An opportunity for change. An opportunity to help all blacks and minorities. An opportunity to help the police.

White conservatives are obsessed with Communism, just as Black liberals are obsessed with white supremacy.
I think we should all be obsessed with the chinese communist party under zi xiping instead of fighting among ourselves

because he’s the new hitler of the 21st Century
 
An opportunity for change. An opportunity to help all blacks and minorities. An opportunity to help the police. An opportunity to help ourselves.
It is time for us all get behind the many good police to help them in a very difficult job and to help black people receive equal justice.
Both groups, police and blacks, have bad individuals in their group, as do all groups and demographics. We cannot define either group by the worst among them nor should we defend the worst among each group.
Policing needs to be changed to help the police, blacks and all minorities. That will be best for all Americans.
opportunity...
Lots of opportunities for minorities when trespassers are hired in their place.
You Liberals are stupid beyond logic.

People with jobs have less of a reason to commit crimes.
 
An opportunity for change. An opportunity to help all blacks and minorities. An opportunity to help the police. An opportunity to help ourselves.
It is time for us all get behind the many good police to help them in a very difficult job and to help black people receive equal justice.
Both groups, police and blacks, have bad individuals in their group, as do all groups and demographics. We cannot define either group by the worst among them nor should we defend the worst among each group.
Policing needs to be changed to help the police, blacks and all minorities. That will be best for all Americans.
How about black men stop resisting arrest? Oh, that's right, they have never had a father figure in the home because they are in prison for being a piece of shit.
 
White conservatives are obsessed with Communism, just as Black liberals are obsessed with white supremacy.
I think we should all be obsessed with the chinese communist party under zi xiping instead of fighting among ourselves
If you can figure out how to organize that, then you will win the big prize!

My argument is that the government is supposed to be able to do that, but the subsisting government model is inadequate for the diversity that the nation has evolved to and that we need to go over it all, and fix it using the technology we have that they did not have - constitutional convention. But brilliant people, like you, seem to think that there is some kind of magical way of saying things that will get people to stop fighting and then solve the problems.

Did you not read the messages that prompted the message that you responded to?

It was about a constitutional convention - how else do you propose we stop fighting and get together and solve the problems?
 
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An opportunity for change. An opportunity to help all blacks and minorities. An opportunity to help the police. An opportunity to help ourselves.
It is time for us all get behind the many good police to help them in a very difficult job and to help black people receive equal justice.
Both groups, police and blacks, have bad individuals in their group, as do all groups and demographics. We cannot define either group by the worst among them nor should we defend the worst among each group.
Policing needs to be changed to help the police, blacks and all minorities. That will be best for all Americans.
How about black men stop resisting arrest? Oh, that's right, they have never had a father figure in the home because they are in prison for being a piece of shit.

Lots of times resisting arrest is not only justified, but a civic duty.
There are many laws that are not legal and police are criminals when they enforce them.
Examples are, the War on Drugs, 3 Strikes, federal gun control, asset forfeiture, etc.
I have started hanging an air freshener from my rear view mirror now with the intent of resisting if a cop ever even mentions it.
The police have gone way too far and we would be better of without them if they do not change.
 
White conservatives are obsessed with Communism, just as Black liberals are obsessed with white supremacy.
I think we should all be obsessed with the chinese communist party under zi xiping instead of fighting among ourselves
If you can figure out how to organize that, then you will win the big prize!

My argument is that the government is supposed to be able to do that, but the subsisting government model is inadequate for the diversity that the nation has evolved to and that we need to go over it all, and fix it using the technology we have that they did not have - constitutional convention. But brilliant people, like you, seem to think that there is some kind of magical way of saying things that will get people to stop fighting and then solve the problems.

Did you not read the messages that prompted the message that you responded to?

It was about a constitutional convention - how else do you propose we stop fighting and get together and solve the problems?

The problem with constitutional conventions is that the likely result is even more laws, more government, and more corruption.
What we need is the opposite, with less government, fewer laws, and likely police should be disarmed.
 
An opportunity for change. An opportunity to help all blacks and minorities. An opportunity to help the police. An opportunity to help ourselves.
It is time for us all get behind the many good police to help them in a very difficult job and to help black people receive equal justice.
Both groups, police and blacks, have bad individuals in their group, as do all groups and demographics. We cannot define either group by the worst among them nor should we defend the worst among each group.
Policing needs to be changed to help the police, blacks and all minorities. That will be best for all Americans.

Specifically how does policing need to change to help everyone?
 
