America's President Fails, No "America First" For Him

[Juan de Fuca]

Would it be fair to nickname the president the cave man?

"President Trump told Chinese President Xi Jinping Thursday night that he will honor the “One China” policy that recognizes Beijing as the only legitimate Chinese government.

The two leaders spoke by phone Thursday night, the White House said in a release, their first phone conversation since Trump’s inauguration.



“The two leaders discussed numerous topics and President Trump agreed, at the request of President Xi, to honor our ‘one China’ policy,” the release said. “Representatives of the United States and China will engage in discussions and negotiations on various issues of mutual interest.”

Trump accepted a call from Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen after his election, breaking with the long-standing protocol. He later told the Wall Street Journal that "Everything is under negotiation, including 'One China.'"

The White House described the Thursday call as "lengthy" and "extremely cordial," and said both men had extended invites to visit their respective countries.

The release came shortly after the publication of a New York Times reportthat described China as "stung" by Trump's call with Taiwan. Officials told the Times that Xi would not agree to speak with Trump until after his public acknowledgment of the policy, which in effect cuts off official governmental ties with Taiwan.

The call comes one day before Trump is set to meet with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in Washington, after which they will play golf at Trump's Palm Beach resort."
Trump promises Chinese president he'll honor 'One China' policy

Give your fevered imagination a rest. President Trump never said he was rejecting the one China policy, but that doesn't mean he will ignore Taiwan as other presidents have. There is a third way.

Yes it does. Because the "One China" policy says that the US will not deal with the Taiwan government. No American President since Nixon has taken a phone call from the Taiwanese.

As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. The One China policy is about which country will be the soul representative of the Chinese people, but that does not exclude the US having relations with the Taiwan. No one publicly accepted calls from the Taiwanese government but the US has had extensive economic dealings with the Taiwanese government, including significant arms sales that were strongly objected to by mainland China for many years. If we weren't supporting the independence of Taiwan, we wouldn't have sold them weapons over the objections of Beijing. What President Trump has done is bring some rationality to this crazy policy.

You seem to be the one confused about American policy with Taiwan. We have no diplomatic relationship at all period. We have a business relationship and that relationship is one dedicated to Taiwan's ability to prosper, including the sale of arms but anything else is never spoken about to the Chinese. Trump has brought nothing to this relationship and now it is even more obvious that he caved to the one China policy, leaving Taiwan in the lurch.

 

[Dale Smith]

Lies and bullshit are not worth the time to rebut, or answer.

America's president just got bent over by the Chinese.

The Chinese didn't even roll out the red carpet for Barrypuppet's last visit there.....

 

[Juan de Fuca]

Lies and bullshit are not worth the time to rebut, or answer.

America's president just got bent over by the Chinese.

The Chinese didn't even roll out the red carpet for Barrypuppet's last visit there.....

Looks like they'll make Doniboi walk out the back steps too when he visits.

 

[Dale Smith]

Lies and bullshit are not worth the time to rebut, or answer.

America's president just got bent over by the Chinese.

The Chinese didn't even roll out the red carpet for Barrypuppet's last visit there.....

Looks like they make Doniboi walk out the back steps too.

Really? Trump has already made a trip to China?????? When did this happen? Do you miss the Barrypuppet???? There, there....there, there..... (pats your sloped, neanderthal skull)...........do ya want a sooooooda?

It's so wonderful to not have to hear the jug-eared queer stepping up to the podium to lie his ass off and pat himself on the back..


(snicker)

 

[owebo]

Would it be fair to nickname the president the cave man?

"President Trump told Chinese President Xi Jinping Thursday night that he will honor the “One China” policy that recognizes Beijing as the only legitimate Chinese government.

The two leaders spoke by phone Thursday night, the White House said in a release, their first phone conversation since Trump’s inauguration.



“The two leaders discussed numerous topics and President Trump agreed, at the request of President Xi, to honor our ‘one China’ policy,” the release said. “Representatives of the United States and China will engage in discussions and negotiations on various issues of mutual interest.”

Trump accepted a call from Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen after his election, breaking with the long-standing protocol. He later told the Wall Street Journal that "Everything is under negotiation, including 'One China.'"

The White House described the Thursday call as "lengthy" and "extremely cordial," and said both men had extended invites to visit their respective countries.

The release came shortly after the publication of a New York Times reportthat described China as "stung" by Trump's call with Taiwan. Officials told the Times that Xi would not agree to speak with Trump until after his public acknowledgment of the policy, which in effect cuts off official governmental ties with Taiwan.

