Amazing, Six Members of the Clown Car did WHAT?

[Seawytch]

Here is the House bill for the First Amendment Defense Act: H.R.2802 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): First Amendment Defense Act

Sponsored by Raul Labrador (R-ID-1). He's a Mormon, by the way.

152 co-sponsors. 151 of them have an R after their name.

No, really. 152 out of 153 names are Republicans.

How many of those co-sponsors do you think have been divorced and remarried, in direct violation of Matthew 19:9?

Hmmmm...

How many of them got divorced because of their spouse's cheating?
Which is not a violation of Matthew 19:9

Is that question on your marriage certificate application? Didn't think so.

You have to notify the county clerk if you have been divorced, and then you have to show the divorce papers to prove you are not committing bigamy. But there is no adultery test, and there is no ban on adulterers remarrying. Show me THAT bill!

David Vitter is a sponsor of this bill. That screams hypocrisy.

So if we want to defend religion, we better start asking for proof you aren't an adulterer before you are allowed to marry again.

By the way, looking at porn is adultery.

Why? this has nothing to do with defending ones rights. Weather or not they are religious has nothing to do with passing laws that state OTHER religious people have the right to live by their convictions.

Yeah, I'm sure this law allows for the Muslim DMV worker to refuse to issue licenses to women, right?

 

[Iceweasel]

Being gay / Lesbian is not a choice, selecting a religion is most definitely.

Can you prove it's genetic?

 

[peach174]

Here is the House bill for the First Amendment Defense Act: H.R.2802 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): First Amendment Defense Act

Sponsored by Raul Labrador (R-ID-1). He's a Mormon, by the way.

152 co-sponsors. 151 of them have an R after their name.

No, really. 152 out of 153 names are Republicans.

How many of those co-sponsors do you think have been divorced and remarried, in direct violation of Matthew 19:9?

Hmmmm...

How many of them got divorced because of their spouse's cheating?
Which is not a violation of Matthew 19:9

Is that question on your marriage certificate application? Didn't think so.

You have to notify the county clerk if you have been divorced, and then you have to show the divorce papers to prove you are not committing bigamy. But there is no adultery test, and there is no ban on adulterers remarrying. Show me THAT bill!

David Vitter is a sponsor of this bill. That screams hypocrisy.

So if we want to defend religion, we better start asking for proof you aren't an adulterer before you are allowed to marry again.

By the way, looking at porn is adultery.

Why? this has nothing to do with defending ones rights. Weather or not they are religious has nothing to do with passing laws that state OTHER religious people have the right to live by their convictions.

Yeah, I'm sure this law allows for the Muslim DMV worker to refuse to issue licenses to women, right?

Maybe, but only in the cities who have implemented Sharia Law like Dearborn Michigan.
Very stupid move by that city council by the way.

 

[Seawytch]

Here is the House bill for the First Amendment Defense Act: H.R.2802 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): First Amendment Defense Act

Sponsored by Raul Labrador (R-ID-1). He's a Mormon, by the way.

152 co-sponsors. 151 of them have an R after their name.

No, really. 152 out of 153 names are Republicans.

How many of those co-sponsors do you think have been divorced and remarried, in direct violation of Matthew 19:9?

Hmmmm...

How many of them got divorced because of their spouse's cheating?
Which is not a violation of Matthew 19:9

Is that question on your marriage certificate application? Didn't think so.

You have to notify the county clerk if you have been divorced, and then you have to show the divorce papers to prove you are not committing bigamy. But there is no adultery test, and there is no ban on adulterers remarrying. Show me THAT bill!

David Vitter is a sponsor of this bill. That screams hypocrisy.

So if we want to defend religion, we better start asking for proof you aren't an adulterer before you are allowed to marry again.

By the way, looking at porn is adultery.

Why? this has nothing to do with defending ones rights. Weather or not they are religious has nothing to do with passing laws that state OTHER religious people have the right to live by their convictions.

Yeah, I'm sure this law allows for the Muslim DMV worker to refuse to issue licenses to women, right?

