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Again, reports indicate that the nurses weren't suited up when interacting with Duncan for a couple of days.The two nurses were suited up and treating directly Mr. Duncan and got sick, If they were suited up then they shouldn't have gotten sick at all. Ebola can take up to 21 days to incubate so it's kind of too soon to say whether anyone else will come down with it.It appears that Duncan was in the general population for a few days at the hospital and those that cared for him also cared for others. It's actually more surprising that more people haven't come down with ebola from what I've read of what went on in the hospital.Thanks for stopping by and proving my point.Are you nuts that are melting down over ebola serious or is just politics for you?
I can't believe the level of hysteria out there. This is the US for God's sake. Quit acting like hysterical school children.
Who is it that is freaking out?
Are you suggesting that Ebola, which is among the deadliest known viruses on earth... is something that is not worthy of serious concern, when the Socialist government presently running the United States goes out of their way to see that it ENTERS THE UNITED STATES?
I ask, because IF that is what you're driving at here, that would place you soundly centered in the middle of the group OKA: IMBECILES!
Consider this Ravi. Six months ago Ebola had never been seen in the USA. Now we have had multiple cases two of which were contracted by nurses who were suited up treating an Ebola patient and shouldn't have gotten sick at all and yet did. This Disease is more transmittable then our government wants to admit. Now considering Obama has done diddly squat to prevent this from happening, I'd say that Key's statement of the government going out of it's way to see Ebola enters the country not a fantastic statement. Even doing nothing AKA Obozo's Ebola policy and further proof of his incompetency as President, could be seen as actively trying to infect the population of the USA.
Looks like we move you into the hysteria category.
As far as the Yale student, I hope it's only a bad case of flu but considering Ebola has the same symptoms as other illnesses there is no way of knowing until blood work comes back. If our ancestors weren't afraid to quarantine people back in the days of Ellis Island, why should we? It's common sense, of course we should when there's a deadly disease going around. It's not as contagious as other diseases like the Spanish Flu which caused a pandemic in 1918, which was airborne. However as you can see by the counties in Africa, Ebola which is transferred by bodily fluids, is still pretty contagious and should be treated the same. It's not much to ask.
While there are folks that seem to have gone a bit over the edge, there is a need for concern. There is absolutely no reason that the second nurse should have been on a plane. At all.
The Spanish Influenza which has been dropped to a few sentences in text books, if mentioned at all, came through a military base. It killed over half of the soldiers in Europe during WWI. It killed (lowest estimate) 188,000 people here. Some cities couldn't make coffins fast enough to bury the dead. They didn't have enough people to continuously bury them.
It is not unreasonable for people to be concerned in regards to Ebola. This is compounded by the length of the wait until it is recognized or the fever.
It reminds me of the hysteria connected with AIDS and how some towns drove people away.
Apples and oranges.While there are folks that seem to have gone a bit over the edge, there is a need for concern. There is absolutely no reason that the second nurse should have been on a plane. At all.
The Spanish Influenza which has been dropped to a few sentences in text books, if mentioned at all, came through a military base. It killed over half of the soldiers in Europe during WWI. It killed (lowest estimate) 188,000 people here. Some cities couldn't make coffins fast enough to bury the dead. They didn't have enough people to continuously bury them.
It is not unreasonable for people to be concerned in regards to Ebola. This is compounded by the length of the wait until it is recognized or the fever.
It reminds me of the hysteria connected with AIDS and how some towns drove people away.
Not one American has died of ebola. That's pretty good for such an "incompetent" government.3 people, all of whom had contact with each other, out of 310 million in this country have gotten Ebola and you're all acting like it's the end of days. Stop being a bunch of pussies.
You're missing the point. The issue is that the sheer incompetence of our government is causing people to not trust the government to keep Ebola contained.
The chances of being gunned down in a public place are far greater than contracting Ebola. Americans are cool with being shot though. Go figure.
Would you ride a bus with an ebola patient?
Not one American has died of ebola. That's pretty good for such an "incompetent" government.3 people, all of whom had contact with each other, out of 310 million in this country have gotten Ebola and you're all acting like it's the end of days. Stop being a bunch of pussies.
You're missing the point. The issue is that the sheer incompetence of our government is causing people to not trust the government to keep Ebola contained.
Not one American has died of ebola.Not one American has died of ebola. That's pretty good for such an "incompetent" government.3 people, all of whom had contact with each other, out of 310 million in this country have gotten Ebola and you're all acting like it's the end of days. Stop being a bunch of pussies.