The call comes one day before Trump is set to meet with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in Washington, after which they will play golf at Trump's Palm Beach resort."
Trump promises Chinese president he'll honor 'One China' policy

America was always last to Obama....

 

[Juan de Fuca]

Lies and bullshit are not worth the time to rebut, or answer.

America's president just got bent over by the Chinese.

The Chinese didn't even roll out the red carpet for Barrypuppet's last visit there.....

Looks like they make Doniboi walk out the back steps too.

Really? Trump has already made a trip to China?????? When did this happen? Do you miss the Barrypuppet???? There, there....there, there..... (pats your sloped, neanderthal skull)...........do ya want a sooooooda?

It's so wonderful to not have to hear the jug-eared queer stepping up to the podium to lie his ass off and pat himself on the back..


(snicker)

LOL, now we have a President who kneels for a Chinese President. "You're going to get tired of winning" LOL now it's "you're going to get tired of whining"

 

[Juan de Fuca]

Would it be fair to nickname the president the cave man?

"President Trump told Chinese President Xi Jinping Thursday night that he will honor the “One China” policy that recognizes Beijing as the only legitimate Chinese government.

The two leaders spoke by phone Thursday night, the White House said in a release, their first phone conversation since Trump’s inauguration.



“The two leaders discussed numerous topics and President Trump agreed, at the request of President Xi, to honor our ‘one China’ policy,” the release said. “Representatives of the United States and China will engage in discussions and negotiations on various issues of mutual interest.”

Trump accepted a call from Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen after his election, breaking with the long-standing protocol. He later told the Wall Street Journal that "Everything is under negotiation, including 'One China.'"

The White House described the Thursday call as "lengthy" and "extremely cordial," and said both men had extended invites to visit their respective countries.

The release came shortly after the publication of a New York Times reportthat described China as "stung" by Trump's call with Taiwan. Officials told the Times that Xi would not agree to speak with Trump until after his public acknowledgment of the policy, which in effect cuts off official governmental ties with Taiwan.

The call comes one day before Trump is set to meet with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in Washington, after which they will play golf at Trump's Palm Beach resort."
Trump promises Chinese president he'll honor 'One China' policy

America was always last to Obama....

And now it's last for Trump.

 

[owebo]

Would it be fair to nickname the president the cave man?

"President Trump told Chinese President Xi Jinping Thursday night that he will honor the “One China” policy that recognizes Beijing as the only legitimate Chinese government.

The two leaders spoke by phone Thursday night, the White House said in a release, their first phone conversation since Trump’s inauguration.



“The two leaders discussed numerous topics and President Trump agreed, at the request of President Xi, to honor our ‘one China’ policy,” the release said. “Representatives of the United States and China will engage in discussions and negotiations on various issues of mutual interest.”

Trump accepted a call from Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen after his election, breaking with the long-standing protocol. He later told the Wall Street Journal that "Everything is under negotiation, including 'One China.'"

The White House described the Thursday call as "lengthy" and "extremely cordial," and said both men had extended invites to visit their respective countries.

The release came shortly after the publication of a New York Times reportthat described China as "stung" by Trump's call with Taiwan. Officials told the Times that Xi would not agree to speak with Trump until after his public acknowledgment of the policy, which in effect cuts off official governmental ties with Taiwan.

The call comes one day before Trump is set to meet with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in Washington, after which they will play golf at Trump's Palm Beach resort."
Trump promises Chinese president he'll honor 'One China' policy

America was always last to Obama....

And now it's last for Trump.

It's refreshing see Trump take America from last place where Obama put her to first.....

 

[toomuchtime_]

Would it be fair to nickname the president the cave man?

"President Trump told Chinese President Xi Jinping Thursday night that he will honor the “One China” policy that recognizes Beijing as the only legitimate Chinese government.

The two leaders spoke by phone Thursday night, the White House said in a release, their first phone conversation since Trump’s inauguration.



“The two leaders discussed numerous topics and President Trump agreed, at the request of President Xi, to honor our ‘one China’ policy,” the release said. “Representatives of the United States and China will engage in discussions and negotiations on various issues of mutual interest.”

Trump accepted a call from Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen after his election, breaking with the long-standing protocol. He later told the Wall Street Journal that "Everything is under negotiation, including 'One China.'"

The White House described the Thursday call as "lengthy" and "extremely cordial," and said both men had extended invites to visit their respective countries.

The release came shortly after the publication of a New York Times reportthat described China as "stung" by Trump's call with Taiwan. Officials told the Times that Xi would not agree to speak with Trump until after his public acknowledgment of the policy, which in effect cuts off official governmental ties with Taiwan.