An opportunity for change. An opportunity to help all blacks and minorities. An opportunity to help the police. An opportunity to help ourselves.
It is time for us all get behind the many good police to help them in a very difficult job and to help black people receive equal justice.
Both groups, police and blacks, have bad individuals in their group, as do all groups and demographics. We cannot define either group by the worst among them nor should we defend the worst among each group.
Policing needs to be changed to help the police, blacks and all minorities. That will be best for all Americans.
How about black men stop resisting arrest? Oh, that's right, they have never had a father figure in the home because they are in prison for being a piece of shit.

Lots of times resisting arrest is not only justified, but a civic duty.
There are many laws that are not legal and police are criminals when they enforce them.
Examples are, the War on Drugs, 3 Strikes, federal gun control, asset forfeiture, etc.
I have started hanging an air freshener from my rear view mirror now with the intent of resisting if a cop ever even mentions it.
The police have gone way too far and we would be better of without them if they do not change.
No it is not. It leads to accidental shootings when a good law enforcement officer reaches for a taser and draws a gun. Piece of shit had choked a girl out and stole $850 dollars from her and had an outstanding warrant. Just as 99.99% of the scumbags that resist arrest do. Police do not go out of their way to harass innocent people. You are a communist of the highest order.
 
An opportunity for change. An opportunity to help all blacks and minorities. An opportunity to help the police. An opportunity to help ourselves.
It is time for us all get behind the many good police to help them in a very difficult job and to help black people receive equal justice.
Both groups, police and blacks, have bad individuals in their group, as do all groups and demographics. We cannot define either group by the worst among them nor should we defend the worst among each group.
Policing needs to be changed to help the police, blacks and all minorities. That will be best for all Americans.

Specifically how does policing need to change to help everyone?

Well for starters, the police could stop enforcing illegal laws, like the War on Drugs.
That is really what they illegally searched Floyd's car over and that is what started the death.
The $20 really was insignificant and not even a crime any more.
 
An opportunity for change. An opportunity to help all blacks and minorities. An opportunity to help the police. An opportunity to help ourselves.
It is time for us all get behind the many good police to help them in a very difficult job and to help black people receive equal justice.
Both groups, police and blacks, have bad individuals in their group, as do all groups and demographics. We cannot define either group by the worst among them nor should we defend the worst among each group.
Policing needs to be changed to help the police, blacks and all minorities. That will be best for all Americans.
How about black men stop resisting arrest? Oh, that's right, they have never had a father figure in the home because they are in prison for being a piece of shit.

Lots of times resisting arrest is not only justified, but a civic duty.
There are many laws that are not legal and police are criminals when they enforce them.
Examples are, the War on Drugs, 3 Strikes, federal gun control, asset forfeiture, etc.
I have started hanging an air freshener from my rear view mirror now with the intent of resisting if a cop ever even mentions it.
The police have gone way too far and we would be better of without them if they do not change.
No it is not. It leads to accidental shootings when a good law enforcement officer reaches for a taser and draws a gun. Piece of shit had choked a girl out and stole $850 dollars from her and had an outstanding warrant. Just as 99.99% of the scumbags that resist arrest do. Police do not go out of their way to harass innocent people. You are a communist of the highest order.

No such thing as an "accidental shooting".
I have never had one, and anyone with half a brain never has one.
When you shoot someone unarmed, that is not an accident, but murder.
The problem is police like arresting anyone any time, because it it one of their sources of revenue.
And 99% of the time, the police likely should not be arresting anyone.
Like the illegal War on Drugs, gun control, 3 strikes law, asset forfeiture, etc.
 
An opportunity for change. An opportunity to help all blacks and minorities. An opportunity to help the police. An opportunity to help ourselves.
It is time for us all get behind the many good police to help them in a very difficult job and to help black people receive equal justice.
Both groups, police and blacks, have bad individuals in their group, as do all groups and demographics. We cannot define either group by the worst among them nor should we defend the worst among each group.
Policing needs to be changed to help the police, blacks and all minorities. That will be best for all Americans.
Policing doesn't need to change. Blacks need to learn to obey the law.
Policing needs to change to help policeman as much as helping other problems.
Neanderthal, reactionaries like you are scared shitless about change. That is why you live a pathetic life.
 
An opportunity for change. An opportunity to help all blacks and minorities. An opportunity to help the police. An opportunity to help ourselves.
It is time for us all get behind the many good police to help them in a very difficult job and to help black people receive equal justice.
Both groups, police and blacks, have bad individuals in their group, as do all groups and demographics. We cannot define either group by the worst among them nor should we defend the worst among each group.
Policing needs to be changed to help the police, blacks and all minorities. That will be best for all Americans.
Policing doesn't need to change. Blacks need to learn to obey the law.
Policing needs to change to help policeman as much as helping other problems.
Neanderthal, reactionaries like you are scared shitless about change. That is why you live a pathetic life.
Shooting someone attempting to murder an innocent person is "Neanderthal?"
 
