Another home invasion caught on video...good thing she didn't have a gun...right?

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Yes....it is far better to trust that the guys breaking into your home and brutalizing will not go that one step further and rape or murder you...since they have already shown they don't care about the law.....so it is better to be completely defenseless and hope for the best....that you might just get lucky and not get brutally beaten, raped, stabbed and murdered.......rather than defending yourself with a gun. Right?

More Intense Surveillance Footage Of Home Invasion Except This Victim Is Missing A Firearm To Fight Back With Concealed Nation
 
Yes....it is far better to trust that the guys breaking into your home and brutalizing will not go that one step further and rape or murder you...since they have already shown they don't care about the law.....so it is better to be completely defenseless and hope for the best....that you might just get lucky and not get brutally beaten, raped, stabbed and murdered.......rather than defending yourself with a gun. Right?

More Intense Surveillance Footage Of Home Invasion Except This Victim Is Missing A Firearm To Fight Back With Concealed Nation

OVERLAND PARK, KANSAS — A woman let two men into her home along with a trusted friend, only to be betrayed by that friend and suffer a home invasion setup instead.

Pick better friends.
 
Yes....it is far better to trust that the guys breaking into your home and brutalizing will not go that one step further and rape or murder you...since they have already shown they don't care about the law.....so it is better to be completely defenseless and hope for the best....that you might just get lucky and not get brutally beaten, raped, stabbed and murdered.......rather than defending yourself with a gun. Right?

More Intense Surveillance Footage Of Home Invasion Except This Victim Is Missing A Firearm To Fight Back With Concealed Nation

OVERLAND PARK, KANSAS — A woman let two men into her home along with a trusted friend, only to be betrayed by that friend and suffer a home invasion setup instead.

Pick better friends.


Agreed....and carry a gun........
 
If she had a gun she would have provoked a shootout and ended up dead


Not likely.....since in most cases criminals run away from armed victims.......even when they begin the encounter with a surprise attack...just like the store clerk who had the gun to the back of his head, turned around and shot the criminal........

1) criminals don't want to get shot...it hurts...

2) if they are shot and injured it makes it more likely they will spend time in jail

most criminals run away as soon as the victim produces a gun....

Like the old lady who was being robbed, pulled a gun out of her purse and the robber put his hands in his pockets and walked away......
 
If she had a gun she would have provoked a shootout and ended up dead


Not likely.....since in most cases criminals run away from armed victims.......even when they begin the encounter with a surprise attack...just like the store clerk who had the gun to the back of his head, turned around and shot the criminal........

1) criminals don't want to get shot...it hurts...

2) if they are shot and injured it makes it more likely they will spend time in jail

most criminals run away as soon as the victim produces a gun....

Like the old lady who was being robbed, pulled a gun out of her purse and the robber put his hands in his pockets and walked away......

Yes likely.......Women are not trained killers

The woman would have fumbled with her gun, got off an errrant shot and the intruders would have pulled their weapons and filled her full of bullets

Another victory for second amendment rights
 
Yes....it is far better to trust that the guys breaking into your home and brutalizing will not go that one step further and rape or murder you...since they have already shown they don't care about the law.....so it is better to be completely defenseless and hope for the best....that you might just get lucky and not get brutally beaten, raped, stabbed and murdered.......rather than defending yourself with a gun. Right?

More Intense Surveillance Footage Of Home Invasion Except This Victim Is Missing A Firearm To Fight Back With Concealed Nation

OVERLAND PARK, KANSAS — A woman let two men into her home along with a trusted friend, only to be betrayed by that friend and suffer a home invasion setup instead.

Pick better friends.


Agreed....and carry a gun........

I know carry a gun is your answer to every question. Hard to say what would have happened given one person was a friend. Might just be one of the 230,000 stolen guns each year now.
 
Yes....it is far better to trust that the guys breaking into your home and brutalizing will not go that one step further and rape or murder you...since they have already shown they don't care about the law.....so it is better to be completely defenseless and hope for the best....that you might just get lucky and not get brutally beaten, raped, stabbed and murdered.......rather than defending yourself with a gun. Right?

More Intense Surveillance Footage Of Home Invasion Except This Victim Is Missing A Firearm To Fight Back With Concealed Nation

OVERLAND PARK, KANSAS — A woman let two men into her home along with a trusted friend, only to be betrayed by that friend and suffer a home invasion setup instead.

Pick better friends.


Agreed....and carry a gun........

I know carry a gun is your answer to every question. Hard to say what would have happened given one person was a friend. Might just be one of the 230,000 stolen guns each year now.
Easy solution; stealing a gun, or knowingly possessing a stolen gun, and, possession of a gun by a convicted felon should all be fast-track capital crimes.
 
Everyone doesn't want to carry a gun. It is not for everyone. If she was the type I assume she would have had one.
 
Everyone doesn't want to carry a gun. It is not for everyone. If she was the type I assume she would have had one.
That's why she was a victim. The world has lions and gazelles. The gazelle doesn't choose to be the lion's lunch. It's the purpose of the gazelle. Only among humans is there a conscious decision to be prey.
 
