Another Black Loser Gets Shot By Police - Jacob Blake Deserved What He Got

[basquebromance]

how badly does Godboy and his underlings on this thread want to say the N word? they just can't!

 

[Orangecat]

Then what did you mean by that you think blacks are scary? It seems to speak for itself. Sounds like prejudice to me

Liberals always project their own fears, ignorance, incompetence, and racism on others. They lack the cognitive ability to realize not everyone shares their flaws.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Cops for years got away with breaking the law. Turn about is fair play.

So you think just because some cops in the past did wrong things it justifies attacking other innocent cops today? You are the epitome of an idiot.

Absolutely not. That's why it's so important to weed out the cops who can't do the job without killing unarmed people.

You keep ignoring it, but it's a flash second to grab a gun and shoot a cop dead. You keep ignoring that.

Nope. Already answered you. The cops should have never let him open the door to his car. They fucked up. Now their facing attempted murder charges. Which is really, kind of unfair. Clearly their training didn't prepare them for this.

Why shouldn't they have allowed him to open his door?

Kaz is making excuses for shooting him seven times, in the back, at point blank range, in front of his children. He claims the cops thought he was reaching for a gun.

There's nothing at all wrong with him opening his door, unless he was going for a gun. If that's what the cops were worried bout, they should have never let him open the door. Kaz is just dancing. Anything to defend the home team.

When you say things like "in front of his children" you show that you're appealing to emotion, not logic.

Why did he defy cops in front of his children? What a terrible example that was

Again, why was he not allowed to get in his car and leave?

Because the police discovered that there was a warrant for his arrest...

When? How? He had no obligation to tell them anything. He had committed no crime.

Yes, he did. There was an open warrant out for his arrest which had absolutely nothing to do with this incident...

He had committed no crime in breaking up a fight. He is free to leave.

That's what the cops had to sort out. Being in the middle of a fight is clearly probable cause

Breaking up a fight is not illegal. The police are not providing any sort of alternative situation. They do when it tends to exonerate them. They don't when it doesn't.

And if the cops did something wrong, then he should follow up later. Not ignore them and put them in a life threatening situation by going into his car where they can't see what's going on

None of the cops lives were threatened.

Not yet and we know that you prefer the requirement to be the criminal draws and fires first before the police can respond

Not yet and we know that you prefer the requirement to be the criminal draws and fires first before the police can respond

Or just a simple rule of engagement that lethal force only be used as a last resort when an actual threat is present and not a perceived or imagined threat. The three officers did nothing to physically restrain or prevent what happened. The had no control of the scene. But maybe that was by design. Innocence by incompetence.

Did you see a longer clip that showed that or did you pull it out of your ass? You can't conclude that from the clip in the OP, insufficient evidence

Did you see a longer clip that showed that or did you pull it out of your ass? You can't conclude that from the clip in the OP, insufficient evidence

Which officer stepped in front of him to prevent him from walking around the car?

At the start of the clip he was walking to the car and the cops were behind him. How the hell would they have stepped in front of him from behind him?

So you admit you did pull it out of your ass, you didn't see more clip than we did which completely doesn't support your bull shit claim

At the start of the clip he was walking to the car and the cops were behind him. How the hell would they have stepped in front of him from behind him?

That is some seriously weak shit, dude.
Three cops. No one stopped him.
They're fucked.

 

[Orangecat]

Things are changing. I understand that bothers you.

Like many others things you think you understand, you're wrong here as well, kid.
Nice try, though.

 

[kaz]

Then what did you mean by that you think blacks are scary? It seems to speak for itself. Sounds like prejudice to me

Liberals always project their own fears, ignorance, incompetence, and racism on others. The lack the cognitive ability to realize not everyone shares their flaws.

Exactly. Hutch Starskey brought up the stone cold shit that blacks are scary unprompted and irrelevant to the discussion. He was getting his fears of scary blacks out by projecting his own feelings onto others

 

[Juicey Omelette]

Jacob Blake was another absolute PoS criminal scumbag(like George Kirby) who in 2015 drunkenly assaulted and pulled a gun on a man at bar then resisted arrest when the police got ahold of him. Documents show Jacob Blake, shot by Kenosha cops in riot-unleashing incident, has record of domestic abuse

Maybe that's why the cops were a bit on edge with this rabid turd when he repeatedly failed to comply with the officers.

If a white person had a criminal past and done the same thing this idiot did, they would get shot also.

This "person" and situation is not worth rioting over...However, that won't stop Biden voters! Who as we have seen over the past months won't pass up an opportunity for a riot.

 

[kaz]

Cops for years got away with breaking the law. Turn about is fair play.

So you think just because some cops in the past did wrong things it justifies attacking other innocent cops today? You are the epitome of an idiot.

