Pure bullshit. If they thought it was a bomb enough to call police, they would have evacuated the school.

They didn't come close. They knew it wasn't a bomb when they called the police. And the police knew it wasn't a bomb when they arrested him. There was no threat from anyone to anyone. Ahmed accurately told them it was a clock.

There was reasonable suspicion for absolutely nothing.

But... in fairness to you, as an imbecile, there is NO WAY that you could have known that.

And predictably your ilk descend into pointless personal insult when they can't reason their way out of a paper bag.

Let me dumb it down for you: If they thought it was a bomb they would have evacuated the school. If they didn't think it was a bomb, they had no reason to arrest him.

Get it?

he was not arrested----he was detained-------OK?

 

[Skylar]

That wasn't McVeigh. This was:

But again, what do you care? Your ilk have already said that the brown Muslim kid deserved to be targeted because he was a Muslim. There isn't even an attempt to hide the bullshit anymore.

Your ilk are proud of their anti-Muslim bigotry.

Understand Reader... the idiot is arguing so that she can add to the other white person they've offered up as an example of those who've used IEDs, versus MUSLIMS.

Understand that your 'reader' is just you talking to yourself.

And Ahmed made no IED. Ending your entire argument. You have no evidence that Ahmed did anything you've described. No bombings, no killings, no IEDs, nothing. And yet you insist that Ahmed 'earned' being targeted for something he never did.

You're insane.

the principle of the school did not know what he made-------the word
ELECTRONIC frightened him. School principles are the most
NOIVICE people in the world. Once the cops realized what it was---
the whole incident should have been squelched.------the boy's finger-prints
are not going anywhere-------it was a silly and meaningless affair that should
not have made the news-------nothing to do with skin color

Unfortunately we live in a world were people use electrical devices to trigger bombs. Clocks or those other mysterious cell phone devices, and it doesn't take a degree in electrical engineering to figure this stuff out anymore. And being that this kid was a muslim wasn't a plus, either. Please.

yes----someone saw a homemade device with wires hanging out of it
and called the cops------I do not believe that 'muslim' was an issue

If they thought it was a bomb....why didn't they evacuate the school?

You can't have it both ways. You can't have reasonable suspicion of him buidling a bomb.....without evacuating the school. And if no one thought it was a bomb, you can't have reasonable suspicion of a 'hoax' bomb. And no one believed it was a bomb. And the kid never claimed it was one. Nor threatened....anyone.

You're fucked. As the threshold to arrest him is the same threshold to evacuate the school. If they didn't do the latter, they clearly didn't have reasonable suspicion of the former.

And they didn't evacuate a thing.

Your admission that they released him without charges only goes to show the absolute shit they based their arrest on. The police had nothing and they knew they had nothing. Making their arrest ridiculous.

 

[Skylar]

The school authorities clearly didn't think it was a bomb, else they would have evacuated the school. The police didn't think it was a bomb, else they would have called a bomb squad and (say it with me) evacuated the school.

So why was this kid arrested? Because they didn't know what he'd built? How is their ignorance his crime? Especially when NO ONE thought this was a threat of any kind?

he was not charged with a crime-----he does not have an "arrest" on his record.
-----sheeeeesh how long have you been SUCH A WUSS. His finger prints are
in the circular file

He was arrested. Either that or kidnapped. Pick one.

This after being interogated by police without his parents present. And with no one thinking it was a bomb. If they had, they would have evacuated the school. They didn't evacuate the room they were in.

Being arrested is not being charged with a crime.

Being arrested requires reasonable suspicion of a crime. There was none. The kid never claimed it was a bomb. Neither the school nor the police thought it was a bomb. And his being released WITHOUT charges only goes to demonstrate what shit justification the police used to arrest him.

As what crime was he 'reasonably suspected' of committing? Telling the time?

The school I'll give a mulligan in confiscating the clock until they knew what it was. But calling the police? The kid being arrested? Pure bullshit. If they thought it was a bomb enough to call police, they would have evacuated the school.

They didn't come close. They knew it wasn't a bomb when they called the police. And the police knew it wasn't a bomb when they arrested him. There was no threat from anyone to anyone. Ahmed accurately told them it was a clock.

There was reasonable suspicion for absolutely nothing.

But... in fairness to you, as an imbecile, there is NO WAY that you could have known that.

And predictably your ilk descend into pointless personal insult when they can't reason their way out of a paper bag.

Let me dumb it down for you: If they thought it was a bomb they would have evacuated the school. If they didn't think it was a bomb, they had no reason to arrest him.

Get it?

he was not arrested----he was detained-------OK?

He was taken out in hand cuffs. He was arrested. Or kidnapped. Pick one.

If he can't leave, its an arrest. And handcuffs demonstrate he couldn't leave.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Some random guy on the internet said he was an engineer and you believed him?

Actually, back before for woz and jobs and big blue, we had had primitive electronics and realize just how hard building a clock IS. Heathkits, anyone remember them? Predates a lot of things.

Yep....I remember all the different electronic kits out there.

I remember pilfering PNPs or NPNs and capacitors and resistors from trashed electronics just to build my own radio or amplifier...I even tried to build a clock, failed. If this kid could pull that same thing with out just using pre existing technology, kudos for him.

Kid had the internet...

