Amazing how ignorant people are of Trump's taxes, write-offs AND INCOME!!!

[Iceweasel]

Read about Trump's sordid history of business failures here:

Donald Trump's business failures: a comprehensive guide

Attn Trumptards...you are not allowed to read that link. For your own good.

It's libtard porn. Don't bother.

 

[80zephyr]

Not bad for a broke guy that only has failures under his belt. But leftist won't care about any tax facts, who wrote the laws or why. They are hypnotized and follow their master's demand.

Only Trump would tell the world that he is "smart" for not paying taxes. What does that tell us about the rest of us who do pay our taxes? Are we stupid???

He had to lose money to avoid paying taxes. Apparently in some rightwing magic kingdom, losing millions is how you demonstrate how smart you are.

You do not have to lose money to avoid paying taxes.

Mark

 

[Iceweasel]

Did he break any tax laws? He gets audited every year. If he was cheating, the Obama IRS would have already made that public.

Your issue is not with Trump, its with the tax code that allows the very rich to avoid taxes on some income. Now, who wrote the tax code? Do you know? Congress, and congress has been controlled by democrats for most of the last 80 years------------------------------------------------------sooooo, the tax code that you so hate was written by the party that you so love. Said another way, you are an idiot.

you bet my issue is with the tax code - and trump has promised to make it even more lopsided in favor of mega-million real estate moguls.

When did he say that? Oh that's right, you're a lefty, you can't tell the truth.

You're honestly saying that you believe trump's tax proposals do not largely benefit the rich?

So you admit you lied and he didn't say he was making the tax code more lopsided, that was your conclusion, not his words.

no, i don't. and that's not my conclusion, it's cnbc's.

You have no idea how much a working family would benefit. It might mean more expansion for the wealthy tycoon, providing JOBS and it might mean FOOD on the table or a new car for the working stiffs. You are not the sole arbitrator of what's more important to whom.

average middle class benefit would be about $500.

You said the words and now want to blame someone else? $500 in a better economy? Bullshit.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Read about Trump's sordid history of business failures here:

Donald Trump's business failures: a comprehensive guide

Attn Trumptards...you are not allowed to read that link. For your own good.

It's libtard porn. Don't bother.

lol, what a childish response.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Not bad for a broke guy that only has failures under his belt. But leftist won't care about any tax facts, who wrote the laws or why. They are hypnotized and follow their master's demand.

Only Trump would tell the world that he is "smart" for not paying taxes. What does that tell us about the rest of us who do pay our taxes? Are we stupid???

He had to lose money to avoid paying taxes. Apparently in some rightwing magic kingdom, losing millions is how you demonstrate how smart you are.

You do not have to lose money to avoid paying taxes.

Mark

It's a fact that he lost money. Pay attention.

 

[Iceweasel]

Bottom line, guilty until proven innocent. The fact that you hate him so much makes him the best pick possible.

he could clear all these questions up just by releasing his tax returns as every other candidate has for 4 decades

Every candidate was under audit? You are a stupid liar.

being under audit has no bearing on whether or not he can release his returns. and nixon was under audit.

further, releasing his returns does not change them - so what impact could the release have on the audit?

Nobody claimed he couldn't. Leftists simply repeat the lie to try to smear him. If you have to ask what possible impact it could have proves you don't know what you're talking about.

you can't answer the question, can you?

what possible impact could releasing the returns have on trump's audit?

It's been answered many times. Only an idiot wouldn't understand how a complicated tax return can be interpreted in various ways and it's obvious what the hateful left would do. You may not like the answers but pretending they don't exist because they don't match your opinions makes you a fool.

 

[healthmyths]

Trump said not paying income taxes made him smart.

Running businesses that are so unprofitable they don't generate any taxable income is 'smart'?

It is if you are drawing a handsome salary from said corporation. But all this is based on assumptions by dishonest people with an ax to grind.

Trump's real estate ventures lost tens of millions of dollars.

Successful businessmen MAKE money. They don't lose it.

