Americans are no longer smart enough to have a sucessful democracy

[Sawbriars]

It has been known for some time that America was being dumbed down and now we see the result of that at the highest levels of our government.

Also...our morality has been decreasing for several decades now....combine an immoral citzenry with tooooo many stupid citizens and you have the perfect storm.....a dysfunctional society and government.

People Aren't Smart Enough for Democracy to Flourish, Scientists Say | Why the Best Candidate Never Wins | Psychology | LiveScience

 

[Vigilante]

Waiting for the subversives to start calling you names....I'm hoping for some entertainment!

 

[Katzndogz]

Ben Franklin said this would happen.

 

[bodecea]

It has been known for some time that America was being dumbed down and now we see the result of that at the highest levels of our government.

Also...our morality has been decreasing for several decades now....combine an immoral citzenry with tooooo many stupid citizens and you have the perfect storm.....a dysfunctional society and government.

#1. "sucessful"?

#2. We are not a democracy, we are a republic.

#3. You're welcome.

 

[tyroneweaver]

God will send drought, pestilence, etc but the fools will just blame it on global warming not on their own debauchery

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

As part Native-American, I can say with a fair degree of certainty that throughout its history, the U.S. has never had a high degree of morality.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Americans are no longer smart enough to have a sucessful [sic] democracy

They never were. Why do you think the Liberals elites who founded the damn place didn't make it one? The last thing they wanted was you morons mucking about. That was a guaranteed death sentence.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

As part Native-American, I can say with a fair degree of certainty that throughout its history, the U.S. has never had a high degree of morality.

That is entirely correct. We are Moralistic, not Moral.

 

[Mojo2]

It has been known for some time that America was being dumbed down and now we see the result of that at the highest levels of our government.

Also...our morality has been decreasing for several decades now....combine an immoral citzenry with tooooo many stupid citizens and you have the perfect storm.....a dysfunctional society and government.

American Progressives, Liberals and Democrats are trying to re-interpret the Constitution in a way our Founding Fathers never intended.

They built us a house and left us the blueprint.

The Progressives and Liberals and Democrats are trying to play with the Constitution to serve their passing fancies and fads of the moment, without any concern for what their changes might do to bring down the house they inherited.

Look, this is their M.O. their Modus Operandi.

It is their pattern, their custom...what they do by default.

IRVING KRISTOL: If you had asked any liberal in 1960, we are going to pass these laws, these laws, these laws, and these laws, mentioning all the laws that in fact were passed in the 1960s and ‘70s, would you say crime will go up, drug addiction will go up, illegitimacy will go up, or will they get down? Obviously, everyone would have said, they will get down. And everyone would have been wrong. Now, that’s not something that the liberals have been able to face up to.

They’ve had their reforms, and they have led to consequences that they did not expect and they don’t know what to do about.

Silt 3.0: Baby It's Cold Outside (first half)

They’ve had their reforms, and they have led to consequences that they did not expect and they don’t know what to do about.

They want reforms now. Reforms that will, ONCE AGAIN, lead to consequences they don't expect and won't know how to fix.

They are fighting US like we are the enemy.

They have gone off the deep end and are calling US extremists!!!

They must not be allowed to prevail or else they will just repeat their pattern of making changes, this time to the Constitution and our Government, that will result in unanticipated results and consequences they won't know what to do about.

And it will be up to US to live with their fuck ups.

I say, NO.

 

[Mojo2]

Ben Franklin said this would happen.

That's why James Madison was ADAMANT about the inclusion of Article Five.

James Madison, known as the “Father of the Constitution,” Madison was instrumental in devising its system of checks and balances.