The call comes one day before Trump is set to meet with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in Washington, after which they will play golf at Trump's Palm Beach resort."
Trump promises Chinese president he'll honor 'One China' policy

Give your fevered imagination a rest. President Trump never said he was rejecting the one China policy, but that doesn't mean he will ignore Taiwan as other presidents have. There is a third way.

Yes it does. Because the "One China" policy says that the US will not deal with the Taiwan government. No American President since Nixon has taken a phone call from the Taiwanese.

As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. The One China policy is about which country will be the soul representative of the Chinese people, but that does not exclude the US having relations with the Taiwan. No one publicly accepted calls from the Taiwanese government but the US has had extensive economic dealings with the Taiwanese government, including significant arms sales that were strongly objected to by mainland China for many years. If we weren't supporting the independence of Taiwan, we wouldn't have sold them weapons over the objections of Beijing. What President Trump has done is bring some rationality to this crazy policy.

You seem to be the one confused about American policy with Taiwan. We have no diplomatic relationship at all period. We have a business relationship and that relationship is one dedicated to Taiwan's ability to prosper, including the sale of arms but anything else is never spoken about to the Chinese. Trump has brought nothing to this relationship and now it is even more obvious that he caved to the one China policy, leaving Taiwan in the lurch.

Not at all, the weapons we sell them are to defend themselves against aggression from mainland China and all weapons sales require action by Congress and the President. Since 1979, the US does have de facto diplomatic relations with Taiwan.

De facto diplomatic relations[edit]
The [Taiwan Relations] act authorizes de facto diplomatic relations with the governing authorities by giving special powers to the AIT to the level that it is the de facto embassy, and states that any international agreements made between the ROC and U.S. before 1979 are still valid unless otherwise terminated. One agreement that was unilaterally terminated by President Jimmy Carter upon the establishment of relations with the PRC was the Sino-American Mutual Defense Treaty.

The act provides for Taiwan to be treated under U.S. laws the same as "foreign countries, nations, states, governments, or similar entities". The act provides that for most practical purposes of the U.S. government, the absence of diplomatic relations and recognition will have no effect.[5]

Military provisions[edit]
The Taiwan Relations Act potentially requires the U.S. to intervene militarily if the PRC attacks or invades Taiwan. The act states that "the United States will make available to Taiwan such defense articles and defense services in such quantity as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capabilities". However, the decision about the nature and quantity of defense services that America will provide to Taiwan is to be determined by the President and Congress. America's policy has been called "strategic ambiguity" and it is designed to dissuade Taiwan from a unilateral declaration of independence, and to dissuade the PRC from unilaterally unifying Taiwan with the PRC.

The act further stipulates that the United States will "consider any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means, including by boycotts or embargoes, a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and of grave concern to the United States".

This act also requires the United States "to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character", and "to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan." Successive U.S. administrations have sold arms to Taiwan in compliance with the Taiwan Relations Act despite demands from the PRC that the U.S. follow the legally non-binding Three Joint Communiques and the U.S. government's proclaimed One-China policy (which differs from the PRC's so-called one-China principle).

Taiwan Relations Act - Wikipedia

Receiving a phone call from the Taiwanese government is perfectly consistent with existing US policy as defined by the Taiwan Relations Act, and with the US one China policy.

 

[Dale Smith]

Lies and bullshit are not worth the time to rebut, or answer.

America's president just got bent over by the Chinese.

The Chinese didn't even roll out the red carpet for Barrypuppet's last visit there.....

Looks like they make Doniboi walk out the back steps too.

Really? Trump has already made a trip to China?????? When did this happen? Do you miss the Barrypuppet???? There, there....there, there..... (pats your sloped, neanderthal skull)...........do ya want a sooooooda?

It's so wonderful to not have to hear the jug-eared queer stepping up to the podium to lie his ass off and pat himself on the back..


(snicker)

LOL, now we have a President who kneels for a Chinese President. "You're going to get tired of winning" LOL now it's "you're going to get tired of whining"

Excuse me........but could you be clearer......are you saying that the Chi-coms are not a legitimate "gubermint"???????

 

[Juan de Fuca]

Would it be fair to nickname the president the cave man?

"President Trump told Chinese President Xi Jinping Thursday night that he will honor the “One China” policy that recognizes Beijing as the only legitimate Chinese government.

The two leaders spoke by phone Thursday night, the White House said in a release, their first phone conversation since Trump’s inauguration.



“The two leaders discussed numerous topics and President Trump agreed, at the request of President Xi, to honor our ‘one China’ policy,” the release said. “Representatives of the United States and China will engage in discussions and negotiations on various issues of mutual interest.”