Again... you didn't read evidently close enough... a symptom of idiots!!!

Donald Trump’s latest personal financial disclosure, made public on Wednesday morning, revealed surprising increases in revenue on some of his properties. The Office of Government Ethics document, filed with the Federal Elections Committee, followed an announcement from Trump on Tuesday saying his new report would show he raked in $557 million of income since 2015. The disclosure, submitted annually by presidential candidates, covers a period of more than 12 months – from the first day of the preceding year, to the time the candidate files (January 2015 to May 2016, in this case).
Donald Trump Reports 50% Increase In Income, Staggering Uptick In Revenues From Select Properties

How about expenses?

Only Trump would tell the world that he is "smart" for not paying taxes. What does that tell us about the rest of us who do pay our taxes? Are we stupid???

Hey you had NO problem with Obama hiring the following person who called YOU STUPID!!!
Like the architect for Obamacare,Massachusetts Institute of Technology Professor Jonathan Gruber ...suggested that many lawmakers and voters didn't know what was in the law or how its financing worked, and that this helped it win approval.
"Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” Gruber said.
"And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass."
Gruber made the comment while discussing how the law was "written in a tortured way" to avoid a bad score from the Congressional Budget Office. He suggested that voters would have rejected ObamaCare if the penalties for going without health insurance were interpreted as taxes, either by budget analysts or the public.
While analysts expect the market to stabilize once premiums rise and more young, healthy people sign up, some observers have not ruled out the possibility of a collapse of the market, known in insurance parlance as a “death spiral.”
ObamaCare architect: 'Stupidity' of voters helped bill pass

I thought we were discussing Trump not paying taxes? Why won't he disclose his tax returns? I would like an answer to that

He has said and we ALL agree... As soon as Hillary shows her 30,000 “private” emails.

All of a sudden you are concerned about emails? You didn't seem to care about lost emails when the Bush administration lost millions of them. Of course it wouldn't be about politics would it?
I am sure you never uttered a peep when dozens of Americans were killed at foreign embassies during the Bush years, but when 4 people died when a democrat was President its major news- right hypocrite

Yeah.....and I heard Bush was accused of raping a zillion women tooooooooo!!!

Set the record straight with FACTS... Iceweazel REPORTED as 100% true that " Bush administration lost millions of emails".

OLD OLD NEWS as the below article from 2009!!!

Computer technicians have found 22 million missing White House e-mails from the administration of President George W. Bush and the Obama administration is searching for dozens more days' worth of potentially lost e-mail from the Bush years, according to two groups that filed suit over the failure by the Bush White House to install an electronic record keeping system.

The two private groups — Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washingtonand the National Security Archive — said Monday they were settling the lawsuits they filed against the Executive Office of the President in 2007.

It will be years before the public sees any of the recovered e-mails because they will now go through the National Archives' process for releasing presidential and agency records. Presidential records of the Bush administration won't be available until 2014 at the earliest.
Found! 22 million e-mails that went missing during the Bush administration

 

[Iceweasel]

Read about Trump's sordid history of business failures here:

Donald Trump's business failures: a comprehensive guide

Attn Trumptards...you are not allowed to read that link. For your own good.

It's libtard porn. Don't bother.

lol, what a childish response.

It's an accurate response. Liberals LOVE to hate. Hating the latest leading Republican figure is better than sex for them.

 

[Skull Pilot]

This is too funny. The same people who are now defending Trump possibly paying NO federal income tax for 20

years are those who endlessly rant about how even the poor should pay some amount of taxes,

for that 'skin in the game' thing? Eh?

The poor should have 'skin in the game', while the billionaire Trump should get off scot free...

And yet you don't think there should be a flat income tax but you whine about people using all the deductions and loopholes a flat tax would eliminate

Your flat tax ideas raise taxes on the poorer and lower taxes on the richer.

No it makes everyone pay the same share of their income therefore it is absolutely fair

 

[Esmeralda]

Amazing how ignorant people are of Trump's taxes, write-offs AND INCOME!!!