Maybe, but only in the cities who have implemented Sharia Law like Dearborn Michigan.
Very stupid move by that city council by the way.

There aren't any cities that have "implemented Sharia Law". Very stupid people fell for a satirical website.

And please, by all means, explain to me how such a law would allow a bigoted KY Clerk to deny marriage licenses to gays and not allow a bigoted Muslim clerk to deny driver's licenses to women?

 

[Seawytch]

Being gay / Lesbian is not a choice, selecting a religion is most definitely.

Can you prove it's genetic?

Nobody said it was genetic. What scientists say is that there is a genetic predisposition for sexual orientation, but there is no single "gay gene".

Male Sexual Orientation Influenced by Genes, Study Shows

Genetic and Environmental Influences on Sexual Orientation

The Science of Sexual Orientation

The one thing that scientiest in the field all agree upon? That sexual orientation is not chosen.

 

[peach174]

How many of them got divorced because of their spouse's cheating?
Which is not a violation of Matthew 19:9

Is that question on your marriage certificate application? Didn't think so.

You have to notify the county clerk if you have been divorced, and then you have to show the divorce papers to prove you are not committing bigamy. But there is no adultery test, and there is no ban on adulterers remarrying. Show me THAT bill!

David Vitter is a sponsor of this bill. That screams hypocrisy.

So if we want to defend religion, we better start asking for proof you aren't an adulterer before you are allowed to marry again.

By the way, looking at porn is adultery.

Why? this has nothing to do with defending ones rights. Weather or not they are religious has nothing to do with passing laws that state OTHER religious people have the right to live by their convictions.

Yeah, I'm sure this law allows for the Muslim DMV worker to refuse to issue licenses to women, right?

Maybe, but only in the cities who have implemented Sharia Law like Dearborn Michigan.
Very stupid move by that city council by the way.

There aren't any cities that have "implemented Sharia Law". Very stupid people fell for a satirical website.

And please, by all means, explain to me how such a law would allow a bigoted KY Clerk to deny marriage licenses to gays and not allow a bigoted Muslim clerk to deny driver's licenses to women?

I did not know that National Report was a satirical site. Thanks for the info.
Also Sharia Law does not forbid women to drive.
We are not Saudi Arabia where it is forbidden and that law over there is not based on their religion.

 

[Iceweasel]

Being gay / Lesbian is not a choice, selecting a religion is most definitely.

Can you prove it's genetic?

Nobody said it was genetic. What scientists say is that there is a genetic predisposition for sexual orientation, but there is no single "gay gene".

Male Sexual Orientation Influenced by Genes, Study Shows

Genetic and Environmental Influences on Sexual Orientation

The Science of Sexual Orientation

The one thing that scientiest in the field all agree upon? That sexual orientation is not chosen.

That's a lie. Scientists do not all agree, that's your faith speaking. Some people are naturally more masculine or feminine but human sexuality is complex. The environment the child is raised in plays a huge role. So they may be influenced by no fault of their own but to pretend it's like race or gender is wrong.

 

[Seawytch]

Is that question on your marriage certificate application? Didn't think so.

You have to notify the county clerk if you have been divorced, and then you have to show the divorce papers to prove you are not committing bigamy. But there is no adultery test, and there is no ban on adulterers remarrying. Show me THAT bill!

David Vitter is a sponsor of this bill. That screams hypocrisy.

So if we want to defend religion, we better start asking for proof you aren't an adulterer before you are allowed to marry again.

By the way, looking at porn is adultery.

Why? this has nothing to do with defending ones rights. Weather or not they are religious has nothing to do with passing laws that state OTHER religious people have the right to live by their convictions.

Yeah, I'm sure this law allows for the Muslim DMV worker to refuse to issue licenses to women, right?

Maybe, but only in the cities who have implemented Sharia Law like Dearborn Michigan.
Very stupid move by that city council by the way.

There aren't any cities that have "implemented Sharia Law". Very stupid people fell for a satirical website.

And please, by all means, explain to me how such a law would allow a bigoted KY Clerk to deny marriage licenses to gays and not allow a bigoted Muslim clerk to deny driver's licenses to women?

