America Freaks Out

[koshergrl]

Hope nobody has kids who go to school here:
"Officials at school districts in Texas and Ohio shut schools on Thursday after they learned that two students traveled on the Cleveland-to-Dallas flight with Amber Joy Vinson, a nurse infected with Ebola, and that an employee may have later flown on the same plane."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/17/us/amber-joy-vinson-flight-causes-concern.html?_r=0

 

[koshergrl]

That's right, because we all know that the news outlets are supposed to bury distressing stories, particularly when they're exposing willfull and dangerous incompetence at the highest levels, that puts all of us at risk!

How dare they! Why aren't they promoting Dem candidates, like they're paid to?

Give me a fucking break.

 

[Valerie]

Those who celebrate it shall be in hell tormented eternally - no exceptions - it is forbidden by God to celebrate demons, satanic angels and devil worship - it is forbidden by God to worship Lucifer - you must repent of your sins and call upon the name of Jesus Christ to save you. Demons may give you some limited powers here on this earth but at what cost? Becoming a serial killer? A murderer? Look at all that is being required and that Satan's goal is to destroy you and cause you to suffer the torments of hell eternally! You need to wake up before it is too late!

Um, this thread isn't about Halloween. Please stop discussing it. Though I will say that after reading your posts I am going to dress up like a fundy, call myself Jeremiah, and go trick or treating on Halloween. Thanks for the inspiration!

what will you wear..??


sorry for the sidetrack, but while we're at it, you may want to stock up on chocolate!

a chocolate shortage is something people might reeeally panic over!

Should You Stock Up On Chocolate Bars Because Of Ebola Goats and Soda NPR

 

[Skull Pilot]

I haven't seen the news but the last time I checked I didn't note anyone acting "hysterical", Ravi. Actually to me? It seems it is the greatest opportunity ever to preach the Gospel and see the world come to saving faith in Jesus Christ. Afterall, what is impossible for man is possible with God. All things are possible when you call upon the name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus there is deliverance, In the name of Jesus there is healing, in the name of Jesus there is perfect peace. In his name alone. Those who wish to have that peace need only repent of their sins and cry out to the LORD. To me? This is a time of people being ready to turn to Him for help. The Lord is a strong tower and the righteous run into it and they are safe. Jesus is the answer for any fear man has. He is the only answer. I have no fear of Ebola. None. You see? Very easy. Trust Jesus.

I am very concerned for the people in the US as a whole because if they are living a worldly life - (christian or non christian ) living in sin, etc they are open season for this sort of satanic attack. Ebola is from the pit of hell. Look at the symptoms - it is utterly satanic.

God ain't gonna stop you from contracting ebola and dying a slow horrible death.

As an enemy of God you would no doubt LOVE for people to believe that Lie - that God is deaf, dumb and blind in heaven leaning on a cane - last miracle done in Goshen when the angel of death brought a deadly plague came over the land and all those "under the blood" were not touched! Oh! Yes. Listen. God is not dead. God is alive and well - it is your sins that have separated you from God so if you hear of the Ebola virus in your neck of the woods? You better run for your life and take cover fast! So long as you insist on living apart from obedience to Jesus Christ? You're wide open. That's the truth. Live with it.

Enemy?

Sorry but I have no enemies.

Your bible has made you think the world is full of enemies nut yet you fail to see that the god portrayed in the bible is a mass murderer.

Why would you want to bow down to a being that capriciously kills what it supposedly creates?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Are you nuts that are melting down over ebola serious or is just politics for you?

I can't believe the level of hysteria out there. This is the US for God's sake. Quit acting like hysterical school children.

THANKYOU! It's gotta be the visual of bleeding out from everywhere. Wasn't this hysterical for Bird Flu or SARS possibly because most of us have had flus and other respiatory things, but no one's bled from every pore before. So people freak out. Glad some of the posters here weren't alive for the cold war, wanna talk about something to be afraid of. Growing up in California I was acutely aware I was in the kill radius of the SF bay area's primary targets. But life goes on.

Worry about ebola when somoene in your immediate vicinity has it. Freaking out long before that makes you look like a whiney little pussy (apologies to the ladies.) There's more immediate threats to life than some disease. More likely to die on your way to work in your car tuning the radio for more ebola information than ebola itself. ...Or from a coworker after going on and on for weeks about ebola.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

There is an election coming up and we need a good crisis

Who'd they learn it from?

