'America First' Is An Offense To Liberals

[BluesLegend]

It is an offense to anyone that knows the history of "America First"

It was used by isolationists who argued against American involvement in WWII, against helping Europe to rebuild.

It certainly is not Anti-American to say that we ought to accept some burden that comes with helping others in this world and to do so under a set of internationally accepted laws.

The problem with that is we've had leadership that actually has been helping those who hate us and they've spit on us in return for our generosity.

The problem is we haven't had leadership.

 

[Moonglow]

Anything Trump says will be twisted and perverted by the left it does not matter what he says or how he means it.

It's done by both side, duh...

 

[Fenton Lum]

It is an offense to anyone that knows the history of "America First"

It was used by isolationists who argued against American involvement in WWII, against helping Europe to rebuild.

It certainly is not Anti-American to say that we ought to accept some burden that comes with helping others in this world and to do so under a set of internationally accepted laws.

The problem with that is we've had leadership that actually has been helping those who hate us and they've spit on us in return for our generosity.

The problem is we haven't had leadership.

Sure you have; Goldman Sachs, Wall Street, world bankers, etc. The same ones you have now.

 

[AntonToo]

It is an offense to anyone that knows the history of "America First"

It was used by isolationists who argued against American involvement in WWII, against helping Europe to rebuild.

It certainly is not Anti-American to say that we ought to accept some burden that comes with helping others in this world and to do so under a set of internationally accepted laws.

The problem with that is we've had leadership that actually has been helping those who hate us and they've spit on us in return for our generosity.

You mean like Trump has been helping Putin?

Whatever your quibbles about PARTICULAR policy, the GENERAL idea remains true - sometimes we should help others at some expense on our side. There is a world out there and we have at least some moral responsibility to it.

It's one thing to help people, yet another to sell the farm to do so.

But on the GENERAL point you agree, or am I not correct?

I agree, but that's not what Democrats have been doing.
They've weakened this nation, stole from us, and helped those who hate us.
The left calls America just one big wealth concentration that needs to be fleeced.
Democrats are happy to oblige.

America weakened? How?

Our economy has been made stronger under Obama, performing probably the best out of any other major post-recession economies. Our popularity increased around the world, our military is as strong and ready as it has ever been.

How are exactly have we been weakened?

 

[Bush92]

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I listened to Trump's speech.....and I got an impression from it that is totally adverse to what the left is saying about it. Imagine a mindset that cannot grasp the thought that a president would think of the country of his birth before all others. This is the darkness that most elitist liberals saw in that speech. That a president of the United States would dare to think that taking care of our needs over the needs of the world should come first. That is why he was elected. A president that wasn't trying to bring America down to the level of every other country. A president that wasn't intentionally trying to weaken his own nation making it easier for other nations to compete with us. No other country thinks that way and survives.

The left hates America. They say they love America, but the don't. That is why Bernie Sanders says America is the least compassionate nation in the world. Imagine having a president that makes no bones about this. Perhaps this is why the left supported him. He is anti-American to the core. Liberals lean towards putting America last. It's easy for them to justify themselves because deep down they resent America. They've been taught to most of their lives. They feel that thinking first of your own country is evil. I keep thinking that the best place for folks that think this way is anywhere but here. I believe that this country has flaws but it has turned out to be one of the few shining examples of freedom and opportunity on the planet. Liberals see nothing but racism, bigotry, and oppression. I really cannot grasp this perspective. To me, anyone who feels this way is a threat to their own country. Because of this, they must not be allowed to dictate policy because they are in essence a greater threat than any enemy outside our shores. It's easier to defend ourselves from a threat that is 2000 miles away than it is to defend against someone who's inside your defensive perimeter.

How ironic that the presidential oath doesn't say defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. Every other federal oath says so. Why not the presidential oath?

Links

‘It Was Militant and It Was Dark’: Rachel Maddow Says Trump’s Speech Was ‘Hard to Hear’

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/presidential-oath-of-office.html

Article Two of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

8 Most Unhinged Inaugural Media Meltdowns

They go to the Howard Zinn school of history. Zinn was a member of CPUSA.

 

[Iceweasel]

The problem with that is we've had leadership that actually has been helping those who hate us and they've spit on us in return for our generosity.

You mean like Trump has been helping Putin?

Whatever your quibbles about PARTICULAR policy, the GENERAL idea remains true - sometimes we should help others at some expense on our side. There is a world out there and we have at least some moral responsibility to it.

It's one thing to help people, yet another to sell the farm to do so.

But on the GENERAL point you agree, or am I not correct?

I agree, but that's not what Democrats have been doing.
They've weakened this nation, stole from us, and helped those who hate us.
The left calls America just one big wealth concentration that needs to be fleeced.
Democrats are happy to oblige.