In Federalist No. 43, Madison made clear that the state-led amendment option was intended to be just as valid as the Congress-led option, saying: “[The Constitution] equally enables the general and the State governments to originate the amendment of errors, as they may be pointed out by the experience on one side, or on the (other). [16]

Writing extensively about the amendment process in Federalist No. 85, Alexander Hamilton makes clear that Article V allows the States to hold the federal government accountable by allowing them to call an amending convention and propose specific amendments: “But every amendment to the Constitution, if once established, would be a single proposition, and might be brought forward singly...There can, therefore, be no comparison between the facility of affecting an amendment, and that of establishing in the first instance a complete Constitution.” “We may safely rely on the disposition of the State legislatures to erect barriers against the encroachments of the national authority.” [17]

Article Five of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Sawbriars]

"The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" by
Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt,

"As a parent of 6 grown children I have wondered through the years, WHY all the different approaches in education have not seemed to enrich the process of learning in material and attitude. Why is there a growing deficit in critical thinking and why is there such a great amount of Federal Regulations that tie the hands of teachers in our local schools. Parents are suppose to feel that their children are safe and are being taught reading and writing skills and math and sciences but yet that is NOT the case. I feel sorry for most of our teachers who really would like to do what is best for our children but there are so many restraints and regulations to follow that teaching is a challenge. Yet we keep pouring money ( our tax dollars ) into our schools and are happy to do so because we want the best education and safe environment for our children.

If I were now raising my children through their educational years, I would most certainly HOME SCHOOL. The Federal Department of Education is directing what and how our children are being taught with the intention of dumbing down our children and their futures and Charlotte Iserbyt's book has all the documentation to prove that is the case. In fact, the Department of Education was established to hijack the education of American children.

Charlotte Iserbyt's new abridged book is easier to handle and read but her older book is also good to have as a reference for more documentation of what has been going on in the educational system. Much of the documentation will leave you shocked. Perhaps 10 years ago, one might have said, " this will never happen", but today, you KNOW it has happened and you will be furious to learn that it was the intention of the Department of Education to do so.

The next question to answer is, " What is it we do about the Department of Education" ? I firmly know what my answer is.
Get this book and wake up about what has been and continues to be going on in our schools".....by J. Andrews.


Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt is an American freelance writer who served as the Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement (OERI), U.S. Department of Education, during the first term of U.S. President Ronald Reagan, and staff employee of the U.S. Department of State (South Africa, Belgium, South Korea). She was born in 1930 and attended Dana Hall preparatory school and Katharine Gibbs College in New York City, where she studied business. Iserbyt's father and grandfather were Yale University graduates and members of the Skull and Bones secret society.

She is known for writing the book The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America. The book reveals that changes gradually brought into the American public education system work to eliminate the influences of a child's parents (religion, morals, national patriotism), and mold the child into a member of the proletariat in preparation for a socialist-collectivist world of the future. She says that these changes originated from plans formulated primarily by the Andrew Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Education and Rockefeller General Education Board, and details the psychological methods used to implement and effect the changes.

 

[Sawbriars]

It has been known for some time that America was being dumbed down and now we see the result of that at the highest levels of our government.

Also...our morality has been decreasing for several decades now....combine an immoral citzenry with tooooo many stupid citizens and you have the perfect storm.....a dysfunctional society and government.

#1. "sucessful"?

#2. We are not a democracy, we are a republic.

#3. You're welcome.

Look here Chump......I think we were all taught that in about the 3rd grade.....now for the truth..................Essentially Washington has rejected republican self government in favor of a pure democracy: no officers, leaders, or hierarchy, just a mob of politically correct hucksters playing like they are congressmen.

 

[Sawbriars]

As part Native-American, I can say with a fair degree of certainty that throughout its history, the U.S. has never had a high degree of morality.

Oh puhleezee spare us the pc propaganda. I hardly think anyone who brags about having some genetic link to a bunch of savages can be taken very seriously....get a clue...hollyweird movies are not to be taken seriously.....irregadless.....get back to "Little Big Man' and leave this discussion to the more intellectually mature.

For those interested in true edification..................Noble Red Man

 

[williepete]

I've been a voracious reader since childhood. I'm a history geek. I've been a C-SPAN Washington Journal junkie since 1996. When I drive, I listen to call-in shows on the radio. I chat with my neighbors' children and grandchildren. What all of the above Americans don't know after high school, college or life amazes me.

Daily, I'm jaw-dropped stunned at how ignorant Americans are of basic history and economics.

This experiment in self government is over. The inmates are running the asylum. The parasites have devoured the host.

All republics in history have failed. With history as our guide, our horizon won't be pretty.