Absolutely not. That's why it's so important to weed out the cops who can't do the job without killing unarmed people.

You keep ignoring it, but it's a flash second to grab a gun and shoot a cop dead. You keep ignoring that.

Nope. Already answered you. The cops should have never let him open the door to his car. They fucked up. Now their facing attempted murder charges. Which is really, kind of unfair. Clearly their training didn't prepare them for this.

Why shouldn't they have allowed him to open his door?

Kaz is making excuses for shooting him seven times, in the back, at point blank range, in front of his children. He claims the cops thought he was reaching for a gun.

There's nothing at all wrong with him opening his door, unless he was going for a gun. If that's what the cops were worried bout, they should have never let him open the door. Kaz is just dancing. Anything to defend the home team.

When you say things like "in front of his children" you show that you're appealing to emotion, not logic.

Why did he defy cops in front of his children? What a terrible example that was

Again, why was he not allowed to get in his car and leave?

Because the police discovered that there was a warrant for his arrest...

When? How? He had no obligation to tell them anything. He had committed no crime.

Yes, he did. There was an open warrant out for his arrest which had absolutely nothing to do with this incident...

He had committed no crime in breaking up a fight. He is free to leave.

That's what the cops had to sort out. Being in the middle of a fight is clearly probable cause

Breaking up a fight is not illegal. The police are not providing any sort of alternative situation. They do when it tends to exonerate them. They don't when it doesn't.

And if the cops did something wrong, then he should follow up later. Not ignore them and put them in a life threatening situation by going into his car where they can't see what's going on

None of the cops lives were threatened.

Not yet and we know that you prefer the requirement to be the criminal draws and fires first before the police can respond

Not yet and we know that you prefer the requirement to be the criminal draws and fires first before the police can respond

Or just a simple rule of engagement that lethal force only be used as a last resort when an actual threat is present and not a perceived or imagined threat. The three officers did nothing to physically restrain or prevent what happened. The had no control of the scene. But maybe that was by design. Innocence by incompetence.

Did you see a longer clip that showed that or did you pull it out of your ass? You can't conclude that from the clip in the OP, insufficient evidence

Did you see a longer clip that showed that or did you pull it out of your ass? You can't conclude that from the clip in the OP, insufficient evidence

Which officer stepped in front of him to prevent him from walking around the car?

At the start of the clip he was walking to the car and the cops were behind him. How the hell would they have stepped in front of him from behind him?

So you admit you did pull it out of your ass, you didn't see more clip than we did which completely doesn't support your bull shit claim

At the start of the clip he was walking to the car and the cops were behind him. How the hell would they have stepped in front of him from behind him?

That is some seriously weak shit, dude.
Three cops. No one stopped him.
They're fucked.

It's "weak" that cops standing behind him when he was walking didn't step in front of him? You really are an intellectual vacuum

 

[Orangecat]

Exactly. Hutch Starskey brought up the stone cold shit that blacks are scary unprompted and irrelevant to the discussion. He was getting his fears of scary blacks out by projecting his own feelings onto others

They love creating straw men by telling you what they "know" you think. It's a debate tactic used by children.

 

[pknopp]

Exactly. Hutch Starskey brought up the stone cold shit that blacks are scary unprompted and irrelevant to the discussion. He was getting his fears of scary blacks out by projecting his own feelings onto others

They love creating straw men by telling you what they "know" you think. It's a debate tactic used by children.

Like you did with me and guns?

 

[kaz]

Exactly. Hutch Starskey brought up the stone cold shit that blacks are scary unprompted and irrelevant to the discussion. He was getting his fears of scary blacks out by projecting his own feelings onto others

They love creating straw men by telling you what they "know" you think. It's a debate tactic used by children.

Like you did with me and guns?

No, you actually advocated the cop should have sat there and couldn't do anything until after he was shot and killed. An entirely different thing

 

[iceberg]

There's simply no justification for shooting someone in the back.

Now, given the current social climate in this country, and the absolute disdain blacks have for cops, I can understand the cops being on edge. But there was no weapon. He just as easily could've been trying to get into the car to get a candy bar as a gun...

except he said he was going for a gun and had a knife in hand. you gonna risk he really just wanted a baby Ruth?

There was no gun found, so your assertion that he was going for a gun is factually incorrect, as is the statement about the knife.

Blake was unarmed.

Shooting someone in the back seven times is criminal.

And I don't even like negroes...

i didn't say there was a gun found. i said it was reported he said he was going for a gun.

Where was that reported?

See, you'll need to 'splain sometin' Lucy:

There are three cops, at least two of them with guns drawn (apparently the female officer had a taser out, but she was still armed). It would take a profound divorce from logic to believe that this guy thought he would get the better of three armed police officers once he got his imaginary firearm. I just don't buy it.

