Another victory for our President

Only a newb like you would think that China and the US are going to do anything on climate. Jackass.

China has no choice but to do something about climate.

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If the US can get rid of Republicans, we could do something about the climate too
 
China has no choice but to do something about climate.

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If the US can get rid of Republicans, we could do something about the climate too
I presume you're one of those naive morons who thinks the Chinese government holds any value on human life.
First stop China from attacking Taiwan then we'll talk about the pollution that is a result of China making the world's products.
 
Bankrupt ourselves?

BTW, numskull, smog isn't climate. CO2 isn't a pollutant. Plants need it to live.

That is true.
Smog is local and just the way high humidity allows local pollutants to become more visible.
But at the same time, that much emissions can't be good.
It is good that we can see smog and good to do something about it.
Plants do need CO2 and CO2 is not harmful in any way except for global warming.
But it is pretty clear it is CO2 that controls the 110,000 year long ice age and warming cycles that have been going on over 12 times.
And we seem to be in the process of adding a 2nd warming period on top of what naturally was already almost the warmest of the natural cycle.
This will result in an unprecedented warming that has not been seen in over hundreds of millions of years, when the earth was all swamps and the sky perpetually cloud covered.
Do we really want to let that happen?
Using less fossil fuel and more reforestation can prevent it.
And using less fossil fuel does not really cost us anything, but saves money instead.
It also is not a bad idea to save fossil fuel for our descendants either.
 
That is true.
Smog is local and just the way high humidity allows local pollutants to become more visible.
But at the same time, that much emissions can't be good.
It is good that we can see smog and good to do something about it.
Plants do need CO2 and CO2 is not harmful in any way except for global warming.
But it is pretty clear it is CO2 that controls the 110,000 year long ice age and warming cycles that have been going on over 12 times.
And we seem to be in the process of adding a 2nd warming period on top of what naturally was already almost the warmest of the natural cycle.
This will result in an unprecedented warming that has not been seen in over hundreds of millions of years, when the earth was all swamps and the sky perpetually cloud covered.
Do we really want to let that happen?
Using less fossil fuel and more reforestation can prevent it.
And using less fossil fuel does not really cost us anything, but saves money instead.
It also is not a bad idea to save fossil fuel for our descendants either.
"Plants do need CO2"

That has to be the dumbest statement posted in this forum in the last month.
 
I presume you're one of those naive morons who thinks the Chinese government holds any value on human life.
First stop China from attacking Taiwan then we'll talk about the pollution that is a result of China making the world's products.

What would the actual natives of Taiwan want?
The corrupt leaders of the Chiang Kai-Sheik that left the mainland and took over Taiwan by force, are not native.

Read the history.
Chiang Kai-Sheik was not the good guy.
He violated an alliance and murdered tens of thousands of communist allies.
He was evil and corrupt, and was defeated by the general population not liking him.

{...
Born in Chekiang (Zhejiang) Province, Chiang was a member of the Kuomintang (KMT) and a lieutenant of Sun Yat-sen in the revolution to overthrow the Beiyang government and reunify China. With help from the Soviets and the Communist Party of China (CPC, commonly known as the Chinese Communist Party or CCP), Chiang organized the military for Sun's Canton Nationalist Government and headed the Whampoa Military Academy. Commander in chief of the National Revolutionary Army (from which he came to be known as Generalissimo), he led the Northern Expedition from 1926 to 1928, before defeating a coalition of warlords and nominally reunifying China under a new Nationalist government. Midway through the Northern Expedition, the KMT–CPC alliance broke down and Chiang massacred communists inside the party, triggering a civil war with the CPC, which he eventually lost in 1949.
...}

That would include the natives of Taiwan.
They were against him taking over.
But I do not know what the people of Taiwan want now that Chaing Kai-Sheik is long dead?
 
What would the actual natives of Taiwan want?
The corrupt leaders of the Chiang Kai-Sheik that left the mainland and took over Taiwan by force, are not native.

Read the history.
Chiang Kai-Sheik was not the good guy.
He violated an alliance and murdered tens of thousands of communist allies.
He was evil and corrupt, and was defeated by the general population not liking him.

{...
Born in Chekiang (Zhejiang) Province, Chiang was a member of the Kuomintang (KMT) and a lieutenant of Sun Yat-sen in the revolution to overthrow the Beiyang government and reunify China. With help from the Soviets and the Communist Party of China (CPC, commonly known as the Chinese Communist Party or CCP), Chiang organized the military for Sun's Canton Nationalist Government and headed the Whampoa Military Academy. Commander in chief of the National Revolutionary Army (from which he came to be known as Generalissimo), he led the Northern Expedition from 1926 to 1928, before defeating a coalition of warlords and nominally reunifying China under a new Nationalist government. Midway through the Northern Expedition, the KMT–CPC alliance broke down and Chiang massacred communists inside the party, triggering a civil war with the CPC, which he eventually lost in 1949.
...}

That would include the natives of Taiwan.
They were against him taking over.
But I do not know what the people of Taiwan want now that Chaing Kai-Sheik is long dead?
If you believe the Taiwanese want to be ruled by the CCP, you're delusional.
 
"Plants do need CO2"

That has to be the dumbest statement posted in this forum in the last month.

How so?
Since it was a concession to your point, what more do you want?
Do you want the planet back like the Mesozoic era, where the sky was always warm, cloudy and foggy?
 
Says who?

{...
In 1945, following the end of World War II, the nationalist government of the Republic of China (ROC), led by the Kuomintang (KMT), took control of Taiwan. In 1949, after losing control of mainland China in the Chinese Civil War, the ROC government under the KMT withdrew to Taiwan and Chiang Kai-shek declared martial law. The KMT ruled Taiwan (along with the Islands of Kinmen, Wuqiu and the Matsu on the opposite side of the Taiwan Strait) as a single-party state for forty years, until democratic reforms in the 1980s, which led to the first-ever direct presidential election in 1996. During the post-war period, Taiwan experienced rapid industrialization and economic growth known as the "Taiwan Miracle", and was known as one of the "Four Asian Tigers".
...}

Martial law and forcing a single party state does not sound at all good.
But by 1996, with the first presidential election in Taiwan, it sounds like they have improved?
 
{...
In 1945, following the end of World War II, the nationalist government of the Republic of China (ROC), led by the Kuomintang (KMT), took control of Taiwan. In 1949, after losing control of mainland China in the Chinese Civil War, the ROC government under the KMT withdrew to Taiwan and Chiang Kai-shek declared martial law. The KMT ruled Taiwan (along with the Islands of Kinmen, Wuqiu and the Matsu on the opposite side of the Taiwan Strait) as a single-party state for forty years, until democratic reforms in the 1980s, which led to the first-ever direct presidential election in 1996. During the post-war period, Taiwan experienced rapid industrialization and economic growth known as the "Taiwan Miracle", and was known as one of the "Four Asian Tigers".
...}

Martial law and forcing a single party state does not sound at all good.
But by 1996, with the first presidential election in Taiwan, it sounds like they have improved?
Where does it say the people of Taiwan held a referendum where the said they wanted the Communists to run the country?
 

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