America Before the Entitlement State

[Sky Dancer]

COLONEL HUGO BANZER, President of Bolivia
FULGENCIO BATISTA, President of Cuba
SIR HASSANAL BOLKIAH, the Sultan of Brunei
P. W. BOTHA, President of South Africa
GENERAL HUMBERTO BRANCO, President of Brazil
VINICIO CEREZO, President of Guatemala
CHIANG KAI-SHEK, President of Taiwan
ROBERTO SUAZO CORDOVA, President of Honduras
ALFREDO CRISTIANI, President of El Salvador
NGO DINH DIEM, President of South Viet Nam
GENERAL SAMUEL DOE, President of Liberia
FRANÇOIS & JEAN CLAUDE DUVALIER, Presidents-for-Life of Haiti
GENERAL FRANCISCO FRANCO, President of Spain
ADOLF HITLER, Chancellor of Germany
HUSSAN II, King of Morocco
FERDINAND MARCOS, President of the Philippines
MAXIMILIANO HERNANDEZ MARTINEZ, General of El Salvador
MOBUTU SESE SEKO, President of Zaire
GENERAL MANUEL NORIEGA, Chief of Defense forces, Panama
TURGUT OZAL, Prime Minister of Turkey
MOHAMMAD REZA PAHLEVI, Shah of Iran, King of Kings
GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS, Prime Minister of Greece
PARK CHUNG HEE, President of South Korea
GENERAL AUGUSTO PINOCHET, President of Chile
GENERAL SITIVENI RABUKA, Commander, Armed Forces of Fiji
GENERAL EFRAIN RIOS MONT, President of Guatemala
ANTONIO DE OLIVEIRA SALAZAR, Prime Minister of Portugal
HALIE SELASSIE, Emperor of Ethiopia
IAN SMITH, Prime Minister of Rhodesia
ANASTASIO SOMOZA, SR. AND JR., Presidents of Nicaragua
ALFREDO STROESSNER, President-for-Life of Paraguay
GENERAL SUHARTO, President of Indonesia
RAFAEL LEONIDAS TRUJILLO, President of the Dominican Republic
GENERAL JORGE RAFAEL VIDELA, President of Argentina
MOHAMMED ZIA UL-HAQ, President of Pakistan

 

[Sky Dancer]

US support for Latin American dictators:

Panama (General Manuel Noriega)
Honduras (Roberto Suazo Cordova)
Guatemala( Efrain Rios Mont)
Nicaragua (Anastasio Somoza Garcia)
El Salvador (General Maximilio Hernández)
US: Support for Latin American dictators

 

[Sky Dancer]

USA Supported Dictators



Abacha, General Sani - Nigeria
Amin, Idi - Uganda
Banzer, Colonel Hugo - Bolivia
Batista, Fulgencio - Cuba
Bolkiah, Sir Hassanal - Brunei
Botha, P.W. - South Africa
Branco, General Humberto - Brazil
Cedras, Raoul - Haiti
Cerezo, Vinicio - Guatemala
Chiang Kai-Shek - Taiwan
Cordova, Roberto Suazo - Honduras
Christiani, Alfredo - El Salvador
Diem, Ngo Dihn - Vietnam
Doe, General Samuel - Liberia
Duvalier, Francois - Haiti
Duvalier, Jean Claude - Haiti
Fahd bin'Abdul-'Aziz, King - Saudi Arabia
Franco, General Francisco - Spain
Hitler, Adolf - Germany
Hassan II - Morocco
Marcos, Ferdinand - Philippines
Martinez, General Maximiliano - El Salvador
Mobutu Sese Seko - Zaire
Noriega, General Manuel - Panama
Ozal, Turgut - Turkey
Pahlevi, Shah Mohammed Reza - Iran
Papadopoulos, George - Greece
Park Chung Hee - South Korea
Pinochet, General Augusto - Chile
Pol Pot - Cambodia
Rabuka, General Sitiveni - Fiji
Montt, General Efrain Rios - Guatemala
Salassie, Halie - Ethiopia
Salazar, Antonio de Oliveira - Portugal
Somoza, Anastasio Jr. - Nicaragua
Somoza, Anastasio, Sr. - Nicaragua
Smith, Ian - Rhodesia
Stroessner, Alfredo - Paraguay
Suharto, General - Indonesia
Trujillo, Rafael Leonidas - Dominican Republic
Videla, General Jorge Rafael - Argentina
Zia Ul-Haq, Mohammed - Pakistan

USA Supported Dictators

 

[Foxfyre]

Here is what 88 different psychological studies conducted between 1958 and 2002 that involved 22,818 people from 12 different countries found:

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.

The fucking shit you post...

Simply amazing.

Great Authoritarians from the 20th century:

Vlad Lenin - Bolshevik
Josef Stalin - Bolshevik
Benito Mussolini - Bolshevik then Fascist
Adolf Hitler - German Socialist Workers Party
Mao Tse Tung - Maoist
Ho Chi Minh - Maoist
Pol Pot - Maoist
Kim Sung Il - Maoist
Fidel Castro - Bolshevik
Daniel Ortega - Bolshevik

What is the common thread here? Oh that's right, they're all fucking socialists....

To that list, while not viscious dictators, let's add authoritarian personalities:
Barack Obama
Harry Reid
Nancy Pelosi
Barney Frank
Chris Dodd
Maxine Waters
Charlie Rangal
Hillary Clinton
Charles Schumer
. . . .we could add a whole bunch more but I think the point is made. What do these have in common? They are all liberal Democrats.