The OP was reasonable, yours is not.
The op may not have intended to but he ended up putting responsibility for change on the police

they are just doing their job by responding to the criminal antics of black people
The police are like all of society, there is baked in racism. The problem with police, it can have bigger consequences. The problem requires everyone to act different. It takes everyone to try and understand what others are going through. Those with the most power can do the most good and the most harm. In this scenario, it is the police. They are put in difficult situations in dealing with the mentally ill, domestic violence, drugged out people. They need more help and instructions in dealing with these groups. We do not need police who are attracted to policing to push others around. They are out there.
So you believe that if the police were more sensitive to the insecurities of black people then black criminals would respond by quietly allowing themselves to be arrested?

surely you jest
The key is to treat blacks like everyone else. All whites need to examine their prejudices against blacks and other minorities. It is baked into our culture. Blacks to have prejudices and much they can do to help themselves. But as whites dominating our culture, we need to do our best to eliminate the prejudices that are built into our culture. To many whites say, "blacks are not slaves, they can vote, what do they have to complain about". We all know that is ridiculous.
Our country was started by WHITE people who were frustrated that they were being discriminated against by other WHITE people. We should understand white discrimination.
White Americans are the least prejudiced toward other races than any other group of people on the planet

first 30% of whites are guilt-ridden libs who would sacrifice their own children in the name of black advancement

then there are roughly 40% who are completely agnostic about race

they dont much care about black people one way or the other and will go with the flow whetever it leads

which leaves the 30% who are not traumatized by the alleged suffering and mistreatment of blacks

and are most certainly not willing to sacrifice their children for the advancement of colored people

speaking only for myself 90% of the alleged murders of black people at the hands of the police were not murders at all but simply the police doing their job

If I acted the way these black martyrs act the police would have shot me long ago

its crazy the way too many black people act

really insane

but to say that to you makes me a racist in minds of many on the left
White Americans are the least prejudiced toward other races than any other group of people on the planet
That is a statement of an idiot. As a white man, I know being white's benefits I have are not shared by minorities. That is because of prejudice of many whites. Trump white minions are screeching like pigs because they are losing their white benefits in the new world.
 
An opportunity for change. An opportunity to help all blacks and minorities. An opportunity to help the police. An opportunity to help ourselves.
It is time for us all get behind the many good police to help them in a very difficult job and to help black people receive equal justice.
Both groups, police and blacks, have bad individuals in their group, as do all groups and demographics. We cannot define either group by the worst among them nor should we defend the worst among each group.
Policing needs to be changed to help the police, blacks and all minorities. That will be best for all Americans.
Policing doesn't need to change. Blacks need to learn to obey the law.
Policing needs to change to help policeman as much as helping other problems.
Neanderthal, reactionaries like you are scared shitless about change. That is why you live a pathetic life.
Shooting someone attempting to murder an innocent person is "Neanderthal?"
Neanderthals did not have guns, dumbass. Every statement you make exposes your stupidity.
But the police shooting of the young girl attacking with a knife cannot be equated to the George Floyd case.
 
An opportunity for change. An opportunity to help all blacks and minorities. An opportunity to help the police. An opportunity to help ourselves.
It is time for us all get behind the many good police to help them in a very difficult job and to help black people receive equal justice.
Both groups, police and blacks, have bad individuals in their group, as do all groups and demographics. We cannot define either group by the worst among them nor should we defend the worst among each group.
Policing needs to be changed to help the police, blacks and all minorities. That will be best for all Americans.
opportunity...
Lots of opportunities for minorities when trespassers are hired in their place.
You Liberals are stupid beyond logic.

People with jobs have less of a reason to commit crimes.
A large amount of Trump supporters are unemployed or under employed. Let's get their sorry asses to work.
 
An opportunity for change. An opportunity to help all blacks and minorities. An opportunity to help the police. An opportunity to help ourselves.
It is time for us all get behind the many good police to help them in a very difficult job and to help black people receive equal justice.
Both groups, police and blacks, have bad individuals in their group, as do all groups and demographics. We cannot define either group by the worst among them nor should we defend the worst among each group.
Policing needs to be changed to help the police, blacks and all minorities. That will be best for all Americans.
Policing doesn't need to change. Blacks need to learn to obey the law.
Policing needs to change to help policeman as much as helping other problems.
Neanderthal, reactionaries like you are scared shitless about change. That is why you live a pathetic life.
Shooting someone attempting to murder an innocent person is "Neanderthal?"
Neanderthals did not have guns, dumbass. Everything statement you make exposes your stupidity.
But the police shooting of the young girl attacking with a knife cannot be equated to the George Floyd case.
You're the one who used the term Neanderthal, you fucking dumbass.

Who equated it to the George Floyd case?

You're 0-2 when it comes to using logic.
 