You're missing the point. The issue is that the sheer incompetence of our government is causing people to not trust the government to keep Ebola contained.
I'd prefer to not let it spin out of control so that Americans do die.
Again, you miss the point. America is like jumbo jet with a drunk pilot passed out at the controls. That is why the majority of Americans are concerned about Ebola. We neither trust the government to tell the truth, nor to do anything competently. All this current government does is to spin the news cycle....and even that is not done very effectively.
Would you ride on a plane/car/bus with someone who has ebola?Not one American has died of ebola.Not one American has died of ebola. That's pretty good for such an "incompetent" government.3 people, all of whom had contact with each other, out of 310 million in this country have gotten Ebola and you're all acting like it's the end of days. Stop being a bunch of pussies.
You're missing the point. The issue is that the sheer incompetence of our government is causing people to not trust the government to keep Ebola contained.
I'd prefer to not let it spin out of control so that Americans do die.
Again, you miss the point. America is like jumbo jet with a drunk pilot passed out at the controls. That is why the majority of Americans are concerned about Ebola. We neither trust the government to tell the truth, nor to do anything competently. All this current government does is to spin the news cycle....and even that is not done very effectively.
Not one American has died of ebola.Not one American has died of ebola. That's pretty good for such an "incompetent" government.3 people, all of whom had contact with each other, out of 310 million in this country have gotten Ebola and you're all acting like it's the end of days. Stop being a bunch of pussies.
You're missing the point. The issue is that the sheer incompetence of our government is causing people to not trust the government to keep Ebola contained.
I'd prefer to not let it spin out of control so that Americans do die.
Again, you miss the point. America is like jumbo jet with a drunk pilot passed out at the controls. That is why the majority of Americans are concerned about Ebola. We neither trust the government to tell the truth, nor to do anything competently. All this current government does is to spin the news cycle....and even that is not done very effectively.
yep, the usual rw suspects are fluffing the issue for cheap political points. 'twas ever thus. Look at that shit stain's 007 & Marianne siggies for proof.Are you nuts that are melting down over ebola serious or is just politics for you?
I can't believe the level of hysteria out there. This is the US for God's sake. Quit acting like hysterical school children.
tl;drProtect us from death? Really?God ain't gonna stop you from contracting ebola and dying a slow horrible death.I haven't seen the news but the last time I checked I didn't note anyone acting "hysterical", Ravi. Actually to me? It seems it is the greatest opportunity ever to preach the Gospel and see the world come to saving faith in Jesus Christ. Afterall, what is impossible for man is possible with God. All things are possible when you call upon the name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus there is deliverance, In the name of Jesus there is healing, in the name of Jesus there is perfect peace. In his name alone. Those who wish to have that peace need only repent of their sins and cry out to the LORD. To me? This is a time of people being ready to turn to Him for help. The Lord is a strong tower and the righteous run into it and they are safe. Jesus is the answer for any fear man has. He is the only answer. I have no fear of Ebola. None. You see? Very easy. Trust Jesus.
I am very concerned for the people in the US as a whole because if they are living a worldly life - (christian or non christian ) living in sin, etc they are open season for this sort of satanic attack. Ebola is from the pit of hell. Look at the symptoms - it is utterly satanic.
Are you telling me that God is not able to protect His Own People who call upon Him to do so? Ha! Ha! You must be kidding me!!!! Of course God can protect His Own Children! Do not be so silly! Seriously. The Word of God is true. Look up Psalm 91. It is for anyone who is willing to repent of their sins and live holy unto the LORD. I'll have to do a thread on Psalm 91 today. You obviously have not a clue of what 1 Peter 2:24 says nor what Psalm 91 says! Look it up!
Those pumkins you are celebrating for Halloween are satanic - Halloween is one of the most high holy days to Satan when Satanic rituals are going on - people are being kidnapped between middle of October up to 31st to be sacrificed to Satan - read Johanna Michaelson's book - Beautiful Side of Evil - or Rebecca Browns' book - Prepare for War or Set the Captives free and get educated. No God fearing human being on earth should have any part of Halloween - or May Day - April 30th / May 1st or December 21st - another high holy day to Satan - none of these days should be acknowledged by God fearing people - these are things to pray against - not join in and celebrate!