My solution is not always carry a gun....since not everyone wants to...but against a violent criminal attack a gun is the most effective way for an individual to survive the encounter....and it doesn't matter if they are old, injured, physically handicapped, a small female or male, outnumbered by the attackers, wether the attackers are armed or unarmed. A gun makes the individual on par with one or more armed or unarmed attackers and there is no way to get around that....

In this attack...she is lucky....that is essentially how she survived the attack...pure, dumb, luck.......is that how you want to enter an encounter with a violent criminal.....giving yourself over to their good will or just relying on pure dumb luck?
 
If she had a gun she would have provoked a shootout and ended up dead


Not likely.....since in most cases criminals run away from armed victims.......even when they begin the encounter with a surprise attack...just like the store clerk who had the gun to the back of his head, turned around and shot the criminal........

1) criminals don't want to get shot...it hurts...

2) if they are shot and injured it makes it more likely they will spend time in jail

most criminals run away as soon as the victim produces a gun....

Like the old lady who was being robbed, pulled a gun out of her purse and the robber put his hands in his pockets and walked away......

Yes likely.......Women are not trained killers

The woman would have fumbled with her gun, got off an errrant shot and the intruders would have pulled their weapons and filled her full of bullets

Another victory for second amendment rights


Since you have no clue what you are talking about you should simply remain quiet...and do some research into actual self defense shootings...what you say is not true...I post all the time with stories that show that normal, law abiding, untrained or minimally trained people fight off and survive against violent criminals. The criminals are alone or attack in groups and the victim still fights them off....often without firing a shot...often having been ambushed or surprised...

So do some actual research into self defense shootings....then you would actually have a fucking clue.....
 
My solution is not always carry a gun....since not everyone wants to...but against a violent criminal attack a gun is the most effective way for an individual to survive the encounter....and it doesn't matter if they are old, injured, physically handicapped, a small female or male, outnumbered by the attackers, wether the attackers are armed or unarmed. A gun makes the individual on par with one or more armed or unarmed attackers and there is no way to get around that....

In this attack...she is lucky....that is essentially how she survived the attack...pure, dumb, luck.......is that how you want to enter an encounter with a violent criminal.....giving yourself over to their good will or just relying on pure dumb luck?

It might have been the cameras. They had to know there was a good chance of being caught at that point. They weren't going to commit murder on camera.
 
My solution is not always carry a gun....since not everyone wants to...but against a violent criminal attack a gun is the most effective way for an individual to survive the encounter....and it doesn't matter if they are old, injured, physically handicapped, a small female or male, outnumbered by the attackers, wether the attackers are armed or unarmed. A gun makes the individual on par with one or more armed or unarmed attackers and there is no way to get around that....

In this attack...she is lucky....that is essentially how she survived the attack...pure, dumb, luck.......is that how you want to enter an encounter with a violent criminal.....giving yourself over to their good will or just relying on pure dumb luck?

It might have been the cameras. They had to know there was a good chance of being caught at that point. They weren't going to commit murder on camera.


Yeah......and you would trust these guys to know better?........good luck with that.......
 
If she had a gun she would have provoked a shootout and ended up dead


Not likely.....since in most cases criminals run away from armed victims.......even when they begin the encounter with a surprise attack...just like the store clerk who had the gun to the back of his head, turned around and shot the criminal........

1) criminals don't want to get shot...it hurts...

2) if they are shot and injured it makes it more likely they will spend time in jail

most criminals run away as soon as the victim produces a gun....

Like the old lady who was being robbed, pulled a gun out of her purse and the robber put his hands in his pockets and walked away......

Yes likely.......Women are not trained killers

The woman would have fumbled with her gun, got off an errrant shot and the intruders would have pulled their weapons and filled her full of bullets

Another victory for second amendment rights


Since you have no clue what you are talking about you should simply remain quiet...and do some research into actual self defense shootings...what you say is not true...I post all the time with stories that show that normal, law abiding, untrained or minimally trained people fight off and survive against violent criminals. The criminals are alone or attack in groups and the victim still fights them off....often without firing a shot...often having been ambushed or surprised...

So do some actual research into self defense shootings....then you would actually have a fucking clue.....

You don't however post when a defender loses which also happens. In the past I have posted a long list of defenders who were shot and injured or killed. You give only one side of what could happen. There are of course success stories also.
 
My solution is not always carry a gun....since not everyone wants to...but against a violent criminal attack a gun is the most effective way for an individual to survive the encounter....and it doesn't matter if they are old, injured, physically handicapped, a small female or male, outnumbered by the attackers, wether the attackers are armed or unarmed. A gun makes the individual on par with one or more armed or unarmed attackers and there is no way to get around that....

In this attack...she is lucky....that is essentially how she survived the attack...pure, dumb, luck.......is that how you want to enter an encounter with a violent criminal.....giving yourself over to their good will or just relying on pure dumb luck?

It might have been the cameras. They had to know there was a good chance of being caught at that point. They weren't going to commit murder on camera.


Yeah......and you would trust these guys to know better?........good luck with that.......

Good luck? That seems to be what happened, no luck necessary.
 