Trump accepted a call from Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen after his election, breaking with the long-standing protocol. He later told the Wall Street Journal that "Everything is under negotiation, including 'One China.'"

The White House described the Thursday call as "lengthy" and "extremely cordial," and said both men had extended invites to visit their respective countries.

The release came shortly after the publication of a New York Times reportthat described China as "stung" by Trump's call with Taiwan. Officials told the Times that Xi would not agree to speak with Trump until after his public acknowledgment of the policy, which in effect cuts off official governmental ties with Taiwan.

The call comes one day before Trump is set to meet with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in Washington, after which they will play golf at Trump's Palm Beach resort."
Trump promises Chinese president he'll honor 'One China' policy

America was always last to Obama....

And now it's last for Trump.

It's refreshing see Trump take America from last place where Obama put her to first.....

What? First to suck dick? He had dinner with Sheldon Adelson before he talked to the Chinese President. Adelson's wealth is concentrated in China and he will not tolerate an idiot of Trump's stature messing with his billions. Now Doniboi has two masters isn't that hilarious?

 

[Juan de Fuca]

America's president just got bent over by the Chinese.

The Chinese didn't even roll out the red carpet for Barrypuppet's last visit there.....

Looks like they make Doniboi walk out the back steps too.

Really? Trump has already made a trip to China?????? When did this happen? Do you miss the Barrypuppet???? There, there....there, there..... (pats your sloped, neanderthal skull)...........do ya want a sooooooda?

It's so wonderful to not have to hear the jug-eared queer stepping up to the podium to lie his ass off and pat himself on the back..


(snicker)

LOL, now we have a President who kneels for a Chinese President. "You're going to get tired of winning" LOL now it's "you're going to get tired of whining"

Excuse me........but could you be clearer......are you saying that the Chi-coms are not a legitimate "gubermint"???????

Where did I say they weren't?

 

[Juan de Fuca]

Would it be fair to nickname the president the cave man?

"President Trump told Chinese President Xi Jinping Thursday night that he will honor the “One China” policy that recognizes Beijing as the only legitimate Chinese government.

The two leaders spoke by phone Thursday night, the White House said in a release, their first phone conversation since Trump’s inauguration.



“The two leaders discussed numerous topics and President Trump agreed, at the request of President Xi, to honor our ‘one China’ policy,” the release said. “Representatives of the United States and China will engage in discussions and negotiations on various issues of mutual interest.”

Trump accepted a call from Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen after his election, breaking with the long-standing protocol. He later told the Wall Street Journal that "Everything is under negotiation, including 'One China.'"

The White House described the Thursday call as "lengthy" and "extremely cordial," and said both men had extended invites to visit their respective countries.

The release came shortly after the publication of a New York Times reportthat described China as "stung" by Trump's call with Taiwan. Officials told the Times that Xi would not agree to speak with Trump until after his public acknowledgment of the policy, which in effect cuts off official governmental ties with Taiwan.

The call comes one day before Trump is set to meet with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in Washington, after which they will play golf at Trump's Palm Beach resort."
Trump promises Chinese president he'll honor 'One China' policy

Give your fevered imagination a rest. President Trump never said he was rejecting the one China policy, but that doesn't mean he will ignore Taiwan as other presidents have. There is a third way.

Yes it does. Because the "One China" policy says that the US will not deal with the Taiwan government. No American President since Nixon has taken a phone call from the Taiwanese.

As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. The One China policy is about which country will be the soul representative of the Chinese people, but that does not exclude the US having relations with the Taiwan. No one publicly accepted calls from the Taiwanese government but the US has had extensive economic dealings with the Taiwanese government, including significant arms sales that were strongly objected to by mainland China for many years. If we weren't supporting the independence of Taiwan, we wouldn't have sold them weapons over the objections of Beijing. What President Trump has done is bring some rationality to this crazy policy.

You seem to be the one confused about American policy with Taiwan. We have no diplomatic relationship at all period. We have a business relationship and that relationship is one dedicated to Taiwan's ability to prosper, including the sale of arms but anything else is never spoken about to the Chinese. Trump has brought nothing to this relationship and now it is even more obvious that he caved to the one China policy, leaving Taiwan in the lurch.

Not at all, the weapons we sell them are to defend themselves against aggression from mainland China and all weapons sales require action by Congress and the President. Since 1979, the US does have de facto diplomatic relations with Taiwan.