"You never let a serious crisis go to waste." - Rahm Emanuel

 

[Ravi]

Thanks for stopping by and proving my point.

Consider this Ravi. Six months ago Ebola had never been seen in the USA. Now we have had multiple cases two of which were contracted by nurses who were suited up treating an Ebola patient and shouldn't have gotten sick at all and yet did. This Disease is more transmittable then our government wants to admit. Now considering Obama has done diddly squat to prevent this from happening, I'd say that Key's statement of the government going out of it's way to see Ebola enters the country not a fantastic statement. Even doing nothing AKA Obozo's Ebola policy and further proof of his incompetency as President, could be seen as actively trying to infect the population of the USA.

It appears that Duncan was in the general population for a few days at the hospital and those that cared for him also cared for others. It's actually more surprising that more people haven't come down with ebola from what I've read of what went on in the hospital.

Looks like we move you into the hysteria category.

The two nurses were suited up and treating directly Mr. Duncan and got sick, If they were suited up then they shouldn't have gotten sick at all. Ebola can take up to 21 days to incubate so it's kind of too soon to say whether anyone else will come down with it.

As far as the Yale student, I hope it's only a bad case of flu but considering Ebola has the same symptoms as other illnesses there is no way of knowing until blood work comes back. If our ancestors weren't afraid to quarantine people back in the days of Ellis Island, why should we? It's common sense, of course we should when there's a deadly disease going around. It's not as contagious as other diseases like the Spanish Flu which caused a pandemic in 1918, which was airborne. However as you can see by the counties in Africa, Ebola which is transferred by bodily fluids, is still pretty contagious and should be treated the same. It's not much to ask.

Again, reports indicate that the nurses weren't suited up when interacting with Duncan for a couple of days.

Now, about that quarantine, I'd like to know how you would imagine it happening. Isolation units for all that have been anywhere near someone that later came down with ebola? Or cared for someone in a hospital setting with ebola?

I think it's safe to conclude that the hospital precautions weren't good enough unless you are you suggesting that the Dallas hospital allowed two nurses to have completely unprotected contact with Duncan knowing he had Ebola? In that case it only serves to prove that the average American hospital is grossly unprepared for Ebola and further proves the need to have a quarantine.

Now the Dallas hospital begs to differ saying they followed CDC procedure. If that's the case then the CDC is grossly unprepared for a disease like Ebola in a case where they should be the first line of defense. Again further proof we need a quarantine.

"Also Thursday, Texas Health Presbyterian defended its Ebola procedures, saying it followed CDC protocols. At a news conference Wednesday, leaders of National Nurses United had accused the hospital of mishandling care of Duncan, the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States."

"CDC protocols are just one of the Ebola issues to be raised as the House hearing."

"Both nurses who became infected had contact with Duncan in his first days in the Dallas hospital -- on Sept. 28, 29 and 30 -- when he was having "substantial amounts" of vomiting and had diarrhea, according to Frieden. He said officials will be assessing other health workers who had extensive contact with Duncan on these days."


"Dr. Daniel Varga of Texas Health Resources defended practices at the hospital, which has faced criticism amid the Ebola diagnoses.

“It’s clear there was an exposure somewhere, sometime in our treatment of Duncan. Let’s be clear we’re a hospital that serves this community extremely well,” Varga said at the press conference."

Second Ebola Nurse Violated Guidelines By Flying on Commercial Jet - ABC News


"The hospital responded Thursday, saying in a press release that Duncan was quickly placed in isolation when he returned to the hospital and was suspected of being infected, that staff wore appropriate protective equipment and that none of Duncan's fluids ever leaked into the tube system."

Nurse with Ebola virus to be moved out of Dallas



Now about that Quarrentine, It's simple enough. Ban all flights in and out of the infected area's. Any American returning from these area's need to either stay in Africa until they get a grip on the outbreak over there or be brought back in an isolation unit like the first Ebola patients Dr. Kent Brantly and Nancy Writebol and kept in the same hospital with the same procedures. There are only a handful of cases so it's doable.

The nurses accounts and the hospital administrators accounts disagree, as your link shows and you didn't quote that part.

