August West
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Do you want to compare murder rates with any western European nation?
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Another "Responsible" Gun Owner
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2aguy
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Do you want to compare murder rates with any western European nation?
Nope........we can't catch up.....the European governments murdered 15 million innocent men, women and children in just 6 years....
Gun murder in our entire 246 year history is around 2,460,000 and our gun murder victims are majority criminals murdered by other criminals...
Their governments rounded up unarmed citizens, marched them into forests and camps and murdered them.....
But you don't want to include those murder victims in your total........cause we can't catch up....
2aguy
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An estimated 40,000 are stolen from vehicles every year. Would you support a law making it illegal to leave your gun in a vehicle overnight? Our cars don`t have 2nd amendment rights.
So?
According to that logic...........
Women are raped every single day...would you support a law that made it mandatory that they be chaperoned by a male relative whenever they go out in public and that they have to wear total body coverings to prevent getting raped?
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The only reason people leave their guns in their cars is assholes like you have made most public stores and buildings gun free zones....so the normal people can't keep their guns with them if they want to get food.....
Then, when the police catch actual criminals with illegal guns...guns they can't buy, own or carry and should spend about 10 years in jail for possessing.....you and the democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians let them go, plea bargaining away the felony gun possession charge, and letting them loose on no cash bail.
If you actually cared about criminals with guns, you would stop supporting the democrats who keep letting them go..
I support a 30 year sentence for any criminal caught with an illegal gun.............
Do you?
My full plan....notice........it targets criminals, not law abiding gun owners...so my plan actually works...
I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.
This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......
Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.
You implement this with two other things...
1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.
2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a gun in a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......
That is how you stop gun crime over night.
Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.
The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....
It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...
By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....
Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...
This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....
Mass shooters
1) end gun free zones
2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....
3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....
4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....
What does each do to stop mass shooters....
1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.
2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect
3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....
4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..
lennypartiv
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Exactly. Some of them are frigging loud.Well, leaf blowers are really annoying.
HereWeGoAgain
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Because handguns cause the most deaths by far
But they are a sacred cow
You fight the fights you can win
That is the dumbest response I've ever heard.
rightwinger
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That is the dumbest response I've ever heard.
You don’t believe handguns cause more deaths than any other weapon?
Boy, you are stupid
frigidweirdo
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Man Shoots Neighbor For Using Leaf Blower
Unfortunately, this sort of thing will keep happening in our gun-saturated country.crooksandliars.com
If ya have a gun ya might as well use it huh?
Seems to be a rash of this kinda thing
And another...
Gunman kills five, including child, at Texas home
Police in Cleveland, Texas, say the victims were killed over an argument about shooting practice.
www.bbc.com
"Police in Texas say they believe a man killed five of his neighbours after an argument about him practice-shooting with a semi-automatic weapon nearby."
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alcohol and gunpowder doesn't mix well.And another...
Gunman kills five, including child, at Texas home
Police in Cleveland, Texas, say the victims were killed over an argument about shooting practice.
"Police in Texas say they believe a man killed five of his neighbours after an argument about him practice-shooting with a semi-automatic weapon nearby."
HereWeGoAgain
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You don’t believe handguns cause more deaths than any other weapon?
Boy, you are stupid
No..whats stupid is trying to ban guns that kill far less people and letting the ghetto guns that kill far more stay out there.
Explain that ya douche bag.
HereWeGoAgain
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So you would do...nothing
Got it
So you'd ban the gun that isnt used in the vast majority of shootings?
Thats about as stupid as you can get.
Thats like going after jay walkers harder than child rapist.
rightwinger
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If Handguns could be banned, like in most of the world, tens of thousands of lives would be saved.No..whats stupid is trying to ban guns that kill far less people and letting the ghetto guns that kill far more stay out there.
Explain that ya douche bag.
Assault weapons and high capacity magazines is more achievable
2aguy
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So you would do...nothing
Got it
This is what I would do.......
I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.
This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......
Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.
You implement this with two other things...
1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.
2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a gun in a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......
That is how you stop gun crime over night.
Mass shooters are different..... with only 74 people murdered in mass public shootings in 2022 they are not the major problem in gun crime.
The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....
It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...
By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....
Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...
This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....
Mass shooters
1) end gun free zones
2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....
3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....
4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....
What does each do to stop mass shooters....
1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.
2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect
3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....
4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..
5). Harden public schools........ one entrance with buzz only access....police blue call boxes, like fire alarm pull stations, that send a call directly to the police station and all officers in the area, which will cut down response time by bypassing 911, saving minutes to save lives
6) allow schools to choose to arm and train some staff.....I like arming support staff over teachers because they have more freedom around the building and teachers main duty is to protect the children under their direct care.....and support staff could be anywhere in the building at any time, making it more difficult for mass shooters to plan because they may face armed resistance at any time......
2aguy
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If Handguns could be banned, like in most of the world, tens of thousands of lives would be saved.
Assault weapons and high capacity magazines is more achievable
No.......criminals would still get guns, and American criminals like to murder people......so of the 1.1 million defensive gun uses each year, according to the Centers for Disease Control......that stop rape, robbery, murder, beatings, stabbings and even mass public shootings......would no longer happen....and the victims would be raped, robbed, murdered, beat, and stabbed.....and mass public shootings would still happen....
2aguy
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So you would do....nothing
You could respond to my proposals........I would definitely do something......just not banning or confiscating guns......
I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.
This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......
Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.
You implement this with two other things...
1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.
2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a gun in a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......
That is how you stop gun crime over night.
Mass shooters are different..... with only 74 people murdered in mass public shootings in 2022 they are not the major problem in gun crime.
The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....
It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...
By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....
Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...
This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....
Mass shooters
1) end gun free zones
2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....
3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....
4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....
What does each do to stop mass shooters....
1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.
2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect
3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....
4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..
5). Harden public schools........ one entrance with buzz only access....police blue call boxes, like fire alarm pull stations, that send a call directly to the police station and all officers in the area, which will cut down response time by bypassing 911, saving minutes to save lives
6) allow schools to choose to arm and train some staff.....I like arming support staff over teachers because they have more freedom around the building and teachers main duty is to protect the children under their direct care.....and support staff could be anywhere in the building at any time, making it more difficult for mass shooters to plan because they may face armed resistance at any time......
Lesh
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Ex-Candidate Arrested After Pulling Gun At Republican Meeting
He seems nice. I'm sure he's a blast at parties, too.
crooksandliars.com
Because why not...
The Duke
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OP is a faggot liar.Man Shoots Neighbor For Using Leaf Blower
Unfortunately, this sort of thing will keep happening in our gun-saturated country.
If ya have a gun ya might as well use it huh?
Seems to be a rash of this kinda thing
Wild Bill Kelsoe
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I bet there's more to the Texas shooting than we know. My first question is: why didn't the victims just call the cops?And here’s another that just happened!
5 dead in Texas 'execution-style' shooting, suspect armed with AR-15 is on the loose
Five people are dead, including an 8-year-old boy, after being shot in a Texas home by a suspect armed with AR-15 style rifle, police say.abcnews.go.com
This from earlier in the month…
Police arrest man who allegedly shot 6-year-old when basketball rolled into yard
A North Carolina man allegedly shot a 6-year-old girl, her parents and an additional neighbor after a basketball rolled into his yard.
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