America weakened? How?

Our economy has been made stronger under Obama, performing probably the best out of any other major post-recession economies. Our popularity increased around the world, our military is as strong and ready as it has ever been.

How are exactly have we been weakened?

The economy tanked under Pelosi and Reid so anything would have been better. What did obama do to fix it? His regulations and policies have hurt business. Fracking is what saved gas prices, no thanks to him.

 

[mudwhistle]

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I listened to Trump's speech.....and I got an impression from it that is totally adverse to what the left is saying about it. Imagine a mindset that cannot grasp the thought that a president would think of the country of his birth before all others. This is the darkness that most elitist liberals saw in that speech. That a president of the United States would dare to think that taking care of our needs over the needs of the world should come first. That is why he was elected. A president that wasn't trying to bring America down to the level of every other country. A president that wasn't intentionally trying to weaken his own nation making it easier for other nations to compete with us. No other country thinks that way and survives.

The left hates America. They say they love America, but the don't. That is why Bernie Sanders says America is the least compassionate nation in the world. Imagine having a president that makes no bones about this. Perhaps this is why the left supported him. He is anti-American to the core. Liberals lean towards putting America last. It's easy for them to justify themselves because deep down they resent America. They've been taught to most of their lives. They feel that thinking first of your own country is evil. I keep thinking that the best place for folks that think this way is anywhere but here. I believe that this country has flaws but it has turned out to be one of the few shining examples of freedom and opportunity on the planet. Liberals see nothing but racism, bigotry, and oppression. I really cannot grasp this perspective. To me, anyone who feels this way is a threat to their own country. Because of this, they must not be allowed to dictate policy because they are in essence a greater threat than any enemy outside our shores. It's easier to defend ourselves from a threat that is 2000 miles away than it is to defend against someone who's inside your defensive perimeter.

How ironic that the presidential oath doesn't say defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. Every other federal oath says so. Why not the presidential oath?

Links

‘It Was Militant and It Was Dark’: Rachel Maddow Says Trump’s Speech Was ‘Hard to Hear’

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/presidential-oath-of-office.html

Article Two of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

8 Most Unhinged Inaugural Media Meltdowns

Your own country must be quite a mess, foreigner.

Well you wouldn't know because you can't face up to the truth of my citizenship much less guess which country I supposedly belong to.

My country is an abortion and you're one of the reasons it is so.

 

[mudwhistle]

It is an offense to anyone that knows the history of "America First"

It was used by isolationists who argued against American involvement in WWII, against helping Europe to rebuild.

It certainly is not Anti-American to say that we ought to accept some burden that comes with helping others in this world and to do so under a set of internationally accepted laws.

The problem with that is we've had leadership that actually has been helping those who hate us and they've spit on us in return for our generosity.

The problem is we haven't had leadership.

When it comes to the Department of Defense, that was the first observation that was handed down to us at our first town hall with the post commander at Ft Campbell. There was no directives coming from the Pentagon because defense was an afterthought to Obama.

 

[Norman]

It is an offense to anyone that knows the history of "America First"

It was used by isolationists who argued against American involvement in WWII, against helping Europe to rebuild.

It certainly is not Anti-American to say that we ought to accept some burden that comes with helping others in this world and to do so under a set of internationally accepted laws.

But the most sad part is that Trump is either ignorant of it or doesn't care about it - he just liked the way it sounds on the surface and went with it. That is the superficial surface on which he glides through politics and perhaps even life.

That or when they say America first, they actually mean just that, AMERICA FIRST. No crazy complicated theories and hidden meanings involved...

Had you listened to Trump's advice on that quote, you would have figured it out.

 

[AntonToo]

It is an offense to anyone that knows the history of "America First"

It was used by isolationists who argued against American involvement in WWII, against helping Europe to rebuild.

It certainly is not Anti-American to say that we ought to accept some burden that comes with helping others in this world and to do so under a set of internationally accepted laws.

But the most sad part is that Trump is either ignorant of it or doesn't care about it - he just liked the way it sounds on the surface and went with it. That is the superficial surface on which he glides through politics and perhaps even life.

That or when they say America first, they actually mean just that, AMERICA FIRST. No crazy complicated theories and hidden meanings involved...

Had you listened to Trump's advice on that quote, you would have figured it out.

Totally - if you don't think about it much or know any history it sounds wonderful... I'll leave that to you and Trump.

 

[bripat9643]

It is an offense to anyone that knows the history of "America First"

It was used by isolationists who argued against American involvement in WWII, against helping Europe to rebuild.

It certainly is not Anti-American to say that we ought to accept some burden that comes with helping others in this world and to do so under a set of internationally accepted laws.

The problem with that is we've had leadership that actually has been helping those who hate us and they've spit on us in return for our generosity.