De facto diplomatic relations[edit]
The [Taiwan Relations] act authorizes de facto diplomatic relations with the governing authorities by giving special powers to the AIT to the level that it is the de facto embassy, and states that any international agreements made between the ROC and U.S. before 1979 are still valid unless otherwise terminated. One agreement that was unilaterally terminated by President Jimmy Carter upon the establishment of relations with the PRC was the Sino-American Mutual Defense Treaty.

The act provides for Taiwan to be treated under U.S. laws the same as "foreign countries, nations, states, governments, or similar entities". The act provides that for most practical purposes of the U.S. government, the absence of diplomatic relations and recognition will have no effect.[5]

Military provisions[edit]
The Taiwan Relations Act potentially requires the U.S. to intervene militarily if the PRC attacks or invades Taiwan. The act states that "the United States will make available to Taiwan such defense articles and defense services in such quantity as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capabilities". However, the decision about the nature and quantity of defense services that America will provide to Taiwan is to be determined by the President and Congress. America's policy has been called "strategic ambiguity" and it is designed to dissuade Taiwan from a unilateral declaration of independence, and to dissuade the PRC from unilaterally unifying Taiwan with the PRC.

The act further stipulates that the United States will "consider any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means, including by boycotts or embargoes, a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and of grave concern to the United States".

This act also requires the United States "to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character", and "to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan." Successive U.S. administrations have sold arms to Taiwan in compliance with the Taiwan Relations Act despite demands from the PRC that the U.S. follow the legally non-binding Three Joint Communiques and the U.S. government's proclaimed One-China policy (which differs from the PRC's so-called one-China principle).

Taiwan Relations Act - Wikipedia

Receiving a phone call from the Taiwanese government is perfectly consistent with existing US policy as defined by the Taiwan Relations Act, and with the US one China policy.

Thanks for your cut and paste.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Give your fevered imagination a rest. President Trump never said he was rejecting the one China policy, but that doesn't mean he will ignore Taiwan as other presidents have. There is a third way.

Yes it does. Because the "One China" policy says that the US will not deal with the Taiwan government. No American President since Nixon has taken a phone call from the Taiwanese.

As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. The One China policy is about which country will be the soul representative of the Chinese people, but that does not exclude the US having relations with the Taiwan. No one publicly accepted calls from the Taiwanese government but the US has had extensive economic dealings with the Taiwanese government, including significant arms sales that were strongly objected to by mainland China for many years. If we weren't supporting the independence of Taiwan, we wouldn't have sold them weapons over the objections of Beijing. What President Trump has done is bring some rationality to this crazy policy.

You seem to be the one confused about American policy with Taiwan. We have no diplomatic relationship at all period. We have a business relationship and that relationship is one dedicated to Taiwan's ability to prosper, including the sale of arms but anything else is never spoken about to the Chinese. Trump has brought nothing to this relationship and now it is even more obvious that he caved to the one China policy, leaving Taiwan in the lurch.

Not at all, the weapons we sell them are to defend themselves against aggression from mainland China and all weapons sales require action by Congress and the President. Since 1979, the US does have de facto diplomatic relations with Taiwan.

De facto diplomatic relations[edit]
The [Taiwan Relations] act authorizes de facto diplomatic relations with the governing authorities by giving special powers to the AIT to the level that it is the de facto embassy, and states that any international agreements made between the ROC and U.S. before 1979 are still valid unless otherwise terminated. One agreement that was unilaterally terminated by President Jimmy Carter upon the establishment of relations with the PRC was the Sino-American Mutual Defense Treaty.

The act provides for Taiwan to be treated under U.S. laws the same as "foreign countries, nations, states, governments, or similar entities". The act provides that for most practical purposes of the U.S. government, the absence of diplomatic relations and recognition will have no effect.[5]

Military provisions[edit]
The Taiwan Relations Act potentially requires the U.S. to intervene militarily if the PRC attacks or invades Taiwan. The act states that "the United States will make available to Taiwan such defense articles and defense services in such quantity as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capabilities". However, the decision about the nature and quantity of defense services that America will provide to Taiwan is to be determined by the President and Congress. America's policy has been called "strategic ambiguity" and it is designed to dissuade Taiwan from a unilateral declaration of independence, and to dissuade the PRC from unilaterally unifying Taiwan with the PRC.

The act further stipulates that the United States will "consider any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means, including by boycotts or embargoes, a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and of grave concern to the United States".

This act also requires the United States "to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character", and "to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan." Successive U.S. administrations have sold arms to Taiwan in compliance with the Taiwan Relations Act despite demands from the PRC that the U.S. follow the legally non-binding Three Joint Communiques and the U.S. government's proclaimed One-China policy (which differs from the PRC's so-called one-China principle).