So you only want to quarantine anyone coming from African countries and are okay with not quarantining anyone that has had contact with Duncan, the nurses, etc.?

 

[Asclepias]

Are you nuts that are melting down over ebola serious or is just politics for you?

I can't believe the level of hysteria out there. This is the US for God's sake. Quit acting like hysterical school children.

Who is it that is freaking out?

Are you suggesting that Ebola, which is among the deadliest known viruses on earth... is something that is not worthy of serious concern, when the Socialist government presently running the United States goes out of their way to see that it ENTERS THE UNITED STATES?

I ask, because IF that is what you're driving at here, that would place you soundly centered in the middle of the group OKA: IMBECILES!

Thanks for stopping by and proving my point.

Consider this Ravi. Six months ago Ebola had never been seen in the USA. Now we have had multiple cases two of which were contracted by nurses who were suited up treating an Ebola patient and shouldn't have gotten sick at all and yet did. This Disease is more transmittable then our government wants to admit. Now considering Obama has done diddly squat to prevent this from happening, I'd say that Key's statement of the government going out of it's way to see Ebola enters the country not a fantastic statement. Even doing nothing AKA Obozo's Ebola policy and further proof of his incompetency as President, could be seen as actively trying to infect the population of the USA.

It appears that Duncan was in the general population for a few days at the hospital and those that cared for him also cared for others. It's actually more surprising that more people haven't come down with ebola from what I've read of what went on in the hospital.

Looks like we move you into the hysteria category.

I guess that effectively kills the argument that its airborne. I guess unless they are hiding random people that have contracted ebola in bunkers in area 51.

 

[Marianne]

Consider this Ravi. Six months ago Ebola had never been seen in the USA. Now we have had multiple cases two of which were contracted by nurses who were suited up treating an Ebola patient and shouldn't have gotten sick at all and yet did. This Disease is more transmittable then our government wants to admit. Now considering Obama has done diddly squat to prevent this from happening, I'd say that Key's statement of the government going out of it's way to see Ebola enters the country not a fantastic statement. Even doing nothing AKA Obozo's Ebola policy and further proof of his incompetency as President, could be seen as actively trying to infect the population of the USA.

It appears that Duncan was in the general population for a few days at the hospital and those that cared for him also cared for others. It's actually more surprising that more people haven't come down with ebola from what I've read of what went on in the hospital.

Looks like we move you into the hysteria category.

The two nurses were suited up and treating directly Mr. Duncan and got sick, If they were suited up then they shouldn't have gotten sick at all. Ebola can take up to 21 days to incubate so it's kind of too soon to say whether anyone else will come down with it.

As far as the Yale student, I hope it's only a bad case of flu but considering Ebola has the same symptoms as other illnesses there is no way of knowing until blood work comes back. If our ancestors weren't afraid to quarantine people back in the days of Ellis Island, why should we? It's common sense, of course we should when there's a deadly disease going around. It's not as contagious as other diseases like the Spanish Flu which caused a pandemic in 1918, which was airborne. However as you can see by the counties in Africa, Ebola which is transferred by bodily fluids, is still pretty contagious and should be treated the same. It's not much to ask.

Again, reports indicate that the nurses weren't suited up when interacting with Duncan for a couple of days.

Now, about that quarantine, I'd like to know how you would imagine it happening. Isolation units for all that have been anywhere near someone that later came down with ebola? Or cared for someone in a hospital setting with ebola?

I think it's safe to conclude that the hospital precautions weren't good enough unless you are you suggesting that the Dallas hospital allowed two nurses to have completely unprotected contact with Duncan knowing he had Ebola? In that case it only serves to prove that the average American hospital is grossly unprepared for Ebola and further proves the need to have a quarantine.

Now the Dallas hospital begs to differ saying they followed CDC procedure. If that's the case then the CDC is grossly unprepared for a disease like Ebola in a case where they should be the first line of defense. Again further proof we need a quarantine.

"Also Thursday, Texas Health Presbyterian defended its Ebola procedures, saying it followed CDC protocols. At a news conference Wednesday, leaders of National Nurses United had accused the hospital of mishandling care of Duncan, the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States."

"CDC protocols are just one of the Ebola issues to be raised as the House hearing."