Anybody who holds high elective office and holds the power to determine what legislation will or will not be passed or is in a position to dictate policy is an 'authoritarian personality'.

 

[Uncensored2008]

USA Supported Dictators



Abacha, General Sani - Nigeria
Amin, Idi - Uganda

The USA supported Idi Amin, huh?

Because you openly lie, you are irrelevant.

 

[Unkotare]

THAT comment is bullshit.

Sadly, it is not. The State of California is run to benefit the public employees. The most powerful bloc are the prison guards. We make sure there are plenty of customers to keep our fat and lazy prison guards in business.

So, people are in California prisons who have not been convicted of crimes? Really?

 

[Unkotare]

I'm concerned about liberty.

You really wouldn't understand.

I'm afraid it's too late for him...

 

[Uncensored2008]

So, people are in California prisons who have not been convicted of crimes? Really?

People are in California prisons for crimes that do not warrant prison time. Cutting down a tree in their own front yard, things like that.

 

[Unkotare]

So, people are in California prisons who have not been convicted of crimes? Really?

People are in California prisons for crimes that do not warrant prison time. .

Do not warrant according to...you? And judges, juries, public prosecutors, the media, police...all colluding to enrich prison guards? Yeah.....you'll forgive me for suspecting you have some personal agenda here.

 

[rightwinger]

I'm concerned about liberty.

You really wouldn't understand.

I'm afraid it's too late for him...

Love that movie..

 

[rightwinger]

So, people are in California prisons who have not been convicted of crimes? Really?

People are in California prisons for crimes that do not warrant prison time. Cutting down a tree in their own front yard, things like that.

I bet they are in with Charlie Manson

 

[Uncensored2008]

Do not warrant according to...you? And judges, juries, public prosecutors, the media, police...all colluding to enrich prison guards? Yeah.....you'll forgive me for suspecting you have some personal agenda here.

I do have a personal agenda. I believe we were better before becoming a police state.

{Between 1990 and 2005, California’s prison population increased by 73%—nearly three times faster than the general adult population. At the end of 2010, California state prisons held about 163,000 adults, down from a peak of 172,000 in 2006. Even so, California penal institutions are operating at 175% of their design capacity, prompting the Supreme Court to order the transfer or release of more than 30,000 prisoners within two years.}

California's Changing Prison Population (PPIC Publication)

 

[Uncensored2008]

Love that movie..

Really?

Never thought much of it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I bet they are in with Charlie Manson

Folsom is an interesting place to visit. The population outside of the walls is about 18 times that which is inside. Most of these inmates live in tent like dorms, no bars or walls. Obviously the state doesn't view them as dangerous, just as a revenue stream.

 

[Unkotare]

{Between 1990 and 2005, California’s prison population increased by 73%—nearly three times faster than the general adult population.]

Interesting how that is also the period of the sharpest decline in crime rate since WWII.

 

[Unkotare]

Do not warrant according to...you? And judges, juries, public prosecutors, the media, police...all colluding to enrich prison guards? Yeah.....you'll forgive me for suspecting you have some personal agenda here.

I do have a personal agenda. I believe we were better before becoming a police state.]

That kind of hyperbolic emoting just makes you sound like some loony Ron Paul supporter.

 

[Foxfyre]

{Between 1990 and 2005, California’s prison population increased by 73%—nearly three times faster than the general adult population.]

Interesting how that is also the period of the sharpest decline in crime rate since WWII.

Which sort of blows out of the water the theory that crime is a result of poverty or people having hard times doesn't it.

Back before the age of entitlements--looking at the great depression coupled with the dust bowl in the 30's, rationing and tough austerity measures during the 40's, severe drought and other challenges in the 50's--yeah there were a few government program then but very few people were getting government help during those times--but the crime rates were low.

I was watching a news interview with an economics professor this morning--I don't remember the name of the university--who at the beginning of his freshman economics class asks his students to write an essay of what the American dream means to them. He was stunned at the more recent essays that revealed that most of the students considered this the American dream:

1. Free healthcare
2. Fee tuition
3. The government provides the down payment for a house
4. Lots of time off and great vacations.
5. Rich people pay all of the taxes.

When he askes the students if they got any instruction on the theories of John Locke, Adam Smith, and other great fathers of modern economics, not one was familiar with those names.

We need to close down all the public schools folks and start over with education. It ain't doing the job anymore.

 

[Bfgrn]

Here is what 88 different psychological studies conducted between 1958 and 2002 that involved 22,818 people from 12 different countries found:

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.

The fucking shit you post...

Simply amazing.

Great Authoritarians from the 20th century:

Vlad Lenin - Bolshevik
Josef Stalin - Bolshevik
Benito Mussolini - Bolshevik then Fascist
Adolf Hitler - German Socialist Workers Party
Mao Tse Tung - Maoist
Ho Chi Minh - Maoist
Pol Pot - Maoist
Kim Sung Il - Maoist
Fidel Castro - Bolshevik
Daniel Ortega - Bolshevik

What is the common thread here? Oh that's right, they're all fucking socialists....

Define conservatism...

 

[Uncensored2008]

Interesting how that is also the period of the sharpest decline in crime rate since WWII.

Isn't it though?

It's about growing the size and scope of the public employees, not about fighting crime.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That kind of hyperbolic emoting just makes you sound like some loony Ron Paul supporter.

Yawn.

I'm a registered Libertarian, have been for 20 years.

I don't support Paul, but I did vote for Bob Barr last go round.