He'd have to be fuckin' Doc Holliday...

i am not about to get into a factual debate over what happened

Gee, that's just a swell idea. Instead of using facts, use your emotions and unfounded suspicions...

first of all - i am not using my emotions. but by "factual" debate i mean i am not going to throw my "facts" at you while you simply throw the other sides "facts" at me. that's as pointless as waiting for rightwinger to be objective.

and i've also learned when you find someone entrenched in their views that they got through our fucked up media and don't seem to be open to other ideas or possibilities, i simply avoid those people anymore.

from what little i do know, i can't see how 7 shots in the back was justified. no. but we don't know the entire story and we don't know the facts. so what would our "debate" cover? throwing "facts" at each other from sites we find that support our point of view.

if that reasoning escapes your logic patterns, sorry about that. but i am avoiding this discussion "in depth" because it WOULD be based on emotion NOT facts OF WHICH we don't have all of yet.

do with that what you will.

 

[JusticeHammer]

Possibly violating someone's civil rights are never irrelevant.

SCOTUS upheld Law Enforcement's right to stop and question someone some 50 years ago.

This thugs Civil Rights were not violated.

He fought with police, was tazed, and continue to ignore commands and went to his vehicle to get a weapon.

THAT is what is relevant in this case.

The police have to suspect you of a crime for you to have to comply.

Wrong.

 

[katsteve2012]

A black man quietly walking into his truck was shot by a cop. His children were watching in the truck.
Here's the video. Anyone feel free to tell me why this man got shot. This is murder.
Expect huge protests. Not just on Wisconsin. But in the nation.

He wasn't killed, but is paralyzed from the waist down according to reports.

There was certainly no justification for shooting him in the back, based on the video.

 

[katsteve2012]

Kenosha businesses damaged and vehicles burned after police officer shoots Jacob Blake in the back

Several vehicles in a car dealership were set ablaze after 2 a.m. as people moved through the city.

www.jsonline.com

"Unrest continued in Kenosha early Monday morning after police shot a man in the 2800 block of 40th Street sometime after 5:11 p.m., the encounter partially captured in a video that showed an officer firing several shots at close range into the man's back. Wisconsin officials identified the shooting victim as Jacob Blake, a Black man. He was in serious condition at Froedtert Hospital in Milwaukee as of early Monday morning, law enforcement said."



First of all, this guy is no victim, he brought all of this on himself. Witnesses claim the police were called to a domestic disturbance at which the suspect was attempting to break up a fight...I am sure there is more than what the video shows, but the video itself clearly shows the man disobeying police orders, walking to his car to get a weapon -- and the police had no choice but to shoot him....plus this guy has a criminal record.....

Now the governor is taking the side of the black thug and not the police; there are riots in the streets of Democrat run Kenosha..none of this rioting and violence will be happening in Trump's second term -- he is allowing it to happen now to teach dumb black voters a lesson, but when he is re-elected -- he will turn the streets crimson with their blood and cleanse our nation..

But wait a minute. Police had this man at gunpoint. Despite that, he ignored their direction, walked away and got into his car where he could have been going for a concealed weapon.

So what's the problem here?

That when police tell white people to stop and desist, they don't try to walk away and force police to shoot them for appearing to be reaching for a concealed gun?

So no white person has ever failed to follow police instructions?

A common sentiment in this forum is that more unarmed white people than black people are killed by police.

Is it a possibility that some of those people did not comply with police?

 

[Orangecat]

Like you did with me and guns?

Nope.
I just posted a meme. I didn't say it was you.
Nice try again, kid, but you haven't the skill to lay a glove on me.

 

[airplanemechanic]

I don't know if anyone is aware of this but breaking news about this situation is that NONE of the officers involved in this shooting were wearing body cameras.

Kenosha officials delayed police body cameras for years before Jacob Blake shooting

The public has only seen video captured by a neighbor that shows an officer shooting an unarmed Blake, 29, in the back several times.

www.usatoday.com

 

[iceberg]

Kenosha businesses damaged and vehicles burned after police officer shoots Jacob Blake in the back

Several vehicles in a car dealership were set ablaze after 2 a.m. as people moved through the city.

www.jsonline.com

"Unrest continued in Kenosha early Monday morning after police shot a man in the 2800 block of 40th Street sometime after 5:11 p.m., the encounter partially captured in a video that showed an officer firing several shots at close range into the man's back. Wisconsin officials identified the shooting victim as Jacob Blake, a Black man. He was in serious condition at Froedtert Hospital in Milwaukee as of early Monday morning, law enforcement said."