"Both nurses who became infected had contact with Duncan in his first days in the Dallas hospital -- on Sept. 28, 29 and 30 -- when he was having "substantial amounts" of vomiting and had diarrhea, according to Frieden. He said officials will be assessing other health workers who had extensive contact with Duncan on these days."


"Dr. Daniel Varga of Texas Health Resources defended practices at the hospital, which has faced criticism amid the Ebola diagnoses.

“It’s clear there was an exposure somewhere, sometime in our treatment of Duncan. Let’s be clear we’re a hospital that serves this community extremely well,” Varga said at the press conference."

Second Ebola Nurse Violated Guidelines By Flying on Commercial Jet - ABC News


"The hospital responded Thursday, saying in a press release that Duncan was quickly placed in isolation when he returned to the hospital and was suspected of being infected, that staff wore appropriate protective equipment and that none of Duncan's fluids ever leaked into the tube system."

Nurse with Ebola virus to be moved out of Dallas



Now about that Quarrentine, It's simple enough. Ban all flights in and out of the infected area's. Any American returning from these area's need to either stay in Africa until they get a grip on the outbreak over there or be brought back in an isolation unit like the first Ebola patients Dr. Kent Brantly and Nancy Writebol and kept in the same hospital with the same procedures. There are only a handful of cases so it's doable.

tl;dr except for the part about the "Quarrentine", what is that? Spell check, buy one.

I have spell check automatically I guess I didn't see it. Excuse me oh spelling Nazi for my horrible mistake.

 

[Marianne]

Consider this Ravi. Six months ago Ebola had never been seen in the USA. Now we have had multiple cases two of which were contracted by nurses who were suited up treating an Ebola patient and shouldn't have gotten sick at all and yet did. This Disease is more transmittable then our government wants to admit. Now considering Obama has done diddly squat to prevent this from happening, I'd say that Key's statement of the government going out of it's way to see Ebola enters the country not a fantastic statement. Even doing nothing AKA Obozo's Ebola policy and further proof of his incompetency as President, could be seen as actively trying to infect the population of the USA.

It appears that Duncan was in the general population for a few days at the hospital and those that cared for him also cared for others. It's actually more surprising that more people haven't come down with ebola from what I've read of what went on in the hospital.

Looks like we move you into the hysteria category.

The two nurses were suited up and treating directly Mr. Duncan and got sick, If they were suited up then they shouldn't have gotten sick at all. Ebola can take up to 21 days to incubate so it's kind of too soon to say whether anyone else will come down with it.

As far as the Yale student, I hope it's only a bad case of flu but considering Ebola has the same symptoms as other illnesses there is no way of knowing until blood work comes back. If our ancestors weren't afraid to quarantine people back in the days of Ellis Island, why should we? It's common sense, of course we should when there's a deadly disease going around. It's not as contagious as other diseases like the Spanish Flu which caused a pandemic in 1918, which was airborne. However as you can see by the counties in Africa, Ebola which is transferred by bodily fluids, is still pretty contagious and should be treated the same. It's not much to ask.

Again, reports indicate that the nurses weren't suited up when interacting with Duncan for a couple of days.

Now, about that quarantine, I'd like to know how you would imagine it happening. Isolation units for all that have been anywhere near someone that later came down with ebola? Or cared for someone in a hospital setting with ebola?

I think it's safe to conclude that the hospital precautions weren't good enough unless you are you suggesting that the Dallas hospital allowed two nurses to have completely unprotected contact with Duncan knowing he had Ebola? In that case it only serves to prove that the average American hospital is grossly unprepared for Ebola and further proves the need to have a quarantine.

Now the Dallas hospital begs to differ saying they followed CDC procedure. If that's the case then the CDC is grossly unprepared for a disease like Ebola in a case where they should be the first line of defense. Again further proof we need a quarantine.

"Also Thursday, Texas Health Presbyterian defended its Ebola procedures, saying it followed CDC protocols. At a news conference Wednesday, leaders of National Nurses United had accused the hospital of mishandling care of Duncan, the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States."

"CDC protocols are just one of the Ebola issues to be raised as the House hearing."

"Both nurses who became infected had contact with Duncan in his first days in the Dallas hospital -- on Sept. 28, 29 and 30 -- when he was having "substantial amounts" of vomiting and had diarrhea, according to Frieden. He said officials will be assessing other health workers who had extensive contact with Duncan on these days."