What's amazing is that you people want to put someone in the White House who doesn't pay taxes. Who lives like royalty and doesn't pay any taxes while we all have to. You folks irrationally hate democrats so much you want to put this worthless piece of shit in the white house--even though he pisses all over you, all over this country, all over democratic values. You are sick.

 

[leftwinger]

The family gave $1,042,000 to the Clinton Family Foundation.
Which turned around and gave William J. Clinton foundation $1,865,000

thats' a quick way to save about $400K in FED income tax....in one pocket, move to other pocket. Slick Willy and the gals........yee-haw ride em' long as you can.

 

[Esmeralda]

The MSM and idiots galore are having an organism! Trump had according this article:

The Times, which hired tax experts to analyze the records, determined that “tax rules that are especially advantageous to wealthy filers would have allowed Mr. Trump to use his $916 million loss to cancel out an equivalent amount of taxable income over an 18-year period” -- more than $50 million a year.

Bombshell report on Trump taxes sends GOP nominee reeling

Now think just for a moment. Trump had according to the above "experts" then $50 million a year in
Taxable income to not pay taxes on! OH MY GOODNESS!!!

hmmm....
Let's see.. Assume Trump had businesses with total assets of $2 billion for those last 18 years.
And if Trump earned the average annual returns in long-term real estate investing vary by the area of concentration in the sector. Average 20-year returns in the commercial real estate slightly outperform the S&P 500 Index, running at around 9.5%.

Investopedia What average annual return is typical for a long term investment in the real estate sector?

HMMMMM...
Average real estate holdings of $2 billion over 18 years at 9.5% equals $190 million a year!
$190 million in ROI (for you dummies... Return on Investment) with operating expenses of 50%
leaves $95 million taxable income LESS the notorious $50 million TAX LOSS carry forward LEAVES
$45 million TAXABLE INCOME you idiots!


THAT IS IF HE COULD EVEN WRITE OFF $50 MILLION A YEAR IN LOSSES!

Why doesn't Trump release his tax returns and straighten this all out

What we do know......Trump the great businessman lost a billion dollars in just one year

He is now a serial moocher who refuses to pay taxes

Freeloader Donny

Why doesn't he release his returns?
Two reasons.

1. Because by-law he doesn't have to and his lawyers recommend that he doesn't.
2. If he releases them, it just gives the media more stuff to lie about.

God, you're funny.

 

[Iceweasel]

Amazing how ignorant people are of Trump's taxes, write-offs AND INCOME!!!

What's amazing is that you people want to put someone in the White House who doesn't pay taxes. Who lives like royalty and doesn't pay any taxes while we all have to. You folks irrationally hate democrats so much you want to put this worthless piece of shit in the white house--even though he pisses all over you, all over this country, all over democratic values. You are sick.

How do you know he doesn't pay any taxes? You can't see the return so he's guilty?

 

[Onyx]

He'a a crook despite there being no evidence that he's a crook?

Are you serious?

The cronyism was self admitted.

Refusing to pay small businesses was self admitted.

The tax evasion was self admitted.

The patent trolling is on record.

His abuse of federal lawsuits to take out competition and silence critics is on record (3500 lawsuits).

His hundreds if not thousands of lies are on record.

His hiring of illegal immigrants has mass testimony.

Him screwing over his own investors has mass testimony.

Him extorting working class individuals out of their property in Scotland is self admitted, on record, and verified by mass testimony.

Here are the things that are up for debate, and they have strong evidence too: Using intimidation and sabotage to scare clients out of their residency, denying housing to people of color, numerous associations with the mafia, and a direct hand in the drug trade.

Oh, and it doesn't help that he violates impropriety in just about everything he is supporting.

How can anyone who claims to be a capitalist defend Clinton?

You need to learn the distinction between attacking one person and defending another.

Turning that around though -

How can anyone that values honesty and respect in business support Donald?

How can anyone that values capitalism support someone who filed for six bankrupties and lobbied the federal government to subsidize his business?

