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Kinda reminds me of George washington gathering militia to enforce the whiskey tax in PA.
I am serious. I am no fan of the incumbent.
But shouldn't the criticisms of him relate to some things which he has actually done wrong?
What exactly is "wrong" with that EO?
I am serious. I am no fan of the incumbent.
But shouldn't the criticisms of him relate to some things which he has actually done wrong?
What exactly is "wrong" with that EO?
Consider not the actual list, but how names end up on it. Due Process?
Habeas corpus is a writ that is used to bring a party who has been criminally convicted in state court into federal court. Usually, writs of habeas corpus are used to review the legality of the party’s arrest, imprisonment, or detention. The federal court’s review of a habeas corpus petition is considered to be collateral relief of a state court decision rather than direct review.
Habeas corpus originated in English common law as a means to protect individuals from illegal detention. An individual who had been held in custody could file a petition seeking a writ which would require the custodian to provide adequate legal justification for the detention. If the custodian failed to do so, the court could order the petitioner’s release.
Habeas corpus | LII / Legal Information Institute
Didn't you swear an oath to Protect and Defend the Constitution? When you gonna' start doin' that?
Iran is not covered in our constitution.
The original bill to cover these sanctions sailed through congress, yet he feels it's his "right" to do as he pleases.
Didn't you swear an oath to Protect and Defend the Constitution? When you gonna' start doin' that?
Constitution fundamentalist.
Grow up.
Impossible. He thinks (I know, I'm being generous) "Constitution fundamentalist" is an insult.Didn't you swear an oath to Protect and Defend the Constitution? When you gonna' start doin' that?
Constitution fundamentalist.
Grow up.
Impossible. He thinks (I know, I'm being generous) "Constitution fundamentalist" is an insult.Constitution fundamentalist.
Grow up.![]()
Let me guess: You think the Constitution is a "living, breathing document" subject to the liberal whims of the moment, not requiring the Amendment process for change, but just "interpretation" from the bench.Impossible. He thinks (I know, I'm being generous) "Constitution fundamentalist" is an insult.Grow up.![]()
Impossible? Perhaps. I think fundamentalism in any form is a little on the naive side.
And with that:![]()
Well, I believe businesses should not be allowed to fuck people over in their pursuit of profits
Right, that's a job you reserve for politicians
Nothing for the rest of my post?
And "conservatives" must not fundamentally understand the Constitution or how our government works.
He did not bypass Congress. EO's are not un-Constitutional. This is no conspiracy.
Just because y'all are scratching for some reason to find fault with Obama does not make your ridiculous charges true.
I'm not a conservative, I'm a libertarian. And EO's are not Unconstitutional themselves, but you can't do anything with them that is unconstitutional and there is no Constitutional authority for seizing bank accounts without due process.
Though you did answer my question in another post where I said the left would rationalize Obama shooting a group of nuns ... it was an Executive Order ...
Sorry EO's are subject to Constitutionality. And not just when your guy is behind the steering wheel. You're just engaging in partisan bickering. You're like the Republicans. When the Constitution serves you, it's a sledge hammer and when it doesn't it's toilet paper. I support it all the time, being a republic to me is far more important then getting the Federal Government to decree what I want on any transactional issue.
I do hope you realize that Congress gave the President the authority to do what he did. And, they've given similar authority to every President since Bill Clinton.
I know you're talking about "due process" in the legal sense, but Congress allocating powers to the President is "due process" in the Constitutional sense.
I have seen nothing in the laws referenced or in the Executive Order which would deny to a person, who is affected by the Executive Order, the right to seek judicial intervention
I have seen nothing in the laws referenced or in the Executive Order which would deny to a person, who is affected by the Executive Order, the right to seek judicial intervention
Due process means that you can only be deprived of life, liberty or property AFTER due process, it doesn't mean that the government can take it and THEN you get due process.
I have seen nothing in the laws referenced or in the Executive Order which would deny to a person, who is affected by the Executive Order, the right to seek judicial intervention
Due process means that you can only be deprived of life, liberty or property AFTER due process, it doesn't mean that the government can take it and THEN you get due process.
Wrong.
Due process means the process to which you are due.
If there are laws prohibiting certain financial dealings with Iran, and the government ascertains that you are engaged in such dealings anyway, they can freeze those assets. YOU can then be heard in COURT to challenge the determination and get your assets unfrozen. There is no "taking" going on. Just enforcement of a prohibition.
It's akin to a scenario where a police officer thinks you've been driving your car too fast, or doing so drunk, he doesn't go to court first to obtain authority to stop you. He stops you first and then you go to court.
Let me guess: You think the Constitution is a "living, breathing document" subject to the liberal whims of the moment, not requiring the Amendment process for change, but just "interpretation" from the bench.Impossible. He thinks (I know, I'm being generous) "Constitution fundamentalist" is an insult.![]()
Impossible? Perhaps. I think fundamentalism in any form is a little on the naive side.
And with that:![]()
Amirite?
I have seen nothing in the laws referenced or in the Executive Order which would deny to a person, who is affected by the Executive Order, the right to seek judicial intervention
Due process means that you can only be deprived of life, liberty or property AFTER due process, it doesn't mean that the government can take it and THEN you get due process.
Wrong.
Due process means the process to which you are due.
If there are laws prohibiting certain financial dealings with Iran, and the government ascertains that you are engaged in such dealings anyway, they can freeze those assets. YOU can then be heard in COURT to challenge the determination and get your assets unfrozen. There is no "taking" going on. Just enforcement of a prohibition.
It's akin to a scenario where a police officer thinks you've been driving your car too fast, or doing so drunk, he doesn't go to court first to obtain authority to stop you. He stops you first and then you go to court.
Due process means that you can only be deprived of life, liberty or property AFTER due process, it doesn't mean that the government can take it and THEN you get due process.
Impossible. He thinks (I know, I'm being generous) "Constitution fundamentalist" is an insult.Grow up.![]()
Impossible? Perhaps. I think fundamentalism in any form is a little on the naive side.
And with that:![]()
well how special, I guess you BETTER HOPE you aren't declared a "sanctioned person" by the dear leader or his Comrades in Arms administration..