I did not know that National Report was a satirical site. Thanks for the info.
Also Sharia Law does not forbid women to drive.
We are not Saudi Arabia where it is forbidden and that law over there is not based on their religion.

Where does biblical law allow refusing service? Is that what Jesus would have done? Nope...he's bake the gay cake and turn their water into wine.

In Saudi Arabia, they interpret Sharia law to do just that. From wiki:

Many conservative Saudi women do not support loosening traditional gender roles and restrictions, on the grounds that Saudi Arabia is the closest thing to an "ideal and pure Islamic nation," and under threat from "imported Western values".[12]

Among the factors that define rights for women in Saudi are government laws, the Hanbali and Wahhabi interpretation of Sunni Islam, and traditional customs of the Arabian peninsula​

So stop dodging. Why should this law allow a bigoted clerk not to issue a marriage license to gays, but not allow a Muslim to deny driver's licenses?

 

[Seawytch]

Being gay / Lesbian is not a choice, selecting a religion is most definitely.

Can you prove it's genetic?

Nobody said it was genetic. What scientists say is that there is a genetic predisposition for sexual orientation, but there is no single "gay gene".

Male Sexual Orientation Influenced by Genes, Study Shows

Genetic and Environmental Influences on Sexual Orientation

The Science of Sexual Orientation

The one thing that scientiest in the field all agree upon? That sexual orientation is not chosen.

That's a lie. Scientists do not all agree, that's your faith speaking. Some people are naturally more masculine or feminine but human sexuality is complex. The environment the child is raised in plays a huge role. So they may be influenced by no fault of their own but to pretend it's like race or gender is wrong.

Okay, you find me an actual scientist that does not' agree.

Just an "FYI", the scientists from NARTH have been discredited by the scientific community.

And no, the environment raised in does not play any role.

 

[Iceweasel]

Where does biblical law allow refusing service? Is that what Jesus would have done? Nope...he's bake the gay cake and turn their water into wine.

Biblical law? You don't know the first thing about it! Go play with your dildos, you have nothing of value to offer here.

 

[Iceweasel]

Being gay / Lesbian is not a choice, selecting a religion is most definitely.

Can you prove it's genetic?

Nobody said it was genetic. What scientists say is that there is a genetic predisposition for sexual orientation, but there is no single "gay gene".

Male Sexual Orientation Influenced by Genes, Study Shows

Genetic and Environmental Influences on Sexual Orientation

The Science of Sexual Orientation

The one thing that scientiest in the field all agree upon? That sexual orientation is not chosen.

That's a lie. Scientists do not all agree, that's your faith speaking. Some people are naturally more masculine or feminine but human sexuality is complex. The environment the child is raised in plays a huge role. So they may be influenced by no fault of their own but to pretend it's like race or gender is wrong.

Okay, you find me an actual scientist that does not' agree.

Just an "FYI", the scientists from NARTH have been discredited by the scientific community.

And no, the environment raised in does not play any role.

Strawman alert. You made a claim all scientists agree people have no choice. I called you on it now you want to drag NARTH into your cellpool.

LOL.

 

[Seawytch]

I did not know that National Report was a satirical site.

How could you not? The headline today is:

SARAH PALIN BANS MUSLIMS FROM ENTERING BRISTOL PALIN

I mean, seriously...

 

[peach174]

Why? this has nothing to do with defending ones rights. Weather or not they are religious has nothing to do with passing laws that state OTHER religious people have the right to live by their convictions.

Yeah, I'm sure this law allows for the Muslim DMV worker to refuse to issue licenses to women, right?

Maybe, but only in the cities who have implemented Sharia Law like Dearborn Michigan.
Very stupid move by that city council by the way.

There aren't any cities that have "implemented Sharia Law". Very stupid people fell for a satirical website.

And please, by all means, explain to me how such a law would allow a bigoted KY Clerk to deny marriage licenses to gays and not allow a bigoted Muslim clerk to deny driver's licenses to women?