If she had a gun she would have provoked a shootout and ended up dead


Not likely.....since in most cases criminals run away from armed victims.......even when they begin the encounter with a surprise attack...just like the store clerk who had the gun to the back of his head, turned around and shot the criminal........

1) criminals don't want to get shot...it hurts...

2) if they are shot and injured it makes it more likely they will spend time in jail

most criminals run away as soon as the victim produces a gun....

Like the old lady who was being robbed, pulled a gun out of her purse and the robber put his hands in his pockets and walked away......

Yes likely.......Women are not trained killers

The woman would have fumbled with her gun, got off an errrant shot and the intruders would have pulled their weapons and filled her full of bullets

Another victory for second amendment rights


Since you have no clue what you are talking about you should simply remain quiet...and do some research into actual self defense shootings...what you say is not true...I post all the time with stories that show that normal, law abiding, untrained or minimally trained people fight off and survive against violent criminals. The criminals are alone or attack in groups and the victim still fights them off....often without firing a shot...often having been ambushed or surprised...

So do some actual research into self defense shootings....then you would actually have a fucking clue.....

You don't however post when a defender loses which also happens. In the past I have posted a long list of defenders who were shot and injured or killed. You give only one side of what could happen. There are of course success stories also.


I don't have to post the times when the good guy loses.....every other democrat controlled media outlet does that for me.....I am the balance.......I show the other side.....
 
If she had a gun she would have provoked a shootout and ended up dead


Not likely.....since in most cases criminals run away from armed victims.......even when they begin the encounter with a surprise attack...just like the store clerk who had the gun to the back of his head, turned around and shot the criminal........

1) criminals don't want to get shot...it hurts...

2) if they are shot and injured it makes it more likely they will spend time in jail

most criminals run away as soon as the victim produces a gun....

Like the old lady who was being robbed, pulled a gun out of her purse and the robber put his hands in his pockets and walked away......

Yes likely.......Women are not trained killers

The woman would have fumbled with her gun, got off an errrant shot and the intruders would have pulled their weapons and filled her full of bullets

Another victory for second amendment rights


Since you have no clue what you are talking about you should simply remain quiet...and do some research into actual self defense shootings...what you say is not true...I post all the time with stories that show that normal, law abiding, untrained or minimally trained people fight off and survive against violent criminals. The criminals are alone or attack in groups and the victim still fights them off....often without firing a shot...often having been ambushed or surprised...

So do some actual research into self defense shootings....then you would actually have a fucking clue.....

You don't however post when a defender loses which also happens. In the past I have posted a long list of defenders who were shot and injured or killed. You give only one side of what could happen. There are of course success stories also.


I don't have to post the times when the good guy loses.....every other democrat controlled media outlet does that for me.....I am the balance.......I show the other side.....

I don't think you do. Just saying there are two sides. I hope the good guy wins more than loses. But the chance of success depends in the person. Cameras are probably better for many.
 
My solution is not always carry a gun....since not everyone wants to...but against a violent criminal attack a gun is the most effective way for an individual to survive the encounter....and it doesn't matter if they are old, injured, physically handicapped, a small female or male, outnumbered by the attackers, wether the attackers are armed or unarmed. A gun makes the individual on par with one or more armed or unarmed attackers and there is no way to get around that....

In this attack...she is lucky....that is essentially how she survived the attack...pure, dumb, luck.......is that how you want to enter an encounter with a violent criminal.....giving yourself over to their good will or just relying on pure dumb luck?

It might have been the cameras. They had to know there was a good chance of being caught at that point. They weren't going to commit murder on camera.


Yeah......and you would trust these guys to know better?........good luck with that.......

Good luck? That seems to be what happened, no luck necessary.


It was only luck.....she could not stop them...so it was entirely up to the violent criminal how that encounter ended....and she got lucky.......lucky they had some control, and weren't completely high on drugs, or decided that they weren't afraid that the camera caught their image and decided to kill the only witness...

You have chosen "pure dumb luck" as your tool for survival.....good luck with that.....
 
My solution is not always carry a gun....since not everyone wants to...but against a violent criminal attack a gun is the most effective way for an individual to survive the encounter....and it doesn't matter if they are old, injured, physically handicapped, a small female or male, outnumbered by the attackers, wether the attackers are armed or unarmed. A gun makes the individual on par with one or more armed or unarmed attackers and there is no way to get around that....

In this attack...she is lucky....that is essentially how she survived the attack...pure, dumb, luck.......is that how you want to enter an encounter with a violent criminal.....giving yourself over to their good will or just relying on pure dumb luck?

It might have been the cameras. They had to know there was a good chance of being caught at that point. They weren't going to commit murder on camera.


Yeah......and you would trust these guys to know better?........good luck with that.......

Good luck? That seems to be what happened, no luck necessary.


It was only luck.....she could not stop them...so it was entirely up to the violent criminal how that encounter ended....and she got lucky.......lucky they had some control, and weren't completely high on drugs, or decided that they weren't afraid that the camera caught their image and decided to kill the only witness...

You have chosen "pure dumb luck" as your tool for survival.....good luck with that.....
There is not luck in deciding to have cameras.
 

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