Churches should not be opting for a "harvest festival" on Oct 31st they should be having all night prayer vigils against the satanists out there celebrating the satanic holiday - it is time - high time that people woke up, R.D. No, God says my people perish for lack of knowledge. If you are foolish enough to celebrate a high holy day to Satan - the enemy of God by your pumpkin avatar you should not expect God to answer when you call upon him to save you from death. Nor should you expect to see him afterwards. All who lift up Satan and his holidays won't be entering the kingdom of heaven and ignorance is no excuse!!!
Wake up! Repent and call upon the name of the LORD JESUS CHRIST to forgive you of your sins - pray Romans 10:9,10 and ask the LORD to be your Lord and Savior - to save your entire family - read the new testament and put down the remote control to godless television. Be holy says the LORD. Come out from among them and be ye separated - says the LORD. Come out of sin completely read Psalm 91 and claim it over your house. If you have halloween objects - any satanic objects in your house - get it off your property and burn it - anoint your home with oil and pray over it - every opening over the tops and sides a dot of oil will do - every window - every door - every opening - even over your fireplace - your vent over stove - any opening or window in your house - anoint it with a dab of oil - olive oil as God to bless the oil - He knows what you are going to do - He will honor that prayer - it will be a blessing over your house. If any ungodly person walks through your front door (you should not be permitting them into your house) you will have to anoint the doors with oil again after they leave. Seal your house and be vigilant in prayer.
Plead the BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST - AFTER BEING SAVED YOU HAVE LUKE 10:19 AUTHORITY - YOU BIND SATAN AND COMMAND HIM TO GET OUT OF YOUR HOUSE AND TAKE HIS EVIL SPIRITS OUT OF THERE AND OFF YOUR PROPERTY - YOU ANOINT YOUR HOUSE AND PRAY OVER EVERY ROOM IN THE NAME OF JESUS - ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT TO SHOW YOU ANYTHING THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE - THROW IT OUT IMMEDIATELY AND BURN IT - GOD IS FAITHFUL. OBEY GOD AND YOU'LL HAVE PSALM 91 BLESSING OVER YOUR LIFE. THAT IS A FACT.
And here I actually thought Marianne had a lick of sense. Next she'll be either suspecting FEMA camps or demanding FEMA camps, depending on which way her hysteria travels.yep, the usual rw suspects are fluffing the issue for cheap political points. 'twas ever thus. Look at that shit stain's 007 & Marianne siggies for proof.Are you nuts that are melting down over ebola serious or is just politics for you?
I can't believe the level of hysteria out there. This is the US for God's sake. Quit acting like hysterical school children.
yep, the usual rw suspects are fluffing the issue for cheap political points. 'twas ever thus. Look at that shit stain's 007 & Marianne siggies for proof.Are you nuts that are melting down over ebola serious or is just politics for you?
I can't believe the level of hysteria out there. This is the US for God's sake. Quit acting like hysterical school children.
Again, reports indicate that the nurses weren't suited up when interacting with Duncan for a couple of days.The two nurses were suited up and treating directly Mr. Duncan and got sick, If they were suited up then they shouldn't have gotten sick at all. Ebola can take up to 21 days to incubate so it's kind of too soon to say whether anyone else will come down with it.It appears that Duncan was in the general population for a few days at the hospital and those that cared for him also cared for others. It's actually more surprising that more people haven't come down with ebola from what I've read of what went on in the hospital.Thanks for stopping by and proving my point.Who is it that is freaking out?
Are you suggesting that Ebola, which is among the deadliest known viruses on earth... is something that is not worthy of serious concern, when the Socialist government presently running the United States goes out of their way to see that it ENTERS THE UNITED STATES?
I ask, because IF that is what you're driving at here, that would place you soundly centered in the middle of the group OKA: IMBECILES!
Consider this Ravi. Six months ago Ebola had never been seen in the USA. Now we have had multiple cases two of which were contracted by nurses who were suited up treating an Ebola patient and shouldn't have gotten sick at all and yet did. This Disease is more transmittable then our government wants to admit. Now considering Obama has done diddly squat to prevent this from happening, I'd say that Key's statement of the government going out of it's way to see Ebola enters the country not a fantastic statement. Even doing nothing AKA Obozo's Ebola policy and further proof of his incompetency as President, could be seen as actively trying to infect the population of the USA.
Looks like we move you into the hysteria category.