 

[JimH52]

You are totally missing the point. Whether he made a clock or not, is not the point. He was arrested on false premises. You thread is pointless.

 

[Skylar]

my son experienced a similar incident------it did not make the news-----
and even I did not blame it on his snow white complexion and jewish
name---------but now that you MENTION IT--------can we get a DO OVER???

He was arrested for bringing a home made clock to school?

Can you back that claim with evidence? Because I'm not willing to take your word for it.

no arrest. ----silly mix up is not an arrest-------it had nothing to do with "muslim" or with skin color------just nervous people

Nervous ... because it was a Young Muslim Male with an IED.

Save....there was no IED. There was a clock.

It was a clock, which is a timer, a switch and initiator... set into a container with sufficient space for explosives. Which is an IED, minus the explosives.

Again, it wasn't an IED. There was no detonator. There was no explosive. There was a clock.

Your definition of an 'IED minus the explosives' would include any cell phone, any wrist watch, any bluetooth anything.

You're insane.

 

[irosie91]

he was not charged with a crime-----he does not have an "arrest" on his record.
-----sheeeeesh how long have you been SUCH A WUSS. His finger prints are
in the circular file

He was arrested. Either that or kidnapped. Pick one.

This after being interogated by police without his parents present. And with no one thinking it was a bomb. If they had, they would have evacuated the school. They didn't evacuate the room they were in.

Being arrested is not being charged with a crime.

Being arrested requires reasonable suspicion of a crime. There was none. The kid never claimed it was a bomb. Neither the school nor the police thought it was a bomb. And his being released WITHOUT charges only goes to demonstrate what shit justification the police used to arrest him.

As what crime was he 'reasonably suspected' of committing? Telling the time?

The school I'll give a mulligan in confiscating the clock until they knew what it was. But calling the police? The kid being arrested? Pure bullshit. If they thought it was a bomb enough to call police, they would have evacuated the school.

They didn't come close. They knew it wasn't a bomb when they called the police. And the police knew it wasn't a bomb when they arrested him. There was no threat from anyone to anyone. Ahmed accurately told them it was a clock.

There was reasonable suspicion for absolutely nothing.

But... in fairness to you, as an imbecile, there is NO WAY that you could have known that.

And predictably your ilk descend into pointless personal insult when they can't reason their way out of a paper bag.

Let me dumb it down for you: If they thought it was a bomb they would have evacuated the school. If they didn't think it was a bomb, they had no reason to arrest him.

Get it?

he was not arrested----he was detained-------OK?

He was taken out in hand cuffs. He was arrested. Or kidnapped. Pick one.

If he can't leave, its an arrest. And handcuffs demonstrate he couldn't leave.

its all over--------your concept that anyone in handcuffs is "ARRESTED" is actually not true---------some people are handcuffed just being EJECTED from the casino
-----I can tell you stories--------really? the cuffed him? that was silly

 

[irosie91]

You are totally missing the point. Whether he made a clock or not, is not the point. He was arrested on false premises. You thread is pointless.

yes------it was a MISTAKE

 

[Skylar]

He was arrested. Either that or kidnapped. Pick one.

This after being interogated by police without his parents present. And with no one thinking it was a bomb. If they had, they would have evacuated the school. They didn't evacuate the room they were in.

Being arrested is not being charged with a crime.

Being arrested requires reasonable suspicion of a crime. There was none. The kid never claimed it was a bomb. Neither the school nor the police thought it was a bomb. And his being released WITHOUT charges only goes to demonstrate what shit justification the police used to arrest him.

As what crime was he 'reasonably suspected' of committing? Telling the time?

The school I'll give a mulligan in confiscating the clock until they knew what it was. But calling the police? The kid being arrested? Pure bullshit. If they thought it was a bomb enough to call police, they would have evacuated the school.

They didn't come close. They knew it wasn't a bomb when they called the police. And the police knew it wasn't a bomb when they arrested him. There was no threat from anyone to anyone. Ahmed accurately told them it was a clock.

There was reasonable suspicion for absolutely nothing.

But... in fairness to you, as an imbecile, there is NO WAY that you could have known that.

And predictably your ilk descend into pointless personal insult when they can't reason their way out of a paper bag.

Let me dumb it down for you: If they thought it was a bomb they would have evacuated the school. If they didn't think it was a bomb, they had no reason to arrest him.

Get it?

he was not arrested----he was detained-------OK?

He was taken out in hand cuffs. He was arrested. Or kidnapped. Pick one.

If he can't leave, its an arrest. And handcuffs demonstrate he couldn't leave.

its all over--------your concept that anyone in handcuffs is "ARRESTED" is actually not true---------some people are handcuffed just being EJECTED from the casino
-----I can tell you stories--------really? the cuffed him? that was silly

The kid wasn't taken 'out of the casino'. He was taken to a juvenile youth facility and finger printed.

He was arrested. If he couldn't leave, its an arrest. And the police took his ass into custody. AKA an arrest. You can spin it anyway you want. But the moment those hand cuffs went on, he was arrested.

With the finger printing only going to further erode your nonsense narrative. There was reasonable suspicion of jack shit. Else the school would have been evacuated.

 

[Vigilante]

 

[Skylar]

Oh, and there was no battery. It plugged into the wall.