I did not know that National Report was a satirical site. Thanks for the info.
Also Sharia Law does not forbid women to drive.
We are not Saudi Arabia where it is forbidden and that law over there is not based on their religion.

Where does biblical law allow refusing service? Is that what Jesus would have done? Nope...he's bake the gay cake and turn their water into wine.

In Saudi Arabia, they interpret Sharia law to do just that. From wiki:

Many conservative Saudi women do not support loosening traditional gender roles and restrictions, on the grounds that Saudi Arabia is the closest thing to an "ideal and pure Islamic nation," and under threat from "imported Western values".[12]

Among the factors that define rights for women in Saudi are government laws, the Hanbali and Wahhabi interpretation of Sunni Islam, and traditional customs of the Arabian peninsula​

So stop dodging. Why should this law allow a bigoted clerk not to issue a marriage license to gays, but not allow a Muslim to deny driver's licenses?

Maybe if you could actually find a Muslim American who would want to deny drivers licenses to women.
I don't know of any do you?
It would more likely apply to all Christians, Jews and Muslims who's religion teaches that homosexuality is sinful, than it would be for not wanting women to drive.

 

[Seawytch]

Being gay / Lesbian is not a choice, selecting a religion is most definitely.

Can you prove it's genetic?

Nobody said it was genetic. What scientists say is that there is a genetic predisposition for sexual orientation, but there is no single "gay gene".

Male Sexual Orientation Influenced by Genes, Study Shows

Genetic and Environmental Influences on Sexual Orientation

The Science of Sexual Orientation

The one thing that scientiest in the field all agree upon? That sexual orientation is not chosen.

That's a lie. Scientists do not all agree, that's your faith speaking. Some people are naturally more masculine or feminine but human sexuality is complex. The environment the child is raised in plays a huge role. So they may be influenced by no fault of their own but to pretend it's like race or gender is wrong.

Okay, you find me an actual scientist that does not' agree.

Just an "FYI", the scientists from NARTH have been discredited by the scientific community.

And no, the environment raised in does not play any role.

Strawman alert. You made a claim all scientists agree people have no choice. I called you on it now you want to drag NARTH into your cellpool.

LOL.

NARTH is not credible. They have been universally panned by the scientific community.

Snake oil salesmen are not pharmacists. See a real doctor.

But hey, by all means, post your studies that prove being gay is a choice.

 

[peach174]

I did not know that National Report was a satirical site.

How could you not? The headline today is:

SARAH PALIN BANS MUSLIMS FROM ENTERING BRISTOL PALIN

I mean, seriously...

I don't read nor know the website.
Just like many did not know the Onion was one.
All I did was type in where in America is Sharia Law implemented and that came up.

 

[Conservative65]

Can you prove it's genetic?

Nobody said it was genetic. What scientists say is that there is a genetic predisposition for sexual orientation, but there is no single "gay gene".

Male Sexual Orientation Influenced by Genes, Study Shows

Genetic and Environmental Influences on Sexual Orientation

The Science of Sexual Orientation

The one thing that scientiest in the field all agree upon? That sexual orientation is not chosen.

That's a lie. Scientists do not all agree, that's your faith speaking. Some people are naturally more masculine or feminine but human sexuality is complex. The environment the child is raised in plays a huge role. So they may be influenced by no fault of their own but to pretend it's like race or gender is wrong.

Okay, you find me an actual scientist that does not' agree.

Just an "FYI", the scientists from NARTH have been discredited by the scientific community.

And no, the environment raised in does not play any role.

Strawman alert. You made a claim all scientists agree people have no choice. I called you on it now you want to drag NARTH into your cellpool.

LOL.

NARTH is not credible. They have been universally panned by the scientific community.

Snake oil salesmen are not pharmacists. See a real doctor.

But hey, by all means, post your studies that prove being gay is a choice.

By all means, post all you excuses that something you seem to be so proud of isn't something you are willing to claim you chose to be. I'd be ashamed to admit I chose to be abnormal, too. That's why I chose to do things the normal way.