"Society will develop a new kind of servitude which covers the surface of society with a network of complicated rules, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate. It does not tyrannise but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville, July 29, 1805 – April 16, 1859

 

[candycorn]

It has been known for some time that America was being dumbed down and now we see the result of that at the highest levels of our government.

Also...our morality has been decreasing for several decades now....combine an immoral citzenry with tooooo many stupid citizens and you have the perfect storm.....a dysfunctional society and government.

#1. "sucessful"?

#2. We are not a democracy, we are a republic.

#3. You're welcome.

When you have to explain to someone that we're not a democracy...it's easy to dismiss the rest of their commentary as amateurish.

 

[Kondor3]

I've been a voracious reader since childhood. I'm a history geek. I've been a C-SPAN Washington Journal junkie since 1996. When I drive, I listen to call-in shows on the radio. I chat with my neighbors' children and grandchildren. What all of the above Americans don't know after high school, college or life amazes me.

Daily, I'm jaw-dropped stunned at how ignorant Americans are of basic history and economics.

This experiment in self government is over. The inmates are running the asylum. The parasites have devoured the host.

All republics in history have failed. With history as our guide, our horizon won't be pretty.

"Society will develop a new kind of servitude which covers the surface of society with a network of complicated rules, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate. It does not tyrannise but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville, July 29, 1805 – April 16, 1859

He guessed what the Matrix was?

 

[flacaltenn]

It has been known for some time that America was being dumbed down and now we see the result of that at the highest levels of our government.

Also...our morality has been decreasing for several decades now....combine an immoral citzenry with tooooo many stupid citizens and you have the perfect storm.....a dysfunctional society and government.

#1. "sucessful"?

#2. We are not a democracy, we are a republic.

#3. You're welcome.

Look here Chump......I think we were all taught that in about the 3rd grade.....now for the truth..................Essentially Washington has rejected republican self government in favor of a pure democracy: no officers, leaders, or hierarchy, just a mob of politically correct hucksters playing like they are congressmen.

Here's a 3rd opinion (as if you needed it ).. No republic, no dysfunctional Aristocracy pretending to be a democracy in Washington..

Truth is -- because of the 2 party system -- 5 people run the government. That would be the Prez and the Minority/Majority leaders of both houses of Congress. NOTHING gets done in Congress without the powerful 4 --- cross them and you will be sent to broom closet as your new office. And the Prez now has more than equal power to the other 4 because the PREZ can make things happen by himself..

5 people.. The other 531 and the Sup Ct. hardly matter.. And neither do you... How can an ignorant electorate screw that up.. They don't get to VOTE for 4 of the 5 folks RUNNING the government -- unless they are from Ohio, Nevada, ---- awwww you get the picture...

<<< edited after I figured out it's Ohio, Nevada, California, and Kentucky :lol >>>>

 

[MikeK]

The American People are not so much "dumbed down' as they are spoiled, soft, politically lazy, apathetic, and imperious, all of which are symptoms of the malignancy known to behaviorists as alienation. Anyone who wishes to better understand the serious social disorder affecting our Nation is well advised to read, Escape From Freedom, by Dr. Erich Fromm (now available in paperback from Amazon). This is an interesting and extremely educational book.

 

[Interpol]

I disagree with the OP's comments.

Yes, we are smart enough to have and run a pretty well-functioning democracy. In recent years, an extreme of the Republican base has swelled in numbers in that party in Washington and elsewhere, and it's made governing hard because their platform is tied to not co-operating with anyone who disagrees with them on anything. Republicans and Democrats have successfully cut deals over time and the country has evolved and progressed. More and more people have equal rights. When the economy is going great, only about 5% of the working population can't find a job; when things are pretty crappy, just add a couple points or so. I mean, even in hard times we're still just about the richest country on the planet with 90% of its workforce working and producing.

And we get along in real life. Democrats and Republicans own and operate businesses together. They run communities together. Outside of the weirdness in the political arena where this new breed of Tea Party Republican only wants to burn the whole house down than negotiate compromises and actually get stuff they want, Americans keep moving this country forward.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If Americans can easily recognize the vermin philosophy of the sawbriars and the O.R.I.O.Ns then the OP is correct.