"Dr. Daniel Varga of Texas Health Resources defended practices at the hospital, which has faced criticism amid the Ebola diagnoses.

“It’s clear there was an exposure somewhere, sometime in our treatment of Duncan. Let’s be clear we’re a hospital that serves this community extremely well,” Varga said at the press conference."

Second Ebola Nurse Violated Guidelines By Flying on Commercial Jet - ABC News


"The hospital responded Thursday, saying in a press release that Duncan was quickly placed in isolation when he returned to the hospital and was suspected of being infected, that staff wore appropriate protective equipment and that none of Duncan's fluids ever leaked into the tube system."

Nurse with Ebola virus to be moved out of Dallas



Now about that Quarrentine, It's simple enough. Ban all flights in and out of the infected area's. Any American returning from these area's need to either stay in Africa until they get a grip on the outbreak over there or be brought back in an isolation unit like the first Ebola patients Dr. Kent Brantly and Nancy Writebol and kept in the same hospital with the same procedures. There are only a handful of cases so it's doable.

The nurses accounts and the hospital administrators accounts disagree, as your link shows and you didn't quote that part.

So you only want to quarantine anyone coming from African countries and are okay with not quarantining anyone that has had contact with Duncan, the nurses, etc.?

Don't be a moron. Of course you should quarantine anyone who has had exsposure to Ebola.

As I said if the nurses weren't properly trained it further proves my point, highlighted in red above, about the need for a quarantine. There was no need to quote the nurses accounts as it's abundantly clear that they are right and there was a major fail. Two nurses are sick with Ebola, there's your proof something wasn't done right. Still it's the nurses word against administrators and you neglected to point out that Adminstrators said they followed CDC guidelines. It may not be the hospital at all and both are correct, it may be the CDC guidelines that suck. Regardless it highlights there is a clear problem as I can't imagine a Dallas hospital is a third rate hospital full of untrained dumbasses. I'm sure they are as prepared as any hospital to treat Ebola which means most of our hospitals in the USA are not prepared properly to handle a Ebola patient. We aren't even talking mass causality here, it was one patient. Normal procedures aren't good enough when it comes to this disease. It's time to take this disease more seriously. All infected Americans need to be taken to a hospital that specializes in proper containment of such diseases.

And then there's clip board man...

 

[TooTall]

Are you nuts that are melting down over ebola serious or is just politics for you?

I can't believe the level of hysteria out there. This is the US for God's sake. Quit acting like hysterical school children.

Who is it that is freaking out?

Are you suggesting that Ebola, which is among the deadliest known viruses on earth... is something that is not worthy of serious concern, when the Socialist government presently running the United States goes out of their way to see that it ENTERS THE UNITED STATES?

I ask, because IF that is what you're driving at here, that would place you soundly centered in the middle of the group OKA: IMBECILES!

Thanks for stopping by and proving my point.

Consider this Ravi. Six months ago Ebola had never been seen in the USA. Now we have had multiple cases two of which were contracted by nurses who were suited up treating an Ebola patient and shouldn't have gotten sick at all and yet did. This Disease is more transmittable then our government wants to admit. Now considering Obama has done diddly squat to prevent this from happening, I'd say that Key's statement of the government going out of it's way to see Ebola enters the country not a fantastic statement. Even doing nothing AKA Obozo's Ebola policy and further proof of his incompetency as President, could be seen as actively trying to infect the population of the USA.

Give me a break! Obama cancelled fund raisers two days in a row to play at being President and talk about Ebola.

 

[Ravi]

You don't keep up with the news. The man without the hazmat suit purposely didn't wear one because those wearing the hazmat suits can't see very well. His job was to make sure none of them handling the patient accidentally exposed themselves.

Now, about the quarantine. Do you want to put all these people in individual isolation at a facility? Hospital staff, people that interacted with hospital staff, people that interacted with Duncan, his family, etc.?

 

[Marianne]

Are you nuts that are melting down over ebola serious or is just politics for you?

I can't believe the level of hysteria out there. This is the US for God's sake. Quit acting like hysterical school children.

Who is it that is freaking out?

Are you suggesting that Ebola, which is among the deadliest known viruses on earth... is something that is not worthy of serious concern, when the Socialist government presently running the United States goes out of their way to see that it ENTERS THE UNITED STATES?