You mean like Trump has been helping Putin?

Whatever your quibbles about PARTICULAR policy, the GENERAL idea remains true - sometimes we should help others at some expense on our side. There is a world out there and we have at least some moral responsibility to it.

How has Trump helped Putin?

 

[Norman]

It is an offense to anyone that knows the history of "America First"

It was used by isolationists who argued against American involvement in WWII, against helping Europe to rebuild.

It certainly is not Anti-American to say that we ought to accept some burden that comes with helping others in this world and to do so under a set of internationally accepted laws.

But the most sad part is that Trump is either ignorant of it or doesn't care about it - he just liked the way it sounds on the surface and went with it. That is the superficial surface on which he glides through politics and perhaps even life.

That or when they say America first, they actually mean just that, AMERICA FIRST. No crazy complicated theories and hidden meanings involved...

Had you listened to Trump's advice on that quote, you would have figured it out.

Totally - if you don't think about it much or know any history it sounds wonderful... I'll leave that to you and Trump.

God forbid if the president who was chosen to serve his country puts hits country first.

It can't possibly be!


Once again, perhaps you should take a look at the quote, and stop the crazy theorizing, it isn't doing you any good.

 

[bripat9643]

It is an offense to anyone that knows the history of "America First"

It was used by isolationists who argued against American involvement in WWII, against helping Europe to rebuild.

It certainly is not Anti-American to say that we ought to accept some burden that comes with helping others in this world and to do so under a set of internationally accepted laws.

The problem with that is we've had leadership that actually has been helping those who hate us and they've spit on us in return for our generosity.

You mean like Trump has been helping Putin?

Whatever your quibbles about PARTICULAR policy, the GENERAL idea remains true - sometimes we should help others at some expense on our side. There is a world out there and we have at least some moral responsibility to it.

It's one thing to help people, yet another to sell the farm to do so.

But on the GENERAL point you agree, or am I not correct?

I don't. We have no obligation to get involved in foreign wars or help any country to rebuild. That isn't the purpose of government.

 

[hangover]

'America First' Is An Offense To Liberals

Trump and his minions don't understand that, "The first will be last, and the last shall be first". You are only cutting off your nose to spite you face.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

'America First' Is An Offense To Liberals

Trump and his minions don't understand that, "The first will be last, and the last shall be first". You are only cutting off your nose to spite you face.

Liberals don't understand that what Obama said when he won applies, Elections have consequences. Trump is President and the Republicans control the Government grow a pair and live with it.

 

[mudwhistle]

'America First' Is An Offense To Liberals

Trump and his minions don't understand that, "The first will be last, and the last shall be first". You are only cutting off your nose to spite you face.

You need to get your head out of the clouds and come back to Earth.

 

[mudwhistle]

It is an offense to anyone that knows the history of "America First"

It was used by isolationists who argued against American involvement in WWII, against helping Europe to rebuild.

It certainly is not Anti-American to say that we ought to accept some burden that comes with helping others in this world and to do so under a set of internationally accepted laws.

The problem with that is we've had leadership that actually has been helping those who hate us and they've spit on us in return for our generosity.

You mean like Trump has been helping Putin?

Whatever your quibbles about PARTICULAR policy, the GENERAL idea remains true - sometimes we should help others at some expense on our side. There is a world out there and we have at least some moral responsibility to it.

Not waging a Cold War does not equal helping.

Democrats feel that if we all aren't wailing in unison with them we must be in total support of the target they direct their fire at.

 

[Anathema]

Whatever your quibbles about PARTICULAR policy, the GENERAL idea remains true - sometimes we should help others at some expense on our side. There is a world out there and we have at least some moral responsibility to it.

We have NO responsibility to help others. When the levies in New Orleans but, I don't see Haiti sending get aircraft carriers and hospital ships to help the USA. we've more than repaid France for its help in the Revolution. We don't owe anyone anything.

 

[xyz]

It is an offense to anyone that knows the history of "America First"

It was used by isolationists who argued against American involvement in WWII, against helping Europe to rebuild.

It certainly is not Anti-American to say that we ought to accept some burden that comes with helping others in this world and to do so under a set of internationally accepted laws.

The problem with that is we've had leadership that actually has been helping those who hate us and they've spit on us in return for our generosity.

You mean like Trump has been helping Putin?

Whatever your quibbles about PARTICULAR policy, the GENERAL idea remains true - sometimes we should help others at some expense on our side. There is a world out there and we have at least some moral responsibility to it.

How has Trump helped Putin?

By squealing on the Russian businessmen who he did business with. Really he'd like to do more, but he hasn't consolidated his power, which is why Putin helped him get elected.

 

[initforme]

I put myself and my family far above my country....the way everyone else does. America first is laughable. it's a smokescreen.