 

[Seawytch]

Where does biblical law allow refusing service? Is that what Jesus would have done? Nope...he's bake the gay cake and turn their water into wine.

Biblical law? You don't know the first thing about it! Go play with your dildos, you have nothing of value to offer here.

I know quite a bit about it. See, people that don't believe in the bible usually know more than people that do. Isn't that weird?

Um, you know porn is free. Get your dildo fix elsewhere.

 

[Seawytch]

I did not know that National Report was a satirical site.

How could you not? The headline today is:

SARAH PALIN BANS MUSLIMS FROM ENTERING BRISTOL PALIN

I mean, seriously...

I don't read nor know the website.
Just like many did not know the Onion was one.
All I did was type in where in America is Sharia Law implemented and that came up.

Oh, so you were lazy.

 

[Dana7360]

They are they lamely pandering and The FADA is unlikely going to become law. It was introduced six months ago and nothing has come of it.

But that won't stop them for continually trying to push it down our throats.

No doubt. This pledge is simply throwing a little red meat to the religious right.

Quite frankly, I would love to see state and federal public accommodations laws scrapped almost entirely.

You would like businesses to be permitted to deny service to you based on the fact that you are gay?

I would like businesses to be permitted to deny service to any person and for whatever reason. If people find those business practices have objectionable than they will take their duckets elsewhere. If their business fails then they have no one to blame but themselves. I wouldn't to give my money to that business anyway.

What about those who live in remote rural areas? Places that are hundreds of miles from the nearest next town?

Areas that have only one store. That one store won't allow you inside to buy food just because you're gay.

Where are you going to get food or the necessities of life?

Or say the gas station? They won't let you get gas because you're gay. Where are you going to get gas?

Even though your tax dollars paid for the streets that the store owner uses for trucks to bring food and other life necessities to his store to sell. Even though your tax dollars is paying for the police and fire department that serve that store.

Or the private company that owns the electricity or natural gas that is used to electrify and heat homes? Is it fair that they deny you electricity or gas just because you're gay?

Do you think it's fair for someone to deny you food or gas or anything just because you're gay and you have no other place to get those things?

 

[Iceweasel]

Can you prove it's genetic?

Nobody said it was genetic. What scientists say is that there is a genetic predisposition for sexual orientation, but there is no single "gay gene".

Male Sexual Orientation Influenced by Genes, Study Shows

Genetic and Environmental Influences on Sexual Orientation

The Science of Sexual Orientation

The one thing that scientiest in the field all agree upon? That sexual orientation is not chosen.

That's a lie. Scientists do not all agree, that's your faith speaking. Some people are naturally more masculine or feminine but human sexuality is complex. The environment the child is raised in plays a huge role. So they may be influenced by no fault of their own but to pretend it's like race or gender is wrong.

Okay, you find me an actual scientist that does not' agree.

Just an "FYI", the scientists from NARTH have been discredited by the scientific community.

And no, the environment raised in does not play any role.

Strawman alert. You made a claim all scientists agree people have no choice. I called you on it now you want to drag NARTH into your cellpool.

LOL.

NARTH is not credible. They have been universally panned by the scientific community.

Snake oil salesmen are not pharmacists. See a real doctor.

But hey, by all means, post your studies that prove being gay is a choice.

Hey asshole. What does this have to with NARTH? Put your dildo down and go start another thread. You are full of shit, you wanted one, you got one:

Nature vs. Nurture: The Biology of Sexuality | BU Today | Boston University
Pillard and Bailey examined identical and fraternal twin brothers—as well as nonrelated brothers who had been adopted—in an effort to see if there was a genetic explanation for homosexuality. They found that if one identical twin was gay, 52 percent of the time the other was also; the figure was 22 percent for fraternal twins, and only 5 percent for nonrelated adopted brothers. Pillard and Bailey’s findings have been debated in the intervening decades.

Pillard is quick to point out that much about how sexual orientation is determined remains a mystery. “It’s really hard to come up with any definite statement about the situation,” he says. “I think some sort of genetic influence seems very likely, but beyond that, what really can we say? And the answer is: not a lot.”