First of all, this guy is no victim, he brought all of this on himself. Witnesses claim the police were called to a domestic disturbance at which the suspect was attempting to break up a fight...I am sure there is more than what the video shows, but the video itself clearly shows the man disobeying police orders, walking to his car to get a weapon -- and the police had no choice but to shoot him....plus this guy has a criminal record.....

Now the governor is taking the side of the black thug and not the police; there are riots in the streets of Democrat run Kenosha..none of this rioting and violence will be happening in Trump's second term -- he is allowing it to happen now to teach dumb black voters a lesson, but when he is re-elected -- he will turn the streets crimson with their blood and cleanse our nation..

But wait a minute. Police had this man at gunpoint. Despite that, he ignored their direction, walked away and got into his car where he could have been going for a concealed weapon.

So what's the problem here?

That when police tell white people to stop and desist, they don't try to walk away and force police to shoot them for appearing to be reaching for a concealed gun?

So no white person has ever failed to follow police instructions?

A common sentiment in this forum is that more unarmed white people than black people are killed by police.

Is it a possibility that some of those people did not comply with police?

Think police are killers targeting black Americans? The data shows that couldn't be further from the truth.

Anti-police rhetoric is spreading across the country faster than the virus because disinformation about racist police shootings fuels its transmission.

www.lawenforcementtoday.com

It’s rare for police to kill anyone. A black man is more likely to be killed by lightning than by a police officer. In 2019, police shot and killed 1,003 people in the US, according to the Washington Post’s Fatal Force database. Of those, 250 were black and 405 white. Police shot and killed 55 unarmed suspects, including 25 whites and 14 blacks.
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now in all fairness:

U.S. Lightning Deaths in 2019: 20

www.weather.gov

only 20 people killed by lightning so their analogy isn't true.

 

[pknopp]

I don't know if anyone is aware of this but breaking news about this situation is that NONE of the officers involved in this shooting were wearing body cameras.

That needs to be automatic termination. I understand we aren't there yet but we need to get there.

 

[airplanemechanic]

The dems love to defend the rapists.

The guy was under arrest for sexual assault.

C'mon dems, keep defending him.

For anyone stupid enough to say that shooting someone in the back is cowardly, ever heard of someone turning their back to you momentarily to take cover to attack you? Of course you can shoot someone in the back. If they are a threat you shoot them anywhere you can.

 

[pknopp]

Kenosha businesses damaged and vehicles burned after police officer shoots Jacob Blake in the back

Several vehicles in a car dealership were set ablaze after 2 a.m. as people moved through the city.

www.jsonline.com

"Unrest continued in Kenosha early Monday morning after police shot a man in the 2800 block of 40th Street sometime after 5:11 p.m., the encounter partially captured in a video that showed an officer firing several shots at close range into the man's back. Wisconsin officials identified the shooting victim as Jacob Blake, a Black man. He was in serious condition at Froedtert Hospital in Milwaukee as of early Monday morning, law enforcement said."



First of all, this guy is no victim, he brought all of this on himself. Witnesses claim the police were called to a domestic disturbance at which the suspect was attempting to break up a fight...I am sure there is more than what the video shows, but the video itself clearly shows the man disobeying police orders, walking to his car to get a weapon -- and the police had no choice but to shoot him....plus this guy has a criminal record.....

Now the governor is taking the side of the black thug and not the police; there are riots in the streets of Democrat run Kenosha..none of this rioting and violence will be happening in Trump's second term -- he is allowing it to happen now to teach dumb black voters a lesson, but when he is re-elected -- he will turn the streets crimson with their blood and cleanse our nation..

But wait a minute. Police had this man at gunpoint. Despite that, he ignored their direction, walked away and got into his car where he could have been going for a concealed weapon.

So what's the problem here?

That when police tell white people to stop and desist, they don't try to walk away and force police to shoot them for appearing to be reaching for a concealed gun?

So no white person has ever failed to follow police instructions?

A common sentiment in this forum is that more unarmed white people than black people are killed by police.

Is it a possibility that some of those people did not comply with police?

Think police are killers targeting black Americans? The data shows that couldn't be further from the truth.

Anti-police rhetoric is spreading across the country faster than the virus because disinformation about racist police shootings fuels its transmission.

www.lawenforcementtoday.com

It’s rare for police to kill anyone. A black man is more likely to be killed by lightning than by a police officer. In 2019, police shot and killed 1,003 people in the US, according to the Washington Post’s Fatal Force database. Of those, 250 were black and 405 white. Police shot and killed 55 unarmed suspects, including 25 whites and 14 blacks.
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now in all fairness:

U.S. Lightning Deaths in 2019: 20

www.weather.gov

only 20 people killed by lightning so their analogy isn't true.

Which excuses nothing. Bank robbery is rare also but we still prosecute it.