Taiwan Relations Act - Wikipedia

Receiving a phone call from the Taiwanese government is perfectly consistent with existing US policy as defined by the Taiwan Relations Act, and with the US one China policy.

Thanks for your cut and paste.

It makes clear just how ignorant you are about this issue.

 

[Dale Smith]

Would it be fair to nickname the president the cave man?

"President Trump told Chinese President Xi Jinping Thursday night that he will honor the “One China” policy that recognizes Beijing as the only legitimate Chinese government.

The two leaders spoke by phone Thursday night, the White House said in a release, their first phone conversation since Trump’s inauguration.



“The two leaders discussed numerous topics and President Trump agreed, at the request of President Xi, to honor our ‘one China’ policy,” the release said. “Representatives of the United States and China will engage in discussions and negotiations on various issues of mutual interest.”

Trump accepted a call from Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen after his election, breaking with the long-standing protocol. He later told the Wall Street Journal that "Everything is under negotiation, including 'One China.'"

The White House described the Thursday call as "lengthy" and "extremely cordial," and said both men had extended invites to visit their respective countries.

The release came shortly after the publication of a New York Times reportthat described China as "stung" by Trump's call with Taiwan. Officials told the Times that Xi would not agree to speak with Trump until after his public acknowledgment of the policy, which in effect cuts off official governmental ties with Taiwan.

The call comes one day before Trump is set to meet with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in Washington, after which they will play golf at Trump's Palm Beach resort."
Trump promises Chinese president he'll honor 'One China' policy

America was always last to Obama....

And now it's last for Trump.

It's refreshing see Trump take America from last place where Obama put her to first.....

What? First to suck dick? He had dinner with Sheldon Adelson before he talked to the Chinese President. Adelson's wealth is concentrated in China and he will not tolerate an idiot of Trump's stature messing with his billions. No Doniboi has two masters isn't that hilarious?

WOW! That sounds like a conspiracy theory and according to the leftard clown posse? They are not even possible!!!

 

[Juan de Fuca]

Yes it does. Because the "One China" policy says that the US will not deal with the Taiwan government. No American President since Nixon has taken a phone call from the Taiwanese.

As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. The One China policy is about which country will be the soul representative of the Chinese people, but that does not exclude the US having relations with the Taiwan. No one publicly accepted calls from the Taiwanese government but the US has had extensive economic dealings with the Taiwanese government, including significant arms sales that were strongly objected to by mainland China for many years. If we weren't supporting the independence of Taiwan, we wouldn't have sold them weapons over the objections of Beijing. What President Trump has done is bring some rationality to this crazy policy.

You seem to be the one confused about American policy with Taiwan. We have no diplomatic relationship at all period. We have a business relationship and that relationship is one dedicated to Taiwan's ability to prosper, including the sale of arms but anything else is never spoken about to the Chinese. Trump has brought nothing to this relationship and now it is even more obvious that he caved to the one China policy, leaving Taiwan in the lurch.

Not at all, the weapons we sell them are to defend themselves against aggression from mainland China and all weapons sales require action by Congress and the President. Since 1979, the US does have de facto diplomatic relations with Taiwan.

De facto diplomatic relations[edit]
The [Taiwan Relations] act authorizes de facto diplomatic relations with the governing authorities by giving special powers to the AIT to the level that it is the de facto embassy, and states that any international agreements made between the ROC and U.S. before 1979 are still valid unless otherwise terminated. One agreement that was unilaterally terminated by President Jimmy Carter upon the establishment of relations with the PRC was the Sino-American Mutual Defense Treaty.

The act provides for Taiwan to be treated under U.S. laws the same as "foreign countries, nations, states, governments, or similar entities". The act provides that for most practical purposes of the U.S. government, the absence of diplomatic relations and recognition will have no effect.[5]

Military provisions[edit]
The Taiwan Relations Act potentially requires the U.S. to intervene militarily if the PRC attacks or invades Taiwan. The act states that "the United States will make available to Taiwan such defense articles and defense services in such quantity as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capabilities". However, the decision about the nature and quantity of defense services that America will provide to Taiwan is to be determined by the President and Congress. America's policy has been called "strategic ambiguity" and it is designed to dissuade Taiwan from a unilateral declaration of independence, and to dissuade the PRC from unilaterally unifying Taiwan with the PRC.

The act further stipulates that the United States will "consider any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means, including by boycotts or embargoes, a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and of grave concern to the United States".