I ask, because IF that is what you're driving at here, that would place you soundly centered in the middle of the group OKA: IMBECILES!

Thanks for stopping by and proving my point.

Consider this Ravi. Six months ago Ebola had never been seen in the USA. Now we have had multiple cases two of which were contracted by nurses who were suited up treating an Ebola patient and shouldn't have gotten sick at all and yet did. This Disease is more transmittable then our government wants to admit. Now considering Obama has done diddly squat to prevent this from happening, I'd say that Key's statement of the government going out of it's way to see Ebola enters the country not a fantastic statement. Even doing nothing AKA Obozo's Ebola policy and further proof of his incompetency as President, could be seen as actively trying to infect the population of the USA.

It appears that Duncan was in the general population for a few days at the hospital and those that cared for him also cared for others. It's actually more surprising that more people haven't come down with ebola from what I've read of what went on in the hospital.

Looks like we move you into the hysteria category.

I guess that effectively kills the argument that its airborne. I guess unless they are hiding random people that have contracted ebola in bunkers in area 51.

No it's transmitted through bodily fluids but it appears it's more contagious then lets say AIDS.

As far as bunkers at area 51, Nah not happening however consider this. Texas borders Mexico which is a largely unprotected border making it easy for illegals to get through. Now how long do you think it will be before a terrorist group willing to blow themselves up comes up with the bright Idea to have Ebola infected members come across that border and transmit the disease to an unsuspecting population? Back in Medieval times they used to catapult small pox infected bodies across the enemy lines to sicken and conquer the enemy more easily. If it worked before, it will work again.

 

[Asclepias]

Who is it that is freaking out?

Are you suggesting that Ebola, which is among the deadliest known viruses on earth... is something that is not worthy of serious concern, when the Socialist government presently running the United States goes out of their way to see that it ENTERS THE UNITED STATES?

I ask, because IF that is what you're driving at here, that would place you soundly centered in the middle of the group OKA: IMBECILES!

Thanks for stopping by and proving my point.

Consider this Ravi. Six months ago Ebola had never been seen in the USA. Now we have had multiple cases two of which were contracted by nurses who were suited up treating an Ebola patient and shouldn't have gotten sick at all and yet did. This Disease is more transmittable then our government wants to admit. Now considering Obama has done diddly squat to prevent this from happening, I'd say that Key's statement of the government going out of it's way to see Ebola enters the country not a fantastic statement. Even doing nothing AKA Obozo's Ebola policy and further proof of his incompetency as President, could be seen as actively trying to infect the population of the USA.

It appears that Duncan was in the general population for a few days at the hospital and those that cared for him also cared for others. It's actually more surprising that more people haven't come down with ebola from what I've read of what went on in the hospital.

Looks like we move you into the hysteria category.

I guess that effectively kills the argument that its airborne. I guess unless they are hiding random people that have contracted ebola in bunkers in area 51.

No it's transmitted through bodily fluids but it appears it's more contagious then lets say AIDS.

As far as bunkers at area 51, Nah not happening however consider this. Texas borders Mexico which is a largely unprotected border making it easy for illegals to get through. Now how long do you think it will be before a terrorist group willing to blow themselves up comes up with the bright Idea to have Ebola infected members come across that border and transmit the disease to an unsuspecting population? Back in Medieval times they used to catapult small pox infected bodies across the enemy lines to sicken and conquer the enemy more easily. If it worked before, it will work again.

Thats a very real possibility. I was also thinking about our northern border as well. However, the logistic required to do this is daunting. How do you transport a person you know has Ebola or the waste material without risking infection to yourself?

 

[Dot Com]

I would just appreciate it it if people like Marianne & Frank1400PennAve would stop politicizing it

 

[Marianne]

You don't keep up with the news. The man without the hazmat suit purposely didn't wear one because those wearing the hazmat suits can't see very well. His job was to make sure none of them handling the patient accidentally exposed themselves.

Now, about the quarantine. Do you want to put all these people in individual isolation at a facility? Hospital staff, people that interacted with hospital staff, people that interacted with Duncan, his family, etc.?