Wake up or get back in the toolbox.

 

[Iceweasel]

He'a a crook despite there being no evidence that he's a crook?

Are you serious?

The cronyism was self admitted.

Refusing to pay small businesses was self admitted.

The tax evasion was self admitted.

The patent trolling is on record.

His abuse of federal lawsuits to take out competition and silence critics is on record (3500 lawsuits).

His hundreds if not thousands of lies are on record.

His hiring of illegal immigrants has mass testimony.

Him screwing over his own investors has mass testimony.

Here are the things that are up for debate, and they have strong evidence too: Using intimidation and sabotage to scare clients out of their residency, denying housing to people of color, numerous associations with the mafia, and a direct hand in the drug trade.

Oh, and it doesn't help that he violates impropriety in just about everything he is supporting.

How can anyone who claims to be a capitalist defend Clinton?

You need to learn the distinction between attacking one person and defending another.

Turning that around though -

How can anyone that values honesty and respect in business support Donald?

How can anyone that values capitalism support someone who filed for six bankrupties and lobbied the federal government to subsidize his business?

Wake up or get back in the toolbox.

No sources = unserious post.

 

[bripat9643]

He'a a crook despite there being no evidence that he's a crook?

Are you serious?

The cronyism was self admitted.

Refusing to pay small businesses was self admitted.

The tax evasion was self admitted.

The patent trolling is on record.

His abuse of federal lawsuits to take out competition and silence critics is on record (3500 lawsuits).

His hundreds if not thousands of lies are on record.

His hiring of illegal immigrants has mass testimony.

Him screwing over his own investors has mass testimony.

Here are the things that are up for debate, and they have strong evidence too: Using intimidation and sabotage to scare clients out of their residency, denying housing to people of color, numerous associations with the mafia, and a direct hand in the drug trade.

Oh, and it doesn't help that he violates impropriety in just about everything he is supporting.

How can anyone who claims to be a capitalist defend Clinton?

You need to learn the distinction between attacking one person and defending another.

Turning that around though -

How can anyone that values honesty and respect in business support Donald?

How can anyone that values capitalism support someone who filed for six bankrupties and lobbied the federal government to subsidize his business?

Wake up or get back in the toolbox.

Most of that shit is lies and mischaracterizations. For instance, Trump admitted tax avoidance, not tax evasion. Tax avoidance is legal. Tax evasion is a crime.

You're sounding exactly like some Hillary butthole sucker. How can you claim to be a capitalist and support the ultimate anti-capitalist?

 

[Onyx]

Most of that shit is lies and mischaracterizations.

No, actually it is all verifiably true.

You're sounding exactly like some Hillary butthole sucker. How can you claim to be a capitalist and support the ultimate anti-capitalist?

Again, I do not support Hillary. I am not voting for Hillary. Your fallacious deflection tactics will not work.

It is ironic considering you are sucking the cock of one of the worst crooks in America. You are nothing but a degenerate tool.

 

[bripat9643]

Most of that shit is lies and mischaracterizations.

No, actually it is all verifiably true.

I just showed it to be false.

You're sounding exactly like some Hillary butthole sucker. How can you claim to be a capitalist and support the ultimate anti-capitalist?

Again, I do not support Hillary. I am not voting for Hillary. Your fallacious deflection tactics will not work.

It is ironic considering you are sucking the cock of one of the worst crooks in America. You are nothing but a degenerate tool.

It's obvious you support Hillary. All you ever do is attack Trump. Someone who opposed Hillary would point out her lies, crimes and deficiencies at least part of the time.

 

[Onyx]

I just showed it to be false.

Do you know what conjecture is?

It is 90% of your posts.

All you ever do is attack Trump. Someone who opposed Hillary would point out her lies, crimes and deficiencies at least part of the time.

No shit.

Donald is far worse. Hillary is just another small time moderate establishment pick.

 

[bripat9643]

I just showed it to be false.

Do you know what conjecture is?

It is 90% of your posts.

So you actually believe Trump admitted to tax evasion?