This act also requires the United States "to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character", and "to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan." Successive U.S. administrations have sold arms to Taiwan in compliance with the Taiwan Relations Act despite demands from the PRC that the U.S. follow the legally non-binding Three Joint Communiques and the U.S. government's proclaimed One-China policy (which differs from the PRC's so-called one-China principle).

Taiwan Relations Act - Wikipedia

Receiving a phone call from the Taiwanese government is perfectly consistent with existing US policy as defined by the Taiwan Relations Act, and with the US one China policy.

Thanks for your cut and paste.

It makes clear just how ignorant you are about this issue.

Wow, you got all that from a cut and paste? You're as unqualified to comment on this thread as Trump is as president.

 

[Juan de Fuca]

Would it be fair to nickname the president the cave man?

"President Trump told Chinese President Xi Jinping Thursday night that he will honor the “One China” policy that recognizes Beijing as the only legitimate Chinese government.

The two leaders spoke by phone Thursday night, the White House said in a release, their first phone conversation since Trump’s inauguration.



“The two leaders discussed numerous topics and President Trump agreed, at the request of President Xi, to honor our ‘one China’ policy,” the release said. “Representatives of the United States and China will engage in discussions and negotiations on various issues of mutual interest.”

Trump accepted a call from Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen after his election, breaking with the long-standing protocol. He later told the Wall Street Journal that "Everything is under negotiation, including 'One China.'"

The White House described the Thursday call as "lengthy" and "extremely cordial," and said both men had extended invites to visit their respective countries.

The release came shortly after the publication of a New York Times reportthat described China as "stung" by Trump's call with Taiwan. Officials told the Times that Xi would not agree to speak with Trump until after his public acknowledgment of the policy, which in effect cuts off official governmental ties with Taiwan.

The call comes one day before Trump is set to meet with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in Washington, after which they will play golf at Trump's Palm Beach resort."
Trump promises Chinese president he'll honor 'One China' policy

America was always last to Obama....

And now it's last for Trump.

It's refreshing see Trump take America from last place where Obama put her to first.....

What? First to suck dick? He had dinner with Sheldon Adelson before he talked to the Chinese President. Adelson's wealth is concentrated in China and he will not tolerate an idiot of Trump's stature messing with his billions. No Doniboi has two masters isn't that hilarious?

WOW! That sounds like a conspiracy theory and according to the leftard clown posse? They are not even possible!!!

I would give anything to have heard that phone call. I bet it was exactly like the SNL phone call to the president of Zimbabwe.

 

[Dale Smith]

As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. The One China policy is about which country will be the soul representative of the Chinese people, but that does not exclude the US having relations with the Taiwan. No one publicly accepted calls from the Taiwanese government but the US has had extensive economic dealings with the Taiwanese government, including significant arms sales that were strongly objected to by mainland China for many years. If we weren't supporting the independence of Taiwan, we wouldn't have sold them weapons over the objections of Beijing. What President Trump has done is bring some rationality to this crazy policy.

You seem to be the one confused about American policy with Taiwan. We have no diplomatic relationship at all period. We have a business relationship and that relationship is one dedicated to Taiwan's ability to prosper, including the sale of arms but anything else is never spoken about to the Chinese. Trump has brought nothing to this relationship and now it is even more obvious that he caved to the one China policy, leaving Taiwan in the lurch.

Not at all, the weapons we sell them are to defend themselves against aggression from mainland China and all weapons sales require action by Congress and the President. Since 1979, the US does have de facto diplomatic relations with Taiwan.

De facto diplomatic relations[edit]
The [Taiwan Relations] act authorizes de facto diplomatic relations with the governing authorities by giving special powers to the AIT to the level that it is the de facto embassy, and states that any international agreements made between the ROC and U.S. before 1979 are still valid unless otherwise terminated. One agreement that was unilaterally terminated by President Jimmy Carter upon the establishment of relations with the PRC was the Sino-American Mutual Defense Treaty.

The act provides for Taiwan to be treated under U.S. laws the same as "foreign countries, nations, states, governments, or similar entities". The act provides that for most practical purposes of the U.S. government, the absence of diplomatic relations and recognition will have no effect.[5]

Military provisions[edit]
The Taiwan Relations Act potentially requires the U.S. to intervene militarily if the PRC attacks or invades Taiwan. The act states that "the United States will make available to Taiwan such defense articles and defense services in such quantity as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capabilities". However, the decision about the nature and quantity of defense services that America will provide to Taiwan is to be determined by the President and Congress. America's policy has been called "strategic ambiguity" and it is designed to dissuade Taiwan from a unilateral declaration of independence, and to dissuade the PRC from unilaterally unifying Taiwan with the PRC.