He was wearing NO PROTECTION. Don't you think he should have at least had a minimal suit on for his own protection? How hard can it be to function in the normal hospital surgical gown, mask and hat? It may not give hazmat suit protection but it still gives some protection. They clean the crap our of the ambulances and planes used for Ebola patients and yet let an unprotected man walk around near the patient?

Now about that quarantine. Yes. Clear a floor at one hospital and quarantine them. All hazmat suits used by staff should be the heavy duty self contained kind that can be cleaned. In 21 days we will know who's sick and who's not.

Of course it would have been better if this had been done from the start and a lot easier too because instead of dozens of potential victims you'd only have a few. Should lets say all those people on that plane with the infected nurse come down sick, then this has the potential of becoming an epidemic. Then none of us are safe. Better to inconvenience a few than to have people dropping dead in the streets. If you don't think that would happen think again. Mr. Duncan caught it from his neighbor who he tried to get help for only to be turned away by the Liberian hospitals because they were already full. The poor woman went back home and died. That's our future if we don't do something now.

 

[Marianne]

Thanks for stopping by and proving my point.

Consider this Ravi. Six months ago Ebola had never been seen in the USA. Now we have had multiple cases two of which were contracted by nurses who were suited up treating an Ebola patient and shouldn't have gotten sick at all and yet did. This Disease is more transmittable then our government wants to admit. Now considering Obama has done diddly squat to prevent this from happening, I'd say that Key's statement of the government going out of it's way to see Ebola enters the country not a fantastic statement. Even doing nothing AKA Obozo's Ebola policy and further proof of his incompetency as President, could be seen as actively trying to infect the population of the USA.

It appears that Duncan was in the general population for a few days at the hospital and those that cared for him also cared for others. It's actually more surprising that more people haven't come down with ebola from what I've read of what went on in the hospital.

Looks like we move you into the hysteria category.

I guess that effectively kills the argument that its airborne. I guess unless they are hiding random people that have contracted ebola in bunkers in area 51.

No it's transmitted through bodily fluids but it appears it's more contagious then lets say AIDS.

As far as bunkers at area 51, Nah not happening however consider this. Texas borders Mexico which is a largely unprotected border making it easy for illegals to get through. Now how long do you think it will be before a terrorist group willing to blow themselves up comes up with the bright Idea to have Ebola infected members come across that border and transmit the disease to an unsuspecting population? Back in Medieval times they used to catapult small pox infected bodies across the enemy lines to sicken and conquer the enemy more easily. If it worked before, it will work again.

Thats a very real possibility. I was also thinking about our northern border as well. However, the logistic required to do this is daunting. How do you transport a person you know has Ebola or the waste material without risking infection to yourself?

Have the military patrol the borders and let them shoot whoever crosses if necessary. Let the media give warnings first so any illegals know that's what's going to happen if they try it. I'm pretty sure if a Mexican is ordered to turn around at gun point and cross back into Mexico that they would argue. You either go through check points or you don't come in. Will that make us completely safe? No but it's better then leaving the borders wide open. I doubt the Canadians would violate the border crossing rules, they have no reason too but still the rules should be the same. Why should we make it easy?

 

[Dot Com]

is Marianne a naive college Repub broad in her early 20's? I get that impression from her hackery on display here.

 

[MikeK]

No it's transmitted through bodily fluids but it appears it's more contagious then lets say AIDS.

As far as bunkers at area 51, Nah not happening however consider this. Texas borders Mexico which is a largely unprotected border making it easy for illegals to get through. Now how long do you think it will be before a terrorist group willing to blow themselves up comes up with the bright Idea to have Ebola infected members come across that border and transmit the disease to an unsuspecting population? Back in Medieval times they used to catapult small pox infected bodies across the enemy lines to sicken and conquer the enemy more easily. If it worked before, it will work again.

I hadn't thought of that possibility but you've raised a very real, very scary prospect.

While the suicidal shahid mentality is difficult for the Western mind to comprehend and anticipate I have no doubt there are some who are willing to allow themselves to be infected and to set about spreading it as much as they are able before heading to Paradise.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Are you nuts that are melting down over ebola serious or is just politics for you?

I can't believe the level of hysteria out there. This is the US for God's sake. Quit acting like hysterical school children.

There is no hysteria. But there is a substantial amount of media hype. Almost as much as when OJ tried to get out of town in the backseat of that white Ford Bronco.