As far as the Yale student, I hope it's only a bad case of flu but considering Ebola has the same symptoms as other illnesses there is no way of knowing until blood work comes back. If our ancestors weren't afraid to quarantine people back in the days of Ellis Island, why should we? It's common sense, of course we should when there's a deadly disease going around. It's not as contagious as other diseases like the Spanish Flu which caused a pandemic in 1918, which was airborne. However as you can see by the counties in Africa, Ebola which is transferred by bodily fluids, is still pretty contagious and should be treated the same. It's not much to ask.
Now, about that quarantine, I'd like to know how you would imagine it happening. Isolation units for all that have been anywhere near someone that later came down with ebola? Or cared for someone in a hospital setting with ebola?
tl;dr except for the part about the "Quarrentine", what is that? Spell check, buy one.Again, reports indicate that the nurses weren't suited up when interacting with Duncan for a couple of days.The two nurses were suited up and treating directly Mr. Duncan and got sick, If they were suited up then they shouldn't have gotten sick at all. Ebola can take up to 21 days to incubate so it's kind of too soon to say whether anyone else will come down with it.It appears that Duncan was in the general population for a few days at the hospital and those that cared for him also cared for others. It's actually more surprising that more people haven't come down with ebola from what I've read of what went on in the hospital.Thanks for stopping by and proving my point.
Consider this Ravi. Six months ago Ebola had never been seen in the USA. Now we have had multiple cases two of which were contracted by nurses who were suited up treating an Ebola patient and shouldn't have gotten sick at all and yet did. This Disease is more transmittable then our government wants to admit. Now considering Obama has done diddly squat to prevent this from happening, I'd say that Key's statement of the government going out of it's way to see Ebola enters the country not a fantastic statement. Even doing nothing AKA Obozo's Ebola policy and further proof of his incompetency as President, could be seen as actively trying to infect the population of the USA.
Looks like we move you into the hysteria category.
As far as the Yale student, I hope it's only a bad case of flu but considering Ebola has the same symptoms as other illnesses there is no way of knowing until blood work comes back. If our ancestors weren't afraid to quarantine people back in the days of Ellis Island, why should we? It's common sense, of course we should when there's a deadly disease going around. It's not as contagious as other diseases like the Spanish Flu which caused a pandemic in 1918, which was airborne. However as you can see by the counties in Africa, Ebola which is transferred by bodily fluids, is still pretty contagious and should be treated the same. It's not much to ask.
Now, about that quarantine, I'd like to know how you would imagine it happening. Isolation units for all that have been anywhere near someone that later came down with ebola? Or cared for someone in a hospital setting with ebola?
I think it's safe to conclude that the hospital precautions weren't good enough unless you are you suggesting that the Dallas hospital allowed two nurses to have completely unprotected contact with Duncan knowing he had Ebola? In that case it only serves to prove that the average American hospital is grossly unprepared for Ebola and further proves the need to have a quarantine.
Now the Dallas hospital begs to differ saying they followed CDC procedure. If that's the case then the CDC is grossly unprepared for a disease like Ebola in a case where they should be the first line of defense. Again further proof we need a quarantine.
"Also Thursday, Texas Health Presbyterian defended its Ebola procedures, saying it followed CDC protocols. At a news conference Wednesday, leaders of National Nurses United had accused the hospital of mishandling care of Duncan, the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States."
"CDC protocols are just one of the Ebola issues to be raised as the House hearing."
"Both nurses who became infected had contact with Duncan in his first days in the Dallas hospital -- on Sept. 28, 29 and 30 -- when he was having "substantial amounts" of vomiting and had diarrhea, according to Frieden. He said officials will be assessing other health workers who had extensive contact with Duncan on these days."
"Dr. Daniel Varga of Texas Health Resources defended practices at the hospital, which has faced criticism amid the Ebola diagnoses.
“It’s clear there was an exposure somewhere, sometime in our treatment of Duncan. Let’s be clear we’re a hospital that serves this community extremely well,” Varga said at the press conference."
Second Ebola Nurse Violated Guidelines By Flying on Commercial Jet - ABC News
"The hospital responded Thursday, saying in a press release that Duncan was quickly placed in isolation when he returned to the hospital and was suspected of being infected, that staff wore appropriate protective equipment and that none of Duncan's fluids ever leaked into the tube system."
Nurse with Ebola virus to be moved out of Dallas
Now about that Quarrentine, It's simple enough. Ban all flights in and out of the infected area's. Any American returning from these area's need to either stay in Africa until they get a grip on the outbreak over there or be brought back in an isolation unit like the first Ebola patients Dr. Kent Brantly and Nancy Writebol and kept in the same hospital with the same procedures. There are only a handful of cases so it's doable.