The act further stipulates that the United States will "consider any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means, including by boycotts or embargoes, a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and of grave concern to the United States".

This act also requires the United States "to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character", and "to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan." Successive U.S. administrations have sold arms to Taiwan in compliance with the Taiwan Relations Act despite demands from the PRC that the U.S. follow the legally non-binding Three Joint Communiques and the U.S. government's proclaimed One-China policy (which differs from the PRC's so-called one-China principle).

Taiwan Relations Act - Wikipedia

Receiving a phone call from the Taiwanese government is perfectly consistent with existing US policy as defined by the Taiwan Relations Act, and with the US one China policy.

Thanks for your cut and paste.

It makes clear just how ignorant you are about this issue.

Wow, you got all that from a cut and paste? You're as unqualified to comment on this thread as Trump is as president.

So what you are saying is that only a commie like the Clinton clan and the Barrypuppet were qualified to be CEO of USA.INC....correct? You are a socialist if not an outright commie....aren't ya? You can be honest....we are all friends here. Be "loud and proud".........it's all good.


(snicker)

 

[Dale Smith]

America was always last to Obama....

And now it's last for Trump.

It's refreshing see Trump take America from last place where Obama put her to first.....

What? First to suck dick? He had dinner with Sheldon Adelson before he talked to the Chinese President. Adelson's wealth is concentrated in China and he will not tolerate an idiot of Trump's stature messing with his billions. No Doniboi has two masters isn't that hilarious?

WOW! That sounds like a conspiracy theory and according to the leftard clown posse? They are not even possible!!!

I would give anything to have heard that phone call. I bet it was exactly like the SNL phone call to the president of Zimbabwe.

The multi-syllable words would have confused you.......

 

[Juan de Fuca]

You seem to be the one confused about American policy with Taiwan. We have no diplomatic relationship at all period. We have a business relationship and that relationship is one dedicated to Taiwan's ability to prosper, including the sale of arms but anything else is never spoken about to the Chinese. Trump has brought nothing to this relationship and now it is even more obvious that he caved to the one China policy, leaving Taiwan in the lurch.

Not at all, the weapons we sell them are to defend themselves against aggression from mainland China and all weapons sales require action by Congress and the President. Since 1979, the US does have de facto diplomatic relations with Taiwan.

De facto diplomatic relations[edit]
The [Taiwan Relations] act authorizes de facto diplomatic relations with the governing authorities by giving special powers to the AIT to the level that it is the de facto embassy, and states that any international agreements made between the ROC and U.S. before 1979 are still valid unless otherwise terminated. One agreement that was unilaterally terminated by President Jimmy Carter upon the establishment of relations with the PRC was the Sino-American Mutual Defense Treaty.

The act provides for Taiwan to be treated under U.S. laws the same as "foreign countries, nations, states, governments, or similar entities". The act provides that for most practical purposes of the U.S. government, the absence of diplomatic relations and recognition will have no effect.[5]

Military provisions[edit]
The Taiwan Relations Act potentially requires the U.S. to intervene militarily if the PRC attacks or invades Taiwan. The act states that "the United States will make available to Taiwan such defense articles and defense services in such quantity as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capabilities". However, the decision about the nature and quantity of defense services that America will provide to Taiwan is to be determined by the President and Congress. America's policy has been called "strategic ambiguity" and it is designed to dissuade Taiwan from a unilateral declaration of independence, and to dissuade the PRC from unilaterally unifying Taiwan with the PRC.

The act further stipulates that the United States will "consider any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means, including by boycotts or embargoes, a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and of grave concern to the United States".

This act also requires the United States "to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character", and "to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan." Successive U.S. administrations have sold arms to Taiwan in compliance with the Taiwan Relations Act despite demands from the PRC that the U.S. follow the legally non-binding Three Joint Communiques and the U.S. government's proclaimed One-China policy (which differs from the PRC's so-called one-China principle).

Taiwan Relations Act - Wikipedia

Receiving a phone call from the Taiwanese government is perfectly consistent with existing US policy as defined by the Taiwan Relations Act, and with the US one China policy.

Thanks for your cut and paste.

It makes clear just how ignorant you are about this issue.

Wow, you got all that from a cut and paste? You're as unqualified to comment on this thread as Trump is as president.

So what you are saying is that only a commie like the Clinton clan and the Barrypuppet were qualified to be CEO of USA.INC....correct? You are a socialist if not an outright commie....aren't ya? You can be honest....we are all friends here. Be "loud and proud".........it's all good.


(snicker)

Dale, put the bottle away and go to bed. You're embarrassing yourself.