An opportunity for change. An opportunity to help all blacks and minorities. An opportunity to help the police. An opportunity to help ourselves.
It is time for us all get behind the many good police to help them in a very difficult job and to help black people receive equal justice.
Both groups, police and blacks, have bad individuals in their group, as do all groups and demographics. We cannot define either group by the worst among them nor should we defend the worst among each group.
Policing needs to be changed to help the police, blacks and all minorities. That will be best for all Americans.
Policing doesn't need to change. Blacks need to learn to obey the law.
Policing needs to change to help policeman as much as helping other problems.
Neanderthal, reactionaries like you are scared shitless about change. That is why you live a pathetic life.
Shooting someone attempting to murder an innocent person is "Neanderthal?"

I would not criticize the shooting in this defense against knife situation, but I don't think it was optimal either.
With better training, more community involvement, etc., I think we could achieve better results.
If nothing else, I think there would be fewer deaths is police went with the international .380, fully jacketed,
And one shot even then would have been more than sufficient.
 
The OP was reasonable, yours is not.
The op may not have intended to but he ended up putting responsibility for change on the police

they are just doing their job by responding to the criminal antics of black people
The police are like all of society, there is baked in racism. The problem with police, it can have bigger consequences. The problem requires everyone to act different. It takes everyone to try and understand what others are going through. Those with the most power can do the most good and the most harm. In this scenario, it is the police. They are put in difficult situations in dealing with the mentally ill, domestic violence, drugged out people. They need more help and instructions in dealing with these groups. We do not need police who are attracted to policing to push others around. They are out there.
So you believe that if the police were more sensitive to the insecurities of black people then black criminals would respond by quietly allowing themselves to be arrested?

surely you jest
The key is to treat blacks like everyone else. All whites need to examine their prejudices against blacks and other minorities. It is baked into our culture. Blacks to have prejudices and much they can do to help themselves. But as whites dominating our culture, we need to do our best to eliminate the prejudices that are built into our culture. To many whites say, "blacks are not slaves, they can vote, what do they have to complain about". We all know that is ridiculous.
Our country was started by WHITE people who were frustrated that they were being discriminated against by other WHITE people. We should understand white discrimination.
White Americans are the least prejudiced toward other races than any other group of people on the planet

first 30% of whites are guilt-ridden libs who would sacrifice their own children in the name of black advancement

then there are roughly 40% who are completely agnostic about race

they dont much care about black people one way or the other and will go with the flow whetever it leads

which leaves the 30% who are not traumatized by the alleged suffering and mistreatment of blacks

and are most certainly not willing to sacrifice their children for the advancement of colored people

speaking only for myself 90% of the alleged murders of black people at the hands of the police were not murders at all but simply the police doing their job

If I acted the way these black martyrs act the police would have shot me long ago

its crazy the way too many black people act

really insane

but to say that to you makes me a racist in minds of many on the left
White Americans are the least prejudiced toward other races than any other group of people on the planet
That is a statement of an idiot. As a white man, I know being white's benefits I have are not shared by minorities. That is because of prejudice of many whites. Trump white minions are screeching like pigs because they are losing their white benefits in the new world.

Reading history is often very illuminating.
I did not understand discrimination until I read about how badly northern Europeans were treated by Romans.
Blond hair and blue eyes were heavily discriminated against.
Romans were highly civilized while northern Europe was living in mud huts.
And Romans were decidedly "olive" in complexion, compared to the pale northern Europeans.
 
An opportunity for change. An opportunity to help all blacks and minorities. An opportunity to help the police. An opportunity to help ourselves.
It is time for us all get behind the many good police to help them in a very difficult job and to help black people receive equal justice.
Both groups, police and blacks, have bad individuals in their group, as do all groups and demographics. We cannot define either group by the worst among them nor should we defend the worst among each group.
Policing needs to be changed to help the police, blacks and all minorities. That will be best for all Americans.
Policing doesn't need to change. Blacks need to learn to obey the law.
Policing needs to change to help policeman as much as helping other problems.
Neanderthal, reactionaries like you are scared shitless about change. That is why you live a pathetic life.
Shooting someone attempting to murder an innocent person is "Neanderthal?"
Neanderthals did not have guns, dumbass. Everything statement you make exposes your stupidity.
But the police shooting of the young girl attacking with a knife cannot be equated to the George Floyd case.
You're the one who used the term Neanderthal, you fucking dumbass.

Who equated it to the George Floyd case?

You're 0-2 when it comes to using logic.
Bripat, I know you are very dumb so I will type very slow so you might understand. I compared Neanderthal to YOU. You do not fit in today's world by your own admission. You continually complain about today's world. You would fit better in the world of Neanderthals. You would be happier. You may even be considered an intellect in the Neanderthal world.
 

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